Report: #1392535

Complaint Review: Latin America Baseball Classic

  • Submitted: Sun, August 13, 2017
  • Updated: Wed, August 16, 2017
  • Reported By: TwentySevenOuts — Stockton California USA
  • Latin America Baseball Classic

    Internet
    USA

Latin America Baseball Classic LABC, Santo Domingo Diamond Classic, Bert Fernandez, Jim Parque, Big League Edge LABC, Latin America Baseball Classic, Bert Fernandez, Jim Parque Dominican Republic Internet

*Consumer Comment: My son played in the 2017 LABC for Jim Parque

*UPDATE Employee: Most claims are false or misleading. All that was advertised, was provided.

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Latin America Baseball Classic or LABC - there is very little information out on the web regarding LABC, organizers associated with this organization such as Jim Parque or Bert Fernandez.

Jim Parque positions the opportunity for your son if selected is a can't miss opportunity to be part of The USA Team team to compete in Latin American (Dominican Republic) and play against many "advertised" countries such as Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands and other nations.  Jim and his group of coaches hold tryouts throughout the country and selects ballplayers from ages 10-18.  If the ballplayer is selected, they are invited to play on the USA Team.

The opportunity to represent USA has its allure.  They do put out a strong disclaimer that they are not associated with Team USA.  It will cost a pretty penny to play in the event, $3500 for lodging and it doesn't include airfare.  The lodging is at Be Live Hamacha, which is an old decrepate hotel built in 1951.

To be fair, the other allure of playing for a "USA" Team sounds amazing, playing against other Latin American "Countries" also sounds amazing. Playing against Latin players sounds amazing as well.

If any of the allure panned out, it would have been an amazing trip.  However, there were only two Latin America Teams.  The actual tournament name is Santo Domingo Baseball Diamond Classic. In the US, it is branded Latin America Baseball Classic or LABC.  The teams in the pools where all from the Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic area.

The Organizers didn't have their act together.  There were very little communication.  The most disappointed aspect the local players cheated.  Several teams batted players out of turn, several players took off their jerseys and batted again.  The common theme was you're playing in their country by their rules.  The umpires favored the local teams and were very chummy with the local players.  Several parents noticed the local teams and the umpires afterwards shared beers and laughing it up.

This was not their first year organizing this event, it has been on going for the past many years.  They should have gotten this down to a science.  The event was poorly organized.  The hotel was awful. The countries that were advertised to participate - it was a false.

This event does not attract scouts (takes place during no-contact period), it is not as pretigous as it advertised and frankly, it is a pure money maker for Jim Parque.  Quite honestly, he does not care about what you think.  Parque has a bad reputation in the baseball community as a tirant, as a very strong willed former baseball player that really doesn't care about your opinion.  His assertion is that there will be willing ballplayers excited to take your spot the next year.  

Please be aware when Jim Parque comes rolling into your city and proclaim participation in the LABC representing Team USA is a can't miss / once in a lifetime opportunity.  Don't be fooled.  There's really no benefit out of this for your ballplayer.  This trip will cost you a ton of money (participation fee, lodging and airfare) and you'll have buyers remorse on your flight back home.  Families at the airport were consistently saying they couldn't wait to leave the island.  Many said this was a one and done trip, even their child was to participate for free, they wouldn't go again.

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#1 Consumer Comment

My son played in the 2017 LABC for Jim Parque

AUTHOR: Dave - (United States)

I cannot comment upon the claims by twentysevenouts, but our experience was nothing short of fantastic! Everything that Coach Parque said would occur did. The LABC tournament was amazing for my son. He learned so much and continually talks about all he experienced even now. As parents, my wife and I had a great time learning the culture, watching top level baseball, and enjoying all the great people we met on the trip.

Jim Parque is one of the best coaches our son has ever had. His resume speaks for itself and he knows the game inside and out. He is not for every baseball player because he does demand the best all the time - something our son absolutely loved!

There were not as many countries represented, but plenty to choose from. We did not go down thinking this would be a baseball tournament filled with dozens of countries. Jim Parque never stated this to us and the paperwork we signed never stated this as well. It would had been nice to see more nations represented, but that was never said.

We never experienced any cheating or umpires "homering" us, but it may had existed. We heard many people talking positively of the experience, but I am sure there were some who were not happy - as occurs with all experiences.

The only gripe I would have is with the resort. It was fair, but there were service disruptions that did become frustrating at times. However, Coach Parque forewarned us and our expectations aligned with what he said would occur. The beach was amazing!

This was our experience and it certainly was not close to what this report's claims communicate.

 

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Most claims are false or misleading. All that was advertised, was provided.

AUTHOR: Jim - (United States)

This report is not accurate in most of what it states. For the 2017 national teams, we have no record of any parent, traveler, or athlete from Stockton, CA and are unable to confirm or rectify the claims in this report (due to such falsities). Furthermore, the claims being made are grossly negligent:

1. The LABC is not the Santo Domingo Diamond Classic. These are two different baseball tournaments. 

2. There is no such person named Bert Fernandez associated with the LABC, its organization, or the USA-LABC national teams.

3. The report claims that "Jim Parque has a bad reputation in the baseball community....". Although no coach is for every athlete, Coach Parque is a former MLB player who currently trains 9 MLB teams, 60+ NCAA programs, and thousands across the world. He is actively involved in softball (as well) - training the 2017 national championship NCAA program Oklahoma Sooners. Coach Parque has trained MLB players and is involved with over 300 travel baseball teams and indoor facilities across the United States. His resume is widely considered one of the best in the industry and is sought after by some of the best organizations at all levels of the game. 

4. This parent claims that the LABC only had Dominican based teams competing, but advertised a lot of other competing nations. This is false. It is clearly stated in paperwork that all athletes and parents are required to sign, the names of nations whom have competed in past years. It does NOT state that such nations will be present.

5. The parent claims that only 2 Latin American teams competed. This makes no sense since 2017 saw the Dominican Republic, St. Croix, St. Thomas, British Virgin Islands, and the United States. Venezuela was slotted to participate, but due to political unrest - they were not able to compete. In 2016, the LABC featured all the aforementioned Nations as well as Cuba and a few other Nations. In 2018, Panama and Puerto Rico are scheduled to attend. 

6. Claims that cheating occured is not confounded. Granted, this may occur, but it is out of our control and occurs in the States. Mandates and rules are in effect for the LABC - all of which provide a tremendous, world class tournament that is founded upon respecting the game.

7. Claims that "no scouts were present (during a no-contact period)" is false. On the 2017 USA coaching staff, there were 7 NCAA baseball coaches, 3 MLB scouts, and 2 national recruiting coordinators. Teams play at the MLB complex fields of the Cubs, Dbacks, Mets, Phillies, and others. At such complex fields, MLB personnel are present and (at times) "rove" LABC games for potential prospects. ADDITIONALLY, OVER 75 NCAA AND PRO ALUMS HAVE PLAYED FOR OUR TEAMS. THIS PROVES THAT NCAA RECRUITING OR SOME SORT OF SHOWCASING OPPORTUNITIES EXISTED AND DID EXIST IN 2017. Currently, 5 of the 16U and 18U national team athletes have received NCAA recruiting that directly came out of this trip.

8. Claims from parent that they know a lot of people whom said they would not return or had a poor experience is heresay. Although we cannot confirm such, we consistently have returning players in future competing years. Our 2018 teams currently have 12 returners from the 2017 teams.

In summary,

This parent is upset and had a bad experience that most likely resulted from their son not getting playing time or their age specific team being eliminated (due to losses). We did receive some major issues from a few parents whom had sons that did not receive the type of playing time they had hoped for. However, as all paperwork and communications state, this is a national team that promises NO equal playing time or playing opportunity. Our teams will put the best nine on the field they feel will give our Nation the best opportunity to win.

 

 

 

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