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Complaint Review: Lightyear Alliance Or Lightyear Network Solutions - Louisville Kentucky

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  • Lightyear Alliance Or Lightyear Network Solutions 1901 Eastpoint Parkway Louisville, Kentucky U.S.A.

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I joined Lightyear Alliance in June of 2007. I was introduced by an old friend of mine after an ousted executive of a failed mortagage company had joined LYA. As other complaints reported, it did cost around $400 to join. It also cost $50 a month for voicemail and a web site. It is a network marketing or pyramid scheme. When you joined they encouraged you to buy several voice-over internet protocol or VoIP boxes, similar to vonage. The boxes cost $50 each and the service another $20 a month, not to mention they never work. They also wanted you to purchase planners from a supposed network marketing guru, Greg Amerman. They had seminars that they expected you to attend bi-monthly to hear Greg Amerman speak. He's made more money speaking about network marketing, than participating in network marketing. They sold me a "biz-deck" which was laminated product cards and paper hundred dollar bills to flash people the LYA business oportunity and bait them with flashing cash that almost no one ever receives, and get them to attend a "presentation." They also have you purchase in home demonstration dvd's if in the event you couldn't get all of your friends and family to a "presentation."

In August of 2007 I jumped a flight from Tampa to Louisville, Kentucky to attend "Light-Mania." It is the site of the "mega super head-quarters." They took LYA members on tours of the building and the president Sherm Henderson glad-handed as many people as he could. This "opportunity" cost me $100. The merchandise they peddled was over priced and of cheap quality. In the convention they pumped everybody up from all the chapters around the county. The only thing that was furnished for free the entire seminar was a stale sandwhich, they also held a "dance" at the end, & you had to pay for water. On the other hand they were so proud of the fact LYA had given away Hummer's covered in Lightyear insignia, & LYA gave a enscribed baseball bat to our area's leader. But this "multi-million dollar company" couldn't furnish real food or water.

During "Light-Mania" they rolled out a new product similar to calling cards. These calling cards ened up costing people I know over $400 a month in one case and in the other cases it was a similar situation. I tried to talk to as many people as I could when I was at the conference. Every person I had the opportunity to talked to had yet to make a dime from LYA. My sponsor hadn't even made his commission for bringing me in. If you attended the convention they did promote you. Manager to Sr. Manager, Sr. Manager to Regional Manager and so on and so forth. In the process they cut the commission scale, but you also had a limited time period in which to gain so many underlings and a quantity of products to purchase in order to retain the "promotion." Light-Mania cost me $450 for a flight, $100 for a hotel room split 4 ways, and my sponsor was so broke he borrowed $100 from me.

You have to try to get people to join under you to make your money, they don't focus on selling the product so much, but recruiting warm bodies that have $400. When you sell LYA products, from the get go it is hands off. LYA doesn't deal with the cell phone, cable, satellite, or home security system plans after they are purchased. SO when you have problems or it's not what you paid for, or believed you purchased, you don't have any recourse to be compensated for a bad purchase.

My area leader has stated before to our LYA group that if you have people come to meetings if they don't have $400 or are ready to enroll don't bother bringing them to the "presentation." All in all I ended up spending over $2000 and never saw a dime. Between enrollment fees, monthly website & voicemail fees, conventions fees, forcably purchased marketing tools, meaningless seminars, meeting, and "presentations," this is how LYA REALLY MAKES ITS MONEY.

I was asked to make a list of every single person I knew and could get in contact with. They sat down with me called them to try to recruit them OR get them to purchase LYA products. I alienated every single person they contacted. The people I sold LYA products to hold me accountable for the exorbitant prices they paid, and for the products that never worked properly. This organization is worse than a group of used car salesmen, except the average individual make less money than a used car salesman would.

To top it off I never got a 1099 form so that I could claim my losses.

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#7 Consumer Comment

Put your $$ where your mouths are "SUCCESSFUL" Lightyear Reps!

AUTHOR: Nhyner - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 06, 2012

Okay obo all those interested in joining Lightyear or those who have already joined & have been burned, I have to ask what was your GROSS/TAXABLE income for the past few yrs with Lightyear? Of course pls refrain from giving out too much of your personal info, just ballpark how much did ya make? You see, there's a lot of talk here about how great the products & services offered by this company are & there's also a lot of talk about how much everything's a scam and apparently this company's employees don't get paid or get very little. So to the so called Lightyear Reps or Manager defending this company, "THE PROOFS IN THE PUDDING" so they say, it's time to cough up some proof that you can really make $$ with Lightyear Wireless!! Again, just so there's no misunderstanding pls just give ballpark figures & don't just pull #'s out of your "you know what".. If you have nothing bad to hide then your shouldn't have an issue in answering this question.

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#6 UPDATE Employee

Lightyear is a GREAT Company

AUTHOR: Phil - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 25, 2010

It seems to me your sponsor was the most harmful person in this story, not the company. You obviously do not have network marketing experience, or very little. There is almost no dirt at all on this company, about 99 percent you read on the net is POSITIVE!!  I am a rep and love the company, it has been around for 17 yrs, they must be doing something right.  Keep in mind also, you joined when they JUST got started doing the wireless as a network marketing model, and they were in a learning stage

 Lightyear wireless, the parent company, Lightyear Alliance is used to dealing with mid size companies and small companies, not individuals, they need to learn how to deal with the net work marketing model in their wireless side now, in  which they have come a long way.

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#5 Consumer Comment

Free Phone shipping charge was $6.99

AUTHOR: Mentor78 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 20, 2009

The phones were free, but the company charged $6.99 for shipping. No big deal. The company signed agreements with Verizon and Sprint to wholesale their network. This is the only company to ever have a branded wireless product and pay residuals in network marketing. The company is Free to join. My personal organization is billing over $400,000 per month in PRODUCT REVENUE. That is not in rep fees or anything like that, strictly product revenue. The company's entire revenue and operations are driven off of 100% customer revenue, it's FREE to join, company makes nothing off of rep fees, like other deals.

Check out Lightyear Network Solutions at the Better Business Bureau, you will like what you see. Great ratings, resolves all complaints, issues. Of course, you will always have people like the original poster that just want to make excuses and not use good judgement. Gregg Amerman is a Hack, and was never involved with the company. The company forbade him from doing his trainings, and the "leader" that promoted his trainings was terminated.

This company watches out for their reps. Of course, you can't control everyone's actions that are in the company, but when nonsense occurs in the field, Lightyear fixes it and corrects it. That's why they have been in business for over 15 years and have a rock solid reputation everywhere you look.

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#4 Consumer Comment

How does a free phone cost money?

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 16, 2009

The above rebuttal author claims that he or she got a "free phone for $6.99" and I'm wondering how something that costs money can also be free? Sounds more fishy than ever.

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#3 Consumer Comment

How does a free phone cost money?

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 16, 2009

The above rebuttal author claims that he or she got a "free phone for $6.99" and I'm wondering how something that costs money can also be free? Sounds more fishy than ever.

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#2 Consumer Comment

How does a free phone cost money?

AUTHOR: M - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, January 16, 2009

The above rebuttal author claims that he or she got a "free phone for $6.99" and I'm wondering how something that costs money can also be free? Sounds more fishy than ever.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

I've have had good service with LightYear Network Solutions

AUTHOR: Bluecirclewireless.com - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, December 11, 2008

I am a independant rep. for Lightyear Network Solutions since Dec. of 2004.

First, of all I was at that conference in Kentucky and if you spent a thousands dollars up front it was because you chose to spend that much. I did not spend that much and I was coming from Atlanta. You cannot call this a pyramid scheme because the products are real that I have had great service from VoIP from Lightyear. I have seen checks and have the proof that people do get paid. You cannot start a business and expect to get rich in a years time, but it is possible within 5 years depending on your determination. The business is there and if you can't do the work it will fail. Everything Lightyear teaches is to help you build your business. Also, from what I remember the food was top notch at the Gault Hotel and I did not pay a dime for food.

Lightyear is partners with these cable companys, alarm companys so that reps. can make residual income and the customer service is handled by each company. The company nows enrolls reps. for just $50 a month and has dropped the $399. I got a free wireless phone from Lightyear for $6.99. the phone was at my door step in less than four days coming to GA. There is no deposit, no activation till Jan. and I will get paid on the RESIDUALS over time. So, I believe in this company and if you failed it's because of not following the system (all companys have a system) not what Lightyear has done.

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