Courageous Caucasians Jackie Renner AKA Jaqueline Swanner-Renner Mass production of sickly and dangerous-tempered dogs Circle Montana

 I don't know how to start my response to you other than, Wow, Very, Strange. You clearly have me mistaken for yet another unhappy buyer. 1) I have never been married let alone divorced 2) I bought the dog with MY hard earned money therefor, the contract was between myself and Jackie Renner. No other parties were involved even when my attorney got involved, which can be proven. No he said she said propaganda you tried to use as saying this report is false. I wish Jackie Renner took quality as seriously for her breeding dogs as I took in giving her my serious hard earned money to just be wasted on a dog that should have never been bred.

It took double of my hard earned money to be responsible for an irresponsible breeder. I neutered him (which was over $1,000 because Jackie Renner sent me a dog with one t******e, knowing I wanted a show prospect!), kept him on pain medication and the special diet he had to be on was not cheap! Let alone the other large amounts of money that HAD to be spent on the dog to be an ethical and humane animal owner for a handicapped dog. It would be different if these problems were told to a person before given the dog. I was not made aware of any of the dogs problems and I paid a large amount of money to inherit them. Fact, Jackie Renner never responded for court! Have you asked if her house, vehicles etc are in other people's name and why she has a P O box?

Possibly that is a red flag in itself. Can't put judgements on possessions that aren't in ones name. 3) Jackie renner's dogs are not all to standard. By your statement of saying such a thing, truly shows your lacking in understanding of dog breeding. No breeder in the world can produce 100% of their dogs they breed, be to standard 100%, why do you think some are sold as pet quality? Just a thought to hopefully inspire you to research a little more before commenting such unknowledgable responses that make you sound foolish. The problem is, the dog I bought was a genetic train wreck that Jackie Renner did not stand behind to replace. If she would had, my report would not be here.

From all the problems he had, it is highly unlikely that he was just a fluke of genetics, it is more reasonable to think it is a result of lacking of genetic testing and much inbreeding. 4) Your statements used were clearly not me but I have saved your comments to share as I think I know of the woman you are speaking of and also, a lie that you are speading about her and it is very evil to speak about someone that you don't know but merely "heard the story about". It's like He said She said in court, like you were telling me in your last statement, only difference is, I have attorney and veterinary paperwork to prove my statements, how about you? Your statements on that poor woman are teetering on the line of slander, so I kept your statements incase she wanted to use them. If there is anything else I can clear the air up for you over, I'm here! Have a blessed new year

HELLO :

             To clear the air about Jackie Renner and her wonderful and expert work she and others contribute to this rare breed of dogs (caucasian shepherd) s. . She has and will continue to have 100% breed standards when it comes to papers last I checked those are a lot higher prices as with all breeders. Unless you were involved in the origional purchase that it becomes a moot point until this is resolved .

AS my understanding your EX-husband purchased the animal and he left and you are  spilling out anger and hate and your using the dog to try and get back a agreement  they had. and that you knew or continue to know nothing about the breed nor do your alleged attorney and vet do as well. Anger management classes are in your divorce in troy Ohio Not in Montana.

$2,000.00 is not for a show dog. and he said she said doesn,t pass the means test in any court .

Sounds like you want everything in the world to go your way . why didnt you drive there to see the dog gee because your not the owner

Owing one of these dogs just to say you have one and trying to make it into something you cant is a form of retailation and un ethical alleged owner problems and is not right when you say False and Misleading statements about others

until you realize that with your limited financial resources nothing will ever come of your statements made

A apology would be in order. and if your unable to care for animal return it these breeds are not poodles

Have a blessed day, charles 12-29-2016

My experience from Courageous Caucasians was great.  Every thing went smoothly and my dog, now 9 years old is the most wonderful animal I have ever known. He is healthy and never had one problem in his life. I was always able to get a hold of Jackie if I had a question and she called periodically to check on how he was doing. As far as I know the Caucasian is not recognized by the AKC and an obedience show dog?  That is not what they are or what they were bred for. If I wanted an "obedient" dog I would have bought a Golden Retriever. I wanted a guard and I got the most loyal guard ever.

 I am a real victim of this breeders kennel. I can supply all attorney, veterinary records from three separate clinics and witnesses. This breeder does NOT stand behind her dogs when there is a problem! Fact! I am glad that you had wonderful luck with your dog from this kennel however, I and many others did not have such luck. This breeder is a scam. I understand breeding and not all puppies will be without health and or temperament problems. I gave the breeder many chances to make this right with me and I am a very understanding person! I say STAY away from this breeder!!! While I am at it I made an error in typing and want to clarify. I hold the first AKC obedience titles in this country for this breed.

I would like to comment on my experience with Courageous Caucasians which was absolutely none of the comments in the Ripoff Report filed against Courageous Caucasians and Jackie Renner in Montana.

I have direct experience with three dogs bred by Jackie aka Courageous Caucasians.  These dogs exhibited great breeding, quality in their conformation and personalities.  One of our Caucasians from Courageous Caucasians is beyond belief as a great Guardian Dog.  He is probably the best and most noble dog I have ever experienced in a Guardian.  He is not only beautiful but he is protective yet very personable with people.

I am commenting because I am highly suspicious of the comment coming from Ohio where I purchased Caucasians that I could completely and positively describe the comments made against Jackie Renner as applying to that breeder from Ohio.

I found the Caucasians from Ohio to be lacking in quality and breeding plus I paid much more for each of them than what Courageous Caucasians priced the Guardian Dogs for.  Even worse then this, the so-called breeder never provided paperwork for the puppies even though they were supposed to have papers.  I found out through a lot of research that people I talked to which were quite a few, they never received any paperwork either.  In my opinion, the breeder in Ohio is fraudulent and unscrupulous in her dealings with customers. 

In my research, I have discoverd that others have experienced harassment from the breeder in Ohio.  At the time of my research, the Ohio breeder and her husband, both attorneys, were not even in good standing with the State of Ohio.  Maybe this accounts for the Ripoff Report in which she cannot spell and appears to be illiterate when it comes to putting sentences together.

I am filing this rebuttal because I certainly don't want people to have the impression that Courageous Caucasians are anything like what is described in the Ripoff Report against Jackie Renner.  She stood firmly behind her dogs, didn't charge an exhorbitant fee like the so-called puppy buyer in Ohio claimed, but instead, she did extra nice things along with all of their paperwork for e.g. calendars, and small gifts of information on each puppy.  Everything that was said by the person in Ohio, who is supposed to be a buyer of a Courageous Caucasian, is exactly what I experienced from a breeder in Ohio.

So the short of it is, if you buy a Caucasian, buy from Courageous Caucasians in Montana where you will receive exactly what you are promised or the breeder will make it right.  I have had three dealings with her so I know for a fact this is true.

If a breeder is in Ohio, where the negative comments originated against Courageous Caucasians, I recommend you stay clear as that is what I experienced with the puppies that came from the Ohio breeder years ago.  You will read on other Ripoff Reports that many others experienced the same kind of situation as I did.

If I purchase another Caucasian, it will definitely be from Montana's Courageous Caucasians so I hope people will give Jackie Renner a try and not buy into this unlikely dishonest hype and false scenario described in the Ripoff Report.