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Complaint Review: Discount Blind & Shade Factory - Ken Montoya & Wes McLaughlin - Chandler Arizona

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  • Discount Blind & Shade Factory - Ken Montoya & Wes McLaughlin 3400 N Arizona Ave Chandler, Arizona U.S.A.

Discount Blind & Shade Factory - Ken Montoya & Wes McLaughlin - Kristen Wolf ripoff evil dishonest people Chandler Arizona

*Consumer Suggestion: Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

*Consumer Suggestion: Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

*Consumer Suggestion: Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

*Consumer Suggestion: Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

*UPDATE Employee: Terrie, Terry, whoever you are...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Stephanie & Chad

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: You're their lawyer...

*Consumer Comment: Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

*Consumer Comment: Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

*Consumer Comment: Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

*Consumer Comment: Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

*Consumer Suggestion: LOL!

*UPDATE Employee: Terrie?

*UPDATE Employee: Terrie?

*UPDATE Employee: Terrie?

*UPDATE Employee: Terrie?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: GROW UP PEOPLE!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: How dare you...

*Consumer Suggestion: Thanxs!

*Consumer Comment: Public Record

*Consumer Suggestion: Thank You "Terrie" for your....OPINION!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Shutters USA, Santa Fe Out West, Discount Blind and Shade Factory, American Shutter Company, the list is endless, have been ripping people off for years ...You're a joke.. IN MY OPINION

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Blinds Direct is NOT owned by Wolf/Montoya

*Consumer Suggestion: Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

*Consumer Suggestion: Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

*Consumer Suggestion: Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

*Consumer Suggestion: Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

*Consumer Comment: Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

*Consumer Comment: Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

*Consumer Comment: Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

*Consumer Comment: Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

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I worked for Ken, Kristen & Wes approximately one year ago for a brief time at Discount Blind & Shade Factory in Chandler. Their entire focus was to make as much money as possible, as fast as possible - then cut their losses and run. Quality, good faith, or fulfilling their commitments was never a priority. They ripped off their customers, their employees and their vendors/suppliers, then file bankrupcy. Yet, Ken & Kristen still built a $500,000+ new home and Wes starts up a new window treatment company.

I believe these con artists are personnally liable for for the contracts they did not honor or fulfill. We can all go after them both criminally, as well as in civil court to recoup our loses. Why should Kristen be driving a brand new Mercedes when our windows are bare?

Mike
chandler, Arizona
U.S.A.

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#31 Consumer Suggestion

Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 09, 2006

Whether you are a man or a woman makes no difference to me. Call yourself Terry, d**k or Harry!

Consistent with everything else you have said, you're wrong. I am not an attorney! I would like to point out The Terry's ?opinion's? in addressing me or anyone else reflects a lack of anger management and control. (Who say's "Ta Ta" anyway. Much-less a "grown" man?)

When preparing my post, I had no chip on my shoulder and did not go on the attack in my presentation! It's apparent to me now, by the response from The Terry's, some of the people contributing to the opinions are interested in creating unfounded drama and instigating lynch mobs rather than consider an alternate point of view or finding of fact.

Allow me to again reiterate Terry's, I was one questioning the ?Crooks?. Admittedly, I was angered and felt a sense of betrayal when it was discovered the primary accuser, who claimed to have been a distributor Wolf/Montoya purchased and ultimately ?stole? from was in fact on the board of directors of the Wolf/Montoya company affective early 2005. Same is true of the accusers wife! Making them decision makers in the Wolf/Montoya business he attacks and claims stole from him! Would his intimate relationship with the Wolf/Montoya company not make the accuser equally responsible to the consumers who claimed they suffered a monetary loss? Instead, he offered to help people who ?Wolf/Montoya took advantage of? and sell product to them at his cost? He blatantly misled consumers with the omission of his relationship, history and title of Chairman of the Board in the Wolf/Montoya company. He then attempted to profit from the devastation he appears to be equally involved in! That in itself is an OUTRAGE! Couple that with the Breach of Contract lawsuit instigated by Wolf/Montoya and what?s being posted as factual events or ?reasons to believe? make no sense! I protect no one! I'm asking questions. I'm looking for answers that actually fit! Other's should be doing the same.

In the case of the business owners Chad and Stephanie, now unwittingly lumped in the Wolf/Montoya drama; the nauseating hypocrisy of anyone justifying their ?opinion's? without solid evidence to support it, then condemning these people because they came out swinging is nothing short of ludicrous.

Directing back to Wolf/Montoya, is it not a double standard one can label an individual a ?Crook? in the title of their threads, then proceeds to scold me for what The Terry's perceive to be a biased account? These absurd remarks only affirms the ignorance and hidden agenda of The Terry?s and the other?s like them clearly have. The ignorance and lack of class continues in childish commentary such as ?these people crawl out from the wood work?. Terry's, you should know. You crawled out and slung the verbal mud first didn't you? Your denunciation of me when my actions mirror your own more than provides us all insight into your true character and integrity.

Terry's, let me ask! Did you receive permission from the people living at the address you provided in your thread, to post, on this or any other website, their personal information? This is a serious matter of invasion of privacy and ?in my opinion? inexcusable. Case-in-point why I protect my identity. Terry's, you should be compelled to share with the worldwide web your personal living address. First and last name. The individual's in your family. That would take true integrity! Any moron can get a job! So let me be the first to congratulate you, MORON! Now why don't you post all your personal statistics aside the one's belonging to those you chastise and perhaps you?ll regain a smidgen of respect and credibility!

Information was made available to contemplate. Nothing more, nothing less. My investigative findings seem to put a few on the attack! Their reaction and basic psychology tells me 1 of 2 things; either their ?opinions? are baseless or the facts submitted for pondering create fear in the truly guilty. I have reason to believe it to be the latter.

Terry's, as far as supporting resources, the same question was asked of you. To provide evidence of your ?opinion's? relating to yet another couple and their business. A request you seem to have conveniently ignored. I imagine the reason you ignored the request was because, like most everything else you've said, there is no truth to it. Unlike you, I provided the supporting resources in which I obtained and viewed the documents cited. Directing you back to your posting of an individuals personal address; I'm confident you can navigate your way around the internet without the need for me to hold your hand. It appears to me, this was nothing more than your sorry, unsuccessful attempt to discredit my testimony.

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#30 Consumer Suggestion

Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 09, 2006

Whether you are a man or a woman makes no difference to me. Call yourself Terry, d**k or Harry!

Consistent with everything else you have said, you're wrong. I am not an attorney! I would like to point out The Terry's ?opinion's? in addressing me or anyone else reflects a lack of anger management and control. (Who say's "Ta Ta" anyway. Much-less a "grown" man?)

When preparing my post, I had no chip on my shoulder and did not go on the attack in my presentation! It's apparent to me now, by the response from The Terry's, some of the people contributing to the opinions are interested in creating unfounded drama and instigating lynch mobs rather than consider an alternate point of view or finding of fact.

Allow me to again reiterate Terry's, I was one questioning the ?Crooks?. Admittedly, I was angered and felt a sense of betrayal when it was discovered the primary accuser, who claimed to have been a distributor Wolf/Montoya purchased and ultimately ?stole? from was in fact on the board of directors of the Wolf/Montoya company affective early 2005. Same is true of the accusers wife! Making them decision makers in the Wolf/Montoya business he attacks and claims stole from him! Would his intimate relationship with the Wolf/Montoya company not make the accuser equally responsible to the consumers who claimed they suffered a monetary loss? Instead, he offered to help people who ?Wolf/Montoya took advantage of? and sell product to them at his cost? He blatantly misled consumers with the omission of his relationship, history and title of Chairman of the Board in the Wolf/Montoya company. He then attempted to profit from the devastation he appears to be equally involved in! That in itself is an OUTRAGE! Couple that with the Breach of Contract lawsuit instigated by Wolf/Montoya and what?s being posted as factual events or ?reasons to believe? make no sense! I protect no one! I'm asking questions. I'm looking for answers that actually fit! Other's should be doing the same.

In the case of the business owners Chad and Stephanie, now unwittingly lumped in the Wolf/Montoya drama; the nauseating hypocrisy of anyone justifying their ?opinion's? without solid evidence to support it, then condemning these people because they came out swinging is nothing short of ludicrous.

Directing back to Wolf/Montoya, is it not a double standard one can label an individual a ?Crook? in the title of their threads, then proceeds to scold me for what The Terry's perceive to be a biased account? These absurd remarks only affirms the ignorance and hidden agenda of The Terry?s and the other?s like them clearly have. The ignorance and lack of class continues in childish commentary such as ?these people crawl out from the wood work?. Terry's, you should know. You crawled out and slung the verbal mud first didn't you? Your denunciation of me when my actions mirror your own more than provides us all insight into your true character and integrity.

Terry's, let me ask! Did you receive permission from the people living at the address you provided in your thread, to post, on this or any other website, their personal information? This is a serious matter of invasion of privacy and ?in my opinion? inexcusable. Case-in-point why I protect my identity. Terry's, you should be compelled to share with the worldwide web your personal living address. First and last name. The individual's in your family. That would take true integrity! Any moron can get a job! So let me be the first to congratulate you, MORON! Now why don't you post all your personal statistics aside the one's belonging to those you chastise and perhaps you?ll regain a smidgen of respect and credibility!

Information was made available to contemplate. Nothing more, nothing less. My investigative findings seem to put a few on the attack! Their reaction and basic psychology tells me 1 of 2 things; either their ?opinions? are baseless or the facts submitted for pondering create fear in the truly guilty. I have reason to believe it to be the latter.

Terry's, as far as supporting resources, the same question was asked of you. To provide evidence of your ?opinion's? relating to yet another couple and their business. A request you seem to have conveniently ignored. I imagine the reason you ignored the request was because, like most everything else you've said, there is no truth to it. Unlike you, I provided the supporting resources in which I obtained and viewed the documents cited. Directing you back to your posting of an individuals personal address; I'm confident you can navigate your way around the internet without the need for me to hold your hand. It appears to me, this was nothing more than your sorry, unsuccessful attempt to discredit my testimony.

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#29 Consumer Suggestion

Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 09, 2006

Whether you are a man or a woman makes no difference to me. Call yourself Terry, d**k or Harry!

Consistent with everything else you have said, you're wrong. I am not an attorney! I would like to point out The Terry's ?opinion's? in addressing me or anyone else reflects a lack of anger management and control. (Who say's "Ta Ta" anyway. Much-less a "grown" man?)

When preparing my post, I had no chip on my shoulder and did not go on the attack in my presentation! It's apparent to me now, by the response from The Terry's, some of the people contributing to the opinions are interested in creating unfounded drama and instigating lynch mobs rather than consider an alternate point of view or finding of fact.

Allow me to again reiterate Terry's, I was one questioning the ?Crooks?. Admittedly, I was angered and felt a sense of betrayal when it was discovered the primary accuser, who claimed to have been a distributor Wolf/Montoya purchased and ultimately ?stole? from was in fact on the board of directors of the Wolf/Montoya company affective early 2005. Same is true of the accusers wife! Making them decision makers in the Wolf/Montoya business he attacks and claims stole from him! Would his intimate relationship with the Wolf/Montoya company not make the accuser equally responsible to the consumers who claimed they suffered a monetary loss? Instead, he offered to help people who ?Wolf/Montoya took advantage of? and sell product to them at his cost? He blatantly misled consumers with the omission of his relationship, history and title of Chairman of the Board in the Wolf/Montoya company. He then attempted to profit from the devastation he appears to be equally involved in! That in itself is an OUTRAGE! Couple that with the Breach of Contract lawsuit instigated by Wolf/Montoya and what?s being posted as factual events or ?reasons to believe? make no sense! I protect no one! I'm asking questions. I'm looking for answers that actually fit! Other's should be doing the same.

In the case of the business owners Chad and Stephanie, now unwittingly lumped in the Wolf/Montoya drama; the nauseating hypocrisy of anyone justifying their ?opinion's? without solid evidence to support it, then condemning these people because they came out swinging is nothing short of ludicrous.

Directing back to Wolf/Montoya, is it not a double standard one can label an individual a ?Crook? in the title of their threads, then proceeds to scold me for what The Terry's perceive to be a biased account? These absurd remarks only affirms the ignorance and hidden agenda of The Terry?s and the other?s like them clearly have. The ignorance and lack of class continues in childish commentary such as ?these people crawl out from the wood work?. Terry's, you should know. You crawled out and slung the verbal mud first didn't you? Your denunciation of me when my actions mirror your own more than provides us all insight into your true character and integrity.

Terry's, let me ask! Did you receive permission from the people living at the address you provided in your thread, to post, on this or any other website, their personal information? This is a serious matter of invasion of privacy and ?in my opinion? inexcusable. Case-in-point why I protect my identity. Terry's, you should be compelled to share with the worldwide web your personal living address. First and last name. The individual's in your family. That would take true integrity! Any moron can get a job! So let me be the first to congratulate you, MORON! Now why don't you post all your personal statistics aside the one's belonging to those you chastise and perhaps you?ll regain a smidgen of respect and credibility!

Information was made available to contemplate. Nothing more, nothing less. My investigative findings seem to put a few on the attack! Their reaction and basic psychology tells me 1 of 2 things; either their ?opinions? are baseless or the facts submitted for pondering create fear in the truly guilty. I have reason to believe it to be the latter.

Terry's, as far as supporting resources, the same question was asked of you. To provide evidence of your ?opinion's? relating to yet another couple and their business. A request you seem to have conveniently ignored. I imagine the reason you ignored the request was because, like most everything else you've said, there is no truth to it. Unlike you, I provided the supporting resources in which I obtained and viewed the documents cited. Directing you back to your posting of an individuals personal address; I'm confident you can navigate your way around the internet without the need for me to hold your hand. It appears to me, this was nothing more than your sorry, unsuccessful attempt to discredit my testimony.

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#28 Consumer Suggestion

Terry(s) - You Don't Know The Meaning Of The Words "Ethical" Or "Credible" Much-less Practice The Behaviors! Your Not Fooling Anyone!

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 09, 2006

Whether you are a man or a woman makes no difference to me. Call yourself Terry, d**k or Harry!

Consistent with everything else you have said, you're wrong. I am not an attorney! I would like to point out The Terry's ?opinion's? in addressing me or anyone else reflects a lack of anger management and control. (Who say's "Ta Ta" anyway. Much-less a "grown" man?)

When preparing my post, I had no chip on my shoulder and did not go on the attack in my presentation! It's apparent to me now, by the response from The Terry's, some of the people contributing to the opinions are interested in creating unfounded drama and instigating lynch mobs rather than consider an alternate point of view or finding of fact.

Allow me to again reiterate Terry's, I was one questioning the ?Crooks?. Admittedly, I was angered and felt a sense of betrayal when it was discovered the primary accuser, who claimed to have been a distributor Wolf/Montoya purchased and ultimately ?stole? from was in fact on the board of directors of the Wolf/Montoya company affective early 2005. Same is true of the accusers wife! Making them decision makers in the Wolf/Montoya business he attacks and claims stole from him! Would his intimate relationship with the Wolf/Montoya company not make the accuser equally responsible to the consumers who claimed they suffered a monetary loss? Instead, he offered to help people who ?Wolf/Montoya took advantage of? and sell product to them at his cost? He blatantly misled consumers with the omission of his relationship, history and title of Chairman of the Board in the Wolf/Montoya company. He then attempted to profit from the devastation he appears to be equally involved in! That in itself is an OUTRAGE! Couple that with the Breach of Contract lawsuit instigated by Wolf/Montoya and what?s being posted as factual events or ?reasons to believe? make no sense! I protect no one! I'm asking questions. I'm looking for answers that actually fit! Other's should be doing the same.

In the case of the business owners Chad and Stephanie, now unwittingly lumped in the Wolf/Montoya drama; the nauseating hypocrisy of anyone justifying their ?opinion's? without solid evidence to support it, then condemning these people because they came out swinging is nothing short of ludicrous.

Directing back to Wolf/Montoya, is it not a double standard one can label an individual a ?Crook? in the title of their threads, then proceeds to scold me for what The Terry's perceive to be a biased account? These absurd remarks only affirms the ignorance and hidden agenda of The Terry?s and the other?s like them clearly have. The ignorance and lack of class continues in childish commentary such as ?these people crawl out from the wood work?. Terry's, you should know. You crawled out and slung the verbal mud first didn't you? Your denunciation of me when my actions mirror your own more than provides us all insight into your true character and integrity.

Terry's, let me ask! Did you receive permission from the people living at the address you provided in your thread, to post, on this or any other website, their personal information? This is a serious matter of invasion of privacy and ?in my opinion? inexcusable. Case-in-point why I protect my identity. Terry's, you should be compelled to share with the worldwide web your personal living address. First and last name. The individual's in your family. That would take true integrity! Any moron can get a job! So let me be the first to congratulate you, MORON! Now why don't you post all your personal statistics aside the one's belonging to those you chastise and perhaps you?ll regain a smidgen of respect and credibility!

Information was made available to contemplate. Nothing more, nothing less. My investigative findings seem to put a few on the attack! Their reaction and basic psychology tells me 1 of 2 things; either their ?opinions? are baseless or the facts submitted for pondering create fear in the truly guilty. I have reason to believe it to be the latter.

Terry's, as far as supporting resources, the same question was asked of you. To provide evidence of your ?opinion's? relating to yet another couple and their business. A request you seem to have conveniently ignored. I imagine the reason you ignored the request was because, like most everything else you've said, there is no truth to it. Unlike you, I provided the supporting resources in which I obtained and viewed the documents cited. Directing you back to your posting of an individuals personal address; I'm confident you can navigate your way around the internet without the need for me to hold your hand. It appears to me, this was nothing more than your sorry, unsuccessful attempt to discredit my testimony.

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#27 UPDATE Employee

Terrie, Terry, whoever you are...

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 08, 2006

It's funny how Terry, a person who has never posted on the thread before, responds immediately after I called him out on pretending to be a woman.

Not for one second do I believe that you are NOT Terry Cxxx. I do not even know you.

I was responding to childish accusations and public slander of ME and my FAMILY. I could only allow it to go so far before responding.

Terry, you do not know me, so DON'T pretend like you do. Yeah, pretending. That's what you're good at. If you are not Terrie from Chandler, then how did you even KNOW about this thread? And how did your "first" reply come just a short 3 hours from your faking as "Terrie"?

The bottom line is this. These FALSE and misinformed attacks on me and mine WILL stop.

I have 3 jobs. I own a company with my wife. We have kids. I have mouths to feed, and pitiful people are trying to ruin it for me and my family. Defensive? You bet! Angry? Yes! Worried? Hell no. Why am I even wasting my time with someone who doesn't have the guts to come out and say who they really are? Give me a break, Terry! Trust me, I have plenty more important things to do than read posts from some "grown" man pretending to be a woman.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW ME! You don't know what I am about, you don't know what I stand for, and you don't know to be a grown-up, apparently. Prove me wrong and stop this masquerading.

When you attack my ability to feed my family, I take extreme offense. My wife and I have not done anything to you, or anyone for that matter, so why the attack? Why the charade? Seriously, just GROW UP and let my family and me live our lives!

I wasn't born yesterday, Terry. When trying to hide behind a false identity and a keyboard, one would think a little, maybe try to change their wording, spacing, typing style, verbage, capitalization, punctuation, language, or maybe even think about using different computers...

How is it that someone in Camarillo, California, and Chandler, Arizona share the same IP address? I can't seem to figure that one out.

My family and I has nothing to do with you, and never will. Remember that when you needlessly attack someone's family.

Feel free to use those pointers next time you decide to try to fake your identity.

In my opinion, this thread is closed. Goodbye

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#26 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Stephanie & Chad

AUTHOR: Terry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 07, 2006

Unlike people like you I am a person of intgerity. I have not or will not under any circumstances stand behind a false identify. If I have something to say I will make it perfectly clear who I am and identify myself appropriately.

Unlike people like you I have a real job and a real life which I am involved with. Unlike people like you I work for a living and don't spend my time making false accusations.

Try and get a life. If you need help doing so address me properly and I will try and help.

TA TA
Thanks TERRY FROM CALIFORNIA NOT ......
Terrie
Teri
from Chandler

Now go away!

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#25 UPDATE EX-employee responds

You're their lawyer...

AUTHOR: Terrie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 07, 2006

IN MY OPINION,

You must be their lawyer.

Post the links where you found all this "PUBLIC INFORMATION."

You state you "I'm not on one side or another", please, anyone reading this would say to the contrary.

POST THE LINKS TO THE INFORMATION SO ALL CAN SEE WHAT YOU SEE, AS THE STORY YOU TALK SO WELL IS NOTHING MORE THE BS.

You people just come out of the wood work.

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#24 Consumer Comment

Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 06, 2006

I worked a few doors down from Wolf/Montoya for a little over two years, so I am familiar with who they are and have been following the website for many months now. I could not help but read ALL the comments. WOW! Nothing short of captivating! I have to admit, after reading some of the comments, I had to wonder what went wrong with these people, Wolf/Montoya? The greed! The postings I read convinced me to hate them enough for the entire state of Arizona and wish them nothing but sorrow. As a researcher by profession, I felt compelled to investigate, Wolf/Montoya and Company, myself in an effort to expose their wrong doings. I was surprised at what I found.

There are lots of public documents as many of you already know. They are extremely easy to find. With that in consideration, it surprised me no one mentioned in the comments the past records with other consumer advocate organizations that might relate to Wolf/Montoya and their business(s). Prior to 2005, I could not find any complaints against Wolf/Montoya! It appears their records were free of complaints. Those go back, I think, 5 years in Arizona. Another comment made mentioned NM as a current or past business location. So I looked in public records there and could find nothing disparaging, past or present. In fact, up to the year 2005, nothing but excellent reports.

This caused moment to pause. I could not help but question why such vehement accusations were being thrown around. I spent hours reading and re-reading the past comments in other categories on this site about the alleged Scandalous Group. Interestingly, some dates and information provided by a man who claims Wolf/Montoya owe hundreds of thousands of dollars to him has posted information on more than one occasion against the couple. He listed himself as an owner of another company and provided disparaging information about the Crooks. Claims of misappropriation of funds, among others were posted. With notes in hand, I went in the direction of public records and court docs in several states.

Although I did find other information about the accuser and some apparent partners, I could not find anything in Cal, the state the accuser posts he lives in, relating to Wolf/Montoya. I did find a lawsuit in Arizona for Breach of Contract against this accuser by Wolf/Montoya dating back to August or September 2005. Those papers gave interesting details about different dates and promises that implicate the same accuser in compromising business practices that began in early 2005 until Wolf/Montoya appear to have terminated the relationship and filed the Breach lawsuit. These same documents reflect a proposed Merger between the accuser and Wolf/Montoya. I also found corporation records at the Arizona State Corporation Commission. There are documents reflecting the accuser on the board of directors in 2005. The same year the accuser involved himself with Wolf/Montoya appears to be the same year Wolf/Montoya attempted business relations with the accuser and was the same year complaints started against Wolf/Montoya.

Now comments on this website also stated Wolf/Montoya filed bankruptcy. I found the corporation bankruptcy filings listing all creditors in public records. There are countless pages of creditors owed. Including many employees & Wolf/Montoya who appear, if I'm reading the documents correctly, are owed wages and lost personal investments in the company. I did not see investments lost by any other accuser and debts to the California man are filed as disputed. The Breach of Contract lawsuit is also listed as an asset in the bankruptcy. Directly below the disputed claim are two other businesses in relation to accuser. Court filings reflect fraudulent transaction.

In my note taking, I also found something about a home purchased by Wolf/Montoya allegedly with stolen money. Considering the personal living address was provided, it was not hard to locate those documents too. First, the home reflects the purchase date around early 2004. Long before even the accuser entered the picture. The date the closing docs were signed was in mid-2005 and no money was put down. The kicker is the home reflects a foreclosure as I write this entry. If Wolf/Montoya were such savvy Crooks why would that be?

Another claim that made my blood boil when I read it, Wolf/Montoya, AKA "The Crooks", used money from customers to build a big pool and backyard. The city in which the Wolf/Montoya home is located requires plot plan approval before swimming pools can be built. By all accounts, no permits were ever pulled and no pool exists at the home location as stated in the comments I read making those accusations without any merit what-so-ever.

This information is available to anyone truly interested in looking for it. I do not have an axe to grind with anyone and had hoped to uncover something implicating these "Crooks" in some kind of wrong doing. But there is nothing. Nothing but red flags making me re-think my earlier opinion. So I have to ask myself and anyone reading my post why more questions are not being asked. When you look at the pieces and the players, the stories just don't fit.

As for consumers looking for vindication, consider this;

You have disgruntled employees who have been harmed so of course they have nothing positive to say. Rather than say nothing at all, they are attempting to distance themselves or thrash someone else, which is unfortunate to say the least, but understandable. In a disgruntled employee case, how often is the story accurately told by the disgruntled? I'm not saying they don't have reason to be. I'm only suggesting taking those comments and hate posts at face value.

You have an accuser making endless accusations against Wolf/Montoya, while Wolf/Montoya were actively suing accuser. That in itself makes accusers posted comments biased, therefore a conflict of interest and an unfair representation of his truth not the truth. His attempt to gain public support for his supposed plight is based on limited information provided to the general public determined by his biased editing. Further, accuser fails to inform the readers on this site the true nature of his business with Wolf/Montoya and what the legal filings state as his unjust enrichment at Wolf/Montoya expense. I attempted to locate accusers response to the lawsuit. It appears, for a brief period, accuser was represented by counsel, however never filed a response to the motion. And by the looks of things in the California public records, accuser and his recorded partners have legal problems of their own. Friends, I have to question accusers credibility here considering he failed to disclose his true relationship, enrichment and history with Wolf/Montoya.

Someone out there is attempting to prevent Wolf/Montoya from working and supporting their family, despite a decent history until working with, what appears to be, some questionable business men. That same someone or people are attempting to hurt anyone they suspect might hire or associate with Wolf/Montoya. It seems innocent business owners and employees who have nothing to do with the turmoil are being dragged into the cesspool. I can't help but scratch my head at that one. What's the point of that? Human nature generally is not to stir the hornet's nest when dealing with truly unethical or questionable personalities. Most people could not run fast enough to get away from those types! Why are so many stirring the hornets nest unless there is an ulterior motive which again makes me question the overall credibility of what I have read about Wolf/Montoya. I am by no means their defender. But I'm seriously questioning my own self-imposed crucifixion of Wolf/Montoya after the documents I obtained! Could it be Wolf/Montoya are victims of circumstance? Could it be Wolf/Montoya are scapegoats? My mission is to help us all find a definitive answer.

I'm not on one side or another. I want to make that clear. But it appears information is missing. Based on my extensive research and evidence gathering, I can't help but question what really went on and who played what role? It's quite clear many people have been hurt. Customers, employees, owners. I met many of the employees named on these posts and all were very nice and appeared to be upstanding, quality driven folks. Including Wolf/Montoya. I also met one man, also named on this sight, who I was introduced to as a partner and appeared to be extremely close to Wolf/Montoya on both a business and personal level. It appears that relationship was also brutally severed. I have the utmost empathy for everyone involved. From what I gather jobs, a business, hard earned money were lost. Relationships were torn and reputations were destroyed. But I have to wonder if our focus is in the right direction and if maybe there is more than meets the eye. I wanted to provide damning evidence against Wolf/Montoya to assist the harmed. But thoroughly reading and in light of the evidence found, I suspect foul but not necessarily by Wolf/Montoya. I will continue my research and post new findings whether shedding a positive or negative light on any player in this catastrophe.

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#23 Consumer Comment

Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 06, 2006

I worked a few doors down from Wolf/Montoya for a little over two years, so I am familiar with who they are and have been following the website for many months now. I could not help but read ALL the comments. WOW! Nothing short of captivating! I have to admit, after reading some of the comments, I had to wonder what went wrong with these people, Wolf/Montoya? The greed! The postings I read convinced me to hate them enough for the entire state of Arizona and wish them nothing but sorrow. As a researcher by profession, I felt compelled to investigate, Wolf/Montoya and Company, myself in an effort to expose their wrong doings. I was surprised at what I found.

There are lots of public documents as many of you already know. They are extremely easy to find. With that in consideration, it surprised me no one mentioned in the comments the past records with other consumer advocate organizations that might relate to Wolf/Montoya and their business(s). Prior to 2005, I could not find any complaints against Wolf/Montoya! It appears their records were free of complaints. Those go back, I think, 5 years in Arizona. Another comment made mentioned NM as a current or past business location. So I looked in public records there and could find nothing disparaging, past or present. In fact, up to the year 2005, nothing but excellent reports.

This caused moment to pause. I could not help but question why such vehement accusations were being thrown around. I spent hours reading and re-reading the past comments in other categories on this site about the alleged Scandalous Group. Interestingly, some dates and information provided by a man who claims Wolf/Montoya owe hundreds of thousands of dollars to him has posted information on more than one occasion against the couple. He listed himself as an owner of another company and provided disparaging information about the Crooks. Claims of misappropriation of funds, among others were posted. With notes in hand, I went in the direction of public records and court docs in several states.

Although I did find other information about the accuser and some apparent partners, I could not find anything in Cal, the state the accuser posts he lives in, relating to Wolf/Montoya. I did find a lawsuit in Arizona for Breach of Contract against this accuser by Wolf/Montoya dating back to August or September 2005. Those papers gave interesting details about different dates and promises that implicate the same accuser in compromising business practices that began in early 2005 until Wolf/Montoya appear to have terminated the relationship and filed the Breach lawsuit. These same documents reflect a proposed Merger between the accuser and Wolf/Montoya. I also found corporation records at the Arizona State Corporation Commission. There are documents reflecting the accuser on the board of directors in 2005. The same year the accuser involved himself with Wolf/Montoya appears to be the same year Wolf/Montoya attempted business relations with the accuser and was the same year complaints started against Wolf/Montoya.

Now comments on this website also stated Wolf/Montoya filed bankruptcy. I found the corporation bankruptcy filings listing all creditors in public records. There are countless pages of creditors owed. Including many employees & Wolf/Montoya who appear, if I'm reading the documents correctly, are owed wages and lost personal investments in the company. I did not see investments lost by any other accuser and debts to the California man are filed as disputed. The Breach of Contract lawsuit is also listed as an asset in the bankruptcy. Directly below the disputed claim are two other businesses in relation to accuser. Court filings reflect fraudulent transaction.

In my note taking, I also found something about a home purchased by Wolf/Montoya allegedly with stolen money. Considering the personal living address was provided, it was not hard to locate those documents too. First, the home reflects the purchase date around early 2004. Long before even the accuser entered the picture. The date the closing docs were signed was in mid-2005 and no money was put down. The kicker is the home reflects a foreclosure as I write this entry. If Wolf/Montoya were such savvy Crooks why would that be?

Another claim that made my blood boil when I read it, Wolf/Montoya, AKA "The Crooks", used money from customers to build a big pool and backyard. The city in which the Wolf/Montoya home is located requires plot plan approval before swimming pools can be built. By all accounts, no permits were ever pulled and no pool exists at the home location as stated in the comments I read making those accusations without any merit what-so-ever.

This information is available to anyone truly interested in looking for it. I do not have an axe to grind with anyone and had hoped to uncover something implicating these "Crooks" in some kind of wrong doing. But there is nothing. Nothing but red flags making me re-think my earlier opinion. So I have to ask myself and anyone reading my post why more questions are not being asked. When you look at the pieces and the players, the stories just don't fit.

As for consumers looking for vindication, consider this;

You have disgruntled employees who have been harmed so of course they have nothing positive to say. Rather than say nothing at all, they are attempting to distance themselves or thrash someone else, which is unfortunate to say the least, but understandable. In a disgruntled employee case, how often is the story accurately told by the disgruntled? I'm not saying they don't have reason to be. I'm only suggesting taking those comments and hate posts at face value.

You have an accuser making endless accusations against Wolf/Montoya, while Wolf/Montoya were actively suing accuser. That in itself makes accusers posted comments biased, therefore a conflict of interest and an unfair representation of his truth not the truth. His attempt to gain public support for his supposed plight is based on limited information provided to the general public determined by his biased editing. Further, accuser fails to inform the readers on this site the true nature of his business with Wolf/Montoya and what the legal filings state as his unjust enrichment at Wolf/Montoya expense. I attempted to locate accusers response to the lawsuit. It appears, for a brief period, accuser was represented by counsel, however never filed a response to the motion. And by the looks of things in the California public records, accuser and his recorded partners have legal problems of their own. Friends, I have to question accusers credibility here considering he failed to disclose his true relationship, enrichment and history with Wolf/Montoya.

Someone out there is attempting to prevent Wolf/Montoya from working and supporting their family, despite a decent history until working with, what appears to be, some questionable business men. That same someone or people are attempting to hurt anyone they suspect might hire or associate with Wolf/Montoya. It seems innocent business owners and employees who have nothing to do with the turmoil are being dragged into the cesspool. I can't help but scratch my head at that one. What's the point of that? Human nature generally is not to stir the hornet's nest when dealing with truly unethical or questionable personalities. Most people could not run fast enough to get away from those types! Why are so many stirring the hornets nest unless there is an ulterior motive which again makes me question the overall credibility of what I have read about Wolf/Montoya. I am by no means their defender. But I'm seriously questioning my own self-imposed crucifixion of Wolf/Montoya after the documents I obtained! Could it be Wolf/Montoya are victims of circumstance? Could it be Wolf/Montoya are scapegoats? My mission is to help us all find a definitive answer.

I'm not on one side or another. I want to make that clear. But it appears information is missing. Based on my extensive research and evidence gathering, I can't help but question what really went on and who played what role? It's quite clear many people have been hurt. Customers, employees, owners. I met many of the employees named on these posts and all were very nice and appeared to be upstanding, quality driven folks. Including Wolf/Montoya. I also met one man, also named on this sight, who I was introduced to as a partner and appeared to be extremely close to Wolf/Montoya on both a business and personal level. It appears that relationship was also brutally severed. I have the utmost empathy for everyone involved. From what I gather jobs, a business, hard earned money were lost. Relationships were torn and reputations were destroyed. But I have to wonder if our focus is in the right direction and if maybe there is more than meets the eye. I wanted to provide damning evidence against Wolf/Montoya to assist the harmed. But thoroughly reading and in light of the evidence found, I suspect foul but not necessarily by Wolf/Montoya. I will continue my research and post new findings whether shedding a positive or negative light on any player in this catastrophe.

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#22 Consumer Comment

Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 06, 2006

I worked a few doors down from Wolf/Montoya for a little over two years, so I am familiar with who they are and have been following the website for many months now. I could not help but read ALL the comments. WOW! Nothing short of captivating! I have to admit, after reading some of the comments, I had to wonder what went wrong with these people, Wolf/Montoya? The greed! The postings I read convinced me to hate them enough for the entire state of Arizona and wish them nothing but sorrow. As a researcher by profession, I felt compelled to investigate, Wolf/Montoya and Company, myself in an effort to expose their wrong doings. I was surprised at what I found.

There are lots of public documents as many of you already know. They are extremely easy to find. With that in consideration, it surprised me no one mentioned in the comments the past records with other consumer advocate organizations that might relate to Wolf/Montoya and their business(s). Prior to 2005, I could not find any complaints against Wolf/Montoya! It appears their records were free of complaints. Those go back, I think, 5 years in Arizona. Another comment made mentioned NM as a current or past business location. So I looked in public records there and could find nothing disparaging, past or present. In fact, up to the year 2005, nothing but excellent reports.

This caused moment to pause. I could not help but question why such vehement accusations were being thrown around. I spent hours reading and re-reading the past comments in other categories on this site about the alleged Scandalous Group. Interestingly, some dates and information provided by a man who claims Wolf/Montoya owe hundreds of thousands of dollars to him has posted information on more than one occasion against the couple. He listed himself as an owner of another company and provided disparaging information about the Crooks. Claims of misappropriation of funds, among others were posted. With notes in hand, I went in the direction of public records and court docs in several states.

Although I did find other information about the accuser and some apparent partners, I could not find anything in Cal, the state the accuser posts he lives in, relating to Wolf/Montoya. I did find a lawsuit in Arizona for Breach of Contract against this accuser by Wolf/Montoya dating back to August or September 2005. Those papers gave interesting details about different dates and promises that implicate the same accuser in compromising business practices that began in early 2005 until Wolf/Montoya appear to have terminated the relationship and filed the Breach lawsuit. These same documents reflect a proposed Merger between the accuser and Wolf/Montoya. I also found corporation records at the Arizona State Corporation Commission. There are documents reflecting the accuser on the board of directors in 2005. The same year the accuser involved himself with Wolf/Montoya appears to be the same year Wolf/Montoya attempted business relations with the accuser and was the same year complaints started against Wolf/Montoya.

Now comments on this website also stated Wolf/Montoya filed bankruptcy. I found the corporation bankruptcy filings listing all creditors in public records. There are countless pages of creditors owed. Including many employees & Wolf/Montoya who appear, if I'm reading the documents correctly, are owed wages and lost personal investments in the company. I did not see investments lost by any other accuser and debts to the California man are filed as disputed. The Breach of Contract lawsuit is also listed as an asset in the bankruptcy. Directly below the disputed claim are two other businesses in relation to accuser. Court filings reflect fraudulent transaction.

In my note taking, I also found something about a home purchased by Wolf/Montoya allegedly with stolen money. Considering the personal living address was provided, it was not hard to locate those documents too. First, the home reflects the purchase date around early 2004. Long before even the accuser entered the picture. The date the closing docs were signed was in mid-2005 and no money was put down. The kicker is the home reflects a foreclosure as I write this entry. If Wolf/Montoya were such savvy Crooks why would that be?

Another claim that made my blood boil when I read it, Wolf/Montoya, AKA "The Crooks", used money from customers to build a big pool and backyard. The city in which the Wolf/Montoya home is located requires plot plan approval before swimming pools can be built. By all accounts, no permits were ever pulled and no pool exists at the home location as stated in the comments I read making those accusations without any merit what-so-ever.

This information is available to anyone truly interested in looking for it. I do not have an axe to grind with anyone and had hoped to uncover something implicating these "Crooks" in some kind of wrong doing. But there is nothing. Nothing but red flags making me re-think my earlier opinion. So I have to ask myself and anyone reading my post why more questions are not being asked. When you look at the pieces and the players, the stories just don't fit.

As for consumers looking for vindication, consider this;

You have disgruntled employees who have been harmed so of course they have nothing positive to say. Rather than say nothing at all, they are attempting to distance themselves or thrash someone else, which is unfortunate to say the least, but understandable. In a disgruntled employee case, how often is the story accurately told by the disgruntled? I'm not saying they don't have reason to be. I'm only suggesting taking those comments and hate posts at face value.

You have an accuser making endless accusations against Wolf/Montoya, while Wolf/Montoya were actively suing accuser. That in itself makes accusers posted comments biased, therefore a conflict of interest and an unfair representation of his truth not the truth. His attempt to gain public support for his supposed plight is based on limited information provided to the general public determined by his biased editing. Further, accuser fails to inform the readers on this site the true nature of his business with Wolf/Montoya and what the legal filings state as his unjust enrichment at Wolf/Montoya expense. I attempted to locate accusers response to the lawsuit. It appears, for a brief period, accuser was represented by counsel, however never filed a response to the motion. And by the looks of things in the California public records, accuser and his recorded partners have legal problems of their own. Friends, I have to question accusers credibility here considering he failed to disclose his true relationship, enrichment and history with Wolf/Montoya.

Someone out there is attempting to prevent Wolf/Montoya from working and supporting their family, despite a decent history until working with, what appears to be, some questionable business men. That same someone or people are attempting to hurt anyone they suspect might hire or associate with Wolf/Montoya. It seems innocent business owners and employees who have nothing to do with the turmoil are being dragged into the cesspool. I can't help but scratch my head at that one. What's the point of that? Human nature generally is not to stir the hornet's nest when dealing with truly unethical or questionable personalities. Most people could not run fast enough to get away from those types! Why are so many stirring the hornets nest unless there is an ulterior motive which again makes me question the overall credibility of what I have read about Wolf/Montoya. I am by no means their defender. But I'm seriously questioning my own self-imposed crucifixion of Wolf/Montoya after the documents I obtained! Could it be Wolf/Montoya are victims of circumstance? Could it be Wolf/Montoya are scapegoats? My mission is to help us all find a definitive answer.

I'm not on one side or another. I want to make that clear. But it appears information is missing. Based on my extensive research and evidence gathering, I can't help but question what really went on and who played what role? It's quite clear many people have been hurt. Customers, employees, owners. I met many of the employees named on these posts and all were very nice and appeared to be upstanding, quality driven folks. Including Wolf/Montoya. I also met one man, also named on this sight, who I was introduced to as a partner and appeared to be extremely close to Wolf/Montoya on both a business and personal level. It appears that relationship was also brutally severed. I have the utmost empathy for everyone involved. From what I gather jobs, a business, hard earned money were lost. Relationships were torn and reputations were destroyed. But I have to wonder if our focus is in the right direction and if maybe there is more than meets the eye. I wanted to provide damning evidence against Wolf/Montoya to assist the harmed. But thoroughly reading and in light of the evidence found, I suspect foul but not necessarily by Wolf/Montoya. I will continue my research and post new findings whether shedding a positive or negative light on any player in this catastrophe.

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#21 Consumer Comment

Wolf/Montoya "Crooks"!?

AUTHOR: Allen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 06, 2006

I worked a few doors down from Wolf/Montoya for a little over two years, so I am familiar with who they are and have been following the website for many months now. I could not help but read ALL the comments. WOW! Nothing short of captivating! I have to admit, after reading some of the comments, I had to wonder what went wrong with these people, Wolf/Montoya? The greed! The postings I read convinced me to hate them enough for the entire state of Arizona and wish them nothing but sorrow. As a researcher by profession, I felt compelled to investigate, Wolf/Montoya and Company, myself in an effort to expose their wrong doings. I was surprised at what I found.

There are lots of public documents as many of you already know. They are extremely easy to find. With that in consideration, it surprised me no one mentioned in the comments the past records with other consumer advocate organizations that might relate to Wolf/Montoya and their business(s). Prior to 2005, I could not find any complaints against Wolf/Montoya! It appears their records were free of complaints. Those go back, I think, 5 years in Arizona. Another comment made mentioned NM as a current or past business location. So I looked in public records there and could find nothing disparaging, past or present. In fact, up to the year 2005, nothing but excellent reports.

This caused moment to pause. I could not help but question why such vehement accusations were being thrown around. I spent hours reading and re-reading the past comments in other categories on this site about the alleged Scandalous Group. Interestingly, some dates and information provided by a man who claims Wolf/Montoya owe hundreds of thousands of dollars to him has posted information on more than one occasion against the couple. He listed himself as an owner of another company and provided disparaging information about the Crooks. Claims of misappropriation of funds, among others were posted. With notes in hand, I went in the direction of public records and court docs in several states.

Although I did find other information about the accuser and some apparent partners, I could not find anything in Cal, the state the accuser posts he lives in, relating to Wolf/Montoya. I did find a lawsuit in Arizona for Breach of Contract against this accuser by Wolf/Montoya dating back to August or September 2005. Those papers gave interesting details about different dates and promises that implicate the same accuser in compromising business practices that began in early 2005 until Wolf/Montoya appear to have terminated the relationship and filed the Breach lawsuit. These same documents reflect a proposed Merger between the accuser and Wolf/Montoya. I also found corporation records at the Arizona State Corporation Commission. There are documents reflecting the accuser on the board of directors in 2005. The same year the accuser involved himself with Wolf/Montoya appears to be the same year Wolf/Montoya attempted business relations with the accuser and was the same year complaints started against Wolf/Montoya.

Now comments on this website also stated Wolf/Montoya filed bankruptcy. I found the corporation bankruptcy filings listing all creditors in public records. There are countless pages of creditors owed. Including many employees & Wolf/Montoya who appear, if I'm reading the documents correctly, are owed wages and lost personal investments in the company. I did not see investments lost by any other accuser and debts to the California man are filed as disputed. The Breach of Contract lawsuit is also listed as an asset in the bankruptcy. Directly below the disputed claim are two other businesses in relation to accuser. Court filings reflect fraudulent transaction.

In my note taking, I also found something about a home purchased by Wolf/Montoya allegedly with stolen money. Considering the personal living address was provided, it was not hard to locate those documents too. First, the home reflects the purchase date around early 2004. Long before even the accuser entered the picture. The date the closing docs were signed was in mid-2005 and no money was put down. The kicker is the home reflects a foreclosure as I write this entry. If Wolf/Montoya were such savvy Crooks why would that be?

Another claim that made my blood boil when I read it, Wolf/Montoya, AKA "The Crooks", used money from customers to build a big pool and backyard. The city in which the Wolf/Montoya home is located requires plot plan approval before swimming pools can be built. By all accounts, no permits were ever pulled and no pool exists at the home location as stated in the comments I read making those accusations without any merit what-so-ever.

This information is available to anyone truly interested in looking for it. I do not have an axe to grind with anyone and had hoped to uncover something implicating these "Crooks" in some kind of wrong doing. But there is nothing. Nothing but red flags making me re-think my earlier opinion. So I have to ask myself and anyone reading my post why more questions are not being asked. When you look at the pieces and the players, the stories just don't fit.

As for consumers looking for vindication, consider this;

You have disgruntled employees who have been harmed so of course they have nothing positive to say. Rather than say nothing at all, they are attempting to distance themselves or thrash someone else, which is unfortunate to say the least, but understandable. In a disgruntled employee case, how often is the story accurately told by the disgruntled? I'm not saying they don't have reason to be. I'm only suggesting taking those comments and hate posts at face value.

You have an accuser making endless accusations against Wolf/Montoya, while Wolf/Montoya were actively suing accuser. That in itself makes accusers posted comments biased, therefore a conflict of interest and an unfair representation of his truth not the truth. His attempt to gain public support for his supposed plight is based on limited information provided to the general public determined by his biased editing. Further, accuser fails to inform the readers on this site the true nature of his business with Wolf/Montoya and what the legal filings state as his unjust enrichment at Wolf/Montoya expense. I attempted to locate accusers response to the lawsuit. It appears, for a brief period, accuser was represented by counsel, however never filed a response to the motion. And by the looks of things in the California public records, accuser and his recorded partners have legal problems of their own. Friends, I have to question accusers credibility here considering he failed to disclose his true relationship, enrichment and history with Wolf/Montoya.

Someone out there is attempting to prevent Wolf/Montoya from working and supporting their family, despite a decent history until working with, what appears to be, some questionable business men. That same someone or people are attempting to hurt anyone they suspect might hire or associate with Wolf/Montoya. It seems innocent business owners and employees who have nothing to do with the turmoil are being dragged into the cesspool. I can't help but scratch my head at that one. What's the point of that? Human nature generally is not to stir the hornet's nest when dealing with truly unethical or questionable personalities. Most people could not run fast enough to get away from those types! Why are so many stirring the hornets nest unless there is an ulterior motive which again makes me question the overall credibility of what I have read about Wolf/Montoya. I am by no means their defender. But I'm seriously questioning my own self-imposed crucifixion of Wolf/Montoya after the documents I obtained! Could it be Wolf/Montoya are victims of circumstance? Could it be Wolf/Montoya are scapegoats? My mission is to help us all find a definitive answer.

I'm not on one side or another. I want to make that clear. But it appears information is missing. Based on my extensive research and evidence gathering, I can't help but question what really went on and who played what role? It's quite clear many people have been hurt. Customers, employees, owners. I met many of the employees named on these posts and all were very nice and appeared to be upstanding, quality driven folks. Including Wolf/Montoya. I also met one man, also named on this sight, who I was introduced to as a partner and appeared to be extremely close to Wolf/Montoya on both a business and personal level. It appears that relationship was also brutally severed. I have the utmost empathy for everyone involved. From what I gather jobs, a business, hard earned money were lost. Relationships were torn and reputations were destroyed. But I have to wonder if our focus is in the right direction and if maybe there is more than meets the eye. I wanted to provide damning evidence against Wolf/Montoya to assist the harmed. But thoroughly reading and in light of the evidence found, I suspect foul but not necessarily by Wolf/Montoya. I will continue my research and post new findings whether shedding a positive or negative light on any player in this catastrophe.

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#20 Consumer Suggestion

LOL!

AUTHOR: I Know The Truth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

Terrie,

Your taliking about dishonest? WHY cant you put that you are from CALIFORNIA, not Chandler, az. Terrie Clites, yes I know who you are, just stop. You have no proof of ANYTHING. If you do like you say...which you dont, please....lets see it...enlighten me! Yes I am the former Stephanie Abraham, now Bendel that worked for Ken & Kristen...but as you know....they fired me. And what right do you have to look up and tell everyone who my husband works for??? I am not sure if you know this, but several people that used to work for DBASF have started there own company. Wes, Nils, Gary.... ya I am not the only one. SO why are you attacking me???? I was nothing but nice to you and now you are tring to ruin my company because you have a "hunch" I am working with K & K. Its not true, so lay off. Until you have some proof....back off. Which you will NEVER get. If you have "done your homework" you would see that this business is owned by My husband & I. Where did you look that states K & K have anything to do with BDFO??? Nowhere...that's where. All it is, your accusations, is a hunch.

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#19 UPDATE Employee

Terrie?

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

You mean Terry?
Are you still working for Premier?
Again, if you actually had a life, or any shred of fortitude, you'd release your REAL name, and not pretend to be a woman from Chandler.

Chad Bendel

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#18 UPDATE Employee

Terrie?

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

You mean Terry?
Are you still working for Premier?
Again, if you actually had a life, or any shred of fortitude, you'd release your REAL name, and not pretend to be a woman from Chandler.

Chad Bendel

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#17 UPDATE Employee

Terrie?

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

You mean Terry?
Are you still working for Premier?
Again, if you actually had a life, or any shred of fortitude, you'd release your REAL name, and not pretend to be a woman from Chandler.

Chad Bendel

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#16 UPDATE Employee

Terrie?

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

You mean Terry?
Are you still working for Premier?
Again, if you actually had a life, or any shred of fortitude, you'd release your REAL name, and not pretend to be a woman from Chandler.

Chad Bendel

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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

GROW UP PEOPLE!!

AUTHOR: Chad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, June 05, 2006

Okay, I for one am getting SICK of this slanderous and FALSE information being posted about mine and my wife's current business venture. This is complete and utter BS and people just need to grow the hell up.
Discount Blind and Shade, aside from being Stephanie's previous employer, have NOTHING to do with this current venture of ours. If they did, Terrie, you're so smart, public record would SAY that they were. But it doesn't. And the address you posted? Do you feel good about yourself? That's not our address. It's not my address, it never has been. I don't know who you think you are, or how bad you got ripped off, LEAVE MY NAME and my WIFE'S name out of your words. Whether the afformentioned people screwed you over or not, I DID NOT. WE DID NOT. As a matter of fact, ever since Stephanie and Discount parted ways, we have been kicking around the idea of starting our own company. And now that we have, people have nothing better to do than SPECULATE. Which is besides the point anyways. The bottom line is as follows:

I have a family to feed, and plenty of things to keep me busy other than this garbage. And yes, Autonation is one of them. Do you feel like a good little detective figuring that out? It's not that hard. I've been working there for 3 years now. Why don't you come in and see me? If you weren't being such a chicken and hiding behind a keyboard and a fake name, I could find out just as much about you. None of us are strangers to public records, obviously.

So here's the deal. All of us have lots of better things to worry about (apparently you don't, however). You really should get out, get a life, and leave me and my family out of it. We are honest people, and I do not need to read this garbage being posted by someone with ZERO facts, and obviously nothing else to occupy their time.

Get a life, people. Seriously. And let me and my family live ours.

Chad Bendel
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

How dare you...

AUTHOR: Terrie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 03, 2006

So you say you have nothing to do with Ken & Kristin? Are you not the same Stephanie Abraham AKA Stephanie Bendel, a long time employee of Ken & Kristin? Does Chad still work for Autonation? See, I am more then meets the eye and yes, I have done more then just a simple look up a bogus website and business on a county website. Stop the lies already.

In my OPINION, David Patai, Wes McLaughlin and now you continue to keep these scumbags in business. Do they have pictures of you guys in compromising positions that they can blackmail all of you with or something? I have never seen a group of such dishonest people in my life.

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Thanxs!

AUTHOR: I Know The Truth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, June 03, 2006

John,

Thank you for your ligitimate investigations. As you know it only takes 5 minutes to look up the info and see the truth! But people would rather accuse off of information that is not factual.

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#12 Consumer Comment

Public Record

AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 01, 2006

Teri,

As a disinterested party that has watched this going on for a while I feel compelled to tell that if you take his advise and go on line to the recorders office you will see that Chad and Stephanie Bendel trade named this less than 60 days ago. Their address is not the one you listed and as an experienced investigator I found no common relationship to the gulity parties by name or former addresses.

There is nothing in public records that would suggest that your claims are right. This is not an OPINION.

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Thank You "Terrie" for your....OPINION!

AUTHOR: I Know The Truth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 01, 2006

Terrie,

Thank You for what you call your OPINION. However, if you are now statting that you were posting your opinion, then are you Mike??? Because I know for a fact that a MIKE (Besides Mychael Marrgott, an owner of DBASF) never worked for DBASF. If you are making postings with the name Mike....then why not be honest as to who you are if your so confident in your "OPINION".

As far as your accusations of Blinds Direct Factory Outlet being owned by Wolf/Montoya, that is absolutely absurd and I would LOVE to know where you got that "Factual" information. That information, my friend, is you "Opinion". Are you aware of the difference? If your not, maybe you should check with you 3rd grade teacher for a full explanation. As far as me knowing the meaning of slander and being able to prove it, dont worry...got it covered.

Now, from your comments about where is your paycheck, it only leads me to believe you were an employee of DBASF??? If so, maybe you should contact them regarding your check. I do not owe you a dime and I do not live @ the address you stated. If you do not believe me or you are still inclined to think Wolf/Montoya are the owners of Blinds Direct Factory Outlet, check with the Maricopa County Recorder or the IRS....any of those types of places are places you can get Factual info....not Rip Off Report.com. Thanks, Have a great Day!!!!

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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Shutters USA, Santa Fe Out West, Discount Blind and Shade Factory, American Shutter Company, the list is endless, have been ripping people off for years ...You're a joke.. IN MY OPINION

AUTHOR: Terrie - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, May 07, 2006

IN MY OPINION, you are the same person, Ken & Kristen Montoya/Wolfe. I too have done my homework and I am not making any accusations, I am merely stating MY OPINION. You hide behind your keyboard and make idle threats. Slander is a very, very hard thing to prove. Slander is a word that you should discuss with your attorney before using it. That's right, you have. You, Mr. I know the truth are a scumbag and hide behind a new company and continue to take peoples money. Again, this is my OPINION. Shutters USA, Santa Fe Out West, Discount Blind and Shade Factory, American Shutter Company, the list is endless, have been ripping people off for years, you even ripped people off in New Mexico. How's the house on 5780 S. Marion Place, Chandler AZ 85249?

WHERE'S MY PAYCHECK?

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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Blinds Direct is NOT owned by Wolf/Montoya

AUTHOR: I Know The Truth - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, May 01, 2006

I am not sure who posted these postings or what your objectives are, but Kristen and Ken are not the owners of blinds direct factory outlet or the .com. I am, and I would appreciate it if you would stop slamming MY company. If further slander is posted, lawsuites will file. I have a family to feed and a business to run. Your postings are not factual and you have no proof of your accusations. So, Please......Stop!

Thank You!

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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Correction: (One of) Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf's new businesses is Blinds Direct Factory Outlet.com!

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Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Correction: (One of) Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf's new businesses is Blinds Direct Factory Outlet.com!

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Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Correction: (One of) Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf's new businesses is Blinds Direct Factory Outlet.com!

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Correction - Blinds Direct Factory OUTLET.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006

Correction: (One of) Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf's new businesses is Blinds Direct Factory Outlet.com!

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Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Hey Mike,

You're right about Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf! In fact they now are running a .com biz under Blinds Direct Factory Outlet at http://blindsdirectfactoryoutlet.com/.

If you go to this site, you'll notice the ONLY contact info is for orders, along with 888 numbers yet no physical address. If you call the number, Kristen answers the phone!! Appears they're running this one out of their home (after all, no need to have a factory for shutters when shutters will never actually be made or ordered!)

They're looking to cash in on the anonymity offered by the internet!

All new Consumers BEWARE!! Read the postings on this site and check out the information provided for yourself!

However, about Wes, I think he's out alot of money too. He's no buddy of Montoya and Wolf, and was put into a similar situation as all of us. You can check this out for yourself by looking up the legal docs on posted on this site as well. I think he was a guy who did the same thing we all did, trust two people who are incredibly dishonest!

Check it out for yourselves--just don't get taken!

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Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Hey Mike,

You're right about Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf! In fact they now are running a .com biz under Blinds Direct Factory Outlet at http://blindsdirectfactoryoutlet.com/.

If you go to this site, you'll notice the ONLY contact info is for orders, along with 888 numbers yet no physical address. If you call the number, Kristen answers the phone!! Appears they're running this one out of their home (after all, no need to have a factory for shutters when shutters will never actually be made or ordered!)

They're looking to cash in on the anonymity offered by the internet!

All new Consumers BEWARE!! Read the postings on this site and check out the information provided for yourself!

However, about Wes, I think he's out alot of money too. He's no buddy of Montoya and Wolf, and was put into a similar situation as all of us. You can check this out for yourself by looking up the legal docs on posted on this site as well. I think he was a guy who did the same thing we all did, trust two people who are incredibly dishonest!

Check it out for yourselves--just don't get taken!

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Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Hey Mike,

You're right about Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf! In fact they now are running a .com biz under Blinds Direct Factory Outlet at http://blindsdirectfactoryoutlet.com/.

If you go to this site, you'll notice the ONLY contact info is for orders, along with 888 numbers yet no physical address. If you call the number, Kristen answers the phone!! Appears they're running this one out of their home (after all, no need to have a factory for shutters when shutters will never actually be made or ordered!)

They're looking to cash in on the anonymity offered by the internet!

All new Consumers BEWARE!! Read the postings on this site and check out the information provided for yourself!

However, about Wes, I think he's out alot of money too. He's no buddy of Montoya and Wolf, and was put into a similar situation as all of us. You can check this out for yourself by looking up the legal docs on posted on this site as well. I think he was a guy who did the same thing we all did, trust two people who are incredibly dishonest!

Check it out for yourselves--just don't get taken!

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Montoya and Wolf New Biz - Beware Blinds Direct Factory.com

AUTHOR: Jake - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 25, 2006

Hey Mike,

You're right about Ken Montoya and Kristen Wolf! In fact they now are running a .com biz under Blinds Direct Factory Outlet at http://blindsdirectfactoryoutlet.com/.

If you go to this site, you'll notice the ONLY contact info is for orders, along with 888 numbers yet no physical address. If you call the number, Kristen answers the phone!! Appears they're running this one out of their home (after all, no need to have a factory for shutters when shutters will never actually be made or ordered!)

They're looking to cash in on the anonymity offered by the internet!

All new Consumers BEWARE!! Read the postings on this site and check out the information provided for yourself!

However, about Wes, I think he's out alot of money too. He's no buddy of Montoya and Wolf, and was put into a similar situation as all of us. You can check this out for yourself by looking up the legal docs on posted on this site as well. I think he was a guy who did the same thing we all did, trust two people who are incredibly dishonest!

Check it out for yourselves--just don't get taken!

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