Complaint Review: Nations Choice Mortgage, Fisher Financial Group Incorporated - Gilbert Arizona
- Nations Choice Mortgage, Fisher Financial Group Incorporated 3303 E. Baseline Road, Building 7, Suite 118 Gilbert, Arizona U.S.A.
- Phone: 480-461-1111
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- Category: Mortgage Companies
Nations Choice Mortgage, Fisher Financial Group Incorporated Bad Faith, Misrepresentation, Questionable Business Ethics on Mortgage Refinance, Poor Customer Service and Bait-n-Switch Tactics Gilbert Arizona
*Consumer Suggestion: Origination fees are a rip off.
*Consumer Suggestion: Mortgages in todays Market.
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I had started a refinance process with Nations Choice Mortgage in late-November 2006. Their Senior Loan Officer worked with me taking my $350 for an appraisal, completing the loan documents, providing a Good faith Estimate (GFE) with the terms and loan rate clearly stated, and subsequently telling me my loan had been approved. Right up to the point of signing, I had every indication that the terms I had been quoted and agreed upon were to be the final terms. At the point just before (a day or so) in signing the refinance, the loan officer then told me that some of the terms had changed, this was in January 2007. Note that any delays incurred to this date were solely due to the mortgage company, loan officer on vacation during the holidays, and I had met every obligation presented to me in a timely manner. These new terms were presented to me by stating I would accept a 0.50% origination fee (additional $2,525.00) or the loan could not be processed at the rate originally agreed upon. I stated this was a clear misrepresentation and a bait-n-switch by changing the terms at the very end, when I had committed to this loan.
Then came the Branch Manager for Nations Choice Mortgage to save the day. He was understanding and willing to make this work, then when we agreed on a GFE that met my needs, he quickly came back changing the terms of the loan (changing the payoff amount and loan amount). His excuse was that he was unaware of a cash-out restriction, even though he was processing my loan as a cash out the entire time. He also suggested and provided me a document in writing stating that the 2.5% loan origination fee (at $12,580) could be refunded directly back to me by Nations Choice Mortgage thereby accomodating my "cash-back" need. This was a new provision of the GFE when he started working with me. He even provided me a letter on their stationary signed (dated 1/17/07) to that fact, and guaranteed that payment to occur immediately after signing. Other lenders stated that this was a questionable business practice and might violate RESPA standards. I rejected his newly changed terms for two reasons, first it did not meet my refinance goal, and secondly because too much of my loan was based on a good faith effort on their part, and to date Nations Choice Mortgage has not proven that reliability to me.
There's got to be some recourse for the misrepresentation, deceipt, questionable business ethics and lost opportunity I experienced at the hands of Nations Choice Mortgage? Well, you'd think so, but here I am still in search for a refinance with rates much higher and a sour experience with a lender. can you trust anyone again?
Note that Nations Choice Mortgage is owned by Chad Fisher who is listed as the owner of Fisher Financial Group Incorporated through the Arizona Secretary of State's Office. Therefore, it is accurate to assume that Nations Choice Mortgage is affiliated with the Fisher Financial Group Inc.
The harm done to me has been the loss of opportunity when rates were at a very competitive level in late November, and the time they wasted resulting in no loan product and a loss of time and $350. There is a financial impact as the cash buy-out would have erased debt that I am still incurring interest on and the competitive rate I could have secured is no longer available without significant cost to myself. When dealing with Nations Choice Mortgage and/or Fisher Financial Group Inc. all I can say is BUYER BEWARE! I truly wish I would have read the other report(s) on this site reflecting Nations Choice Mortgage as they would have provided an insight into their questionable business practices and un-reliable service history.
Kevin
Rancho Cucamonga, California
U.S.A.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion
Origination fees are a rip off.
AUTHOR: Nikki - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 10, 2007
Origination fees are a rip off. I went to 5 different mortgage brokers and bankers when I refinanced 2 months ago. They told me not to shop around, but I did it anyway and it didn't change my score, at all, from company to company. Each time I went to a new company, they told me my credit score. It was the same among all of them. By the way, it took me about 1 month to shop around.
I found one company that wanted to charge me a $14,000+ origination fee. I ended up dealing directly with Chase. I had no origination fees, but I did have about $8000 in points. That ended up being OK because the points bought down my interest rate and are tax deductible. I'm not sure if origination fees are.
Hmmm, $14,000+ in origination fees and a higher interest rate, or $8000 in points and a lower rate? No brainer. The only upfront fee I had to pay was to the appraiser. It seems the appraisers want their money right away, rather than waiting for the mortgage company to send it.
Unfortunately for you, interest rates may be worse then they were in November. In addition, interest rates and terms were worse in January than they were in November. So, whatever you were offered in November were no longer available by January. I don't know if you would have any recourse because it was their fault it took so long. Mine took about 10 days.
I wish you luck!

#1 Consumer Suggestion
Mortgages in todays Market.
AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 10, 2007
3 things no reputable bank or broker will do.
1. Ask for money up front. The reason for this? If your bank is getting you an approval prior to "quoting" rates and fee's they should have faith in their own knowledge and ability to fund a loan and what the terms will be of that financial transaction. As a professional in less than 5 minutes I know exactly what products a client will qualify for. I still refuse to quote fee's until I recieve documents backing up what they told me.
2. Non refundable fee's. There are a few (note FEW) reputable banks out there that charge application fee's that are non refundable. My recommendation is some SMALL fee's loan application 350 (if your not paying for an appraisal) Rate lock fee's (if your not paying for an appraisal) are normal.
3. Find lenders that are a member of the Better Business Bureau and maintaining an acceptable or better reputation. Remember if something sounds too good to be true. It probably is. Bottom line is that banking and mortgages is not a magical mysterious business. It is based on security backed bonds. This means that all the banks will roughly be on the same page. Some may accept a loan where others may not but there is no magical solution that will save you thousands of dollars. Find someone that is honest and professional. That is the only guarantee you will be treated appropriately.


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