Complaint Review: CSM, Citizen Service Management - Tortola British Columbia
- CSM, Citizen Service Management P.O. BOX 215 Tortola, British Columbia Canada
- Phone: 866-939-9542
- Web:
- Category: Corrupt Companies
Citizen Service Management, CSM Citizen Service Management ripoff for 349.00 bucks Tortola British Columbia *EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back into your bank account!
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: FINALLY I GOT MY MONEY BACK....
*Author of original report: CSM told me to stop calling them about my refund.
*Consumer Suggestion: Vancouver, not Tortola
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I got a phone call on my company cell phone saying that I was guranted a government grant of 5,500. I had to pay a fee of $349.00 to start my papper work. I gave my bank information and they took the money out 1 week early then they were surposed to. She gave my a grant ID number and a customer service number. After a couple of weeks I called customer service ask were my packet was and they told me it takes 21 to 28 working days. March 31 was my 28th day. I've been calling them everyday and they tell me that they re-ship out a new packet twice. I'm still waiting. Since then I was able to talk to a supervisor (Chris Kenndy)He told that they did re-ship out my packet and if I hadn't seen it in two weeks to give him a call back. Well I called him telling him I hadn't seen it and that I wanted a refund told me that refunds are done after I recive my packet. I told him how can I start a refund if I never get my packet. It's been 3weeks after he told me that he will refund my account and now he saying that the company (Global Processing)is the one that took my money out of my account and they are the one's that have to put it back in. Well Global told me that they don't handle CSM accounts anymore. So I called Chris Kennedy back telling him about what Global had said and he said that he will pass my information to his Legal and refund department. I call them every day trying to bug them about getting my money back. I wish there was more I could do. There customer service people don't help either. I have contacted my Attonery General and other agencies about this company and they can't really help me.
Daryle
Kent, Washington
U.S.A.
EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
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And good luck Let us know how you do!
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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds
FINALLY I GOT MY MONEY BACK....
AUTHOR: Daryle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 19, 2006
Well it only took 5 months to get my money back but I finally got a money order for the full amount of what I paid no thanks to CSM. I had to call Global Proccessing and talk to them about getting my money back. They were pretty helpfull. To those who are in the same situration as I was my advice to you is keep calling CSM and talk to CHRIS KENNEDY (supervisor)he dosent have much customer service skills but I think that I just kept buging him about my refund he told me to stop calling him about it. Good luck to those out there trying to get there money back.

#2 Author of original report
CSM told me to stop calling them about my refund.
AUTHOR: Daryle - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 06, 2006
Well it's been almost a month and Chris Kennedy (supervisor) from CSM guranted me that I am getting a certified money order from the processing company (global processing)they are the one that took my money out of my checking account. He told me back in May that it's out of his hands now because I was getting a refund.
Well when I called Global Processing I first talk to Adam (another supervisor) and he told me that I was getting a refund and they are going to mail me certified money order well after two weeks of calling him everday he told me to talk to Paul. Well Paul told me that they mail out money orders on Friday and told me to call back in two days. So I called Friday and talk to Paul and he told me that the lady (LINDA) that mails them out has gone for the day and to call back Monday and ask for Linda and if she does not have my tracking number for my certified money order that I need to talk to Jeff.
Well to my surprise there was no tracking number and Jeff had to clue what was going on. So after I told him the hole story about what had happen to me he said to call back tomarrow and he will have some information for me. So again I called back and Jeff said that there is no way that they are going to send me a money order.
When I told him that his employees (Adam, Paul)gurantee me a money order he said that Paul last day was Friday and Adam has no aurthority to say that I'm guranted a money order. Jeff said the reasson is that they no longer process CSM accounts and they don't have any money of CSM to give back to me. Which makes since to me but I wish Adam and Paul didn't lie to me it would have save time.
So I called Chris Kennedy (Supervisor) from CSM and told him what had happen from Global Processing and he said to call him tomarrow so he can figure something out. When I called him the next day his customer service people try to tell me that his not in the office and call later when I informed them that Chris Kennedy is expecting my call they then told me that he will call me back.
Well I called him back just before they closed and they then told me that he had left for the day and wont be back to work untill Monday (he had a family emergency) they told me. Well I've been liad to promise to and now customer services people are treating me like I did something wrong every time I call to try to talk to Chris Kennedy (supervisor) Well just got off the phone with Chris Kennedy and he said to stop calling him asking for my money back and told there is nothing he is going to do for anymore and said he donsn't care what I do to try to get my money back he said that any customer who gives money to a company and dosn't look into first realley dosn't need the money back. And it's not his problem anymore.
I told him that I was going to take his company to small claims court and he laugh and said go luck we been threaten about that befroe and no one knows how to take us to court. I am not giving up they took my money and wont give it back and he knows he wrong. Can anyone help me try to get my money back.....

#1 Consumer Suggestion
Vancouver, not Tortola
AUTHOR: Dave - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 15, 2006
Tortola is in the British Virgin Islands.
Another ripoffreport about CSM
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff185562.htm gives a 778 phone number.
778 is a Vancouver BC prefix.
Hope someone finds these guys and puts them away.
Of course, if they ARE in Canada, getting "put away" means house arrest.


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