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Complaint Review: JSJ And Associates/Cydcor - Malden Massachusetts

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  • JSJ And Associates/Cydcor Pleasant St. Malden, Massachusetts U.S.A.

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I went on an interview with these people, the first interview was like 10 minutes, all fluff and oh wow we do marketing for fortune 500 companies and have huge accounts. They then asked me general questions for about 5 minutes and said they'd call me back for a 2nd interview most likely...surprise! they did.

I drove 8 hours to get to this interview as I was moving to the area and looking for work. I get there and they told me it would be day long so I thought perhaps I'd be meeting others in the company. I'd also like to mention their office looked like it had been there about a week in a dirty old office building above a payless shoes. I sat in the "waiting area" and was told I was going to go out with assistant manager to do field work. I thought this was a little odd but ok.

I got in a broken down car with 3 other people that had no exhaust whatsoever. I then rode for an hour to a town I've never heard of and began to "canvas" the area to drop "pieces". It was door to door sales to business for some golf package. It was the worst day of my life. I walked at least 10 miles, rode in a car that was so loud by the end of the day when we drove by cars with car alarms they would go off because of the loud vibrations. Blisters covered my feet and every single person in this terrible car smoked the entire way home so I had a raging headache for my 8 hour drive home.

If they contact you for an interview I suggest not going it is a complete and total waste of time and just because it says they need "energetic graduates" don't be fooled. it's a really big scam.

Ramona
Brighton, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Get real and get back in school, or you'll be the one with regrets!

AUTHOR: TIm - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 05, 2003

Roxanna... don't confuse "training" with "education." What you are recieving from this company is job specific training, not a well rounded education that will open many doors for you. If you have been told by your colleauges that college is a ripoff, my advice is to run as far away from this company as fast as you can. A liberal arts education allows you to pursue a multitude of career options that are proven avenues to success. Multi level marketing is not a proven avenue to success. In fact, for the VAST majority of people who involve themselves in it, it is a losing proposition.

I understand that the summer-job market has been very tough this year, and I am happy to hear that you have at least earned some money with this company. The best advice that anyone can give you at this point is this: be thankful that you were able to earn a little cash this summer, and get yourself back in school come fall. College is not a ripoff, and anyone who tells you that it is is not your friend.

Red flags abound with this company, and the fact that they have convinced you that their "education" is better than the one you get at college is about the biggest, reddest flag I have heard of thus far. Why wouldn't they want their potential office managers to be educated? The answer is simple: educated people think critically and ask questions, questions like "why is your turnover rate so high?" and "why do you focus on the rare examples of extreme success and not tell us how the average guy fares?" and of course "why are you trying to dissuade me from getting an education?"

While there certainly is a chance that you will achieve success in this industry, that chance is extremely thin. Your chances of success are much, much, MUCH better if you complete a bachelor's degree than if your sole education is in door to door sales.

Consider that the average person with a B.A. earns 10,000$ more per year than their non-educated counterparts. This differential pays off your 20,000$ tuition in just two years. On the other hand, the average MLM employee earns less than minimum wage. Admittedly, I don't know the exact numbers for your company, but MLM as a whole is a bad proposition. Even the MLMs considered by most to offer the best opportunities, Mary Kay and Avon, have huge turnover rates and extremely low average incomes. The people who are getting rich off of MLMs don't make their money off of the successes, they make their money by bringing in recruits with big dreams who will one day inevitably leave the company bitter and disgruntled, but not before lining the pockets of the uplines via an uneven commission sharing system.

Go back to school. Get your degree. Cydcor will still be there when you get out. If you want to go back, then do so, but don't close a door that you are so close to throwing wide open. Don't let people fill your head with bad advice via scare tactics about the job market. Don't let them tell you that the only thing you're going to do with your degree is serve burgers to Cydcor associates as they drive by in their Beamers. This is a load of bovine fecal matter meant to scare you into making a bad decision.

Like a bad gambler, you are currently focused on the "possibility" of a six figure income in the near future. What you need to do is focus on the "probability" of success in Cydcor vs. completing your education. Ignore the company hype, ignore everything that I've said to you, and do some of your own research. Ask to see some income breakdowns, 1040s, etcetera before you make a decision that you will one day very likely regret.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

I understand...but its just one of many opinions.

AUTHOR: Roxanna - (Canada)

POSTED: Friday, July 04, 2003

I was looking for a summer job and it is very hard to find a good job.

I was also taken on a day of O and was skeptical at first because everything sounded too good to
be true. I'm starting to understand the business and that school is just another ripoff. I'm making a few sacrifices, some days I only go home with $20 in my pocket, but there are days where I get $150 in my pocket, so I'm taking that as a posititve negative. You have to sacrifice some in order to get ahead. I believe that in 4 or 5 months I should be able to open up my own office and make a six figure income. The good thing about Granton is that it is an on-the-job education and you don't have to spend
$20,000 to learn.

I can't believe I wasted 3 years and $15,000 on school where I could I have worked with Granton all this time. I just recruited my boyfriend and he loves it too. It's such a fun and juicy atmosphere. I'm never going back to school again. So Ramona, I urge you to give it a try, it is a great opportunity and you'll be sorry you ever left. Trust me Ramona, its a good opportunity and you should give it a try.
JUICE baby!

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

That company had no decency to you!

AUTHOR: Todc - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 27, 2003

That was really low of them to make you do all that driving just for a day of observation. I have seen examples of people FLYING in for interviews - so don't feel too bad. Good for you for exposing them!

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