Price Point Of Traverse City Ripoff, liars, sold me a truck a new it had problems. Traverse City Michigan

We sell very few as-is used cars at Price Point in Traverse City.  Sometimes, however, we have trade-in vehicles that we like to offer to our guests who are on a tight budget and desire economical transportation.  We do not perform a thorough inspection of our as-is vehicles but do make sure that things such as brakes and lights are in working order. 

All used cars at Bill Marsh Price Point on US 31 or Garfield road in Traverse City and in Kalkaska come with a five-day money back guarantee.  You may bring back any used car you buy for any reason, or no reason at all within 5 days.

We enchorage all of our guests to have the as-is vehicle inspected by their mechanic before they buy.  The owners of Bill Marsh authored the following form, which is each as-is buyer signs, to be up-front about as-is vehicle purchases at Bill Marsh Price Point:

To Our Valued Customers: Price Point Used Car Super Center does not want you to purchase this as-is vehicle if you are under the impression that there is any warranty on it.  As soon as you take delivery of this vehicle, all repairs will be soley your responsibility.  We enchorage you to take this as-is vehicle and have it inspected at your expense by an outside source before you decide to purchase it.  Our intention is to be up-front with you about your as-is purchase.  Please sign below that you have read and understand the conditions of your as-is purchase...

The Five Day Money Back Guarantee form signed at time of delivery states: Bill Marsh Automotive Group Agrees to refund the entire purchase price of this vehicle for up to five days from the date of delivery at the buyers request subject to the following conditions... 1) 500 miles from the odometer reading at the time of delivery. 2) Any evidence of vehicle damage resulting from accident abuse or unreasonable wear and tear will automatically nullify this guarantee.  This includes, but not limited to, body or interior trim damage, cigarette burns, door dents, broken or cracked glass, tire damage or off-road use. 3) Vehicles with a snow plow or for commercial use are excluded from this guarantee.

Lastly, there is an 'Understanding of Non-Warranty Sale' form all of our as-is guests read and sign: It is herby understood by the purchaser and the seller, Price Point Used Car Super Center, that the vehicle described above is sold in an 'as-is' condition with no warranty either express or implied, including any implied warranty of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose, and Price Point Used Car Super Center, neither assumes nor authorizes anyone to assume for it any liability in connection with the sale of the vehicle.

The Bill Marsh Automotive Group, including the Price Point Used Car Super Senter, has been in business for over 25 years in Traverse City, MI.  We have positioned ourselves to be the focal point for customer service in northern Michaigan.  Our open, fair, up-front and honest way of doing business attracts not only happy and loyal customers but also dedicated, hard-working and professional employees.  Before, or after, you venture out to test drive cars at other dealerships, we invite anyone reading this to stop by the Price Point Used Car Super Center on US 31 Traverse City, Bill Marsh Hyundai right next door, Bill Marsh GMC Buick Chrysler Dodge Jeep & Price Point on Garfield in Traverse City or Bill Marsh Ford Chrysler Dodge Jeep & Price Point in Kalkaska.

Mary,
I feel for you. I bought my last car from Price Point of NY in Vestal, NY. Granted this was February 2001, I still had trouble. I bought a 1995 Nissan Maxima with 89,000 miles. It seemed like a really clean car. It came with an extended warranty, et el. However, the check engine light was on. They sent the car to Miller Nissan in Vestal to have the oxygen sensor(s) replaced. The car was in the shop for 3 WEEKS!!! The repair was temporary, and the light came back on. I don't even recall the car having a current inspection before I bought it (those of you from NY, PA, NJ and VA know what I am talking about). I had the new(er) car bug, and went with the deal anyway. BIG MISTAKE. This ended up being the single worst car I have ever owned. I just recently sold it with 168,000 miles for $1000. Unfortunately, Price Point was owned by Alexander Auto Group in Williamsport, PA. I never had satisfaction of a good operating car that I bought from one of their dealers. Price Point then suddenly closed 6 months later. Keep a thousand things in mind when buying a used car.

1) Regardless where or from who you are purchasing a used car, you are more than likely buying their problem.

2) NEVER trust a car salesman (dealer or private seller). All they want is your money - simple as that.

3) Get EVERYTHING in writing. The dullest pencil is always better than the sharpest mind. If they claimed it had no prior damage, you should have gotten it in writing, or anything else they told you for that matter.

By and large, I totally feel for you. I have been there. This is why the used car industry is always viewed as being dishonest and unethical. To them, we are nothing more than a walking blank check. It's too bad that the DMV and state don't begin a campaign to reduce consumer abuse at car dealers. Write to your state assembly or congressman/woman and let them know your experience. Believe it or not, it just might get you some well deserved help from the dealer. Please let me know what happens. Best of luck.

First of all, you purchased a used car or truck. Unless there is a written warrentee, anything the salesman says is not worth the toilet paper he uses. They will tell you anything to get you to sign on the dotted line. Especially if you are a female(no not sexist, just a fact)or a foreigner.
With the damage that you indicate, the dealer is correct in assuming that you did something. It was running when you left the lot right? Well what happened? No oil change? First thing to do with a used car is total going over by a mechanic and fluids changed. Don't trust the dealer saying they did- it's bullcrap. ReRead the first sentence. Dealer has no idea of what you did or did not do. They deal with flakes all the time and they WILL assume that you are one as well-- I am not insinuating that you are- just their attitude. They are in business to make money and how they make it is by essentially stealing from consumers. Lord knows I have been taken enough times.
It is pointless to pursue this unless you have a specific warrentee in writing. No court in town will hear it.
I hate to say this but you got screwed and didn't even get kissed.

BUT AND THIS IS IMPORTANT. They can't sell any vehicle without a valid title if you are in a title state. It is against the law. That you can pursue and I urge you to do such. I bought a 2 year old Mercedes from a second rate lot a few years ago and they could not produce a clean title. I found out via the Dept of Rev. I called attorney and he gave advise. I went back to dealer with this info. They tried to tell me that they could not know the laws of every state in regards to titling. BULLSHIT I told thm-- it is your business to know. Now either refund all the money or take this back and give me a titleable car. They took the later because they knew they were in the wrong. I also demanded 2000 in cash to reimburse me for the crap-- THEY PAID.

Good luck Mary