Complaint Review: Michael Force - Miami Florida
- Michael Force Miami, FL Miami, Florida USA
- Category: Internet Marketing Companies
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This report is to explain my experience with Michael Force (internet marketing & entrepreneur) formerly of Carbon Copy Pro and Pro U.
I've been in the onlin marketing world and have assisted thousands of people with marketing training, entrepreneur training, and personal development training for over 3 years now...
When I first got online, I started with an educational marketing company / direct sales company known as Carbon Copy Pro where Michael Force was a prominent figure and a leading 7-figure earner that was extremely well respected and for many of the right reasons.
Later that year, the company began to struggle and I imagine the leaders (Michael Force) included probably began seeing a decline in their monthly profits and try as they might to fix the issues with the system it only made matter worse and within that year the company would unfortunatley dissolve.
Without a doubt, Michael Force is a smart and savvy businessman and I got to personally speak with him both on the phone and in person (at industry events) -- he's someone that I'd even wager to say I called a friend and someone I looked upto for quite some time.
During the regress, my business partner and I approached Michael with an idea that would turn our business model into an investment vehicle that we believe could be EXTREMELY profitable and after many months of planning, designing, and more we were ready to begin and implement our strategy.
The idea was simple enough, we'd pay Michael Force $10,000 to drive what is known in the industry as "media buy" traffic to the offer, we'd let Michael do we he does best, which is close front-end deals, and split the profits based on our agreed amount.
In April of 2012, we wired Michael Force this money and little did we know that he had also accumulated about $200,000 for this "media buy" or said otherwise co-op structure to drive traffic.
Bottom line is, we never saw one lead from this money. Nor did (to the best of my knowledge) the other people who invested their money, trust, and faith in Michael Force to deliver these promised leads.
Michael simply took the money and ran with it. During this time period, when the leads did not come we'd often approach Micahael and ask about where are leads were via phone / email /text and were met with hostility. He'd often revert to calling us "dumb" or "not understanding how business worked" and took liberty in belittling us with every communication.
Once he started doing this we began asking for our money back and Michael at first insisted this was possible and again calling us name and things that I won't discuss in great detail here, but let's say I have at least 25 to 30 of these sytle emails...he also thought it prudent to put down every leader in the company including the company owner which he would later come back to and beg to work with again...I know this, because I was there as he texted the owner of the company who actually is a very good friend.
In short, he made countless excuses, demeaned us and stole $10,000 at a time when we honestly did not have $10,000 to lose (I mean who likes losing $10k at any point in time), but this was like a dagger to the chest at the time and we literaly had to start from ground zero because of him.
In the mean time he was travelling to Paris with his family and basically living on our dime. Eventually he agreed to the refund, but guess what...? All we got were empty promises and never saw a penny.
About a year and half later, he finally sent us $2,500 and told us to expect similiar payment each month and that he is doing us a favor by returning the money. In his mind, going bankrupt meant that all your liabilities were whiped clean...but failed to see that I'm not a bank and I'm not a liability. I'm just someone who trusted him and he took advantage of that. I heard simlilar stories from other member who he took up to $80,000 from (and again, the emails to prove all of this). So if he should retort this message and I expect him with fanciful language, please email me directly as he is completely full of $hit.
He never responds to any emails request or phone calls and we've pretty much given up. Right now he's back in the industry working with Matt LLoyd's company and they are touting him on stage as a guru of sorts. Which honestly he is, but given his lack of integrity and disgusting past, I'm sure with a little vetting they'd never have done that and in a way I pity him because he lost big, but that doesn't excuse his actions or taking advantage of people.
I'm writing this now, almost 2 years after the initial incident, because I saw him talking on stage for a leading company in the industry and this made my stomach turn...it's disgusting. I also see on his Faceboook page that he's travelling with his family all over the world -- which means that he's probably making money again, but I have yet to see another penny.
I think he thinks that he got away clean with this one, but we're in the process of taking legal action and given the amount of time he's had to build his business back up, he's complete absence in communicatoin, I look forward to suing him for WAY more than the $10,000 he initially owed, plus damages and defemation.
I wouldn't work with this man, not because he isn't an incredible businessman, but because all he cares about is money (even if he tells you that it's about you), and he lacks anything that resembles integrity or honesty.
Michael cares about Michael (and his family I imagine)...that's where it ends. I listened to him talk about community for years and it was all BS. Forget the fact that he single handidly took down one fo the best companies in the entire online marketing industry by blatently lying to all the leaders in the company and cutting off communication between them and the company owner without the owners knowledge.
There's a laundry list of nasty crapt his man has done. I wouldn't work with Michael Force and I urge you to heed my warning.
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