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Complaint Review: Jason Allen - Mesa Arizona

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  • Jason Allen 633 W. Portobello Ave Mesa, Arizona U.S.A.

Jason Allen Private Car Salesman In Arizona ripoff fraud lied decieve deceptive lemon car odommeter fraud lying Mesa, scottsdale, tempe, chandler, gilbert, phoenix Arizona

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*Consumer Comment: Good Advice

*Consumer Suggestion: What to do now

*Consumer Comment: Rest of the story

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I answered an ad in the Arizona Republic newspaper for a 97 Honda Passport. I asked how many miles the car had and he said 86K. I asked a few more questions. All sounded good so I handed the phone over to my dad. He also asked him how many miles and again he said 86K. My dad asked him where we could see the car and he gave us the address 633 W. Portobello Ave. We headed over.

I ended up ripped off giving Jason Allen a $4400 gift!

I have made a web page telling the whole ugly story. Includes pics. Learn from my mistake.

M
phoenix, Arizona
U.S.A.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Jason

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, August 05, 2004

I am the original poster of this complaint. I am glad to see another person has replied. Thank you. My hope is that we can get up enough people to take care of this problem. In case you don't know, there is another complaint about Jason on this site. The report #6037.

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Good Advice

AUTHOR: Charlene - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 04, 2004

Thanks Larry for your good advice on what to do now. I have a close friend who also was a victim of Jason Allen's (she is working on her rip-off report now).
She bought a car from him in April and within a month the engine blew. We later discovered that the odometer had been turned back on her car.

We have been trying to figure out what to do now that we know that he purposely committed fraud in selling this car. I think it's important for scam artists like this to have to pay consequences for their actions so that they don't keep doing this to other unsuspecting victims.

This guy also lists his cars on Auto Trader.com so he definitely has to be over the 5 cars per 12 month limit. We are going to actively start working on some of your suggestions and I would hope that M. would do the same.

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What to do now

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, July 29, 2004

You can file suit against this guy in the Justice Court. The odometer rollback is pretty blatant evidence of fraud, which is grounds for rescinding your agreement to buy the car. Also, since the title was never transferred to Jason he had no legal right to sell the vehicle to you.

Since you are now the owner of the car, you can go to your local MVD office and get all the records of transfers of title which will have the mileages recorded. That's pretty sound evidence of the actual mileage.

You should also check with the Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) and see if you can get the mileage records each time the car was emission tested.

Jason Allen sounds like someone running an unlicensed auto dealership out of his home. I believe that Arizona law prohibits anyone other than a licensed dealer from buying or selling more than 3 cars per year. Jason probably gets under the radar by never putting title in his own name, as you noticed.

If Jason is advertising in the AZ Republic, you might try doing a search in their on-line archives for his telephone number. The Republic used to include some classified advertising in their searchable archives. It would certainly be one way to prove that he is operating a car dealership.

File complaints with MVD about the lack of license and with the city of Mesa about the unlicensed business in his home. Neither will get you your money back, but it may cause him some well-deserved grief.

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Rest of the story

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 28, 2004

Since they erased my website address, I will have to put the rest of the story here:

He wasn't there when we showed up eventually. We looked at the Honda and it looked great. Clean inside, 2 so-so tires and 2 really good tires, engine cleaned; the car looked loved and well cared for. When we went to test drive it, it wouldn't start. He said it was out of gas. He took a gas can and got some gas. He returned, put the gas in and it started. I drove the car and we went to a gas station to put in more gas. When I went to start the car, it wouldn't start. I thought maybe it was due to my not being used to a stick, as I have been driving an automatic for years. He was able to start the car.

As I drove the car around, he was on his cell phone giving directions to someone else to come and see the car. I drove around a bit and went back to his place. Some people did show up and looked a little lost. They ended up taking his other car for a ride. Jason told my father that if the price was right, he'd sell it to them.

My father and I went back to our van and my dad made a call to check on the cars vin number. We found out the car was actually a 96, not 97.
We found out it did not have a salvaged title. All seemed good so I offered Jason $4200. Jason said $4300 and I said ok. He asked me if he could take out the stereo as it was really nice. I ended up paying him $100 more to keep it. We went inside the house and he wrote out a bill of sale and had me sign it. Then he filled out the back of the title with my details, had me sign the back of it and I then had it in my hands. I noticed the name on the title was not his name. I asked who it was. He said, "my father". I noticed the title had been signed and notorized and was satisfied. The title also came with a lien clearance. I handed it to my father and we left the inside of the house.

When we were back outside my father asked him if he could show me how to work the stereo. Jason was in the passanger seat and I in the drivers seat. My mother happened to notice that on the lien clearance it said that back in 2001 the car was bought with 115K miles. My father went to the passanger side of the car and confronted Jason about it. Jason said it was a mistake. My father said it was no mistake. Jason just kept telling him it didn't matter and tried to divert attention back to the stereo. I saw how he was avoiding my father. I stepped out of the car and told him that he needed to talk to my dad.


Jason kept saying that the miles just don't matter, that it is a great car. How Honda's run for forever. My dad did not agree and said we cannot go through with the purchase of the car. We wanted our money back. Jason Allan said no. My father said it was fraud and he would call the police. Jason still said no and so dad called. Jason went back inside of the house, came back out and said he was leaving. He got in his car and left.

Jason came back a short time later. He went inside and changed his clothes. He came back out dressed quite nice, even down to shined shoes! My dad talked to Jason trying to appeal to his better nature, but THERE WAS NONE! The police showed up. They talked to my parents. They then
talked to him and told him to just give us back our money and sell to someone else. Jason said no.

Well, we were stuck with the car. My dad was going to drive it as as I was furious. Dad went to start the car and it wouldn't start. The police asked Jason if he would start the car for us. My dad asked what the trick was and Jason said there was none. Of course, the car then started when Jason did it. We left.

The next day we noticed a good amount of oil on the ground underneath the car. I took it for a short drive, and while waiting to make a left turn, the car died. I couldn't get it started again. I called my dad to come out. He wanted to call a tow, but I said no. So he came out. He did get the car started and we drove it to the mechanics.

The mechanic went to drive it and the car died on him He couldn't get it to start up again. (Big surprise)They never did figure out for sure what that was, so they couldn't fix that problem.

The mechanic went looking for the oil leak and he found it. The brakes were in bad shape.. The radiator you could hear boiling even though the temp gauge indicated that the temp was fine. The two rear axels were in very bad shape. What makes this car worthless is that oil problem. To fix it there is some kind of nut on the crank shaft that has to be removed and it is on crooked.They tried everything, that was safe to remove it. If they stepped up trying, they could break it and that
could ruin the engine. We have been told by TWO mechanics it is not worth the risk. Sell it for parts.


How this has affected my life:

After buying a car, the next thing I would be saving money for was a down payment for a home. Now getting our own home has been delayed because I have to save up again for another car. The car we do have is in bad shape and I will probably have to put more money into it to just keep it running, which is money not put into savings.
I do not know if we will make it to my husbands family for Christmas as planned due to money lost. My father feels awful and is upset.
My son wishes he never would have come with us to see the car. I have a sick, heavy feeling all day and I only lose it when I sleep. As soon as I open my eyes from sleeping everyday, I instantly feel yucky. A horrible feeling of being ripped off, and the realization of how much money
I lost. That was the most money I had ever held in my hands.

July 10, 2004 is the date I was ripped off by Jason Allen.

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