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Complaint Review: Eckankar the path of spiritual freedom - Chanhassen Minnesota

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  • Reported By: Colby — Chanhassen United States
  • Eckankar the path of spiritual freedom 7450 Powers Blvd. Chanhassen, Minnesota United States

Eckankar the path of spiritual freedom They lied about the religions formation and cunningly kept it from me because the religion is made up, and they have lied to me continuously so that I would continue to make donations to them. They have known all along that the religion is made up, yet they never ever told me, and wasted years and years of my life spending money and going in circles from made up techniques. Chanhassen Minnesota

*Consumer Comment: Paul Twitchell Never Intended That His Made Up Religion Would Continue After His Death

*Consumer Comment: Paul Twitchell Never Intended That Eckankar Continue Past His Death

*Author of original report: You cannot just roll over and play dead or do nothing

*Author of original report: Circle of Life: Rolling over and playing dead or doing absolutely nothing is not the way to go.

*General Comment: They are all made up..

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I just cant stomach another day without expressing an outrage that eckankar continues to exist off of the pain and suffering of other people based on deceit.

I am really shocked at the nativity of eckankar members, me being a former member that just could not deal with the outright lies and deception of higher initiates controlled by the church in Chanhassen. After decades of evidence revealing outright fraud in the making up of eckankar by Paul Twitchell, then brought forward by Darwin Gross and now masterminded into new forms to cover up its fraudulent past by the current president and the current master.

Despie knowing for years that all of us members had been lied to and robbed of membership money we contributed, no body bothered to tell us we had all been lied to, and kept us in the dark by higher initiates and the Eck master that tried to cover up the eckankar past.

 

 I find it shocking that members do not know that the resources they contribute, go toward criminal activity, by deceiving the public in presenting a made up lie, then knowingly covering up this fact and keeping paying members in the dark who would probably not support them if they knew eckankars roots. 

 

This point is summed up nicely by a person who wrote into this forum with the following concerns, as to the legitimacy of what others have wrote in, about eckankar member monetary resources that are used for profit, by private parties who are high up in eckankar. 

 

So I will write here an original commentary on what I know to be true, about the concerned parties questions, that I will answer.

 

The concerned party wrote in relation to the following, and is answered question by question: 

 

Thus Concerned Person’s Opening Statement as:  in Eckankar centers, numerous individuals have access to a non-profit bank account? (Sorry, but I find it very difficult to believe that so many people could possibly be allowed access to an organization's bank account.)

 

My Answer: Abroad for instance, and basically in other countries, far away from our safe U.S. shores, Eckankar has required Charity Business Accounts, that Eckankar officers have designated access to. 

 

Harry Kebbel now deceased, fortunately for himself, because the C.I.D. and IRS apparently have an interest in him. Kebbel was a high initiate and signer officer to an Eckankar charity banking account, which he used to launder his personal resources through, as well as other Eckankar finances from abroad. How do I know this? His widow in a troubling moment told me this at a seminar in the United States. She also got an instant 5th invitation from Eckankar, to remain silent to the government, if they pried further into this fact. In the United States designated center officers have access to tax exemption accounts, which they frivolously use for private purposes from funds given over to them by paid members of Eckankar.

 

Another unknown fact is that, key hackers in Anonymous,  are actual Eckankar paying members. These hackers tried to take Scientology down, because Eckankar, was designed by Twitchell and his boss Hubbard, that he paid with eckankar proceeds, because eckankar is a hidden Scientology unit.

 

In Nigeria, an ex-president of Eckankar, with the help of chelas there, laundered millions of dollars through charity bank accounts there, for their own private interests use, as higher up officers in Eckankar. Member supported funds which were supposed to go to study programs associated with paid membership service. Those same account users  with private interests, are still paid officers of Eckankar and despite court proceedings to expose other groups in Nigeria like them. That is so because, key banking authorities who regulate laws pertaining to charity accounts there in Nigeria, are eckankar high initiates. 

 

Space and time do not permit documenting other Eckankar Charity based accounts, doing similar scams in other countries, for private officers of the corporation, mostly carried out through shelf companies hiding real estate holdings, not charity associated, nor structured for charity status in the United States. 

 

France squashed one of those real estate charity scams, yet other countries in Europe who are over their heads in other matters, are unable to make quick conclusions to other Eckankar  real estate scams there, involving money laundering on the continent, based on dilapidated real estate holdings, hiding behind shelf companies.

 

Concerned Person Statement: (In my experience, the treasurer of a group monitors the account, and makes deposits and withdrawals. )

 

My Answer: Yes, this is supposed to be the way it is done by honest people, following legal protocol, established by the government for charity accounts. Nevertheless, Eckankar officers designated for this purpose, have acted outside of legal protocol, and thus moving resources into their own pockets, intended originally for paid membership purposes.

 

Concerned Person Statement: (If so many people have access to an organization's bank account, then any one of those unstable, unsavory, drug-addicted people could simply withdraw all the cash in the account - and drug addicts certainly would.)

 

My Answer: Yes absolutely, and these parties have over time, smartly procuring interest on deposits, as more resources continuously go into the charity based accounts that supports these persons.

 

Concerned Person Statement: (If you dislike the organization, just say so.  This is obviously fabricated lies which make no sense.  Thus, I won't even both commenting on the rest of the report.)

 

My Answer: You may believe previous reports in Ripoff Report are based on fabricated lies, yet the Unites States Justice System does not. The Federal Government does not consider the accumulated evidence, which has been gathered  as fact, as nonsensical, otherwise it would not have pursued due process as an expanding effort which is taking shape very meticulously. The United States Federal Court in Minnesota has designated Eckankar as a cult like organization, based on facts, furnished by frightened harassed witnesses, some of whom were jail confined, to gag presentation of evidence against them.

 

The New Mexico Attorney General is in process of bringing to trial and prosecuting private affiliates associated with Eckankar, who laundered resources, using Eckankar as a charity contribution option, and using shelf companies to hide behind, making real estate deals in the United States and abroad, then cleaning their resources through designated Eckankar charity facilities.

 

One of those affiliates is hiding behind a German “Bankers Passport”, and is wanted in New Mexico for fraud, however Germany, does not extradite its citizens, so this party apparently, thought out their scheming carefully. The wanted party lives in a protected suburb of Munich, that does not allow car access to an exclusive housing area, with the wanted persons house, owned by a corporate entity, and managed by a German attorney. Yet, in this subjects case other extraneous evidence waives their rights and precludes them. Fortunately, this particular subject is tied into other more alarming extraneous crimes tied into misuse of other particulars indirectly associated supposedly with the Clinton Foundation, as damning evidence, that therefore waives the parties non extradition rights, and precludes them.

 

If anyone has any further questions or concerns about charity fraud strategies and practices, pick up your telephone and call the F.B.I. or New Mexico Attorney Generals office, to become educated against any potential naivety.  In the United States, it is still a crime to use a charity facility designated as church exemption, to accumulate wealth for private interests not associated with charity status, regardless of where such activity takes place as it pertains to the Parent Organization located in United States territory.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Paul Twitchell Never Intended That His Made Up Religion Would Continue After His Death

AUTHOR: Meyer - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, September 28, 2019
  • I want to comment on eckankar because I notice on this website nobody has pointed out Twitchell never intended to continue his made up religion past his death. 

 

  • Eckankar is a fraudulent sham based on observations from my own personal experience with its henchmen trying to live off the backs of those who did in some way benefit initially from ideas devised in part by Paul Twitchell. 

Don’t misinterpret my intention though of presenting this text to you. Twitchell’s ideas were intriguing but in my own case as I discovered later on influenced me to the edge of disaster because they were not based on sound principles governing astute behavior.

I am writing this perhaps as the only person alive who can accurately describe last wishes and days of Paul Twitchell. Revealing what I know from the last period of his life to outsiders would not in his time be considered ok, yet he would probably support this letter, because of how deadly and destructive Eckankar has become today to those who join its ranks. 

In Twitchell’s final days he wanted to provide a linkage to those he cared for through his writings, teachings and published materials, to guide these person’s continued self discovery after his death. I was around in the early 60s before the formation of Paul’s scientology based teaching which he shared as a contributor with the Dianetics founder as an extension of teachings above level OT8.

Despite what onlookers attempt to point out, Paul was no backwoods ignoramous hick as has been inferred copiously across the www. Twitchell was reasonably educated with college study requiring ability to read and write in English understandably. He plazerized much of his esoteric writings which was common practice during his lifetime because there was no internet available, not even the most basic copy machines to plazerize texts from; thus essentially the man was winging it to build an image of himself as a spiritual adept when actually he was just a caring beginner trying to free people from traditionalists holding a majority of people down, with no promise of them ever breaking out of limiting culturally biased paradgyms.

On appearance this may appear very noble of Twitchell but in his frantic attempt to break out, he has caused a lot of damage because he suggested and taught many things which are just not possible for people to achieve; so they stretch themselves dangerously thin right by the edge just shy of falling off and from my experience, many people did, and do today, from an even further distortion by eckankar to cover up the founder’s shady past, subsequently a need on Eckanka’s part to bring this tomfoolery forward to still dupe people today into thinking their teachings are legitimate but really just based on a hodgepodge of disassociative ideas which fractures people’s peace of mind and stability, in relationships and day to day interaction, with the world.

The practice during the 1940s through 70s was legitimate respected well known writers who lacked sophistication in philosophical matters, copied full sections of  others people’s books authored elsewhere because getting to a library and forming their own ideas was time consuming. On top of that photo copying was reserved to those with access to very primitive machines. I know this as one of my friend’s parents owned and ran an offset press. We observed crap copy machines operating there sitting broken, with repair requiring qualified technicians traveling far to fix temperamental devices.

Initially Twitchell considered continuing on through an ongoing distribution camp after he died to propagate his home brewed teachings for ongoing support of those he had taught after demise, yet Hubbard had a hand in Twitchell’s pie. In reality Twitchell’s writings were extensions of both authors combined. Moreover Twitchell became seriously ill therefore not picking a replacement for his advanced scientology courses he constructed from various new thought sources, and offering them to the public. In late 1960 and early 1970 Paul gave a group of us eleven a request to disperse these teachings he had devised outside our early eckankar camp created initially with Hubbard’s hand. 

Nevertheless again no suitable replacement was chosen before Twitchell died to carry out his joint spiritual venture. Twitchell’s thought was he did not want these writings up for grabs and an interpretation as high profit return by his overly cash conscious wife, and her manipulative  female cronies, directed to make as much cash as possible off his writings. Twitchell’s wife was frantic about making her millions of dollars regardless of the consequences this would have as damage onto other people. In Twitchell’s wife’s estimation she was footing the bill for Paul’s pseudo esoteric lifestyle and getting no large monetary returns from this. 

Later Twitchell’s wife made her millions of dollars off a vitamin company Twitchell co-founded, with a well known nutritionist. When Twitchell died his wife and her unscrupeoulous cronies spun a web of tall mystic tales, to keep their eckankar money maker going, and choosing Twitchell’s wife’s lover, as a master replacement, who built a formidable cash machine that made millions of dollars which he pocketed, to run a musical jazz band he formed, and being privately jetted across the United States, as the replacement’s bad health and addiction crept up on him in the late 1970s, to force him into retirement, just.

Compounding this pseudo spiritual fiasco evolving as a menace to society for over 50 years in duration, is another totally outlandish phenomena which acted to spur on the continuation of this fraudulent spiritual camp to assault the public. 

If you examine carefully handwriting by Paul’s hand scribbled onto a poster given to Twitchell’s wife’s lover, who became the next eckankar master; knowing explicitly Twitchell’s personal handwriting script style, you will note that it is excessively feeble and faulty in placement onto the poster, caused by a shaky hand and excessive fatigue based on heart failure. 

Later on Twitchell’s replacement as eckankar master, and his wife’s lover, would claim this hand written script written onto the poster given to him and displayed at the eckankar headquarters in Menlo Park California at one time; was in fact this new eckankar replacment master’s, spiritual name. 

The hand written script written onto the poster was obviously scribbled mindlessly and haphazardly onto it which Twitchell’s wife’s female pseudo spiritual accomplices used in part later on to prove that this new master brought forward a continuation to carry Twitchell and Hubbards cash making creation. On close examination by those familiar with Twitchell’s  handwriting, these people were not fooled and left in a concerned hurry.

This fabrication as a fake eckankar camp continuation giving out Twitchell’s captured writings, re-edited, censored, with most never published, has continued to this day, through the activities of flimsy maladjusted females pushed into action by totally fake eckankar masters, never meant to carry on Twitchell’s creation.  With absolutely nobody in the know, speaking out to reveal a flagrant violation of Paul’s final wishes carried out in secret by loyal supporters of his, who knew where he was coming from and tried to propagate what they initially, thought were genuine spiritual teachings.  

New Thought Teachings these designated persons believed they would disperse in a respectful manner to benefit those in need. Again, it may appear that I have supported this fiasco, or support it today. On the contrary it was just a small matter of time before Twitchells fold on the run knew that any association with Twitchell would lead back to Hubbard who was wanted on numerous continents for all kinds of misdeeds

There you have it in a nutshell. Each designated Twitchell propagation driver promised they would never tell this inside information to any one, but eckankar has just gone way too far, with no one putting them in check as has happened in the past with scientology, which eckankar is an extension of, regardless of eckankar refusing to admit this. 

Thus the public is getting severely hurt and damage is being done to innocent people maliciously; which goes beyond what is right or deserved by sincere spiritual seekers, just out there seeking truth. If you have it in your self pass this information on for consideration, to any who would benefit with these hidden revelations. 

If you need support and are a current or past eckankar member seek it through Twitchell’s original contacts who are based in religious science and new thought; as he was a member himself in a wide array of those teachings, which he belonged to, which included Asian religious teachings. 

However, I am not talking about seeking support from scientology, although that is your business. There is still a connection with very genuine caring sincere people who will help you to find your way to stability beyond any deception, with those groups other than scientology, that Twitchell belonged to, and studied with. Yet despite the offered support by these groups I am refering to you have to know what is best for yourself, and what does not feel right, through any association with any person or group. Go with your gut and you will never be let down. New Thought is based on traditional world religions which have shown integrity in their support of all people in need regardless of class, sexual orientation or monetary condition. Seek them out, they really care.

 

 

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Paul Twitchell Never Intended That Eckankar Continue Past His Death

AUTHOR: Meyer - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, September 28, 2019
  • I want to comment on eckankar because I notice on this website nobody has pointed out Twitchell never intended to continue his made up religion past his death. 

 

  • Eckankar is a fraudulent sham based on observations from my own personal experience with its henchmen trying to live off the backs of those who did in some way benefit initially from ideas devised in part by Paul Twitchell. 

Don’t misinterpret my intention though of presenting this text to you. Twitchell’s ideas were intriguing but in my own case as I discovered later on influenced me to the edge of disaster because they were not based on sound principles governing astute behavior.

I am writing this perhaps as the only person alive who can accurately describe last wishes and days of Paul Twitchell. Revealing what I know from the last period of his life to outsiders would not in his time be considered ok, yet he would probably support this letter, because of how deadly and destructive Eckankar has become today to those who join its ranks. 

In Twitchell’s final days he wanted to provide a linkage to those he cared for through his writings, teachings and published materials, to guide these person’s continued self discovery after his death. I was around in the early 60s before the formation of Paul’s scientology based teaching which he shared as a contributor with the Dianetics founder as an extension of teachings above level OT8.

Despite what onlookers attempt to point out, Paul was no backwoods ignoramous hick as has been inferred copiously across the www. Twitchell was reasonably educated with college study requiring ability to read and write in English understandably.

He plazerized much of his esoteric writings which was common practice during his lifetime because there was no internet available, not even the most basic copy machines to plazerize texts from; thus essentially the man was winging it to build an image of himself as a spiritual adept when actually he was just a caring beginner trying to free people from traditionalists holding a majority of people down, with no promise of them ever breaking out of limiting culturally biased paradgyms.

On appearance this may appear very noble of Twitchell but in his frantic attempt to break out, he has caused a lot of damage because he suggested and taught many things which are just not possible for people to achieve; so they stretch themselves dangerously thin right by the edge just shy of falling off and from my experience, many people did, and do today, from an even further distortion by eckankar to cover up the founder’s shady past, subsequently a need on Eckanka’s part to bring this tomfoolery forward to still dupe people today into thinking their teachings are legitimate but really just based on a hodgepodge of disassociative ideas which fractures people’s peace of mind and stability, in relationships and day to day interaction, with the world.

The practice during the 1940s through 70s was legitimate respected well known writers who lacked sophistication in philosophical matters, copied full sections of  others people’s books authored elsewhere because getting to a library and forming their own ideas was time consuming. On top of that photo copying was reserved to those with access to very primitive machines. I know this as one of my friend’s parents owned and ran an offset press. We observed crap copy machines operating there sitting broken, with repair requiring qualified technicians traveling far to fix temperamental devices.

Initially Twitchell considered continuing on through an ongoing distribution camp after he died to propagate his home brewed teachings for ongoing support of those he had taught after demise, yet Hubbard had a hand in Twitchell’s pie. In reality Twitchell’s writings were extensions of both authors combined.

Moreover Twitchell became seriously ill therefore not picking a replacement for his advanced scientology courses he constructed from various new thought sources, and offering them to the public. In late 1960 and early 1970 Paul gave a group of us eleven a request to disperse these teachings he had devised outside our early eckankar camp created initially with Hubbard’s hand. 

Nevertheless again no suitable replacement was chosen before Twitchell died to carry out his joint spiritual venture. Twitchell’s thought was he did not want these writings up for grabs and an interpretation as high profit return by his overly cash conscious wife, and her manipulative  female cronies, directed to make as much cash as possible off his writings.

Twitchell’s wife was frantic about making her millions of dollars regardless of the consequences this would have as damage onto other people. In Twitchell’s wife’s estimation she was footing the bill for Paul’s pseudo esoteric lifestyle and getting no large monetary returns from this. 

Later Twitchell’s wife made her millions of dollars off a vitamin company Twitchell co-founded, with a well known nutritionist. When Twitchell died his wife and her unscrupeoulous cronies spun a web of tall mystic tales, to keep their eckankar money maker going, and choosing Twitchell’s wife’s lover, as a master replacement, who built a formidable cash machine that made millions of dollars which he pocketed, to run a musical jazz band he formed, and being privately jetted across the United States, as the replacement’s bad health and addiction crept up on him in the late 1970s, to force him into retirement, just.

Compounding this pseudo spiritual fiasco evolving as a menace to society for over 50 years in duration, is another totally outlandish phenomena which acted to spur on the continuation of this fraudulent spiritual camp to assault the public. 

If you examine carefully handwriting by Paul’s hand scribbled onto a poster given to Twitchell’s wife’s lover, who became the next eckankar master; knowing explicitly Twitchell’s personal handwriting script style, you will note that it is excessively feeble and faulty in placement onto the poster, caused by a shaky hand and excessive fatigue based on heart failure. 

Later on Twitchell’s replacement as eckankar master, and his wife’s lover, would claim this hand written script written onto the poster given to him and displayed at the eckankar headquarters in Menlo Park California at one time; was in fact this new eckankar replacment master’s, spiritual name. 

The hand written script written onto the poster was obviously scribbled mindlessly and haphazardly onto it which Twitchell’s wife’s female pseudo spiritual accomplices used in part later on to prove that this new master brought forward a continuation to carry Twitchell and Hubbards cash making creation. On close examination by those familiar with Twitchell’s  handwriting, these people were not fooled and left in a concerned hurry.

This fabrication as a fake eckankar camp continuation giving out Twitchell’s captured writings, re-edited, censored, with most never published, has continued to this day, through the activities of flimsy maladjusted females pushed into action by totally fake eckankar masters, never meant to carry on Twitchell’s creation.  With absolutely nobody in the know, speaking out to reveal a flagrant violation of Paul’s final wishes carried out in secret by loyal supporters of his, who knew where he was coming from and tried to propagate what they initially, thought were genuine spiritual teachings.  

New Thought Teachings these designated persons believed they would disperse in a respectful manner to benefit those in need. Again, it may appear that I have supported this fiasco, or support it today. On the contrary it was just a small matter of time before Twitchells fold on the run knew that any association with Twitchell would lead back to Hubbard who was wanted on numerous continents for all kinds of misdeeds

There you have it in a nutshell. Each designated Twitchell propagation driver promised they would never tell this inside information to any one, but eckankar has just gone way too far, with no one putting them in check as has happened in the past with scientology, which eckankar is an extension of, regardless of eckankar refusing to admit this. 

Thus the public is getting severely hurt and damage is being done to innocent people maliciously; which goes beyond what is right or deserved by sincere spiritual seekers, just out there seeking truth. If you have it in your self pass this information on for consideration, to any who would benefit with these hidden revelations. 

If you need support and are a current or past eckankar member seek it through Twitchell’s original contacts who are based in religious science and new thought; as he was a member himself in a wide array of those teachings, which he belonged to, which included Asian religious teachings. 

However, I am not talking about seeking support from scientology, although that is your business. There is still a connection with very genuine caring sincere people who will help you to find your way to stability beyond any deception, with those groups other than scientology, that Twitchell belonged to, and studied with.

Yet despite the offered support by these groups I am refering to you have to know what is best for yourself, and what does not feel right, through any association with any person or group. Go with your gut and you will never be let down. New Thought is based on traditional world religions which have shown integrity in their support of all people in need regardless of class, sexual orientation or monetary condition. Seek them out, they really care.

 

 

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You cannot just roll over and play dead or do nothing

AUTHOR: Colby - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, November 23, 2018

No, current religions originating in the past were not all just made up. Some religious facility before these became organized started out as actual pious practices by singluar genuine shamanistic persons, with their practices taken over by those knowing masses could be herded as a medium political tool of control thus to affect, a larger community.

What differs though with the ace modern made up religions over the past 70 years is they have been masterminded by actual experienced personages familiar with quantitative sciences. The aim being to get member dogs to salivate against their wills, so true of; eckankar and somewhat with scientology although, it’s more in your face there being, borderline ethical, yet, created by naval intelligence groomed, L. Ron Hubbard and Paul Twitchell. Not to mention the current master familiar with military Gov Intel having served under, its umbrella overseas.

Thus for eckankar it just is not good enough to control masses of people in an overt rudimentary manipulative scheme to, fill personal coffers with locally acquired cash put into pockets full, of screaming piles of dosh. 

No, BIG cash strongboxes have become necessary as a growing twisted neurosis carried out and, held clandestinely on every piece of land due to, basic herding just not satisfying the truly creative; expanding an effort to  implant commands in eckankar members all the way to God and past that for just manipulations sake, not to mention the happy monetary returns for its world investors.

Why is it that the eckankar membership knows nothing about the religions early days before it became well established by its scientology founder? Why hasn’t its current master told the membership about its early days when members were drugged, experimented upon and, then dropped off in the wild to dry out with, cottonmouth and paranoided thoughts now present. With instructions for the newly implanted members to carry out unthinkable acts under the sanction of people no one, had the power to mess with? Oops!

Eckankar as a monetary mainstay ultimate control blanket facility has sought manipulation of its members’ consciousness and soul on ever higher levels of supposed spirituality masked, in the guise of spiritual freedom yet, those members in current actuality are in fact just really short leashed to bark platitudes from; their well oiled conditiong while they talk to God, so knowledgeable insider pundits say.

Twitchell although he was a bit of a rouge still had some integrity because of his devising what he considered shortcuts to personal consciousness evolution for everyone yet not fathoming the full scope of his scientology involvement in the creation of something that was moved beyond his control, even legally as, having any ownership of eckankar at all.

Darwin Gross’s mad sexual pogo stick doused the last vestige of insight he had to thus, transform eckankar into a legitimate spiritual medium which, ultimately hung him out to dry and enabled a final ultimate comadeering of Twitchell’s expedient methodology to, be used by an outside agency which now, has humanity by the family jewels all the way up into heaven with, backed technological resources to match and seal the robotic deal.

Thank You for sharing FagA*sLil but, you don’t seem to know what you are dealing with here. Religious exploitation as you pointedly showed with great insight is by and large packaged and used to control the masses even in herding them into political use but, there is behind most major religions an innocence that protects the naive allowing them to recover even in cases such as the 1980’s “christian oriented”-Bakers exploits for instance who cleaned their followers out monetarily but, survivors recovered despite this because of their own true genuine personal goodness attracting extraneous help and recovery to them by empathetically concerned citizens.

However, in scientology hybrid eckankar’s case the now deceased 8th. initiates of Eckankar, Patty Simpson and Mildred Moore at early dates of organization creation knew that, Twitchell had made Eckankar up but, Twitchell’s rougish, be your own man integrity somehow maintained an unusual aura of genuine spirituality amongst his followers which, was not carried forward at his death through his replacement; although there lingered, Twitchell’s charisma for another ten years past demise.

Thus what you have now in current eckankar is just guts and engine originating scientology constructed paradigm masterminded by Hubbard and his stooge Twitchell that, can only run on its manipulative mind control carried out by black and white understanding fumes orchestrated by, an outside control of its members minds and actions yet, spinning a still lucrative living for hidden dubious global investors to the former scientology creation. 

Consequently in the end result Eckankar is just in fact hybrid scientology clandetantely created by its contributors intent on implemting a new world run from the inside of peoples minds to the outside as guaranteed specific activity controlled by a mob of manipulative investors. Thereby, it is not just as simple as you may imply sweety to just roll over and, play dead for numerous current and former damaged eckankar members.

 If you teach eckankar scientology cloned thugs through a total personal legal inaction against them that, what they are doing to people is ok via, just passively giving up and laughing off what trained experienced mobsters have done to anyone as a whoopie!, “I just got done in, silly me”, then subsequently these sinister agents of sophisticated mind control will eventually; do you in also and quite frankly by the naive tone set out in your comment to me you will not even know you are no longer, you. 

Sweety, these people have nothing to do with any religion, they are a new breed of pseudo religious mind minders whose shots are being called for them from far away. Smell the coffee and welcome to the new world order. I hope you survive it to savor any last individuality you may still have. Eckankar needs to be closed down permanently before we, enter a fourth Reich.

P.S. thank you for your switched on insight but, this eckankar situation now present  is much worse than any concise explanation by you rendered as relief to others. Leah Remini for instance has supposedly exposed faults associated with scientology and JW culture yet, eckankar as a possible scientology member creation, needs to be addressed in a similar fashion. Shutting people up is not the way to go.

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Circle of Life: Rolling over and playing dead or doing absolutely nothing is not the way to go.

AUTHOR: Colby - (United States)

POSTED: Friday, November 23, 2018

No, current religions originating in the past were not all just made up. Some religious facility before these became organized started out as actual pious practices by singluar genuine shamanistic persons, with their practices taken over by those knowing masses could be herded as a medium political tool of control thus to affect, a larger community.

What differs though with the ace modern made up religions over the past 70 years is they have been masterminded by actual experienced personages familiar with quantitative sciences. The aim being to get member dogs to salivate against their wills, so true of; eckankar and somewhat with scientology although, it’s more in your face there being, borderline ethical, yet, created by naval intelligence groomed, L. Ron Hubbard and Paul Twitchell. Not to mention the current master familiar with military Gov Intel having served under, its umbrella overseas.

Thus for eckankar it just is not good enough to control masses of people in an overt rudimentary manipulative scheme to, fill personal coffers with locally acquired cash put into pockets full, of screaming piles of dosh. 

No, BIG cash strongboxes have become necessary as a growing twisted neurosis carried out and, held clandestinely on every piece of land due to, basic herding just not satisfying the truly creative; expanding an effort to  implant commands in eckankar members all the way to God and past that for just manipulations sake, not to mention the happy monetary returns for its world investors.

Why is it that the eckankar membership knows nothing about the religions early days before it became well established by its scientology founder? Why hasn’t its current master told the membership about its early days when members were drugged, experimented upon and, then dropped off in the wild to dry out with, cottonmouth and paranoided thoughts now present. With instructions for the newly implanted members to carry out unthinkable acts under the sanction of people no one, had the power to mess with? Oops!

Eckankar as a monetary mainstay ultimate control blanket facility has sought manipulation of its members’ consciousness and soul on ever higher levels of supposed spirituality masked, in the guise of spiritual freedom yet, those members in current actuality are in fact just really short leashed to bark platitudes from; their well oiled conditiong while they talk to God, so knowledgeable insider pundits say.

Twitchell although he was a bit of a rouge still had some integrity because of his devising what he considered shortcuts to personal consciousness evolution for everyone yet not fathoming the full scope of his scientology involvement in the creation of something that was moved beyond his control, even legally as, having any ownership of eckankar at all.

Darwin Gross’s mad sexual pogo stick doused the last vestige of insight he had to thus, transform eckankar into a legitimate spiritual medium which, ultimately hung him out to dry and enabled a final ultimate comadeering of Twitchell’s expedient methodology to, be used by an outside agency which now, has humanity by the family jewels all the way up into heaven with, backed technological resources to match and seal the robotic deal.

Thank You for sharing FagA*sLil but, you don’t seem to know what you are dealing with here. Religious exploitation as you pointedly showed with great insight is by and large packaged and used to control the masses even in herding them into political use but, there is behind most major religions an innocence that protects the naive allowing them to recover even in cases such as the 1980’s “christian oriented”-Bakers exploits for instance who cleaned their followers out monetarily but, survivors recovered despite this because of their own true genuine personal goodness attracting extraneous help and recovery to them by empathetically concerned citizens.

However, in scientology hybrid eckankar’s case the now deceased 8th. initiates of Eckankar, Patty Simpson and Mildred Moore at early dates of organization creation knew that, Twitchell had made Eckankar up but, Twitchell’s rougish, be your own man integrity somehow maintained an unusual aura of genuine spirituality amongst his followers which, was not carried forward at his death through his replacement; although there lingered, Twitchell’s charisma for another ten years past demise.

Thus what you have now in current eckankar is just guts and engine originating scientology constructed paradigm masterminded by Hubbard and his stooge Twitchell that, can only run on its manipulative mind control carried out by black and white understanding fumes orchestrated by, an outside control of its members minds and actions yet, spinning a still lucrative living for hidden dubious global investors to the former scientology creation. 

Consequently in the end result Eckankar is just in fact hybrid scientology clandetantely created by its contributors intent on implemting a new world run from the inside of peoples minds to the outside as guaranteed specific activity controlled by a mob of manipulative investors. Thereby, it is not just as simple as you may imply sweety to just roll over and, play dead for numerous current and former damaged eckankar members.

If you teach eckankar scientology cloned thugs through a total personal legal inaction against them that, what they are doing to people is ok via, just passively giving up and laughing off what trained experienced mobsters have done to anyone as a whoopie!, “I just got done in, silly me”, then subsequently these sinister agents of sophisticated mind control will eventually; do you in also and quite frankly by the naive tone set out in your comment to me you will not even know you are no longer, you. 

Sweety, these people have nothing to do with any religion, they are a new breed of pseudo religious mind minders whose shots are being called for them from far away. Smell the coffee and welcome to the new world order. I hope you survive it to savor any last individuality you may still have. Eckankar needs to be closed down permanently before we, enter a fourth Reich.

P.S. thank you for your switched on insight but, this eckankar situation now present  is much worse than any concise explanation by you rendered as relief to others. Leah Remini for instance has supposedly exposed faults associated with scientology and JW culture yet, eckankar as a possible scientology member creation, needs to be addressed in a similar fashion. Shutting people up is not the way to go.

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They are all made up..

AUTHOR: Jen - (United States)

POSTED: Monday, November 05, 2018

Sweetheart, all of them are made up. Creasted by people, for people. If you choose to believe whole heartedly in something, then you must take what you get out of it. You put your faith in the people who run it. It is a business like any other with people at the top profiting from it. If you believe in this religion/God, it shouldn't cost you anyting. If you put money into a person claiming to represent such religion/God, then you are taking a risk like anyone else.

Don't pay for faith & religion...its free. You got screwed by people. People have been getting screwed by other people in any religion since people started charging for it. Next time remember if you choose to pay for something that doesn't cost anything, then the risk is on you and you are to blame for the fall. Common sense wants to know why would you give your hard earned money to strangers on the street just because they say they represent your faith? Their faith isn't any different than yours. Start your own religion like so many people before you have. Tweak it to fit you way of thinking like so many before you. Start charging people to agree with you and maybe some day there will be someone here complaining about you.

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