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Complaint Review: Ikarus Great Danes - Internet Texas

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  • Ikarus Great Danes 4619 San Dario Ave. #239 Laredo, Tx 78041 USA Internet, Texas United States of America

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I bought a European Great Dane puppy from a breeder in Laredo, Tx. She is supposed to be a breeder of European Danes. I bought a puppy from a breeding between Napoleon Von Schlesien and Mailie Von Schlesien. My Puppy was bought on Full breeding rights with the intention of using her in my breeding program when she was of age.


My Dane is now 6 months old. She had an incident which resulted in surgery. The vet found out that she had a genetic defect, So she is not breedable. She has Calvarial Hyperostosis and Craniomandibular Osteopathy. I contacted Claudia, who is the breeder, and told her my vet findings. She went on to say that she was sorry this happened and to send her a report and pictures. Which I did in the evening.


She later called me back and said she was again sorry but she only covers LIFE threatening Genetic Defects. That she has had people before call her about Genetic Defects in her lines and she was still breeding them. How can someone breed these Danes and still be able to sleep at night knowing that she is not bettering the breed but to only line her pockets. 



I have spent thousands of dollars to save my Great Dane and thanks to breeders like Claudia I will not be able to do what I have always wanted to do and that is to better the breed through Aurora's Lines. But now I can take this as a lesson learned and that is to let people know about this breeder who does not love the breed as I do. 

I am not the only one who has been ripped off by this breeder. There are puppies on Puppyfind that have been posted by the owners who have found out about this breeder and are trying to find pet homes only for their Danes that carry genetic defects from these breedings.

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AUTHOR: setyoustraight2011 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, January 20, 2012

At the time of that this report was made, I was very upset. I did send Claudia the report but it was a not a clear report that the vet gave me. I could only give her what was given to me. I have no problems spending the money on my Danes.

I have spent more on them than what I spend on myself. They have always come first to me. If I was going to complain about the thousands of dollars that I spent, I wouldn't have done the surgery if it was something I didn't want to do. But I did it to help Aurora. Any who. My point being is that myself and numerous other breeders have done more research on this.

Aurora has NO GENETIC DEFECT!!!  Did I jump the gun before I did more research? Yes. But of course, at that time, I only went by what my vet told me. Now I know not to use that vet anymore. Because he was obviously wrong. 

So I do apologize for all that was posted in my previous rebuttal. 

Claudia,  Aurora is still here with me, she is sound and happy. Still the same crazy, goofy, funny, happy, & intelligent girl. 

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Beware, Sofia Harnett from Harnett Danes does not tell the full story!

AUTHOR: Ikarus - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, January 20, 2012

I sold a puppy to this person and she contacted me letting me know that the puppy had an accident, what she calls "an incident" in her complaint, was actually an accident.  She should be clear in her "complaint." 

So this puppy injured her forehead which created significant swelling to her forehead.  She took the pup to the vet and the vet told her that the swelling would go down on it's own.  After 4 weeks, she took the pup back to the vet because she still had swelling.  She claims to have spent "thousands of dollars trying to save her"  As with all animals, there are trips and expenses to the vet for which each individual owner is responsible for.  Why should the breeder cover costs for an ACCIDENT.  It was then that she claims that the vet told her the pup had a genetic disease know as Calvarial Hyperostosis.  This was a new disease for which I have never heard of because it is a disease mostly prevalent in the breed, Bull Mastiffs.   So of course my concern was, what is this disease and why would the puppy have it.  It was then that I asked her to send me a report from her vet, so as to learn more about the disease and the situation.  She then sent me a generic report explaining the disease, what it was, treatment, etc.  It was a report out of a book.  And in that same report that she sent me, the etiology was stated as "UNKNOWN"  Meaning, that the cause of the disease is unknown, not genetic as she claims, but rather unknown. I did tell her that I cover life threatening genetic diseases, but since I was not familiar with this disease I asked her to send me an official report from the her vet and not just a description of the disease. I requested a report from her vet that specifically stated that the puppy was tested and diagnosed with this so called disease, which is not known to be genetic, but listed  "unknown" as the etiology.   After which she never did.  You would think that if she had an actual report from the vet she would send it to me immediately. 

She then continued to say how upset she was because they had to do some surgery on the puppy's forehead to drain out the fluid that had accumulated there from the INJURY, which was left unattended for 4 weeks, which left the puppy with scarring.  Well of course that comes with owning a pet, if they have an accident then you must take appropriate measures to bring them back to health and healing.  Still I was expecting her to send me the report to move forward, but she never did.  Instead she placed a complaint against me.  But like I told her, if it was an injury, of course I can't cover that. Why didn't she send me anything from the vet and not just a generic report that describes the disease she claims the puppy has? 

Obviously she is upset because now she can't breed her, and there are no guarantees, regardless of breeding potential, that one will be able to breed or show a dog.  No reputable great dane breeder or any other type of breeder for that matter, will give you that guarantee.  There are too many factors in regards to the care of animal, by the new owner, in order for one to be able to "breed" or "show" a dog.  And those factors are out of the control of the breeder.

She claims that I am only breeding to "line my pocket" without even knowing me personally as a breeder.  She obviously does not know how much money I invest into my great danes.  That they have air conditioned kennels with appropriate flooring and bedding, that I spare no expense at giving them the highest quality food on the market.   That I have employees on salary that see that each one of my danes gets appropriate daily exercise, that they ensure that each dane gets the appropriate and adequate nutrition.  That do round the clock cleaning and maintenance on my kennels.  That there are endless visits to the best vets in Texas to ensure their health.  That I have great relations with the best kennels throughout Europe who know me personally and have a professional working relationship with me. She obviously does not know the commitment that I put into each and every one of my danes and puppies.  The commitment that I make to continouly better my lines. 

But still she wants a full refund, based on her word, that the vet told her this pup has Calvarial Hyperostosis, a disease in which the etiology is UNKNOWN and not genetic as she claims.  But instead was the result of an INJURY.

She claims that I have had people before contact me about my pups having genetic disease which is totally false.  She seems like an angry and bitter person.  I wish her the best in her endeavors and strongly recommend she reconsider breeding. Because if she is complaining about these expenses now, as a breeder, there are many more expenses that will come her way.

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