Hon. Christopher F. Droney-Ocwen Hon. Christopher F. Droney/Ocwen. Victims of Ocwen are now being further victimized by our own judicial system. How to wake up a Sleeping Judge in one easy step Hartford Connecticut

First off, $154K salary is peanuts in Connecticut for someone with experience and an advanced education. I work for a law firm in Connecticut. Our attorneys bill out at between $350 and $660 dollars an hour and they all put in more than 40 hour work weeks. Everything here is very very expensive. Add to that the fact that a judge has not only on the job experience (you don't come out of law school and poof-you become a judge) but also an extra 3-years of education. All this for $154,000 a year!

Robyn, I can agree with you that Bill Clinton was, and still is bad news. There is a recent article in the NY Times about Clinton's involvement with a Kazakhstan Miner turned owner of Lionsgate Films, turned Miner again who helped the Clinton's not only purchase their Chapaqua, New York estate for $10million. (Wish you would take the Clintons back in Arkansas!) but also donated $31million towards Hillary's presidential campaign. The so-called film-maker/miner is allegedly "Canadian" with roots in Kazakhstan. HMMM?

As to judges making law. I'm not sure you understand our Constitution fully. It has become a scary process with all of the lobbyists, but our legislative bodies write the laws. The President signs them into law. And our Courts interpret the law and are supposed to administer the practical application of the law by way of their decisions. Unfortunately, it is not a perfect science, there are jury's, the press (who have the power to really mess things up - Look at the OJ Simpson trials) and lawyers. If a case has lop-sided representation with one stellar attorney and one not so exceptional attorney, the Judge will only be able to work with the representation of the facts presented.

I have not gone to Pacer on this case. But I am familiar with Ocwen (new co backwards) - It is a group of attorneys who "pick up" low priced properties from desperate sellers/homeowners. These attorneys then turn around and sell the properties for fun and profit. Are you inferring that this Judge is going out of his way to help Ocwen?

Me, I came here looking for possible negative information about a mortgage company before I become involved with them. Every search I put in brings up stuff about WalMart, District Court Judges, but not the company I am looking for.

First off, $154K salary is peanuts in Connecticut for someone with experience and an advanced education. I work for a law firm in Connecticut. Our attorneys bill out at between $350 and $660 dollars an hour and they all put in more than 40 hour work weeks. Everything here is very very expensive. Add to that the fact that a judge has not only on the job experience (you don't come out of law school and poof-you become a judge) but also an extra 3-years of education. All this for $154,000 a year!

Robyn, I can agree with you that Bill Clinton was, and still is bad news. There is a recent article in the NY Times about Clinton's involvement with a Kazakhstan Miner turned owner of Lionsgate Films, turned Miner again who helped the Clinton's not only purchase their Chapaqua, New York estate for $10million. (Wish you would take the Clintons back in Arkansas!) but also donated $31million towards Hillary's presidential campaign. The so-called film-maker/miner is allegedly "Canadian" with roots in Kazakhstan. HMMM?

As to judges making law. I'm not sure you understand our Constitution fully. It has become a scary process with all of the lobbyists, but our legislative bodies write the laws. The President signs them into law. And our Courts interpret the law and are supposed to administer the practical application of the law by way of their decisions. Unfortunately, it is not a perfect science, there are jury's, the press (who have the power to really mess things up - Look at the OJ Simpson trials) and lawyers. If a case has lop-sided representation with one stellar attorney and one not so exceptional attorney, the Judge will only be able to work with the representation of the facts presented.

I have not gone to Pacer on this case. But I am familiar with Ocwen (new co backwards) - It is a group of attorneys who "pick up" low priced properties from desperate sellers/homeowners. These attorneys then turn around and sell the properties for fun and profit. Are you inferring that this Judge is going out of his way to help Ocwen?

Me, I came here looking for possible negative information about a mortgage company before I become involved with them. Every search I put in brings up stuff about WalMart, District Court Judges, but not the company I am looking for.

First off, $154K salary is peanuts in Connecticut for someone with experience and an advanced education. I work for a law firm in Connecticut. Our attorneys bill out at between $350 and $660 dollars an hour and they all put in more than 40 hour work weeks. Everything here is very very expensive. Add to that the fact that a judge has not only on the job experience (you don't come out of law school and poof-you become a judge) but also an extra 3-years of education. All this for $154,000 a year!

Robyn, I can agree with you that Bill Clinton was, and still is bad news. There is a recent article in the NY Times about Clinton's involvement with a Kazakhstan Miner turned owner of Lionsgate Films, turned Miner again who helped the Clinton's not only purchase their Chapaqua, New York estate for $10million. (Wish you would take the Clintons back in Arkansas!) but also donated $31million towards Hillary's presidential campaign. The so-called film-maker/miner is allegedly "Canadian" with roots in Kazakhstan. HMMM?

As to judges making law. I'm not sure you understand our Constitution fully. It has become a scary process with all of the lobbyists, but our legislative bodies write the laws. The President signs them into law. And our Courts interpret the law and are supposed to administer the practical application of the law by way of their decisions. Unfortunately, it is not a perfect science, there are jury's, the press (who have the power to really mess things up - Look at the OJ Simpson trials) and lawyers. If a case has lop-sided representation with one stellar attorney and one not so exceptional attorney, the Judge will only be able to work with the representation of the facts presented.

I have not gone to Pacer on this case. But I am familiar with Ocwen (new co backwards) - It is a group of attorneys who "pick up" low priced properties from desperate sellers/homeowners. These attorneys then turn around and sell the properties for fun and profit. Are you inferring that this Judge is going out of his way to help Ocwen?

Me, I came here looking for possible negative information about a mortgage company before I become involved with them. Every search I put in brings up stuff about WalMart, District Court Judges, but not the company I am looking for.

David,

Your first response just made you look like a fool. Your second response makes you look like a desperate fool. So, might I ask YOU what YOUR agenda is? What is YOUR huge interest in seeing that this case remains under wraps and stagnant? What are the motives of you and your several other people? Are you a victim of Ocwen yourself or just a troll?

I find it interesting that you have so many objections to the use of the word God in any public venue. A judges oath of office ends with the words so help me God. Immediately after uttering these words, many judges act as if they had never heard the word and never want to hear it again. It is far more acceptable in our society today to openly swear than it is to invoke God. Something seems not right about this.

Fifteen months ago, the human element was invoked. It was, is, and remains unresponsive. Ocwen already seemed to have dibs on the devil. So, I invoke God. It seems to somehow level the playing field.

I plead guilty to not always running with the brainwashed pack and being ever and always politically correct. Where would this country be without God? He is very much present in our founding documents. In God We Trust is printed still on our money. I will trust your commitment to removing God entirely from our society when I see you throw all your cash into the garbage. Otherwise, you only pay lip service to your ideals.

However, keep chipping and yammering away. You objectors will eventually get Him removed from everywhere and everything. He will be missed.

You are also operating from the erroneous premise of predatory lending. This is NOT a predatory lending issue, but a mortgage servicing issue. Ocwen does not originate loans, but purchases already existing loans from the originating lenders. Then it proceeds to turn good loans into past due loans, facilitating the loading of fees.

Mortgage servicers are fee-based companies. Try doing research into THIS issue; believe me, they are two different things entirely. One can have a wonderful loan originator for years and then be sold to Ocwen and become a victim of the servicing scam at that point.

This is a case of borrowers in bondage as opposed to willingly borrowing from this institution. I know of no one who has signed an original loan document with Ocwen. (Who would?) These borrowers are in bondage because they have no say in where their loan will be sold. The original lender makes that decision for them. Poof! We have sold/transferred your account to Ocwen. Deal with it. And that is where the trouble begins. Check it out.

As for your ignorant allegations that I am damaging or attempting to damage this suit, I just have to laugh. This suit is already absolutely dead in the water. One cannot damage what is already broken. The hope here is to get it FIXED. The question now is: is it repairable? But for those who have lost their homes during the course of this suit, the question is moot, isnt it?

You threaten with the possible cost of a change of venue. Do you think the last fifteen months have cost Mr. Hanson absolutely nothing? Court actions cost money as long as they are ongoing. Do you understand war of attrition? A change of venue may be costly, but would it in the long run be as costly as this running of the clock that is being engaged in now? Use your common sense.

Motions for more time are still being granted to Ocwen, so every PACER report that goes up shows the imbalance in this case more and more. Not even you can argue with the court records as they are presented. Have you looked at the actual records of the suit so that you can feel absolutely confident in your allegations that I am doing something to harm it? (Correction: Judge Droney did not directly approve the motion to extend time for Ocwen as I incorrectly posted last night. Magistrate Judge Garfinkel who takes care of discovery related matters did that. Sorry for the error. I am still assuming that Judge Droney has to approve all such decisions made by his deputized help, so he is not off the hook with me.)

I certainly do hope that someone has pointed out this commentary to Judge Droney. I am sure that his former associates (for the defendants) involved in this case have made sure that he has seen it. Being in any public office and in the public eye always carries the risk of criticism. I am sure that Judge Droney has been criticized before and may well be again. It is an inconvenient side effect of any public office.

Judge Droney accepted this judicial appointment willingly. With his oath of office he accepted the responsibility for undertakings of the court. I expect to see him live up to those responsibilities. If he is not prepared to do that, then he can step aside, no hard feelings.

I see that I have been both tried and convicted in the court of David in Westbury, New York! Your case is weak because I can produce source documentation for all that is presented as fact and the rest is my own opinion formed from watching this case and listening to the victims own stories.

No pinhead & group from New York is going to interfere with my First Amendment guarantee of free speech. As I told you once, feel free to pass this commentary by. That is your right and you should have exercised it before making a total a*s out of yourself. Exercise some self-control in these matters.

But since David of Westbury, New York was unable to resist trying Robin of Waldron, AR and has announced to the world his one-man (not biased, of course) finding of complete and total guilt in the matter of libel and being a right wing Christian, I suppose there is nothing to be done now but await my summons and/or arrest warrant. (What is the penalty for being a juvenile libelous right wing Christian martyr anyway?)

Gee, that will be a real imposition in my life, but I think I can deal with it. I'll just have to make a lot of noise about it.

There is nothing that would bring me more pleasure right now than blowing this stinking miscarriage of justice right into the mainstream national press. In fact, it is a more than excellent idea. Thanks! If justice cannot be found in a courtroom in Hartford, Connecticut it might be all for the better to let the press try it. They at least have deadlines to meet and will MOVE.

Americans who are totally unaware of Ocwen would suddenly find Ocwen being served for breakfast, lunch, dinner and a midnight snack. I am not sure what an all Ocwen diet would do to the overall health of the country. I do not think it would have a positive effect. However, what sickens a person makes them stronger in their zeal to be rid of the sickening agent.

I do not think it would be too difficult to find Ocwen victims who might be eager to tell their stories. There is a lady named RaeAnn who recently posted. She has lost her home because the judge in this case chose to let Ocwen operate unchecked. Then there is Marlene, who seems to have been through an awful lot. Lets call Cynthia and Bob up, too. One by one, Ocwen victims can tell their story in a venue that would just eat it up. America loves a good scandal involving big money.

Of course, the press as a whole is a nosy animal and they might decide after hearing all these stories to investigate why this industry has operated with impunity and apparent immunity for so long.

The press has eyes and ears everywhere, up to and including, the White House. They have resources that I lack and would probably do a much better job of following the money trail. They would do a much better job of exposing this scandal than I can by myself.

The press will get hot on the heels of this thing and dig deep for the dirt. Exactly what is needed to put an end to this stinking industry once and for all as it exists today. And expose those who gain from it. And perhaps force it to operate in an honest manner.

I am not at all sure that these two posts attributed to David are written by the same person at all. The first post, while not addressing the true issues here, seems reasonably intelligent and is formatted in easy to read, intelligible paragraphs.

The second post is a mess of run-on sentences, misspelled words, and long paragraphs making it devilishly hard to read. The whole purpose of the second post seems aimed at slurring everybody and everything and making vague threats about this, that and the other thing. is your interest in that?

I am not sure what your mission is David; whatever it is you are failing to impress. Both of your posts seem aimed at ranting for the sake of ranting about all the perceived ills of all political parties and all the world at large. Seasoned with a healthy dose of veiled and overt threats. Whatever your point is, you are not presenting it clearly. Do I scare you for some reason? It seems terribly important to you that I take your opinion of me to heart.

The only thing I can tell for sure is your posts have nothing to do with this case. It has more to do with casting stones at the author and clouding the issue. You have missed me with all your lobs. Your insults mean nothing, because your commentary proves you to be a self-interested, mean-spirited person. I care diddly about your opinions, political or otherwise. Is there some reason I should?

Anyway, when you respond to tell me what my sentence is to be for being, in your mind, a juvenile libelous right wing Christian martyr, please let the first guy write it so it will be intelligible.

Bring it on, little man. I am ready and waiting for you. You have been an excellent boon to me on this issue and I thank you for all your help in this matter. Always remember that each coin has two sides and sometimes BS backfires.

Tell your interested parties to send in the next shill. You bore me.

A note for Cynthia: If you truly feel that your only option is to continue to play the game then you will remain a victim. I do not intend to sound mean about this, but there are options. Whether you choose to avail yourself of them is entirely your decision.

I see Robin is still telling people how to think.

So Judge Droney has contacts within his political party, so what? It's no big secret that federal judges get to be federal judges through their active involvement within, and work for, political parties. Further, nothing requires judges to become hermits after ascending to the bench. However, I don't see what that has to do with Ocwen, the Erby Brothers or any of Ocwen's board members; nor does this article mention any of these people. And I certainly don't put much creedence in this article, either, not only because the assertions made by the author are not backed up by multiple sources, but it refers to Judge Droney by a contraction of his first name which breaks one of the most basic rules of journalism and gives it a Cindy Adams quality. Thus, the article certainly doesn't prove he's been engaging in partisan politics on behalf of Ocwen. All I see is a lot of mountain making out of mole hills.

Mr. Hanson and his attorney had it right when he questioned Droney's ability to be fair and impartial because of his previous association with members of the Moss Codilis law firm. I don't know what the extent of that relationship was, or what evidence he had to support his motion for recusal, but if I were in Mr. Hanson's shoes, I would have done the same. Focusing on a sure, provable connection is more likely to sway the reasonable mind instead of engaging in conjecture and speculation based on a poorly-written newspaper article; not to mention providing ammunition for the other side. Moreover, from what I've seen on here and on PACER, they have handled the pre-trial stages of this case quite adeptly and I trust that they will continue to do so. I still think making complaints about Judge Droney's ability to be fair and impartial is only going to slow the process further from the glacier-like pace it's already moving at.

Additionally, a putative class action suit is but one means of eliminating the phenomenon of predatory lending. Change will come not because of mouthing platitudes about truth and justice in the legal system and Jonas Salk, but it will happen because people become advocates for their own cause and demand it. Many on here seem to rest their hopes on this suit as if it will be the answer to their problems. But even if Mr. Hanson wins, what does that change besides receiving a judgment against Ocwen? There are still other predatory lenders out there ready to take Ocwen's place and continue this cycle anew. This is why instead of just complaining and commisurating on this site (and I mean that as no slight to this site; it has helped show that none of Ocwen's customers are alone in this), everyone needs to do what Fairbanks' victims have done: write your congresspeople, your state and local representatives, explain your story to them and demand they introduce or support legislation which provides meaningful curbs on predatory lending and regulates businesses within the mortgage industry (on another post, I already provided the names of two DEMOCRATIC U.S. senators to contact who acted as a result of Fairbanks customers' e-mails and letters; they need to know that Fairbanks is not the exception, but the rule in mortgage servicing). Get out there and contact television, radio and newspaper media to explain what Ocwen has done to you. Many people still have no idea what predatory lending is and there may be other victims of Ocwen out there who don't have a computer or internet access; a report in the media may help correct this. Become actively involved with non-profit groups like ACORN, who have successfully helped lobby for strict predatory lending laws in North Carolina and Oakland, California, as well as staged public protests at the locations of known predatory lenders. There is so much that can be done and yet so much to do.

Hi Robin,

I follow with great interest your posts. I always find something in them that I can take home and keep for future reference.

I wanted to let you know that most people can see through posters like David. You don't even have to respond to them!

Did he have anything to say that would help the Ocwen victims? Nothing!!! He even goes so far as to say that Kweku's Lawyers took risks in filing certain motions...blah blah blah.....

Robin, it ocurred to me that, just like Ocwen has all those shills posting, well, doesn't it seem reasonable that since the discussion is now on the Honorable Judge, that someone would post in his behalf?

You know, the same old taktic of discrediting the vicims and supporters to make yourself look good?!?

Just look at what David is saying...only attacks on you, no kind word to Ocwen victims!
People are smart enough to see this, Robin.
You don't need to waste your time defending yourself. All you need to do is continue with your much appreciated support of the REAL Victims here. They know what you ARE saying and what you are NOT saying.
Just a thought.

Judge Droney has GRANTED Ocwen's motion for more time! Why am I NOT surprised?

Judge Droney was the judge who was entrusted with the decision of where Howdy Doody would live. Isn't that sweet? Howdy has a home now all due to Judge Droney's kind heart and judicial wisdom.

Too bad he does not see fit to worry so much about the living, breathing human beings involved in this case. Howdy has a home and people live in the streets. There is something badly wrong with this picture.

I have written a letter, but have decided NOT to send to Judge Droney. Why bother? I am sure it will go into the trash unread if I do.

I am going right to the top, to the Chief Justice of the Hartford courthouse. I urge all of you to do the same, Ocwen victim or not. Any person who cares at all about justice in our courts needs to be complaining about this.

If you have a story about what the last fifteen months have been like for you with Ocwen breathing down your neck, please tell this judge. Perhaps he will open his heart and listen.

If you have filed a Rip-Off Report already and do not want to rewrite the whole story print it out for mailing and enclose a short personal note that includes your name and address.

If you have no idea what to say, feel free to use this letter as a template.



Dateline

Your name
Your address
Your town, state, zip code

Honorable Robert N. Chatigny
Chief United States District Court Judge
450 Main Street
Hartford, Connecticut 06103

In re: Hanson v Ocwen
Civil Case #:02-CV-960

Dear Judge Chatigny,

Instead of setting an example of ethical leadership for the courtroom he oversees, Judge Christopher F. Droney's behavior has shaken the faith of the public and the foundation of the legal system. For the sake of confidence in the courts, it is time for Judge Droney to excuse himself from this case.

Please look into this matter as it as become a matter of grave concern.

Respectfully,

Your signature here



This double victimization has got to stop. Be a voice in this issue.

Judge Droney has GRANTED Ocwen's motion for more time! Why am I NOT surprised?

Judge Droney was the judge who was entrusted with the decision of where Howdy Doody would live. Isn't that sweet? Howdy has a home now all due to Judge Droney's kind heart and judicial wisdom.

Too bad he does not see fit to worry so much about the living, breathing human beings involved in this case. Howdy has a home and people live in the streets. There is something badly wrong with this picture.

I have written a letter, but have decided NOT to send to Judge Droney. Why bother? I am sure it will go into the trash unread if I do.

I am going right to the top, to the Chief Justice of the Hartford courthouse. I urge all of you to do the same, Ocwen victim or not. Any person who cares at all about justice in our courts needs to be complaining about this.

If you have a story about what the last fifteen months have been like for you with Ocwen breathing down your neck, please tell this judge. Perhaps he will open his heart and listen.

If you have filed a Rip-Off Report already and do not want to rewrite the whole story print it out for mailing and enclose a short personal note that includes your name and address.

If you have no idea what to say, feel free to use this letter as a template.



Dateline

Your name
Your address
Your town, state, zip code

Honorable Robert N. Chatigny
Chief United States District Court Judge
450 Main Street
Hartford, Connecticut 06103

In re: Hanson v Ocwen
Civil Case #:02-CV-960

Dear Judge Chatigny,

Instead of setting an example of ethical leadership for the courtroom he oversees, Judge Christopher F. Droney's behavior has shaken the faith of the public and the foundation of the legal system. For the sake of confidence in the courts, it is time for Judge Droney to excuse himself from this case.

Please look into this matter as it as become a matter of grave concern.

Respectfully,

Your signature here



This double victimization has got to stop. Be a voice in this issue.

Judge Droney has GRANTED Ocwen's motion for more time! Why am I NOT surprised?

Judge Droney was the judge who was entrusted with the decision of where Howdy Doody would live. Isn't that sweet? Howdy has a home now all due to Judge Droney's kind heart and judicial wisdom.

Too bad he does not see fit to worry so much about the living, breathing human beings involved in this case. Howdy has a home and people live in the streets. There is something badly wrong with this picture.

I have written a letter, but have decided NOT to send to Judge Droney. Why bother? I am sure it will go into the trash unread if I do.

I am going right to the top, to the Chief Justice of the Hartford courthouse. I urge all of you to do the same, Ocwen victim or not. Any person who cares at all about justice in our courts needs to be complaining about this.

If you have a story about what the last fifteen months have been like for you with Ocwen breathing down your neck, please tell this judge. Perhaps he will open his heart and listen.

If you have filed a Rip-Off Report already and do not want to rewrite the whole story print it out for mailing and enclose a short personal note that includes your name and address.

If you have no idea what to say, feel free to use this letter as a template.



Dateline

Your name
Your address
Your town, state, zip code

Honorable Robert N. Chatigny
Chief United States District Court Judge
450 Main Street
Hartford, Connecticut 06103

In re: Hanson v Ocwen
Civil Case #:02-CV-960

Dear Judge Chatigny,

Instead of setting an example of ethical leadership for the courtroom he oversees, Judge Christopher F. Droney's behavior has shaken the faith of the public and the foundation of the legal system. For the sake of confidence in the courts, it is time for Judge Droney to excuse himself from this case.

Please look into this matter as it as become a matter of grave concern.

Respectfully,

Your signature here



This double victimization has got to stop. Be a voice in this issue.

Judge Droney has GRANTED Ocwen's motion for more time! Why am I NOT surprised?

Judge Droney was the judge who was entrusted with the decision of where Howdy Doody would live. Isn't that sweet? Howdy has a home now all due to Judge Droney's kind heart and judicial wisdom.

Too bad he does not see fit to worry so much about the living, breathing human beings involved in this case. Howdy has a home and people live in the streets. There is something badly wrong with this picture.

I have written a letter, but have decided NOT to send to Judge Droney. Why bother? I am sure it will go into the trash unread if I do.

I am going right to the top, to the Chief Justice of the Hartford courthouse. I urge all of you to do the same, Ocwen victim or not. Any person who cares at all about justice in our courts needs to be complaining about this.

If you have a story about what the last fifteen months have been like for you with Ocwen breathing down your neck, please tell this judge. Perhaps he will open his heart and listen.

If you have filed a Rip-Off Report already and do not want to rewrite the whole story print it out for mailing and enclose a short personal note that includes your name and address.

If you have no idea what to say, feel free to use this letter as a template.



Dateline

Your name
Your address
Your town, state, zip code

Honorable Robert N. Chatigny
Chief United States District Court Judge
450 Main Street
Hartford, Connecticut 06103

In re: Hanson v Ocwen
Civil Case #:02-CV-960

Dear Judge Chatigny,

Instead of setting an example of ethical leadership for the courtroom he oversees, Judge Christopher F. Droney's behavior has shaken the faith of the public and the foundation of the legal system. For the sake of confidence in the courts, it is time for Judge Droney to excuse himself from this case.

Please look into this matter as it as become a matter of grave concern.

Respectfully,

Your signature here



This double victimization has got to stop. Be a voice in this issue.

Please send letters to the following address...

Honorable Robert N. Chatigny

Chief United States District Court Judge

450 Main Street, Hartford, Connecticut 06103

Ann Holden

Marlene has a GREAT idea! Send letters (copies, uncertified)to the CHIEF USDJ in the Hartford courthouse as well as our judge. Just in case Our Judge is inclined to ignore them, copies go to the "overseer" of the judges.
This is only the beginning. We WILL NOT stop until these mortgage servicers are either SHUT DOWN, or REFORMED!

I have read the above with interest. I am also concerned what has been written by Marlene and Robin.

Robin, you brought up party affiliation, etc. in your note when explaining all of the actors in this.

I am a part of this class action and I am wary of angering the judge that is supposed to make the rulings in this case. Where will it get us? In my estimation, no where.

Many people have invoked the name of God in these complaints many times and it is also present here. I do not feel that this is the place for that. If you are Christian, you will not have to advertise it in your missives here. I think most of us who are involved in this believe in God or a higher power, but we do not need to advertise it here. It does not belong here.

Yes, Ocwen is playing games and yes it does feel like Judge Droney is also. But the only thing we can do at this time is to continue to play "The Game" and the kind of missives that have been placed here are getting out of hand and are not called for.

Robin, I have read many of your contributions here. I do not know who you are but you are very interested in this and I wonder why. Maybe you are a very caring person and have the time to do all of this research. I am glad that you do, but at times you come off sounding very rabid about this and you have no dealing with Ocwen.

I just think it is time for people to sit back, take a deep breath and let's move on.

After re-reading your missive, I realized that there are some things that perhaps I still did not make clear enough for your understanding.

Jonas Salk was not a victim of polio. But thank GOD that he CHOSE to make that disease his problem. He helped remove a terrible threat from the earth by doing so. It is not a prerequisite that one be a victim to care about something.

I re-read my report, looking for all those aspersions I was casting. It very clearly states John Droney is a Democratic party bigwig IN CONNECTICUT. That statement is hardly a condemnation of the entire party. Both Parties are perfectly capable of making buffoons of themselves on a national level without any assistance from me. Read the news.

If you think politics is playing absolutely no part in what is going on in this case in Hartford right now, read this:

http://old.hartfordadvocate.com/articles/droney.html

In case there is too much commentary in the article (it is a long piece involving gang violence) and you do not choose to read the entire thing, I will paste a couple of pertinent excerpts in the sequence in which they appear in the article: (Excerpted from the Hartford Advocate)

"The rap on Droney is that he is perhaps the most promising Connecticut politician to kiss politics goodbye in recent memory. He has a political pedigree as a former West Hartford mayor and an up-and-comer in the Democratic Party. His brother, former state Democratic chairman John Droney, is one of the party's true power brokers, a backroom wheeler-dealer who is considered one of the best fund-raisers in the state.

His younger brother's appointment as U.S. Attorney in 1993 was clearly a case of political patronage. As member of the state Democrats' campaign steering committee, Chris Droney managed Al Gore's Connecticut campaign for president in 1988 and took part in Joseph Lieberman's upset victory that same year over then-senator Lowell Weicker. As a result of his loyalties and because Chris Droney was friends with Zoe Baird, President Clinton's first pick for Attorney General, Chris was appointed U.S. Attorney for Connecticut in 1993. John's connections didn't hurt, either: the elder Droney had been Lieberman's campaign manager and headed President Clinton's 1992 state campaign."

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"When Droney became U.S. Attorney, he donned a law-and-order mantle. But when he talks about long-term solutions to the gang problem, he turns positively New Democrat in style, talking about weed-and-seed operations, social programs and the need for increased funding for outreach projects in the city's poorest housing projects.

"This is even more important than the law enforcement effort, in my judgment," he says. "I didn't think there was much chance to try to do the social andeducational part of this in 1993 and 1994. Midnight basketball is not going to be the answer when you have streetcorner shootings occurring. But now's the time to reach out and try to provide alternatives. We have a window of opportunity that hasn't existed in five years."

If so, this would seem to be an unfortunate time for Chris Droney to step out of the political arena. Having built an impressive legal and political career, he says there is nothing in particular about politics that has turned him away from seeking higher elected office. "I always believed it was important to keep things in perspective, not to just blindly run for the next office," he says. Droney, who has three young daughters, says he wants to spend more time with his family.

Yet given the upward trajectory of his political career, his decision to opt for the federal bench is puzzling to some. Perhaps, as some political insiders speculate, his appointment to the bench is a reward for staying out of politics, at least until the current crop of elected Democrats have ended their careers. A cynic might say that Droney may see some ill winds in the gang scene coming and wisely has decided to step aside before he is blown aside.

Whatever Droney's reasons, Connecticut's leading gangbuster believes firmly that the next step is to address the deep-rooted economic and sociological problems that have incubated gang violence -- and that these problems will not be solved overnight. It is a lesson that should not be ignored, even as Droney himself walks away from the political arena where he believes the next battles against the gangs will be fought. After all, for Chris Droney, taking down Hartford's street gangs was strictly business -- it was nothing personal. And so is his exit.

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I think there may just be a little Democratic Party politics at play here. Judge Droney evidently was very active in the Connecticut Democratic political scene at one time and I have no reason or evidence to point to the fact that he has left that 100% completely behind him. In fact, I seriously doubt that he has. It is extremely difficult for any human not to carry baggage from what has been before. Short of a lobotomy, I would say it is impossible!

None of this is to say that I think being a Democrat is a bad thing. I really do NOT care if this judge is a Dem, GOP, Independent, or from Mars. However, I feel that there may be a constraint in place due to past political affiliations that may be creating a conflict. Sometimes we have conflicts that we are unable to recognize ourselves simply because we are convinced that we do not have any lean one way or the other. It is called "self-delusion" and all humans are adept at it.

And since you chose to inject the Fairbanks/Basmajian debacle into your rant, I will address it further as well. There are actions against Fairbanks all over the country. Preliminary injunctions are being granted to protect the borrowers and THE CASES ARE MOVING ALONG! Unlike the Hanson v Ocwen case, which seems to be at a complete standstill. In fact, the way it looks now, the Fairbanks cases will be finished before this case gets moving.

There is a difference between the actions. Fairbanks hearings are heard in State Courts. Hanson v Ocwen is being heard in Federal court.

Tell you anything? If not you are blind in one eye and cannot see out of the other.

As for your d**k Cheny rant, here is a link to an article in the Boston Globe dated 09/15/2003 that addresses the issues you seem concerned about. Once you have read it, we will both have the same amount of insight into this topic:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2003/09/15/cheney_denies_role_in_iraq_deal/

I hope this will clear up some of you misconceptions concerning this report, what it is for, and what it is intended to accomplish.

It is a plea for relief for hundreds of people trying with all their mights to keep their homes! The last fifteen months has been hard on them.

Robin, that response is so typical of the "Christian" "right"; make yourself the martyr and blame everyone else for the repercussions of your actions in a nasty, most un-Christian tone. Pure blasphemy. I can easily comprehend what you wrote. In fact, just to make sure, I showed your report to several other people and they interpreted it the same way I did; that you're accusing Judge Droney of being corrupt because of his brother's association with a convicted felon -- both of whom happen to be members of the Connecticut Democratic Party -- and because he was appointed by the "Christian" "right"'s favorite lightning rod, Bill Clinton (tell me, who would you "Christians" blame if Clinton was never president?). That's specious logic and thus, because you chose to go on some hysterical, libelous rampage, it's not my fault you can't express your thoughts correctly or that you wear your partisanship on your sleeve. Maybe instead of spending all day on this site you could take up a night course in composition in addition to reading the New Testament to understand how a true Christian should conduct themselves. Maybe you could also brush up on your reading comprehension because I gave those examples, that seemingly have nothing to do with Judge Droney or Ocwen, to show that corruption happens on both sides of the aisle; but apparently that went over your partisan head. Maybe it's also over your head that implications can be the same thing as if you stated a proposition directly.

Additionally, your charges of partisanship and cronyism on the part of Judge Droney are pure speculation and blaming the Democrats for Ocwen is patently false considering the weight of the evidence. If you ever bothered to research the roots of predatory lending (which your response shows you haven't because you chose to ignore where the money comes from and where it goes) instead of shooting your mouth off about others being uneducated, you would see it's an outgrowth of the corporatist, crypto-fascist faction of the Republican Party (hint: look up the Resolution Trust Corp.). You would also understand what role Thomas Basmajian plays in all this.

Further, your report does more damage for the putative plaintiffs' cause than Ocwen could ever hope to do itself. If I were one of the attorneys for Ocwen, I would print out this report of yours and give it to Judge Droney to show him what's being said about him. Then if I was Judge Droney, I would consider calling an attorney to determine whether I had a viable case for libel based on your specious reasoning (yes, you can be held liable for the implications you make; it doesn't necessarily have to be a direct statement). Did you not think Mr. Hanson and his attorney already took a huge risk by moving for the judge to recuse himself? Or is it your intent to seriously jeopardize this case by encouraging others, who actually have a stake in this litigation, to file complaints regarding Judge Droney's competency? Yeah, that will definitely make this case go faster, tick off the man who has the power to move this case forward or can refuse to certify the class or dismiss the case altogether. Will you be footing the bill for the costs of an appeal if Mr. Hanson has his case dismissed and has to take it to the Second Circuit in New York City? Did you even stop to consider what the consequences of your proposal would be or did you hysterically start typing, like it was some knee-jerk reaction, without thinking?

Moreover, where did I say I was a Democrat? I don't remember writing that. I may be a member of the Green, Socialist or Libertarian Parties, or I may have no party affiliation at all. Your jab at Clinton provoked me to respond not because I'm a Democrat, but because I'm tired of this mindless behavior of those of you on the "right" who believe anything you hear without researching the truth and making up your own mind. Then you choose, in the most purile manner, to imply that I have some connection with this "good ol' boys" club in Connecticut. This seems to be a pattern with you, make some hysterical, false implication and then cry martyr and claim you never said such a thing when you're called on your words. Very juvenile. Further, Robin, I'm not the only one who distrusts your motives; there are others who have expressed the same concerns.

And Marlene, as far as your last paragraph, takes one to know one. There are also many who wonder what your blathering is about half the time, if there's even a point in what your write and often question your mental stability.

I believe that people with partisan affections should not post here unless they want to help us out.

Ocwen does not ask political preferences in order to abuse borrowers. There are victims on both sides. As a matter of fact, it migh be more Ocwen victims on the Democrat's side, since this party has a reputation of protecting more the rights of the poor, and the minorities (easiest victims for Ocwen) I am a member of a minority myself. Am I a Republican? Am I a Democrat! I forgot. Now, I'm an Ocwen victim, and I'll take your hand, and any hand (R of D) if you offer it to me, and to my brothers and sisters, all victims of Ocwen Satan.

Who, in "need", will refuse the hand (R of D) who offers help? How stupid do you think we are?

So, stop the political garbage because we don't need it here! Besides, can anyone offer a list of the Democrats and Republicans that are on OUR side? I think we should send letters to those good people from both parties. If someome has that info, please post it, so we can make them more aware of our situation by writing to them.

Also, if I am a hetero and fight for the rights of the homo, I show a higher civil value than a Homosexual or a Heterosexual fighting for its equals's rights.

By the same token, if I am Anglo and fight for Latins/Black rights, I show more merit than if I belong to their groups and fight the same.

Jesus says that loving our people has no much merit because "also the gentiles(or bad)love their own blood very much."

As a matter of fact, I believe the Erby brothers, Litton Jr. and Judge Droney, love their families deeply. So, what do you mean with that "agenda" you are talking about? Pure, stupid NONSENSE of yours! Shame on you!

The narrow minded and the small-hearted should stay out of our way, because we are not going to stop the battle, just to please them.

MORE IMPORTANT THING NOW:

Folks, do not forget the letters to Judge Droney (between Oct. 1st and 15, CERTIFIED). If you don't know what to write, I think we could use the report from Robin, the smallest one.

We can also asks relatives and friends, who understand our never ending tragedy, to send their own letters to Judge Droney.

Robin, I am sorry you are taking the undeserved "attacks and heat" of the morons and/or malicious, just for defending us.

I personally give less than a crap about the Democratic Party, or the Republican Party, for that matter. They each follow their own agenda. What was said is: Political agendas do NOT belong in a courtroom. In other words, take it outside, boys, because it will not be tolerated in a judicial venue. I merely said it seemed that there were quite a few Democrats involved in this case.

As for all your references to the ills of the Republican Party; again I say to you, I give less than a crap. This will continue to happen until we little people demand that it stop. This is where I choose to make my stand and if you dont like it, dont read it. I have a particular aversion to what is being done to citizens by this industry.

I bash each party equally because they are so caught up in advancing the party organism that they totally forget the cells that make it up. That is you and me; the little people. I am tired to death of watching the little guys get sacrificed for the good of the Party and that goes for BOTH parties.

This is not a report about Party politics...it is a report about possible judicial misconduct.It is a report about the creeping rot in a courthouse in Hartford, CT. Period.

As for Bill Clinton, he was indeed the President who appointed this judge. Should I just have omitted his name in the interest of not offending you?

That is all that is saidthat Judge Droney was appointed by a Democratic president, Bill Clinton. Where is all this partisan and corrupt stuff you seem to be reading? It merely indicates that Judge Droney is more than likely a card-carrying Democratic Party member.

I have no agenda except to make d**n sure that our legal system does not continue to work in the interests of Big Business and Big Government and turns its attention to what it was intended to be: an instrument of justice. Is that too complicated for you to grasp?

Thomas Basmajian is no part of this suit and it is ridiculous for you to introduce him as I have included him nowhere in my report. He is not pertinent to this case. Save that crap for your own report if he bothers you so.

I am well aware of how many elected Congressional members are bought and paid for by this corrupt industry and do not need you to educate me in that regard. I have researched it well.

I am well aware of why these laws favorable to this cesspool industry are advanced. And this is how it gets amended; by making sure that our courts act in a just manner. I have every right to watch this case or any other, as you do.

You are bent on introducing all sorts of issues that have no bearing whatsoever on any of this. You have also attributed words to me that are solely your own invention and make vague threats of libel suits when you do not even grasp what is written. Try reading it all again. I am sure that Judge Droney will be confounded to read that his brother is now a convicted felon!

Where does this report say that John Droney was a convicted felon? Silvester is the convicted felon and as far as I know he is no relation to the Droney family at all. No libel, just links to news stories that I found interesting. Which you apparently did not even bother to read.

Tell you what. Since you seem to be a loyal Party Democrat yourself and live relatively close to Hartford as compared to my geographical location, drop by the Courthouse and say hey to the good old boys there. Find out what the hell IS going on in that courtroom. Take notes so that you dont screw it up as you seem to have a comprehension problem. Then let the rest of the world know what is taking so long! That is all we want to know.

Robin, your research on this issue has turned up some useful information; however, there are a couple points that need to be corrected. First, do not cast aspersions upon the entire Democratic Party for the actions of two people, who just happen to be in the Democratic state party and have no influence outside Connecticut or on the national level. That kind of sweeping generalization is simply partisan in itself and just incorrect.

Anyone who is a resident of Connecticut or follows Connecticut politics knows that both of the two major parties act in their own self interests without regard to that of their constituents.

In fact, it's common knowledge that one of Connecticut's U.S. senators is in the pocket of the defense industry because defense contracts are a major source of revenue for the State and defense contractors tend to be generous with campaign contributions. Moreover, the same kind of argument could just as easily be made for the Republican Party.

For example, Halliburton received multi-billion dollar, no-bid contracts to rebuild Iraq (paid for by you and me as taxpayers) and still pays d**k Cheney an annual severance package for his years as C.E.O. Coincedence or political corruption? An investigation by the F.B.I. into the Saudi government's links to September 11th is blocked by an executive order dating back to 2001.

Those agents who have been to the kingdom to look into finances of government officials and wealthy Saudis, like The bin Ladens, see the names George W. and Jeb Bush, Harken Energy (GWB's last oil exploration company) and Arbusto (Spanish for "bush") L.P. turn up in numerous instances. Then, twenty-eight pages concerning the hijackers links to certain Saudis are redacted from Congress' report on September 11th. Coincedence or did someone want to put the kibosh on a potentially embarassing connection being made public?

Second, if you do some research at the Federal Election Commission website, you will find that Ocwen and Litton Loan have contributed to the Republican Congressional political action committee. Thomas Basijiman, former C.E.O. of Fairbanks Capital, and his wife gave generously to George W. Bush's presidential campaign in 2000. Rep. Bob Ney, a Republican Congressman from Ohio, introduces a bill which would pre-empt tough state and local laws regarding predatory lending and gives the mortgage industry several loopholes through which lenders can escape liability. By the way, Rep. Ney receives large contributions from several political action committees in the mortgage industry. I think these examples would be more suggestive of the reason why Ocwen and other predatory lenders have gotten away with what they have done for this long than the trial and conviction of a political operative from Connecticut, which had nothing to do with predatory lending or servicing or the federal courts.

Third, you raise the bogeyman of the right, Bill Clinton, in an attempt to prove your argument that Judge Droney is partisan, hopelessly corrupt and cannot be trusted to do the right thing. By doing this, I could just as easily ask what your agenda is since you yourself are not a victim of Ocwen but have taken it upon yourself to compose numerous reports and replies which invoke God and this latest report which casts aspersions upon the Democratic Party.

Finally, your report suggests that because Judge Droney happens to be the brother of a convicted felon, he himself is behaving in a corrupt manner without presenting actual proof. I would be very careful about doing this because your report borders on, if not is, libel.