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Complaint Review: Manuel's Mercedes - Marietta Georgia

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  • Manuel's Mercedes 1800 Cobb Pkwy S Marietta, Georgia United States of America

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PER the BBB complaint file, Manuel's Mercedes took advantage of a young mother of 4.  The dealership, which specializes in late model Mercedes Benz,  advertised that the $15k vehicle she purchased on about November 5 was in great condition. In fact the advertisement on Craigslist ( Atlanta ) dated about 11/03/2009 for the vehicle read: Great Condition and Road Ready for upcoming holiday travel anywhere


Based on no response and refusal to address this complaint, the Better Business Bureau (BBB)has lowered this company's rating to an "F".  (for BBB complaint history see: http://www.bbb.org/atlanta/business-reviews/auto-dealers-used-cars/manuels-mercedes-in-marietta-ga-10386)


Mercedes Benz has also been notified.


This is her story:



"On Nov 4, 2009 I purchased a 2005 Ford Expedition (Eddie Bauer, 4X2, 5.4)  from Manuel's Mercedes Benz (hereinafter MMB).  I made this purchase in good faith and put down $1999.  During the test drive of the vehicle I heard a slight ticking noise. When I asked about the sound, Rob Warren (MMB Salesman) told me that it was normal and that it was the way All Ford Expeditions sound."  In addition, Rob told me that the carfax was pulled and that the vehicle had been serviced and checked out completely by MMB.  The only issues with the vehicle I clearly recall being disclosed to me upon purchase were:  1) The door did not have a keyless entry for which I agreed to purchase at Ford at my own expense; and 2) the owner's manual was missing, which Rob said he would get for me but to date has not.



Since informing the owner and sales representative at MMB about the problems with my vehicle, I feel that they have been dishonest, willfully misleading, and unethical in their service, sales, and advertisement of the vehicle I purchased.  For instance, the advertisement on 11/03/2009 on Craigslist ( Atlanta ) for the vehicle read:  Great Condition and Road Ready for upcoming holiday travel anywhere (please see exhibit A).  Moreover, the response to the BBB by Mr. Al Lopez is disingenuous and provides further evidence of his companys lack of integrity.  As documented below, I have spoken with Mr. Lopez and his representative(s) on numerous occasions about this issue. Furthermore, during private and *taped conversations, Mr. Lopez not only acknowledged the problems with my vehicle, he agreed to swap it out with one that was comparable to the advertised vehicle I purchased (i.e., 2005 Ford Expedition 4X2, Eddie Bauer  w/80,193k miles)."


 


 Documented History


 


 "Nov 6, 2009 I went to Team Ford of Marietta to have my vehicle programmed for keyless entry. Upon my driving up to the service bay, a technician by the name of Kendall approached me.  Kendall asked me when I bought the vehicle. When I told him I had just purchased the vehicle he told me that I should take the vehicle back to the dealership because the "knocking" sound he heard was not a normal sound.  Furthermore, he told me that it sounded like bad/faulty cam phasers and lifters.  I was taken into the service office where Greg (another Team Ford service tech) printed out a diagram to show me where the cam phasers and lifters were located on the vehicle.


 


          Nov 8 I spoke with Rob (salesman) to find out when MMB would be able to check the vehicle. At this time we set up an appointment for 11/13/2009. Things to be done: diagnostic test, detail the vehicle, and the air duct was to be fix.


          Nov 13 I arrived at MMB to have the services done that were promised. While I waited Rob took the 05 Expedition to their mechanic to run the diagnostic test and fix the air duct. I was told by Rob he could not get the printout of the diagnostic results. It would be on 11/16/2009, also the vehicle didnt get detail.


 


(I sent a certified letter to MMB on 12/ 05/2009)


 


 (Team Ford recommended that I take the vehicle back because a diagnostic from Team Ford would cost $350. Moreover, the cost of repairing/replacing the cam phasers and lifters was almost $3000.00)


Summarily, I stand by my statement that upon my complaints about the vehicle I purchased from Manuels Mercedes Benz, the behavior of the owner and representatives has been, in my opinion, unethical and dishonest.


 


I am a single mother with four children so having a reliable vehicle is crucial in our lives.  I have made numerous attempts to be fair and give Manuel's Mercedes Benz a chance to rectify the issues outlined above. The vehicle condition continues to deteriorate and I am extremely concerned for my family. This is the only transportation we have to rely on. However, the company has not provided a comparable swap, nor even made any attempt to repair my vehicle. Mr. Lopez even refused to provide a loaner car though he is aware that my vehicle is not safe to drive or ROAD READY, which is a definite conflict from his advertisement of the vehicle. Here again is evidence of Manuels Mercedes Benzs deceptive selling and advertising practices. Manuels Mercedes has prior complaints regarding the issues. Within the past twenty-four months all of the complaints are believed to have come from women"



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#3 Author of original report

Way TOO little--WAY TOO LATE!!

AUTHOR: Mic - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 29, 2012

 I often wonder at the motive of anyone taking this long to respond to a report. In this case of the "ex-employee" about two years (???).  Further, it is my understanding that Manuel's Mercedes Benz ("MMB") is either no longer in business or has moved from the location listed. Also, the company is NOT BBB Accredited. Lastly, the ex-employee referenced something about the trade of clothing (??). What relevance does the sell of clothing have to do with a BBB complaint about MMB made by a Consumer(s)? Go figure.  Thus, I will let the readers make up their own minds regarding which of us digressed to a less than factual outline of the matter described in 2010. 

So that we all might have some closure and possible enlightenment of any other issues, I have contacted the following office:

Council of Better Business Bureaus
Attn: Office of the CEO
4200 Wilson Blvd, Ste 800
Arlington, VA 22203-1838
PH# 1 (703) 276-0100
FX# 1 (703) 525-8277

~ Mic

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

inaccurate information / report

AUTHOR: rob - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 28, 2012

Author has embellished story, as well as knowingly provided False information regarding BBB Atlanta ratings for this well established Atlanta company. The BBB rates Manuels an A+; there were not four complaints from women. While I was still at the company, she slipped and told me she had driven the Expedition several thousand miles. I feel so strongly the Expeditions are good, solid, safe and reliable family vehicles, that I  sold yet another 2005 eddie Bauer Expedition to a neighbor, who is still driving it with well over 105k miles! This same woman  became irritated that I did not purchase her son's used jeans and sneakers, which were not the type my sons would wear. I would appreciate my last name being removed from this report, to protect my privacy. Thank you.

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BBB, Lies, More Lies, & Coverups

AUTHOR: Mic - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 09, 2010

Basically, the company involved ("MMS") never made an attempt to resolve the issue. MMS lied to the consumer. And, they failed to even contact BBB even after being warned that the case would be closed and it could hurt their rating. When the case closed they were given an "F" rating. Low and behold, the BBB re-opens the case. The company says they will contact the consumer. Did they? NO. Did the consumer tell this to BBB? Yes. Does the consumer have evidence of her interaction with BBB? YES. Would they BBB have reopened the case for the consumer? Hmmmmm, me thinks NOT!!


Our advice to BBB is:  "Stop lying and covering up for these businesses and allowing them to CHEAT CONSUMERS!!"


Below is our complaint on behalf of the consumer to the BBB Council--which , as of 2/9/10, is currently closed due to inclement whether in the Washington DC area.


The Council of Better Business Bureaus


4200 Wilson Blvd, Suite 800 Arlington, 


VA 22203-1838


Dear BBB Council:


   On 12/04/09, after making exhaustive efforts to resolve an issue with an auto dealer, Ms. Keyoshi Hill filed a complaint against the dealership (Manuels Mercedes Sales MMS) with BBB Atlanta, GA ("BBB"). The complaint included repair and advertising issues. Ms. Hill was thorough and timely, meeting every deadline set by BBB ahead of time. However, after numerous attempts by the BBB to resolve the issue with MMS, the company failed to respond to the BBB at all. The case was closed on 1/15/10 by BBB and the company was given an "F" rating.


   BBB re-opened the case on 1/25/10 at the request of the auto company, which promised to contact Ms. Hill. They did not. MMS only contacted the BBB with concerns about the F rating. However, the BBB gave this company a B rating and administratively closed the case. It is now an A- rating. Below is the official report on BBB.org:


Repair Issues


Administratively Closed 1 - BBB determined that despite the company's reasonable effort to address complaint issues, the consumer remained dissatisfied.


This is not only an outright falsehood, it is outrageous that the BBB advocates for better business practices and then does something like this to a single mother of four who did everything by BBB's guidelines! Ms. Hill even sent a certified letter to MMS on 12/05/09. This was before she had even contacted BBB. On the other hand, MMS can not show any proof that they responded, or attempted to get back in touch with Ms. Hill after the case was re-opened!


Further, where is BBBs correspondence to Ms. Hill showing that MMS attempted to resolve this matter or contact her? MMS failed to contact BBB from about the middle of December 2009 until the end of January 2010. BBB provided Ms. Hill with documentation showing their numerous efforts to contact MMS by telephone, email, and US Postal Mail. If MMS ignored BBB, why would BBB take their word that they attempted to contact Ms. Hill?


Ms. Hill also taped conversations she had with MMS previous to her complaint with BBB. She informed the BBB representative about the taping in writing. Moreover, the BBB representative told Ms. Hill from the beginning that MMS seemed deceptive and inferred that they had other complaints against them for taking advantage of other consumers; especially females. Ms. Hill was told by BBB to come in strong in presenting her case. She did. My finding is that BBB has knowingly posted a false statement against this consumer. BBBs own reports show that the MMS DID NOT respond to them, or the consumer. It also shows that Ms. Hill contacted the BBB representative almost daily by telephone or email to see if MMS had responded because she wanted her vehicle repaired or swapped out as promised by MMS.


Someone at BBB needs to do the right thing toward this young mother of four and not just give her the run-around! This is not how you make business better! BBBs actions seem to show that MMS does not have a majority on deceptive and dishonest business practices.


Mic, Advocate


micbowie@cableone.net

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