County Of San Bernadino Child Support Services ripoff Deceptive supportive of criminals Derelect in their duties to and unwilling to help parent paying support Loma Linda California

My response was not a diatribe. Yes for the first 3 months I worked as a Family Support Officer. Thereafter, I was assigned as the legal secretary/paralegal for Family Support in the District Attorney's office.

It was my experience that, at least in the county I worked, the DA's office did not truly "assist" in visitation issues. The most assistance you would have received was a listing of the proper forms to complete and directions to the court clerk to file the case.

This may be different in other counties. I can only speak from my experience.

As for being called a "collector", in the matter of collecting child support from non custodial parents trying to avoid the responsibility, I will proudly claim that title.

The District Attorney does have a duty to assist just depends on what laws are broke, that would determine what portion of the district attorneys office you land up in!

First and foremost the District attorney has a duty to assist with enforcement of child visitation. It is simply called a duty to assist.

If a parent is deprived of visitation one only has to file a complaint, here is how it works when a scheduled visitation is to occur and the custodial parent has a habit of refusal call the local law I.e. county Sheriff or police depending where you live, ask for a civil standby to be on hand at the designated time. They cannot deny this.

Document everything have a copy of the current court order spelling out custody visitation with dates and times of pickup and drop-off. Have a copy for them to keep for there records, if your court order states that you need to give advance notice for visitation always communicate through the mail and send the letter certified registered receipt keep a copy of the receipt card and a copy of the letter designating your pickup and drop off times and place

Once there is a failure of the custodial parent to provide the child or children they will issue a case number always ask for a copy to be forwarded to the District attorney's office for prosecution and ask for a copy for yourself once you have several of these no shows call the district attorneys office and request they prosecute her.

The District attorneys office has a law to follow and that is called a duty to assist. Some if not all California District attorneys will choose to not prosecute just keep the paper trail going, document everything and with enough compelling evidence go to court on your own and request the judge to have the district attorney prosecute be prepared to provide all of the civil standby case numbers to overwhelm the judge one or two does not cut it you need several.

The law allows five days county time for each violation, as well could lead to a change of custody and other sanctions as a judge does have discretion.

The non custodial parent breaks the law when there is non compliance of a valid court order in place and signed by a judge the more documentation the more compelling the case.

As for what Aafes - Viernheim, Europe U.S.A stated (I worked for support enforcement services in California for many years). His occupation title as a collection agent is limited in scope of the law, narrowly educated in the collection practice of his duties.

The simple diatribe of both April and Aafes - Viernheim, Europe U.S.A is amazing to me.

You clearly stated that you had a problem and fell on hard times however both took a dim view of you for not paying child support and ridiculed you that is simply wrong why else would they be here? I would suggest they not read between the lines as much and focus on the true objective you have of visitation.

The District Attorney, Family Support Division does NOT provide services to non-custodial parents in regard to visitation. I know, I worked for support enforcement services in California for many years.

The DA is only involved as it is a legislated responsibility that the state assist custodial parents in collection of child support. It is federally mandated that states recover Aid For Dependent Children (welfare) that is paid to support the child.

The DA's are of responsibility does not include visitation rights. Under the law, visitation and child support are two wholly separate issues. While support and visitation MAY be included in a family court hearing, at which the DA may be present, the DA is not involved in the visitation issue.

If you have problems with court ordered visitation you need to hire a family law attorney and have the matter set for a hearing. The custodial parent will have to answer to the court as to why she is not allowing the visitation.

If you are really interested in visiting your child the expense of an attorney and of court hearings should be nothing in your eyes.

I am curious. If you are working 10-12 hour days, and need your sleep, so a second job is "out of the question" when do you think you are going to see your child?

Maybe I should have been more clear about the situation, then April and Aafes wouldn't be making me out to be the bad guy.

1. Because my ex-wife was on welfare at one point in time, child support stepped in and picked up my case. In San Bernadino County, child support is part of the District Attorney's office. So, yes they could help enforce my rights.

2. I have been paying over $800.00/mo. for 6yrs.

3. I have talked to many lawyers, both here in Ohio and in Ca. Ohio lawyers don't want to fight with Ca. and Ca. lawyers want me there to fight.

4. I am a truck driver. I work 10-14 hours a day already. A second job is out of the question. I do need sleep.

I never said that child support was helping my ex-wife keep my kids from me. I said they were not doing anything to help me see them.

No, I will never say if "I can't see my kids, I'm not going to pay.". I don't think of my kids as rented commodities.

Maybe people should make sure they know all the facts before they start bad mouthing they don't even know!!!

Are you saying you haven't paid since 1995?? I would hope that is not the case.

Child support and visitation are two wholly separate issues. Child support enforcement is not responsible and it is not in their job description to ensure that your wife complies with a visitation order from the court.

If your divorce decree states so, you are allowed visitation whether or not your child support is current. If you want your visitation rights, you need to file a case with the court and let her go in and explain to the judge why she is denying you those rights. Yes, she will try to bring up the issues of support, it is highly likely the judge will explain to her they are separate issues.

If your license has been suspended, your tax refunds intercepted and you were threatened with jail time your support is or has been in arrearages by a signifigant amount.

Is it really impossible for you to take a second, part time job and use all the money to pay your arrearages???

I expect you will respond with the typical excuse "If I can't see my child, I won't pay". Hopefully that is not your thought process. You don't pay child support in order to rent your children's time like a DVD from a rental company.

Hello
Child Support services ran by a county is not responsible for your visitation rights being obeyed.All they do is enforce child support.If you want your rights for visitation looked into, you should know by now that you must go0 to family court with an attorney.Child support court and family are 2 different entities.

Also, in reference to your child support. 2 wrongs do not make a right.Denying your children their support,arrears or current,is denying your children.They are being denied the money you owe them. You owe the money to your kids, not you ex wife.I know you may be angry over visitation, but you are denying money to the very children you want to see.

Also, why are you complaining about visitation after not seeing them for 11 years? Why does it take you getting in trouble for support for you to complain now? Why havent you gotten a lawyer to see your kids in these 11 years?

If you had an attorney you would have known that CSE doesnt do anything about visitation,its not their job.They are paid by the state to collect support,thats it.Thaey are not assisting your ex to deny visitation.They are not a family court judge.Only a judge can enforce visitation rights.You should know that if you had put in the least effort to see your children in the past decade.
HTH
April