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Complaint Review: R&G Marketing And The CCDN AKA CREDIT COLLECTION DEFENSE NETWORK - 1655 SW 5th Ave Florida

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  • R&G Marketing And The CCDN AKA CREDIT COLLECTION DEFENSE NETWORK attorneydebthelp.net 1655 SW 5th Ave, Florida U.S.A.

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Do not consider doing business with these people.

I have been a client since July of 2006. They will take your money and forget you are a client. They do not do well with a challenge. Every situation is different, they will create more problems for you then you can ever imagine...and they will not have the answers or the solutions that they claim. Due diligence means nothing to them, it's only a legal phrase that they use loosely. They do not practice what they preach. This is a well thought out process to take your money on their end. They have covered every angle to eliminate the majority of problems they are about to encounter.

If you have already made that lethal step.........Don't be afraid to report them to the proper authorities. If your are considering doing business with them, I advise you not to. You may face wage garnishments/tax leins/property leins/judgments/bank & credit issues way longer than you would ever anticipated because they will lie to you, just as they have to me.

Do not do business with these people. There are other alternatives, do yourself a favor and just say no. I only wish that there had been info out there on the web when I started the program. If so, I'd have not been writing this today.

Don't do this, find another alternative.......realistically, your chances are better with a lottery ticket. If I should by some miracle receive the funds I have invested into this program, I'll be sure to update this report, until then, consider this process a very wrong direction in life. You may face wage garnishments/tax leins/property leins/judgments/bank & credit issues way longer than you would ever anticipated because they will lie to you, just as they have to me.

Kimberley
Livonia, Michigan
U.S.A.

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#16 Consumer Suggestion

Tad the Cowardly Lion breaks squelch ...

AUTHOR: Chris L - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 27, 2009
Certainly, Tad the Coward of Boston, I will answer your questions if you identify yourself. I stand up to bullies and I put them in their place, whenever and wherever I find them.

But you are a coward. Like the rest of the fraudsters who destroy peoples' lives to stuff your own pockets, you hide because you are afraid. Like all bullies, you can't stomach a real fight. You know what will happen if your victims find you. They'll sue you and take your god away--your god being money.

While you're hiding, coward, why don't you head on over to PACER and see what's happening with 7:09cv81 in the Eastern District of North Carolina.

Speaking of impending disbarments, maybe you should ask Bob Lock and Phil Manger whether there's any disciplinary files being built on them with their respective Bars. But I keep forgetting, you're a coward and you won't have the courage to ask them.
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#15 Consumer Suggestion

CCDN AKA ROBERT K LOCK JR AKA THE CREDIT CARD SOLUTION AKA ROBERT M LINDSEY

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 19, 2009
The main thrust of the CCDN response to complaints is to defame the person reporting the complaint, "blame the messenger" so to speak.
The CCDN Con has been going on several years now with the help of Snake Oil salesman like Robert M Lindsey of the Credit Card Solution and other Marketers
these con men recruit others to network and sell the "program"
Lindsey has a conference call network where he presents the wonders of the CCDN Scam to unwary people looking to solve their problems and appeals to their need to make money by selling the scam to others.
He is using the people in the "program " to sell others

This network approach uses the power of network marketing to sell this scam to the innocent and debt ridden victim.

The scammer CCDN is never metioned in the calls because of the poor reputation they have earned.

CCDN is in the background , The Wizard of Oz, profitting from others misery.
They are getting clever

CCDN has moved to bigger and larger offices they say:
John Hagerstein claims

They are now in New Jersey
CCDN SUPPORT SERVICES(HA ! HA !)
321 Mantoloking Road Suite 2A
Brick , New Jersey 08723
tel 1 732 262 CCDN
( I WONDER IF THIS IS ANOTHER MAILBOX OFFICE
LIKE ROBERT LOCK USES?)
I HOPE THE AG CRACKS DOWNON THESE SCAMMERS SOON TO AVOID THE PAIN THEY ARE PEDDLING
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

CCDN AKA ROBERT K LOCK JR AKA THE CREDIT CARD SOLUTION AKA ROBERT M LINDSEY

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 19, 2009
The main thrust of the CCDN response to complaints is to defame the person reporting the complaint, "blame the messenger" so to speak.
The CCDN Con has been going on several years now with the help of Snake Oil salesman like Robert M Lindsey of the Credit Card Solution and other Marketers
these con men recruit others to network and sell the "program"
Lindsey has a conference call network where he presents the wonders of the CCDN Scam to unwary people looking to solve their problems and appeals to their need to make money by selling the scam to others.
He is using the people in the "program " to sell others

This network approach uses the power of network marketing to sell this scam to the innocent and debt ridden victim.

The scammer CCDN is never metioned in the calls because of the poor reputation they have earned.

CCDN is in the background , The Wizard of Oz, profitting from others misery.
They are getting clever

CCDN has moved to bigger and larger offices they say:
John Hagerstein claims

They are now in New Jersey
CCDN SUPPORT SERVICES(HA ! HA !)
321 Mantoloking Road Suite 2A
Brick , New Jersey 08723
tel 1 732 262 CCDN
( I WONDER IF THIS IS ANOTHER MAILBOX OFFICE
LIKE ROBERT LOCK USES?)
I HOPE THE AG CRACKS DOWNON THESE SCAMMERS SOON TO AVOID THE PAIN THEY ARE PEDDLING
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#13 Consumer Suggestion

CCDN AKA ROBERT K LOCK JR AKA THE CREDIT CARD SOLUTION AKA ROBERT M LINDSEY

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 19, 2009
The main thrust of the CCDN response to complaints is to defame the person reporting the complaint, "blame the messenger" so to speak.
The CCDN Con has been going on several years now with the help of Snake Oil salesman like Robert M Lindsey of the Credit Card Solution and other Marketers
these con men recruit others to network and sell the "program"
Lindsey has a conference call network where he presents the wonders of the CCDN Scam to unwary people looking to solve their problems and appeals to their need to make money by selling the scam to others.
He is using the people in the "program " to sell others

This network approach uses the power of network marketing to sell this scam to the innocent and debt ridden victim.

The scammer CCDN is never metioned in the calls because of the poor reputation they have earned.

CCDN is in the background , The Wizard of Oz, profitting from others misery.
They are getting clever

CCDN has moved to bigger and larger offices they say:
John Hagerstein claims

They are now in New Jersey
CCDN SUPPORT SERVICES(HA ! HA !)
321 Mantoloking Road Suite 2A
Brick , New Jersey 08723
tel 1 732 262 CCDN
( I WONDER IF THIS IS ANOTHER MAILBOX OFFICE
LIKE ROBERT LOCK USES?)
I HOPE THE AG CRACKS DOWNON THESE SCAMMERS SOON TO AVOID THE PAIN THEY ARE PEDDLING
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

CCDN AKA ROBERT K LOCK JR AKA THE CREDIT CARD SOLUTION AKA ROBERT M LINDSEY

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 19, 2009
The main thrust of the CCDN response to complaints is to defame the person reporting the complaint, "blame the messenger" so to speak.
The CCDN Con has been going on several years now with the help of Snake Oil salesman like Robert M Lindsey of the Credit Card Solution and other Marketers
these con men recruit others to network and sell the "program"
Lindsey has a conference call network where he presents the wonders of the CCDN Scam to unwary people looking to solve their problems and appeals to their need to make money by selling the scam to others.
He is using the people in the "program " to sell others

This network approach uses the power of network marketing to sell this scam to the innocent and debt ridden victim.

The scammer CCDN is never metioned in the calls because of the poor reputation they have earned.

CCDN is in the background , The Wizard of Oz, profitting from others misery.
They are getting clever

CCDN has moved to bigger and larger offices they say:
John Hagerstein claims

They are now in New Jersey
CCDN SUPPORT SERVICES(HA ! HA !)
321 Mantoloking Road Suite 2A
Brick , New Jersey 08723
tel 1 732 262 CCDN
( I WONDER IF THIS IS ANOTHER MAILBOX OFFICE
LIKE ROBERT LOCK USES?)
I HOPE THE AG CRACKS DOWNON THESE SCAMMERS SOON TO AVOID THE PAIN THEY ARE PEDDLING
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#11 Consumer Comment

Chris L from NC

AUTHOR: Tad - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 07, 2009
Chris are you a lawyer, and if you are have you been disciplined by the NC Bar? Are you about to be disbarred?
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

West Virginia Attorney General gets injunction against CCDN

AUTHOR: Chris L - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 05, 2009
On 30 March 2009 the Circuit Court of Kanawha County WV enjoined the Credit Collections Defense Network (CCDN) from settling consumer debts until CCDN and Robert K. Lock, Jr. cooperate with the Attorney General's investigation. Of course they won't cooperate. See, Bob Lock and crew are above all the laws, and they do whatever they totally feel like. For now.

Pretty soon, some other AGs will take notice of this, and maybe of the at least six other lawsuits pending, with many more to come. Remember Hess Kennedy? That's what finally brought them down. Good guys are winning, finally.
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#9 Consumer Comment

YOU FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THAT CCDN IS A PONZI SCAM FOR THE POOR

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 04, 2009
RICK
REVIEW THE POSTINGS IF YOU MAY! IF YOU WERE FINANCIALLY RUINED BY THE PONZI SCAMMERS:
ROBERT K LOCK JR
COLLEEEN TOMASINO LOCK
PHIL MANGER
TRACY WEBSTER
ROBERT M LINDSEY
MARK CELLA
DAN LYLE
RICHARD RUSS
GREGG BRITT
RON BOSTON OR PIERCE
YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND WHAT I WRITE UNLESS YOU! RICK ARE ON THEIR PAYROLL?
THESE SCAMMERS ARE BAD AND OUT THERE RIPPING OFF THE POOR
LOOK AT THE FACTS
LAWSUITS IN MANY STATES, PEOPLE IN BANKRUPTCY
WAKE UP MAN GET IT STRAIGHT
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#8 Consumer Comment

Credit Defense League has 0 ZERO credibility!

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 04, 2009
Hey Credit Defense League from Saddle River, NJ everyone has heard your nonsense over and over and over regarding the company CCDM. It is OBVIOUS that you are either a punk competitor or a pissed off ex employee. You are what gives a good service like RipOff report a bad rep!

Stop your spamming!!!
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#7 Consumer Comment

CCDN AND ROBERT K LOCK JR , ROBERT M LINDSEY ARE"THE BERNIE MADOFF'S" FOR THE POOR!!!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 03, 2009
These Scammers prey on the Poor People
Down and out with debt and over their heads with trouble, Robert k Lock jr and Robert M Lindsey are more than happy to take your last buck and Rip you Off!

These low life bums are the lowest of the low.
They know their canned templates that they peddle don't work and are illegal and the so called Federal Program is a Scam.

They can't do anything except delay the inevitable , which is Judgments, Garnishment and Bankruptcy.

Phil Manger and Tracy Webster keep the lies coming the more they talk to you the less you understand . lies , lies and more lies
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#6 Consumer Comment

CCDN AND ROBERT K LOCK JR , ROBERT M LINDSEY ARE"THE BERNIE MADOFF'S" FOR THE POOR!!!!!!!!!

AUTHOR: Credit Defense League - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 03, 2009
These Scammers prey on the Poor People
Down and out with debt and over their heads with trouble, Robert k Lock jr and Robert M Lindsey are more than happy to take your last buck and Rip you Off!

These low life bums are the lowest of the low.
They know their canned templates that they peddle don't work and are illegal and the so called Federal Program is a Scam.

They can't do anything except delay the inevitable , which is Judgments, Garnishment and Bankruptcy.

Phil Manger and Tracy Webster keep the lies coming the more they talk to you the less you understand . lies , lies and more lies
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Help is on the way, we hope

AUTHOR: Chris L - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Hi Kimberley,

I suggest you try find a lawyer in your neck of the woods who will take the case contingent. If you can't, then I can tell you there are at least three nationwide class actions pending against the CCDN crew that should cover you. One is in federal court in Chicago and the other two are in my county here in NC. The main problem is of course finding these people's money. They know they have no defense. Hopefully one or more of these cases will succeed and you can get a little something back.

I'm really sorry this happened to you, but a few folks out here are trying to set things right. Thought you should know.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Help is on the way, we hope

AUTHOR: Chris L - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Hi Kimberley,

I suggest you try find a lawyer in your neck of the woods who will take the case contingent. If you can't, then I can tell you there are at least three nationwide class actions pending against the CCDN crew that should cover you. One is in federal court in Chicago and the other two are in my county here in NC. The main problem is of course finding these people's money. They know they have no defense. Hopefully one or more of these cases will succeed and you can get a little something back.

I'm really sorry this happened to you, but a few folks out here are trying to set things right. Thought you should know.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Help is on the way, we hope

AUTHOR: Chris L - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 25, 2009
Hi Kimberley,

I suggest you try find a lawyer in your neck of the woods who will take the case contingent. If you can't, then I can tell you there are at least three nationwide class actions pending against the CCDN crew that should cover you. One is in federal court in Chicago and the other two are in my county here in NC. The main problem is of course finding these people's money. They know they have no defense. Hopefully one or more of these cases will succeed and you can get a little something back.

I'm really sorry this happened to you, but a few folks out here are trying to set things right. Thought you should know.
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#2 Author of original report

Report filed

AUTHOR: Kimberley - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
I filed a report on 2/21/2009. This evening I will file my report for CCDN. And yes, the FTC is next, amongst others. I assure you everything will be filed shortly.

If you choose to do business with R&G Marketing & or any of the other web sites that utilize CCDN "as their alleged" network of attorney's, you may be setting yourself up for a really bad experience. Really, really bad. If you like stress, then you'll love this program. If you have money to give away, enjoy judgments and court paperwork, prefer meds for everyday living, wage garnishments sound appealing?, don't really need that tax return, plan on being in debt & maintaining a lousy credit rating for years to come....then this is the ideal program for you. Just call Richard Russ or Greg Britt. They'll be more than happy to sign you up & remind you that they only initiate the contract and although they have had 100% success, there are no guarantees. After that you'll have the pleasure of speaking with Tracey Webster and Phil Manger, unless of course there's any problems.

So give them a call, give them your money, but buy a shovel first.

PS...if by some miracle they should produce anything positive worth noting, I will most certainly let you know. If your intention is to sign up with this organization, you may want to wait for that day before doing so.
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#1 Consumer Comment

Why haven't you opened a BBB Report? R&H has a clean BBB report

AUTHOR: Mark J. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, February 22, 2009
BBB Reliability Report for
R & G Marketing LLC


Reported on Sunday, February 22, 2009 8:43 AM

Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of B+

Customer Complaint HistoryBack To Top
The company's size, volume of business and number of transactions may have a bearing on the number of complaints received by the BBB. The complaints filed against a company may not be as important as the type of complaints, and how the company has handled them. The BBB generally does not pass judgment on the validity of complaints filed.

Number of complaints processed by the BBB
in the last 36 months: 1
in the last 12 months: 0

Complaints Concerned:
Contract Disputes (1 complaints)
1 Resolved

Kimberly...Where is your report?
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