Kasamba, Robin Bluedragon, Psychic Emily Rose, Melodie, Nicola, Kasamba Utopia, Serenity Garden SCAM Robin Bluedragon, Nicola, Melodie and others run a group called Kasamba Utopia where they SHARE CLIENT INFORMATION!! THEY ALSO PLANT RATINGS FOR EACH OTHER! OUTRAGEOUS!!!!!!!! Tiro Ohio

 
Listen folks, here is a person who has been in 'the trenches' with these reprehensible people.

I appears that he/she has reached the conclusion that they are ALL scam artists.  Congratulations!  I hope you mean ALL psychics are frauds and there are not ANY psychics.

Good for you.

Everything in the initial post was unsubstatiated,no proof what so ever. The 'anti-Robin' posts after it are from the same person or her friends. There have never been any complaints to Kasamba or LP about me,except by worried scammers who always seem to try and turn me into this crook of their imagination...yet in all the time I have been doing readings,online and elsewhere,NOT ONCE has anyone shown proof they had a reading from me...not once,even though their pay pal receipt would show it,as would their LP reciept.

You would think people would get tired of attacking someone for petty vengence...the writers above were all kicked off LP and Kasamba for scamming clients and ripping people off!

I recently put my money where my mouth is even more,and quit Liveperson,when they refused to do anything about the men who posed as women ( in order to get the mostly women clientel of LP to share their secrets and money,but mostly to open up those bill folds...). There is a list of most of these scamming lying crooks ( in some cases with terrorist connections...) elsehwere here on RoR. I could no longer work for a site that not only allowed 'readers' to rip off clients every which way,even though I had been there for close to 10 years,because the powers that be at Liveperson are more concerned about rolling in  the dough then about treating someone honestly.

If you look through her profile she has gone by several names,and many more faces..and was formerly on the site as Third Eye psychic,who was removed with her pals for scamming a client out of almost 50 K back in the Kasamba days..LP would have patted her o the back and given her a prize or something I am sure.

You have never been to me...neither has the one who posts after you,if you are even different people. I have been offering for years a refund to anyone not satisfied,and not once have I had to give one..no one who makes these insane accusations ever seems to have a transaction number or anything showing they actually had a reading with me,its all just bullshit made up in order to extract revenge for alerting Kasamba and Liveperson to your scams! And somehow that makes me a bad guy...what a bunch of morons you must be to think the clients we have are that stupid! But then you did spend alot of time scamming them....

If you had really had a reading with me,I will gladly refund you if you can post to me the transaction number,the date and the name you used as a client coming to me,but I already know you cant....Ihave never had any client be charged that much for one,and another thing is I have offered refunds again and again and NOT ONCE has anyone posted a real session number or anythhing else.

One of the sad things about rip off report is it could be helping people but because it allows any personal slander ,rhetoric, or allegation to be posted (unless its against rip off report....) it cant be trusted or believed.

If that person above...probably one of Christopher Ps scammer bunch ( and I do have the emails from clients complaining about how he and his group shared information and took them for money,which is why Kas/LP kicked his scamming a*s off the site) or some other jerk who used to be on the site ripping people off.

After all this time, and ur still beating them over the head when they tell you they have had other readings........hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.  Somethings never change>>>> even years later.

I'm not going to even bother to respond to you assessment that my posts are a "rant" or that my "mental stability is declining" (or however you put it).
I will, however respond to your "refund request" statements. I DID and I have the correspondence to proove it contacted Avilon after I was advised to contact the "Experts" directly from Kasamba Customer Service. I explained that the readings she gave me at $8.99 per minute were incorrect and that her precise timeframes and insistance that she was correct never came to fruition. I requested a refund for my readings and she responded to me via e-mail that she would authorize the refund and notify Kasamba. She notified Kasamba and then informed me that she did and to "give it a little time and then verify". Kasamba DID authorize the refund and I've correspondence to support that. AND I did receive a CREDIT on my credit card. Which I have a copy of that transaction as well. SO - figure out who Avilon is (although I do see she is using the username and picture) and contact her and ask her. If she denies it - give me an e-mail address to scan my documentation and send it to.
I am mentally stable and am making a difference. So, ladies/gentleman enjoy yourselves. All you have are negative assessments, slams and insults - WE HAVE DOCUMENTATION.....BIG DIFFERENCE!!

Link up with Katie. She infiltrated our group and took all the information and tried to spread it on wahm. They took her messages down of course. Problem is she infiltrated the wrong group. What she took was some FYI early drafts of the report that were posted for group members. Only half of the information we have was in KV files. The rest and the actual up-to-date report is in another group because it is so large it was difficult to email to the early group members. She also linked in a couple of experts from our 'honest' list. we are compling in KV. That was reprehensible. She also posted the urls on wahm of an expert known to have multiple profiles to try and publicise how we target innocent members. She posted the urls of both profiles so I can't quite see her reasoning in that respect.

The actual report is copyrighted as of last week. Yes, I can do that and yes it is valid internationally under the Berne agreement. I also have an academic disclaimer that I am authorised to use. However, maybe you should find Katie and see the 'report'. Well actually some early drafts and the very large middle bit is missing - she has section 1 and 3 files that say section 4 so I guess that leaves sections 2 and 3. that she does not have. There is nothing in there that is not verified. I have inserted the urls of everything or screenshots or evidence in the form of published research - a range of things.

So happy reading.

Oh BTW even though she posted as Aussiegirl, she gave herself away when she wrote 'have a nice day'. Australians don't use that expression - ever.

ooorroo mate..now that is an aussie expression...

Provide proof that these readers are sharing client information to kasamba. Have you accurately done that or is this more of speculaton and accusation?

Susan your emotionally scattered rant of a post speaks worlds for your declining mental state.

Susan your post makes absolutely no sense, individual Kasamba experts do not have the power, nor the function/ability to issue refunds to clients, nor do they have a say in any refund transactions that take place, it all goes through Kasamba, so I am having a hard time figuring out why Kasamba would 'email you' and tell you to seek out refunds yourself, as it is literally impossible for an individual expert to give a refund, they don't have that 'function' in the expert options.

I really tried to put forth some concerns. I dont' work on Kasamba anymore, but I know a few of the little guys that do. These experts have been getting it from the big gun experts and now you and your group. They can't win because they're stuck between the rock of the likes of the MSN Message boards and the hard place of the unrealistic expectations and accusations your group is laying down. I'm not talking about the top 10, 20 or 30 experts. I'm talking all the people who consistently appear after pages three or four. I'd lay odds any of the experts that appear before page three belong to one of the big message boards and share information while telling each other how ethical they all are.

Each group is setting impossibly high standards. The only reason the high earners at Kasamba can meet those expectations is that there is some talent there, but also because they share information.

I read your response to Brandon with regard to some suicide you "heard" about. You said that Kasamba and the psychics were to blame because they fed her depression. You have absolutely no proof of some suicide you "heard" about much less that anyone at Kasamba was holding out the means of this alleged suicide to the suicidal person. It's like blaming heavy metal music for teen suicide. Even the puritanical courts of the United States have struck down such nonsense! It's ridiculous! This is what demeans your credibility. It's the kind of thing you must stay away from if you expect to gain any creditibility at all.

What criticism I offer is an attempt to offer constructive criticism. I appreciate your offer to see what you're doing at yahoo.

Honestly, if you interpret our approach from what you read here you will be way off the mark. If you want to find out what our real approach all you have to do is email me through Kasambavictims and I will tell you

At all....that is so far from the truth

why don't you email me through the group and i will show you...


your choice

Obviously you are an "Expert" on Kasamba that received 1 of my e-mails requesting a refund for fraudulent services. Clearly, you are basing the "facts" that you state in your report based on your experiences with me. Unfortunately, you are NOT correct. I was not "harrassing" "Experts" and I was directly advised by Kasamba Customer Service to contact each "Expert" and request a refund (I CAN produce a copy of that mail). Whenever you contact an "Expert" and question their practices and/or tactics you get a nasty and judgemental response along with a gracious "I'm praying for you". The FACT is that my account on Kasamba was "blocked" and the reason for that (which I have in writing from Kasamba) was to "protect me from any further abuse while a full investigation was taking place". I am aware that is BS, but, that was the explanation. In conjunction with that, I was still able to contact "Experts" and I was immediately assigned a new Username BY Kasamba and was able to access the site with my SAME e-mail address. Just prooves AGAIN that Kasamba has NO internal mechanisms to monitor what is going on at the site. If you read the other posts, it is a standard procedure to "block" accounts of customers that made complaints. I have not "harrased" "Experts". I wrote to them questioning their ridiculous profile claims/credentials and asked them to qualify what they claim in their profiles. Each and every e-mail was met with a "LEAVE ME ALONE/I DON'T HAVE TO PROOVE ANYTHING TO YOU/YOU'RE UNSTABLE", yaddy yaddy yada. I would THINK that if the credentials have ANY credibility the "Expert" would be PROUD to clarify. I am not "blocked" on Kasamba. I can access the site, request "readings" and am also STILL a registered "Expert". What Kasamba DID do to protect themselves is "block" my access to my mailbox where the volumes of incriminating e-mails lies. Fortunately for me, I printed them out as I went along. PLEASE NOTE - I NEVER EVER "COMPLAINED" ABOUT ROBIN BLUEDRAGON. I DID defend him in a post stating that he has been helpful and gave me guidance in the past on how to deal with my complaints about Kasamba. He NEVER told me to "stay away" from ANY "Experts". We NEVER discussed individual "Experts". He just confirmed my suspicions of the unethical/fraudulent practices and gave me information/contacts to assist me. He NEVER "bashed" an "Expert" OR told me about his "MSN Group". All I did was post (in his defense) that I had limited exposure to him and what I did experience was compassion, assistance and a forthright approach. Obviously, the Kasamba "Experts" are all turning against eachother and scrambling for cover. That's NOT our problem.
In response to your open assessment of my financial status. I have NEVER mentioned, posted or complained about how I "ran up my credit cards" or anything to do with not being able to afford what I paid to be mislead and used. I have NEVER complained that I had to bear any financial set backs or difficulties due to the amount of money I "ran up". YES, I did and have relentlessly requested a refund due to the fact that I was mislead by FALSE advertisement and bogus credentials. I have the right to request a refund, as Kasamba has a refund policy. The bottom line is the Kasamba "Experts" ARE being effected financially by all this disclosure, hence the continual TWISTING of what everybody writes and is doing and the relentless Psychological assessments of us by people that are credentialed to assess ANYONE OR ANYTHING. Like I keep writing - we have the RIGHT to utilize any option we can to bring this insanity to light and will continue to until satisfied. "Experts" responding to the posts in an attempt to discredit the FACTS and make it all about revenge does nothing but PROOVE that claims ARE true and the "Experts" ARE feeling the effects. We all check the site intermittently and SEE the changes...."Experts" have and continue to "disappear" and profiles HAVE been edited and the "claims" these scam artists make have changed drastically. Also, ALL the "Top Readers" have ridiculous ratings written by the same usernames over and over again. Also, if you read the ratings closely generally the subject of the "praise" is in direct comparison to what is being said about the "Expert" in the posts. Example: when I posted that Raven Franks predictions NEVER came to fruition for 9 MONTHS and how she baited me to keep returning by stating "in a couple of days, in a week, in 10 days, etc."....suddenly her ratings were all about her "predictions coming true, always come true, etc.". If you want to know what subjects are beind addressed in the posts...read the reviews. The PROOF is in the site and the changes that are taking place. PAY ATTENTION. It is so clear to me that the level of intelligence of these "Experts" is pitiful. Just pitiful. I do admit I was emotionally overwhelmed and an EASY target - that has NOTHING to do with asking for a refund (WHICH I WAS GRANTED REFUNDS FROM SEVERAL "EXPERTS") and trying to enlighten the public about this entire scam site. As far as "holes" in the group....what difference does that make....when the evidence is submitted to the appropriate venues it will be verified and confirmed. So, "Swiss Cheese" or not - it WILL happen. I DO have a contact in the media ready, willing and able to blow this story wide open. The timeframe of that is at our discretion. I did offer Kasamba the opportunity to give me a refund and I would "go away". ANY intelligent person would do the same.
"Experts" - STOP wasting your time posting these pointless counter attacks. I guess your assessment of my financial status is because you are a "Psychic".....LOL....obviously my credit card went thru for each billing so it wasn't a problem to "run up my credit cards". What WAS a problem was being double billed, over billed and billed in general for fraudulent services by people who LIED about their credentials. "Expert"??????? Yep, "Expert" scam artists. I find it funny how these same "Experts" STILL claim "100% accuracy" and that their "Spells are guaranteed" on Keen. Yet, they removed all those claims on Kasamba. "The group is not effective"???????

My experience at Kasamba pretty much mirrored yours.

There's a part of me that supports what Janice and her crew are doing. But, they're going after the wrong people and going about it the wrong way. They're going after the little guys like the ones on that list printed earlier in this thread by that Kasamba Utopia member. This makes everyone think they're experts hiding behind client status to strike down the competition. This makes one dismiss any credibility they're trying to establish. If they can't gain credibility here, how can they gain it with Kasamba.

They're not going after the "big guns" on Kasamba. The leaders of the message boards that do the bulk information sharing to stay in the top slots and lay down the law to the little guys that only bring in a fraction of what the information sharers do and get cattily swiped at on some message board somewhere because their accuracy rate isn't up to some impossible standard achieved by those that do the information sharing.

The reason the group was closed was to keep out abusive and negative people. Some actually did get in and were removed. Maybe you are one of them? If so things have moved on since then. You didn't know about the second group did you Juice?

I have been quite open about what we want to achieve and it is not about money at all. If your knowledge is so up-to-date you would realise that I actually earn quite a good salary, do not have a mortgage and can easily afford to 'lose' that money. I do not have a negative balance on my credit cards and just spent over $2,000 on a new laptop which I paid for outright. Moreover, neither I nor Susan hide behind a pseudenom like you and many others.

I have been quite open about my identity because..well...unlike you, I have nothing to hide. So if you know so much why don't you acknowledge that I am a PhD and therefore earn a good salary. No, I guess you would rather abuse than support. Sad, isn't it. Kasamba hurts people and I have given a large proportion of my time to do something about it and people like you are too small minded and petty to if not provide any assistence, at least lay off the insults. I don't care personally but people who read these reports are may be in real need of assistance.

We have a thriving group now and its NOT about money. If it were I would be working on completing my book not spending time on this (and no it is not on psychics).

Tell me juice or whatever your name is. What is your agenda? Why is it that people like you are so selfish and so narrow-minded that you cannot see past your own little issues? I want YOU to tell me what you have against me and Susan and the group. I don't care personally but I want YOU to expose your grubby little agenda. What did we do to you? Are you a fraudulent psychic that is scared. If you were psychic, truly psychic, you would know that it is about trying to address a situation that causes great distress to many people.

Honestly, it is beyond me why people like you and Karen and Katie are so mean, angry and small-minded. I REALLY don't care personally but I DO understand the feelings that occur when you relalise what has happened as a result of the experience with Kasamba. It causes people REAL distress. The group has thrived despite people like you but maybe someone who could have used a bit of support is turned off. Did you people think about that? No, I didn't think so!

Maybe you will just change name again and attack someone else. How dare you people come on here and put your discusting views upon people who are in real distress. Do you not understand this? Do you get some perverted thrill out of attacking clients who have been defrauded by experts YOU know are bent?

Anyway, the research is finished. Would you like to tell us what is in the first chapter? Just to prove you are as knowledgeable as you claim?

There are more advisors in Kasamba Utopia that are unlisted, and not on top pages. I Hope they are exposed soon. They will regret it when they are caught.

Everyone on Kasamba, including the management etc. knows that this group is in place, and that client information is shared among them. Noone knows how to step up and everyone has to hide because if you do take a stand against them, Kasamba will knock you down. It has become a very corrupt place to work.

Also, was anyone aware that "Queene" who was kicked off Kasamba for being unethical and ripping off clients, was allowed to "take over" her daughter "Native Rose" 's account? I would think that would imply that she didn't earn those ratings, therefore doesn't deserve them, but yet another case of Kasamba not monitoring anything those within that "safe" group do. Native Rose goes around claiming to not be her mother etc, but someone had posted irrefutable proof of the contrary, and to this date, Kasamba has ignored that. Its more than a blind eye, someone in this group is on the inside and manipulating things exactly as they want them to go

Just another example of how this group is allowed to plant ratings, bully and threaten other experts into submission (either joining their group or being banned), and Kasamba listens to everything that they say.

Its really sad. Unfortunately I can't even post my expert name, as I would then become a target of this group and would find my Kasamba account gone, and since I only pull in a meager 1200.00 or so a month, Kasamba would clearly get rid of me, to further protect this group of liars and cheats.

Back when I worked for Kasamba in late 2005 I ran across 2 different clients who told me this information (one of which told me that the leader of the group was demanding a thousand dollars by the following friday or that things would go completely awry. I told them to report it to Kasamba and never heard of them again.
Guess I see they did, and probably were banned or suspended as a result. I guess mum is the word amongst Kasamba's elite. On message boards, others speculate frequently about Robin Bluedragons group, and many have provided proof only to be ignored by Kasamba.
Turning the blind eye because of money......... that doesn't seem unlikely to me. I saw alot of things while I was there, enough to make me realize that I didn't belong there.

Susan aka Suzzi as she was known on Kasamba likes to make a case about complaining about Robin and being shut down. What she leaves out is that she was harassing readers demanding her money back with threats of going to RipOffReport and "the media". Susan overspent on her credit cards and now wants to blame experts because she can't take responsibility for her own actions.

Susan had her account shut down becuse she was harassing readers and causing problems. When it comes down to it both Susan and Janice are just trying to get their money back. Unfortunatly they are a lot more disorganzied than they think they are. Much of the "dirt" they think they have on kasmba is speculation and not based in fact. They have back up plans like bothering companies like Bank of America because they're connected to LP.

They have a valid cause in trying to protect others from scamming. But at the end of they day they're just pointing fingers because of their lack of self control and freaking out over the debt they ran up. Janice tries to screen to keep readers out of the group, but the group has more holes than swiss cheese.

Too many accusations and assumptions fly around here, and the biggest question is the motives of those posting these so-called reports.

Susan writes in Report: #276856 about a similiar experience. she complained and her account was suspended. Funny though the expert account that she opened at the same time just to prove how easy it could be done (and using the same details as her member account) was not suspended.

You have to wonder. I mean WE pay the support staff salary as they take a large percentage from the experts. They advertise that they provide good customer service yet they advise one client that have checked out a case of multiple profiles THOROUGHLY yet fails to see several ratings which refer to incidences of graphic sexual harasment. They syuspend one member for complaining and block her account yet allow her to register as an expert using the SAME details.

Does this constitute 'good client service'?

Wow, they suspended your account for telling them important facts?
Yes, that's how they act- IGNORE ANY COMPLAINTS.

I had readings with both (RB and Emily), I cannot say the same about them. I wasn't ask not to go to others, but that does not mean I don't believe you!

I'm not surprised or shocked to see this post. Reason being, I have had a reading with both RobinBluedragon and Psychic Emily Rose. In both readings, before we even went into hire, I was told who to not go to anymore if I wanted a reading from them. Then they backspaced before telling me to hire, I guess so it didn't save in the chat.

I didn't frequent any of the psychics he supposedly threw off, I knew something wasn't right however after my chats with the above mentioned, but when I emailed Kasamba support about it, I got a letter back from "Natalie", saying they would have to suspend my account from further transactions, but would investigate. Never heard anything back.
Just my two cents, no more, no less.

More proof of how pathetic these people are.

Like clockwork these two are seeking to blame someone that turned them in rather than take ownership for their scam. This happened with the Mirror of Life toss out.

I've never had a reading with RobinBluedragon, but he's just a reader at Kasamba. He doesn't have power over the staff there to toss scammers out the door. They were investigated based on the scams myself and I'm sure plenty of others turned them in for.

You will see a lot of slander focused on Robin and others that they connected to him on this board from here on out. Know that the source of these posts is this horrible group of readers that got booted from Kasamba. Keep in mind this just proves what sick, phoneys they all are.

If you doubt my post check out the blog page on XpsycicVisionsX site. There's plenty of profanity posted in the "shout box" towards anyone that challenges her. You'll see a classic example of the crowd that she "rolls" with and will put these fake posts into context with the criminal personas there both she and Christopher_P are.

I went to Robin Bluedragon for a spell 2 years ago, he told me that my boyfriend would come back to me. Sadly, he never did. I spent over 5 thousand dollars on Robin Bluedragon, everytime I would come back, he would say "It is soon, the power of spellwork takes time to manifest".
I then went seeking help from Melodie...she told me to not "shop around" and that Robin Bluedragon knew what he was talking about. Strangely, she knew what I was there about before I even said anything, down to the names.
I contacted kasamba and 2 days later received a threatening email to my email address from someone saying if I did not quit "bashing out" a reputable advisor, that I would find my boyfriend dead.
Kasamba ignored me :(