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Complaint Review: Robert Bell - Mesa Arizona

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  • Robert Bell 1101 Unit 270 S Ellsworth RD Mesa, Arizona U.S.A.

Robert Bell Robert Bell scamfreezone.org Is the Scam! Publishes false defamation information Mesa Arizona

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Enclosed below you will be able to read a recent email correspondence with company leader as I understand it. Robert Bell. The reason I have had to file a ripp off complaint is that Robert Bell and www.scamfreezone.org is Ripping me off and my character and my company character by allowing False defamation statesment to be made at the site www.scamfreezone.com I have news for all you. Scam free Zone is THE SCAM. Here's several facts I have uncovered. 1. Slimball marketing- what he does is capitalize on other persons or companies demise. Another words..if google indexes your site and he has you listed at www.scamfreezone.org then google by indexing his site he gets listed at the very first of order by using a Slimball marketing technique. Therefore the customers will always click on his, therefore more traffic equals more sales. We will take about his product and sales in a minute. 2. Not one place to rebuttal or has he every provided me a link to rebuttal the initial charge that has started this. In every court know to the world even in the worst of places and counties they at least will allow you to rebuttal. www.scamfreezone.org does not otherwise where's my link I asked to see it? 3. Allows False defamation of statements and words at his site. www.scamfreezone.org. The person who filled a complaint about my company allproductsinternet Got a FULL REFUND OF THERE MONEY OF $49.95. Therefore this false claims should have never been published. 4.The proper dictionary term of a Scam is "a fraudulent act or deceptive act or operation." My company allproductsinternet states exactly opportunity is, all informative information published at site, all contracts, all terms, all photos and information is clearly stated at my site allproductsinternet. 5.Unlike Robert Bell's company you just should know it is the Scam Free zone Here's what it states. Are you tired of being scammed by online work at home businesses? "Never be scammed again! Get The Scam Free Job Guide! The scam free job guide will provide you with legitimate home based business opportunities that actually pay as well as job listings from real employers seeking home workers.All businesses and positions have been screened by our staff to ensure you are only receiving legitimate home based employment." Can anyone please just tell me what the job is? If you are truly Not a scam, WHY BE DECEPTIVE and Not tell everyone? I see, so all persons who come to your site is supposed to believe you and pay $15.95 for a book, because you say it is scam free? And you do accept a western union advance..wow!? 6. Company Certification- which means pay to keep Robert's and his company mouth shut at all times and he promises never to place anything of you or your company at his site. A communist or corrupt individual would go by these rules or pay me to play with me. Who gave Robert any right at any time to certify any one person or company? Who gave Robert Bell and www.scamfreezone.org a right to collect from companies $39.99. To be approved by Robert Bell. Robert I have news for you. You and your company has No right to judge or judge any person or company for any fees. As Christ has stated, If you choose to judge people harshly you, yourself will be judged with more decisively. So therefore showing such corruption and communist activities shows you are truly very Un-American. 7.PPC advertising - Adsense advertising- PPC is pay per click advertising. Adsense advertsing is where google pays you to list related content at your site for profit. WOW Not Again Robert...you mean to tell me that when traffic comes to your site and clicks only, just clicks on that Adsense advertisement, you get profits again. Wow Robert, the profits,the slimbag marketing, the communist activities, the pay to play corruption...really does show me and the world how truly Un-American you are. I hope you have a nice life! Here's our recent emails. ((ROR redacted))) also, I want to file a complaint with your company at your site www.scamfreezone.org. where can I do this? ----- Original Message ----- From: xx To: Robert Bell Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:39 PM Subject: Re: My company listing the attorney generals office will be very curious when, your company can make claims about another on-line company and to make for profit. the attorney generals office will find out the accused company cannot even make a rebuttal for those lies? Do not you think the attourney general will find this interesting at least? you seem to be a first class Slimball. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bell To: xx Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 10:08 PM Subject: Re: My company listing Defamation is based on false info. Our info was posted by an angry customer and we post it as such.You can go where ever you want and I wish you much luck.We provide a service for no profit and if you want to counter explain please do so on our site in the link given for your side of the story.You need to also check out Rippoff.com as you are listed on that site quite a few times also.I will contact the BBB in your area and see what they say about your compnay and if there are no complaints then I will remove the complaint. On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 9:00 PM, xx wrote: For some reason it looks like you are in the business of selling business opportunities. Robert, you do know the best way of gaining customers in any field, is to first scare them into thinking , you are the good guy looking out for them? Are you really? It looks like businesses have to pay to play. Just like all BBB's? I expect the information containing my company Lattimer Marketing listed at your site Bearing false witness, Defamation will Not go without punishment. If, you do not remove I will first go directly to your states Attorney Generals office. Do you understand. you and your company have spread dirty little lies aboiut me long enough. I will get this stopped. I expect you to let me know once removed. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bell To: xx Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:10 PM Subject: Re: My company listing Post in the rebuttal form on the scam free site so everyone can see it On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 4:11 PM, xx wrote: I just seen the BS lies today.If your company had any responsibility it would provide and live rebuttal. More importantly, This persons was never scammed anyhow, HOW CAN ANYONE GET A FULL REFUND OF THEIR PRODUCT THEN CRY SCAM. That's called false defamation, lies and your company let this happen. I'm very dissappointed in you and this company. If you were the "online BBB" then You site would state B.B.B. Not scamfree. All these other people who you state are bogus liars, like the current person. I would Not be in business for over 21 years if so. Here's my site where you can see company active Live Now and today. allproductsinternet If any persons has any complaints,questions concerns, they are to contact me directly, Not cowar behind you, They have over 5 wyas of contacting me, web-site. allproductsinternet from in middle states contact us, Toll free 1-800,email (((ROR redacted))) Snail mail. All terms,conditions,information and products are clearly stated at site. I cannot make them more viewable and readable than they are. If any persons chooses Not to read them then Cry. That's Not my responsibility and Does Not mean they are scammed. If I, you or anyone person on this planet agrees to terms whether it be for a house, car,credit card, mortage,on-line purchase, any product or service given terms and contracts, those contracts and terms are legal by Law and courts. If BBB or you or any persons do Not Choose to honor our Terms and Conditions, that is your choice Not ours. We are legal rightful in all cases. The terms and conditions are clearly stated and shown at the time before any sales are made at site allproductsinternet. If persons bear false witness to these terms, you are Not to support such lies but to find the facts. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS? I expect you to resolve quickly, by taking down this FALSE DEFAMATION DECEPTION ALLOWED FOR YEARS BY YOU AND YOU ORGANIZATION. Dean Lattimer ---- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bell To: xx Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 3:49 PM Subject: Re: My company listing Why would you wait 2 years to complain about it?If you keep threatening me it will never get removed.I will see if we can get an email address on this complaint as there wer quite a few complaints about your business that we never posted.You fail to understand that we are the online BBB and they get a lot of their info from us so report us to them and see what they tell you. On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:51 AM, mail.fortune3.com wrote: How when there is No name? How when No maling address? How dare you place this false information on-line, when There is No complaint? I will be contracting the Attorney Generals office from your State, if you choose Not to take care of this defamation. You have been apart of these lies for nothing Far to long. Also, I will report www.scamfree.com to the local BBB office and www.scamfree.com to the states attorney generals office. I expect this to be resolved. ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Bell To: xx Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: Re: My company listing Contact the person who filed the complaint. We just pass on complaints as we receive them at the rate of 200 a day.Our service is free and if we hear from the customer that it was resolved we will remove the info from our site On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:49 AM, xx wrote: Scamfree, Now how can a person claim a company to be scam, when the company refunds entirely the total amount of funds sent in? And this person clearly states it at your site? How can a person list a compaint at your site get a refund and as they put it " they are still Not satisfied and want to put them out of business". Does not that sound beyound a customer wanting to not only get a refund, but to take a hateful revenge upon me and my company. All persons at all times get their products. We still would Not be in business if Not so. How can anyone state "it was a hassel to get their money back and get their money back as they state in only 8 days. Is this not being 100% revengeful, hateful and wanting to destroy a company and person. I do think so, my lawyer will think so, and you are publishing False, lieing information about my company. Here's the information from your site. I will expect to see this false information regarding my company down, otherwise I will contact my attourney for Defimation of Character. I expect a resonse.
On January 19th I sent out a money order for $49.90. I was supposed to receive promotional dufflebags and a sample bag from them to sew at home. I sent off my money order in good faith and waited 30 days without receiving anything. I made several calls and even wrote a letter but never got any sort of response from this company. I contacted the money order company to verify whether or not the money order had even made it to its destination, and was surprised to find out that not only had it been received, it had been cashed as well. Still with nothing to show for my $50, I continued to phone the company to no avail. With copy of money order in hand, I made a last ditch effort to phone the company and left an urgent collection message on their answering machine threatening to go to the police with their fradulent claims and report them. Within 8 days I received a check back for my $49.90. However, I am still not satisfied. It should be unnecessary for me to have to harrass these people to refund my money. This company is purposely collecting amounts under $50 from consumers to try to get away with depositing their money and sending nothing in return. For this I want to complain and hope that someone will put these people out of business for good. -- Robert Bell Scam Free Zone -- Robert Bell Scam Free Zone

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#2 Consumer Comment

Response from ScamFreeZone.com

AUTHOR: Neil - (United Kingdom)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 24, 2009

I own both Scamfree.com and Scamfreezone.com.

I have owned Scamfreezone.com since 1997 when I set it up as one of the first consumer protection sites online. It has been in my sole ownership ever since.

I do NOT own scamfreezone.org which was register in 2004.

Please do not confuse the .com and .org domain names. I have no control over what scamfreezone.org do.

Regards,
Neil Shearing, Ph.D
http://www.scamfreezone.com/

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Sounds like you should deal with your customer .........

AUTHOR: Me - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 11, 2009

It sounds like your problem is with the customer, and not with this gentleman and his site. He provided you with a link for a rebuttal. He told you that if the customer asked for a retraction, he would do so. You attack him for earning money from his site, and yet you have an on-line company. He was nothing but respectful and proffesional in his dealings with you, and I believe very fair. Your responses to him seemed to be childish to me, and full of 'threats' (indicates to me how you might solve problems). He appears to have posted nothing he knew or believed to be a lie. In fact, it was the CUSTOMER'S review, not his. The review may have been posted BEFORE the refund (not false). You believe a bad review means this person now has a personal vendetta against you and wants very badly to ruin you (my impression)? I bet for them, it is long over with( I believe he says two years ago?). Also, you mentioned a refund in 8 days? The customer states they waited 30 for the product ordered. I am not sure on this, but I thought you said they never contacted you? Then how did you know to refund their money? Alot of contradictions here. Because of your own post here, I have made a mental note not to buy from your company. To me, it is indicative of your professionalism, your customer service, and just what you think of your customer's who have problems, and how you DEAL with problems. Just my opinion.

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