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Complaint Review: Mark Bott Operation KidSafe International - Springfield Illinois

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  • Reported By: Former Employee — California USA
  • Mark Bott Operation KidSafe International 1207 South 8th Street Springfield, Illinois USA

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Operation KidsSafe  is a business located in Springfield Illinios.  The owner is Mark  Bott.  I decided to submit a letter to rip off report because I worked for his company doing business to business calls and never got paid.  I thought I was doing go work helping to protect children, but I was used by this "man" Here is how his model worked....

I worked as a telemarketer from home.  I paid $15x3 to have access to his lead database called FreshSales (https://operationkidsafe.freshsales.io/signin) for three months.  I assumed that I would definitly make my initial invesment back within a few weeeks.  He will have you calling Credit Unions, Car Dealerships,  Dental and Orthodontic offices across the country telemarketing and advetising his business.  During my initial training call with him he asked me if I had 5 hrs per day to commit to this job.  It all seemed legit when I decided to come on board.  He said I would need to make 45-50 calls per day to ensure 3 or more sales per week.  You don't call on the

weekends.  Well I was sure to make the number of calls per day.  I did that 5 days a week for 3 weeks and saw no results.  I went into my second month of doing this and still nothing.  So I amped up my work output and did 60 calls per day.  Towards the end of my second month I called the office and spoke with someone call Mary Anne to ask if I had any sales.  She said " No I don't see any email responces from the email you sent.  You don't have any sales yet. You know you will send out these emails and the leads are so busy they might open it and not respond or it may go into the spam folder. "  Little did I know she was feeding me lies....  I didn't know what to think so I went back to

my past called leads and noticed that some of the ones I called were no longer on my online list in Freshsales!  I went to my hard copy list and compared them to what I saw online and I was missing 15 leads that I called!  So I decided to call back all of my leads that I spoke to and emailed information.  I got in contact with 8 out of the 15 missing leads and they told me they had already picked event dates and submitted  contracts!!  They said they spoke with someone at the office already and were in the process of preparing for thier upcomming KidSafe event!!!  I was beyond livid! That's over $1000 I was not paid! I never saw a dime from all the hard work I put in to this job.

 I called the office back to inquire again and was told that I did not have any sales.  This company is a big scam because Mark Bott  has you pay to work with him.  Mark Bott will say you have acces to leads, a messaging system that keeps you connected to overyone in the office, and you will be able to see when a company responds to any emails you send out.  Maryanne and MArk BotT will sound very cheery , plesant , and nice over the phone but the are only taking such a tone to make it easier to lie to you!  They are dishonest people point blank!  

The thing is Mark Bott will have you calling to countless business to advertise his product and have you send out emails using kidsafe2016@gmail.com but you don't have access to any responce emails.  When you initially call to inquire about the job he will tell you that you have acess to email responces but he is flat out lying to you.  He will tell you that you will have the ability to message other telemarketers and office personell but after you pay for the acces and do the training he will revoke such acces in the database.  All you will be able to do is make calls, send emails, and  update contact info that the office personell will use the thier advantage!!   You never see any correspondance so you don't know WHAT they are telling these businesses! 

I want everyone to know that if you are considering working for Mark Bott as a work from home telemarketer or doing business with him by hosting a KidsSafe event DO NOT DO IT!  He is not a honest person.  His buisness practices are very shady.  He doesn't treat his telemarkerting contracters with any type of respect and uses them for free labor by promessing to pay you when you get a sale but his office personell will take you hot leads and sales and you will never know it because you don't have access to the emails.    DON'T WORK FOR HIM HE WILL USE YOU AND NEVER PAY YOU!!!

THE FACT THAT MARK BOTT IS OPERATING BUSINESS UNDER THE GUISE OF HELPING CHILDREN IS PRETTY SICK TO ME!!

 A PERSON LIKE MARK BOTT WHO DOES BUSINESS IN SUCH A LOW BROW FASHION SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM CHILDREN!!

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#3 UPDATE Employee ..inside information

Regional Director for over 13 years

AUTHOR: Mark Agnew - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, September 21, 2017

I have personally worked for Operation Kidsafe for over 13 years now, and have NEVER had any problems getting paid, having leads stolen from me, nor have any instances of dishonesty from the owner and founder of Operation Kidsafe Mark Bott. There have been many employees come to work for us in the 13+ years that I have been with the company and amny of them are no longer with us. But it's not because of anything that Mark has done. It is the simple fact that this is not a job for everyone. When working from home it takes a self-motivated person to be successful and profitable and there are not very many people that can do that. There are distractions at home which can cause a person to not be successful. 

It is sad that a person who was given a chance has to write something bad about Mark Bott and Operation Kidsafe because that person was not successful. The $45 that a person pays has nothing to do with us. That is the fee that  the company has to pay for each employee to use the CRM called Freshsales for 90 days. We tell them that they will get that $45 fee back as soon as they make their first sale. We also tell them that if they stay with us for 90 days then we will continue to pay their CRM fee for them for the duration if the time that they stay with the company.

There have been many employees come to work for Operation Kidsafe, but I can tell you that I know for sure that there has NEVER been anyone named Mary Anne work for us. So for the person that started this horrible accusation about Mark Bott and Operation Kidsafe to say they spoek with "Mary Anne" then I 'm sorry but you are mistaken. Not only that, there has never been a Mary, Marianne, Mary Kay, Mary Alice, Marion or anything that is even close to a Mary. 

I will close by saying that I absolutely love my position with Operation Kidsafe and will be here until I retire. The work that we have done by working with sponsors to safeguard the children of their communities is work that I am proud of!

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Operation Kidsafe NOT A SCAM!!!

AUTHOR: anonymous - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, September 21, 2017

THIS IS IN REBUTTAL TO THE PREVIOUS EMPLOYEE..I HAVE WORKED WITH OPERATION KIDSAFE FOR OVER 4 YEARS AND AM NOW THEIR REGIONAL MANAGER. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN PAID AS SOON AS CLIENT PAYS OFFICE, I HAVE NEVER AND I REPEAT NEVER BEEN LIED TO OR NOT BEEN PAID..ALWAYS IN MY PAYPAL WHEN HE SAYS IT IS AND ALWAYS VALID. IN THIS POSITION AND i TOO CALL FROM HOME, I FOCUS ON AUTOMOTIVE DEALERSHIPS AND NOT EVERY TELEMARKETER IS CUT OUT FOR THIS TYPE OF WORK. THE OWNERS OF THE BUSINESSES YOU CALL DO NOT HAVE OUR EVENTS ON THEIR PRIORITY LISTS, IN ORDER TO ATTAIN SALES YOU MAKE AS MANY CALLS AS YOU CAN ONE DAY, THE NEXT DAY, YOU RE-CALL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM TO SEE IF THEY HAD SEEN THE EMAIL IF YOU SENT ONE, IF YOU DIDNT GET AN EMAIL BECAUSE YOU DIDNT KNOW HOW TO GET PAST A GATE KEEPER THEN YOU TRY AND REACH THEM AGAIN AND LEAVE THEM ANOTHER MESSAGE. THERE ARE WEEKS THAT THERE ARE NO SALES, LIKE ANY OTHER SALES BUSINESS, GOOD DAYS AND BAD DAYS, BUT THE NEXT WEEK MIGHT HAVE SEVERAL SALES AND  YOU CAN MAKE A LOT OF MONEY. SEASON HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT AS WELL..HOLIDAYS ARE TOUGH AS OWNERS ARE USUALLY NOT AROUND.

AS FOR EMAILS BEING SENT A LOT OF THEM GO INTO A SPAM/JUNK FILE AND THE PERSON YOU SENT THEM TO NEVER SAW THEM, SOME DONT EVEN LISTEN TO EMAILS, SO ITS UP TO EACH "CALLER' TO BE DILIGENT IN GETTING BACK TO EVERY SINGLE ONE THEY CALLED..THATS WHERE THE SALES COME FROM. WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF DEALERSHIPS THAT RENEW YEAR AFTER YEAR AND SOME THAT HAVE BEEN WITH US 14 OF THE 16 YEARS..MARK BOTT IS THE MOST DEDICATED CHILD ADVOCATE I HAVE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF NOT ONLY KNOWING BUT WORKING WITH AND FOR..OUR EVENTS BRING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER, NEW RELATIONSHIPS FOR ALL INVOLVED. JUST BECAUSE YOU CALL SOMEONE, AGAIN TO THE EMPLOYEE..AND LEAVE A MESSAGE DOESNT GUARANTEE A SALE, ITS WHAT YOU SAY, HOW YOU SAY IT, YOUR FOLLOW UP, YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING. I HAVE MADE ONE CALL AND HAD A RETURN CALL THAT SIGNED UP WITHIN 10 MIN AND I HAVE CALLED 40 A DAY RECALLING ALL 40 NEXT DAY AND NOT HAD A SALE IN AN ENTIRE WEEK..THEY ARE BUSY PEOPLE THAT WE CALL..THEY HAVE THEIR OWN AGENDAS AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET ONE TO SIGN UP..BUT TO SAY MARK AND STAFF ARE DISHONEST IS THE MOST INSANE THING I HAVE EVER SEEN.

.I TRUST THIS MAN, THIS COMPANY TOTALLY AND AM PROUD TO SAY I AM A PART OF IT..OBVIOUSLY THIS EMPLOYEE HAD NO IDEA HOW TO SELL THESE EVENTS OR TO PROPERLY FOLLOW UP ON THE CALLS..THERE IS A METHOD THAT WORKS, MINE DOES..HERS DID NOT..ALL HER CONVERSATIONS ARE IN THE FRESHSALES NOTES IF INDEED YOU PUT NOTES IN, DATED AND IN DETAILS SO WHEN YOU CALL BACK YOU CAN SEE YOU NEVER GOT AN EMAIL OR DIDNT LEAVE A MESSAGE...

OPERATION KIDSAFE HAS ONE GOAL AND ONE GOAL ONLY..TO GET SAFETY INFORMATION COMPILED BY MARK AND LAW ENFORCEMENT INTO EACH COMMUNITY SO THAT MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, THEY WILL NEVER HAVE TO REPORT A LOST OR STOLEN CHILD OR USE THE BIO DOCUMENTS WE PROVIDE THAT TRIGGER THE AMBER ALERT AND BY THE WAY MARK ALONG WITH JOHN WALSH OF AMERICAS MOST WANTED WERE ON THE PANEL THAT GOT THE AMBER ALERT PASSED..SO THAT IN ITSELF SPEAKS VOLUMES FOR MARK.  THERE IS NOTHING IN THAT NASTY REPORT OTHER THAN AN EMPLOYEE THAT DIDNT KNOW WHAT SHE/OR HE WAS DOING..IN 16 YEARS WE HAVE SAFEGUARDED OVER 1 MILLION CHILDREN AND HAVE THOUSANDS!! OF SPONSORS THAT HAVE LOVED THE EVENT AND RENEW OVER AND OVER...TRUST THIS MAN..TRUST THIS COMPANY...WE ARE ALL ABOUT CHILDREN..THERE IS NOT A SHRED OF TRUTH IN ANYTHING THAT WAS WRITTEN..AGAIN I HAVE BEEEN WITH THIS COMPANY FOR OVER 4 YEARS

DONT TAKE THE WORD OF ONE DISGRUNTLED EMPLOYEE OVER THOUSANDS OF EVENTS, HAPPY SPONSORS AND KNOW THAT WE ARE ABOUT CHILDREN..NOT DECEIPT OR LIES...FIRST RESPONDERS ARE ALSO ALWAYS INVOLVED IN OUR EVENTS SO THE CHILDREN CAN SEE THEY ARE THE GOOD GUYS TO TURN TO IF NEED BE..

I STAND BY THIS COMPANY 100 NO MAKE THAT 120% AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM TILL I CAN NO LONGER PICK UP A PHONE.

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#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company

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AUTHOR: Mark Bott - (United States)

POSTED: Saturday, July 29, 2017

In 16 years Operation Kidsafe has safeguarded over one million children.  I am Mark Bott and I am the founder of the program.

This is 100 % news to me.  This person has never complained to our company.  We do not have a Mary Anne that works for us.  

I was able to review our entire year and any clients that purchased had a rep and those reps were paid.

I would love to defend this more but i guess I will let the people reviewing do the math.  We have been in business 16 long years and this is the 1st compliant of this nature registered.

We also do not have any horrible stories from clients online... You would think after thousands of events there would be a couple and there is not.

Calling businesses is a tough job.   This person could not have been at it long as they mentioned freshsales a new crm that we went with about two months ago.

If any of this were true they would have called our company and addressed this.  I certainly am there everyday and our reputation is clean and clear.

In this type of format anyone with a bone or fake bone to pick can remain annonomous. This person is welcome to contact me at anytime to support any of these aligations and I know i can simply answer them as they are not true.

Thanks,

Mark Bott

Founder

Operation Kidsafe International

 

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