Esbex - HB Products Unlimited Big Promises, Crappy Overpriced Products, Crappy Business Program ripoff Orem Utah

Your response was that we were not members since 2002. You are correct. As I recall, we gave up and cut our losses. Regardless, the date or length of membership doesn't change the results.

In addition, you asked why we waited five years. The answer is simple: 1) we weren't aware this forum existed; was it around five years ago? I stumbled on it by accident. 2) Two babies. 3) We did file a complaint with the NY state attorney generals office, but didn't follow up because of time constraints, and since I am now a full time medical student in addition to being a parent of four, priorities must be set.

Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that your sales representative who sold us the initial program "promised" us we would make our money back in three months. We were promised top quality products. We were promised great training and support.

None of those were true. As for the $100/month; as I recall, we paid $20 for access to the poor quality products on HBUnlimited, $40 for monthly coaching/website, another $40?? for the bank account that you required us to set up for taking credit cards. Which, by the way, we never used.

Not once. We never sold one product off the website, despite advertising locally. In addition, by the time products were advertised locally, they were sold out from the warehouse, and again, my purchase cost was higher than the prices products were selling for on Ebay. All in all, we easily spent over $10000 in investments towards this scheme, when you take into account our advertising, website fees, coaching/monthly fees, etc. In addition, I spent countless hours trying to work the system to no avail. What is your time worth?

Incidentally, one of our favorite coaches, I think number 3 or 4, recently contacted us through our still active ebay account. They did not have a positive experience as an employee.

I give you a challenge. If you truly believe your program has changed and is now a much stronger, more valid program, give us the updated program and we'll try it again. If we can't make it go, give us a refund. And we can keep meticulous records of our activities to insure we are following your program to the letter. Should you prove to be correct, I will come on this forum and update the information I've written.

In addition, as a former television journalist, I am sure I can contact local media to cover this challenge.

Our home telephone number has not changed since 2002. You should still have it on file.

Vaughn & Wanda

Vaughn and Wanda,

I am sorry that you were not satisfied with our program. You canceled your membership with HB Products back in 2002. 5 years our program has changed a lot. Why did you wait 5 years to write something, the report shows that it was created on 6/17/2007. Our records indicate that you spent just under $8,000 not the reported $10,000.00 The monthly membership fees you paid to HB Products were only $20.00/month not the reported $100.00.

Our products are very competitive on eBay and other online aution sites.

Thank you,
Kathleen
HB Products Unlimited, Inc.