National Health Care Discount Aka NHCD Fun With Words--LMAO! Overland Park Kansas

So glad to see you response to S....This must be a new employee who probably has faith in the company as we all did, but in time S will find out the truth about this scam. I am the person who worked for NHCD twice, had faith twice, and of course scammed twice. I still can't believe how naive I was.I'm in my 50's, not a kid, and was still scammed.I was a recruiter and I just couldn't lie to new potentially employees, most of which were mom's who wanted a "Real Work At Home" job to raise their children.

Of course, at one time I wanted to work for NHCD for the same reason. Yes, we did get our checks on time, but when S discovers all the returns, doesn't produce what is required, cut off from the server... S will feel differently.Of course we spoke live to our Managers, but that is only for motivation.S will get burnt as we all did.And you,Ex Manager of L.A. no we all worked over and beyond our hours. In case S replies that I am also on some company's clock time, I will tell you now,I am not. S should also realize there are 53 posts, give or take, about NHCD, most of which are disappointed employees, S should realize we are just hoping potentially new employees will find this website and read the posts.

Bye the way S I think you are on NHCD's company time or you wouldn't have even come to this website, read and reply if you are suppose to be working and producing with NHCD.
Broward,FL

Why is it you can't acknowledge what happens with this company? In your hardened greedy little hearts you know I'm telling the truth. Nothing I've posted has been exaggerated and if you are a current manager S--or is it SB--hmmm I wonder---then your mind is too clouded with that giant paycheck you're getting from the poor seniors on fixed incomes and hard working "hires" to care what's really happening. You've already been completely brainwashed by NHCD. There are very few manager's I talk to who still work with this "vile" company and think it's a great working environment. And those are the ones with the giant paychecks, lying to their reps and threatening their managers.

And according to S, I just made all this up and post to this report solely for my own amusement with no fact base supporting me. What a joke. Everytime someone pops on here to try and cut me down it simply gives me strength. This proves to me that I'm rattling cages in Overland Park and that is entirely my goal. And if I wasn't telling the truth and making an impact, my posts would be forgotten. So spew your hatred employees and build me up some more. At least I can go to sleep at night with a clear conscience.

Oh, and S? I do exist, I did work for NHCD, and I'm not on my companies' clock when I post.

Dear Ex-Manager from Los Angeles. Since I have been with the company, I have never heard of a manger from Los Angeles. I don't think there was one before I started either. You are a fake and probably are on your other company's clock while you write your vile.

Joe, you've got to be new man!! Just curious, how long have you worked for NHCD? Are you a manager?

Nothing discussed here is "propoganda" as you put it. Everything from the "inside" comes from well documented manager's meetings (I'm not going to tell you how it's done) but if you aren't a manager, you have no way of knowing whether my statements are true.

I never said you wouldn't get a paycheck. But if you're in leads, you will get deductions for returns, and you won't get a check if you make less than $15 that week or if you submit your hours incorrectly. Then you'll most likely be deactivated once your returns are too high or if you miss logging hours. Think about it, you are most likely an independent contractor, you shouldn't have to log hours. I think that will be my next topic of conversation but not in this post. And NHCD isn't even close to the best work from home opportunity out there.

And you forget, I was a manager, I'm not disgruntled, I'm just trying to help people. You wouldn't believe the emails I get from people that wished they had listened to me before signing on with this company, and the emails I get thanking me for helping them.
That's all for now, I'm too busy rolling over in fits of laughter!!

Don't fall for a company that mails you a check like clock work as long as you're "working" and "producing"! My check arrives on time and correct every week!

Don't fall for a company who has been with the BBB for over fifteen years and is in good standing! What does the stinking BBB know about business anyway??

Don't fall for a company who has two web addresses so that the information they provide is easily accessible! Also, it's a bit shady that NHCD made their website easier to navigate and much more informative!! What are they up to????

Don't fall for a company who calls you back promptly for an interview. Personally, if a company calls me back in less than a month there's no way that I'm taking that job!! When I'm looking for a job my motto is "the longer it takes to call me back for an interview the better!!"

Don't fall for a company who doesn't make you go through a bunch of red tape only to send you an email saying "your application is on file". My thought on this is that only people who can talk on the phone should be accepted into the entry level position of lead rep. Also, a five page minimum resume complete with references should be submitted. This way the personnel department can be sure that the candidate is able to talk on the phone.

Don't fall for a company who changed the name of one of their departments from "recruiting" to "personnel"! Do you think that maybe the reason for this change is that the word "recruiting" describes a company whos sole purpose is recruiting, while the word "personnel" describes a department within a company whos responsibility is the hiring of people to work within said company? A company changing a department name, what a scam!!

Finally, and pay attention to this one,
Don't fall for the angry and rarely true words of disgruntled ex employees who feel it necessary to make an attempt unsuccessfully to destroy the most popular, successful and "legit" work from home career available! They are jealous of the fact that some people can cut the mustard and make a great living. While they themselves find the time to peruse the Internet spreading their lies and propaganda! The purpose of course is destroying a company where they could not achieve in the manner that they thought they should be able to, another way of saying this is that they "failed". "If ya can't join em, beat em"!

"Don't fall for it gang"! A dictator to me is somebody whom thrills at having control of a group such as a "gang", delights at the thought of destroying stability and will spare no cruel words or dastardly deeds to accomplish the ultimate goal of said destruction. Also, one Who has spy's on the inside providing up to date information (usually exaggerating this information into propaganda) for the purpose of furthering their own agenda...sound familiar? Ex - Manager, please excuse me if I don't salute.

I have written several times before. Everyone beware. NHCD AKA National Health Care Discount also has a web address as www.flutternet.com
I am an ex-employee of the company two times. If you type in the address www.workfromhomeparents.com it will bring you to the company. Then I discovered typing in
www.flutternet.com also brings you into the NHCD's website. Anyone applying for the work at home scam beware, Do Not Work For This Company. They keep changing their website address to keep everyone hopping. All reports here written by ex-employees and ex-managers know what they are talking about. I also worked for NHCD twice. My second time around was even worse than the first.All this company wants to do is take your money and make it sound like an honest work at home job...Believe me it is ony big Scam and also a pyramid which NHCD denies.The only people making money are Grant and other big wheels. Beware please read everything about NHCD on this website. We have all been there and hurt thinking this was a good work at home job for our family.When I worked for NHCD their only website was www.workfromhomeparents.com Now there are several. The www.flutternet.com address blew me away. Just trying to help new employees from getting into this scam.

Alicia,

I'm not going to get into back-stabbing or debating with you. I will simply say this: You obviously didn't read that post. I was obviously not in favor of any of the actions described, nor was I saying anything anti-semitic. Grant Wilms is the one calling the shots and he is doing exactly what's been described. Please read it and digest what's being said. Do not start calling names when you don't know what you're talking about. I have personal knowledge of anti-semitism and simply applying a correlation to past facts does not imply anything directly or indirectly to the Jewish population. Look up the definition of anti-semitism for me ok? This is the only time I will respond to anything this ignorant.

And to Mr. Opstein, I apologize for any offense taken from this post.

Whoever you are, you've gone too far. As a former manager you would know that the sole owner of NHCD, Kenneth Opstein, is Jewish.

You must be a very unkind, hurtful person.