Ronald Brian Lister, Jr dead beat dad, abandonment, DeFuniak Florida

My dad knew where we lived, even if it was in a different country, he had, email adresses, phone numbers, street adresses, how do i know? he did call us once, we received about one peice of mail from him in the first year we lived in germany. Then he dissapeared...great parenting, my mom remarried into the military, and her husband got orders to go to another country, she didn't run off with us.

He is not a capable parent, i remember being locked out of the house for hours and hours without water in the North Carolina summer heat when mom was at work and he was supposed to watch us, we were 5 and 6, he twists peoples words, he wants you to think he's a good guy, he did have multiple chances to see us, my mom has asked us multiple times if we wanted to see him when we returned to the states and we refused, but you know what, he still needs to own up to the fact that he had kids and needs to support them. I'm sure he'll read this eventually, and i f* swear to god, show up at my work again unannounced and lie to my face, there will be problems.

The child support order and the visitation order are TWO SEPARATE orders.....they in no way intermingle. The only thing that is reflected in the child support order about visitation is the time-frame spent at the dads because he is supporting them when they are at his house , hence the fact he does not have to pay support for that time.

Now I am going to comment off my personal experience with my ex. Did I want child support? yes! not because I was a money grubbing whatever but because that is WHAT IS FAIR!!! My kids would of had more if he would have paid support, WTF should they have not gotten it? I am sure the OP is going to say the same thing. CHILD SUPPORT IS FOR THE CHILDREN!!! I struggled thru school... working 2 jobs at once (just to make ends meet!!) never seeing my kids....80-90 hr week.. and it was his fault. My kids would have been better seeing me more because i did not have to work so much due to the fact he did not pay support than for him to be a low down, no good drunk a*s who would by beer before he bought his kids milk.He owes me $80,000.00 in back support that I could be doing stuff for my kids with...does he care? nooooooo!! Does he see his kids? no...did i tell him he could not? yes! why you ask? Due to the 2 felony warrants for his arrest for non-payment of child support!! That and the fact he is a drunk pot head! If Ron is ordered by the state he may have warrants too....And I know I WOULD NOT send my kids with a low life loser who has warrants out for his arrest, and drinks his 100,000.00 a year under the table income away....no way-no how!! He is the WORST EXAMPLE my kids could have at such an impressionable time of there life!


It is his responsibly to be a dad.... and since he chose instead to go have other kids and ignore the ones he already had ( anyone see a pattern?) he doesn't deserve sympathy. And from what his other ex said he does not see those kids either!!



Bottom line he should be paying support along with every other non-custodial parent... no excuses!!! The custodial parent asking for the court order to be upheld is not being "money hungry" PERIOD!!!

So, you take the kids to another country for gods sake and get pissed when he can't see them, oh but you want that money, Ron, really, you were put in a situation that was damed if you do and damed if you don't, SHAME ON YOU LADIES, you used your children for financhial gain, what loosers your are. I can see straight through all your crap, I am a single mom with three boys, older now but when we split, I swore never to take his children from him and to never use the as tools to harm him, you have done just the oposit, All I hear from either one of you is MONEY,MONEY,MONEY...Why did you take the children so far away, how can he be a dad work out any differences or of have a say in what goes on.

Child support comes with visitation rights, if he is just makin it sound like it (waffle house)he is trying but,well I am sure you found another guy and that is why you are so cold, give him a chance stop slamming him you have to help each other for the good of the children stop with the money thing get a JOB or for gods sake act like a real mother a give a sh** about you kids .You are wrong and one day when they are older you will have to answer some tough questions, Good luck Ron. You and I will need it after she reads this...ha,ha,aha,ha,

Jeez, I have to ask, was the 2nd mom here aware of the first mom and her kids? And if she was did she think this guy would act any differently with her?

Men, I guess you are programmed, or feel pressure to create progeny? I know our society doesn't do a good job of cleaving men to their children, witness the millions of dads who don't see their kids once the marriage goes down the tubes. We have programs here for teens boys, to bring them closer to their children. It is necessary, because many don't have the slightest perception of responsibility - many were raised soley by their mothers and never had a strong "always there" man in their lives. So the cycle repeats.

I am pushing 50 now, and if I had a dollar for every woman I've met who raised her children alone, struggling most of the time, I would have me some decent money. It is so sad. Something is really wrong with our society that this happens so frequently. I work in divorce; it happens among high income families and the low income families - no differentiation. Once the dad cuts out, no emotional or financial interest in the kids any more. Not all men are like that, but a huge huge proportion!

I am a woman and even in my youngest days never assumed I could rely on a man to be there for me, never made enough money, so never had a children. Sad but true. I missed a lot of grief, but I don't have any kids, which I regret.

I hope things have straightened out here, I hope there is some peace in both of these

This seems like a far too common occurrence. I cannot imagine producing a child and doing anything less than my full ability to raise him or her. I am currently involved in a beginning deadbeat dad situation. My ex-boyfriend is an irresponsible, drug-using, immature, unemployed, and cruel person, and has not seen my five-month-old son since December 2nd (nor has he offered any financial support) I am a full time student, have a job, and still manage to make my son the center of my universe. He deserves nothing less. Although I am glad he has not participated, I am disgusted by the fact that people I know have repeatedly encountered him in bars on Pensacola Beach and he has the gall to tell them he loves his son, he wants me to die, and that I am a b***h. Some of these sperm donors need to find a conscience and live up to the responsibility that they brought upon themselves.

To any other people in this situation, I have to say congratulations for being such strong individuals, and for taking on the challenge (and privilege) that has been presented to you, and taking care of your children in the way that they deserve. To Ron Lister, you certainly sound to me like a sorry, undeserving, selfish waste of human air. Your children are better off without your contributions (or lack thereof) and I'm not quite sure how you can sleep at night, let alone go about your daily life. You should truly be ashamed of the minimal effort you have made in providing for your children. I hope they know that just because their father is unworthy of the air that surrounds him, they are a beautiful product of something quite ugly. Sadly for you, seeing as you have so frequently spawned, there is probably not a single drop of good left within your person. Do the world a favor and take the money you owe in back child support, get yourself castrated, and pay for your children to go to college. I am severely disgusted.

Hi Sandy, I feel your pain, I am in the same situation with a piece of garbage who has not picked up the phone in over a year to so much as say Merry Christmas or Happy Birthday. I was able to get a lot of information on Intelius.com. Good Luck. ps: Mr. Deadbeat Dad Jim Friskel finally contacted me when I posted on Rip Off. He has not paid anything, just more promises.

Ron, you are a pathetic excuse for a so-called "father", nothing would keep me from seeing my children if I was not the custodial parent. Your excuses are sorry and you are hurting your children, there is nothing worse than to neglect your children which you are doing both emotionally and financially. STOP BREEDING!!

never wold I have thought that by clinking on this site randomly would I see years of reponses over the net. There a children involved, which luckly have what seems to be 2 wonderful moms. I think it shows alot that the two of you have allowed the children to know and love their sibling as a sibling.

However, Ron that was your job! youre children are connected by you, therefore you should feel obligated to keep them as close to each other as possible- family is a very important part of life, and it builds a strong since of self, as well as dictates the way they will veiw thier own duties as a father or mother in the future.

You have drpped the ball, not only have let your children down, by not providing a manly, good role model- inevitable you have taught them that family is convience and that excuses forgive fatherly duties!

I pray that these children will be as open minded, family oriented, and comassionate to others as their mothers seem to be. Maybe the excuses were valid in 2001/ its now 2007 and there are still excuses/ change for the sake of the children. Better yet, pay you support, and continue to be afar, humans are creatures of habit, by you returning now, the chances of you staying around, being dedicated, and an appropriate role model to these young people is slim to none. you dont seem to stay in one place long, nor do you inconvience your self much!

ask yourself these questions/ fathers(daddy) know the answers!!!!

whats my childs favorie color, TV show, singer, whose their teacher, best friend, what are their fears, dreams, goals, and lifelong wishes!
You 2 mothers are great people for remaining friends and keeping these children together as a family, you will be rewarded for this through them when they become parents and your grandchildren will not have to go what they have/ some satisfaction is better than none.

I hope the best for you both and the kids you have- It seem that instead of 2 moms you two take turns be 1 mom and 1 dad! Good luck, the kids are better off!

Ron,
Since you obviously have no clue, I bought one for you. You can go to any Hastings and pick up the book I just bought you. It is called "Parenting for Dummies" as this sounds to be right up your alley.
As for his exes, Glad you both have great kids despite beings sans father. You both have a long journey and I am afraid that your "family tree" will only grow as Ron has no clue how children are made. Good luck to you both.

That is what you expect from a deadbeat. He loves to blame everyone but hiself for not being a part of his childrens lives. I have tried to get him to sign over his rights, because they are being raised by another man who loves them very much, but he insists on claiming to love his children so very much, but doing nothing about it at the same time. lol. I just hope and pray that I do not have to send my children to Maine. They would be terrified.

Assuming this is accurate, this guy has kids with different women, disappears, then blames his ex's and his kids for not contacting him? Whatta creep.

His ex has left so many contact points and numbers at this websight alone that I could probably contact her. And still this guy is blaming them for his lack of effort. The kids are probably better off without him as it seems all they will get from his example is how to slack.

Normally I don't care or comment on the personal issues here at ROR, but this one struck a nerve. I wonder what his custody rights are. If he loves his kids so much and wants to be such a big part in thier lives, why did he let them be moved to Germany? Why didn't he fight to keep them stateside? I guess it doesn't matter because he didn't, and therefore it's better the kids are not close to him.

If it were MY kids, I would make sure I had joint custody. I would live 5 miles away from them at the most. If they moved (assuming I had agreed to it), I would move with them. I would have an ongoing and amicable relationship with thier mother. And I would NEVER let someone take them out of the country.

Dude, you can try to get back into these kids' life if you really want to. It will be a long, difficult process that at this point will require incredible effort. All on YOUR part. You left the kids by your choice, they had no choice in the matter.

Ron Lister is also the father of my two children who are now 5 and 6. I left him back when my youngest was a few months old. He stayed in the picture for a short while, and as of right now, he has seen his children 1 time in 4 1/2 years. He is the sorriest pieace of crap when it comes to his children. Sandy and I have a wonderful relationship, and our children have seen each other more than there own father has seen them. He has yet to provide health insurance for his children. He was ordered to do this 4 1/2 years ago.We are in the middle of a nasty court battle right now, so maybe things will change for the better. He also owes me $10,000 of back support. He is trying to get the judge to make me put my two precious children on an airplane and send them to Maine to visit a man that they do not even know. He calls and acts like the kids will want to talk to him, and my youngest son will, because he does not know any better, but my oldest son does not have any intrest at all.His day will come though. He will live hell on earth for treating his children the way that he has, because god does not love ugly!!!!

Ron,

You sound like a real loser...why should your children make an effort to talk to you. It sounds like you have alot to make up for and it's something that could take a very long time. You can't just hurt your children. Waltz back into their lives like nothing happened.
You sound like a real jerk, man - grow up!!!!!

I see that you enjoy trying to bash me online. You know that you are recieving payments EVERY month now that I have a steady job. Were you willing to post that information? No, of course not. I am also working 70 hours a week to keep up. I know life isn't easy having 2 teenages in your house. But did I ever tell you that YOU had to keep the kids, NO, and you know that I would be MORE THAN WILLING to take care of them. I hope that are you still willing and trying to encourage the kids to become close to me again. All I seem to hear is how much they don't want to come back and see me. Also I have told the kids they are welcome to call me at ANY time. They have yet to do this. Why is that? Are you telling them it's too expensive to call me? They can call me after 9pm your time to not use up minutes. I feel they are being subjected to negativity about me. If you were doing what you said and encouraging them to call and make efforts to get to know me I think they would.
I am also sure that whatever they endured with Steven is having an impact on their ability to bond with me. I know he wasn't the nicest dad to them. Yes I know he was there (physically) with them in Germany, but if you would kindly remember I was always fun for the kids to be around and never would have harshly punished them. I encourage the kids to behave and mind you, please make an effort to encourage them to talk openly with me, so that I don't have to ask them questions to get them to talk to me. I will send a phone card if you have a house phone so they don't have to run up your phone bill.

Ron,

Why are you continuing to repeat the same action over and over again and expect a different result? I am convienced that you have been subjected to a socioculture that allows you to be lazy and accepts you for this, thats fine, but what's not fine is that you are damageing the lives of your children. You may not want to see this but I think that if you use the simple Logic that everyone was born with then this very simple concept will become crystal clear.

Another conclusion that I am drawing from your actions (or NON-action as it is better described) is that you only view your children as another bill to pay, and if thats the case then you HAVE ruined your credit!!! Help me understand your point of view as to why you DONT care enough about your children that you DONT want get the eye glasses that you promiced them knowing I am working 80 hrs a week and cannot afford them. Maybe you just dont care about them at all. Do you?

You say that you are doing everything that you can but if this is true why are you as a "grown man" playing video games in your spare time; while I am going off to a second full time job in mine? Who's the adult?

You asked me to recant my statements on this website a few months ago; because it was interfering with you situation with your other children. Why? have you change your ways? NO! You sound "real sorry" for your inadequate support, but in my opinion the best apology is CORRECTED ACTION.

Ladies and gentlemen...this is the response I get from my ex-husband who finally found me via e-mail.


I am about 2 hours from you. I would like to get in contact with child support myself before I tell you my exact location. I hope to get that done in the next week or so. I haven't called yet to find out where the other money is going. If it is not going to you I am not sure what is going on. Either way it will need reviewing because they are taking 2/3 of my check, which isn't much to begin with, and leaving me with not enough to live on.

Ron


I guess I can assume what I thought all along and Ron...if you read this - the day you go to jail for not paying child support will be the happiest day of my life!! Your an a*s and always will be!

Florida Child Support Enforcement Agency 1-800-622-5437

Sandy,

I know that you are tired of all the run around as I am too. I was hoping that we could talk things out. I did find the other site that you posted information on and responded there with my email address. So it is available. Where can I find you? I have tried as well and have not had any success. Where are you located at?

Since you know where I am can I know where you are located. I would like to be able to get back into Ronnie and Meagan's lives. I know it has been a long time, but now that you are all back in the states it is more feasible to have contact. Please allow me the hope of seeing them again. I am their father and would like to be able to be in contact with our children.

Ronald, This Gloria person and anyone else on this paticular message board that does not sound familiar to you are PUBLIC CITIZENS who ALL have access to this website and are able to post "rebuttals or comments" which is the purpose this website serves. We have been given the opportunity to express our opinion and have so chosen to do so. If you had taken care of your responsibilities in the 1st place your children's mother wouldn't have felt the need to start this complaint to begin with and none of us would be here, however you have done just the opposite and here we are! Get over it!

Ronald, This Gloria person and anyone else on this paticular message board that does not sound familiar to you are PUBLIC CITIZENS who ALL have access to this website and are able to post "rebuttals or comments" which is the purpose this website serves. We have been given the opportunity to express our opinion and have so chosen to do so. If you had taken care of your responsibilities in the 1st place your children's mother wouldn't have felt the need to start this complaint to begin with and none of us would be here, however you have done just the opposite and here we are! Get over it!

Ronald, This Gloria person and anyone else on this paticular message board that does not sound familiar to you are PUBLIC CITIZENS who ALL have access to this website and are able to post "rebuttals or comments" which is the purpose this website serves. We have been given the opportunity to express our opinion and have so chosen to do so. If you had taken care of your responsibilities in the 1st place your children's mother wouldn't have felt the need to start this complaint to begin with and none of us would be here, however you have done just the opposite and here we are! Get over it!

Ron,

Contact any Child Support Enforcement Office in Florida. The telephone number is 1-800-622-5437.

I refuse to continue "looking" for you. I should never have had to in the first place.

I am not trying to argue with you or play your silly game of hide and seek....you simply are not worth my time.

One last thought...why do you use SOMEWHERE, ANYWHERE AND N FL for your city location?? You don't have to answer that question I know the answer.

I will look into where the support went to. It does not say on my check stub, all it says is child support and the amount. I am not trying to argue with you here or at all.

I want to be in contact with you and the children. I miss them and would like to talk to them again and see how everything is going. I genuinely do love Ronnie and Meagan. I am not trying to run away from them but since we can't post any real info. on this site I have no other way of contacting you.

Again I have put my name in an available place to you. Where you had looked before I have added a profile that should be easy to find. I will add more info. soon if more is necessary.

I am in florida and in contact with my two boys here. I am not going to abandon any of my children and love them all more than anyone seems to think. I don't know why the dad always get the rough end of the deal? I am sorry for those other parents out there that are having trouble with their ex-spouses, but I would appreciate if they would stay out of our business. I am begining to wonder who it is that I am talking to here.

Sandra I believe that if you contact the operators of this site they will give you his info. That way you can avoid this crap he is putting you through. [DELETED]

Also I know that in GA we have a site on our child support that lets us know if the absent parent has gotten a job and pays taxes. so try to see if they have one there. Good luck with that d**n dead beat.

Look at it this way, at least as long as he owes you you will always get the money one way or another. He will never collect SSI, unemployment, or anything from the government.

Ron,

Your info did not come through. I am sick and tired of this - the state of Florida and the State of Maine both know my contact info.

Contact either states Child Support Enforcement Office for more info. And while your at it... look at your pay stub and figure out which one is taking money out of your check... because it's not being sent here!!! It's probably for Joel and Christopher... remember the other two children in Walton county.

Ron,

Your info did not come through. I am sick and tired of this - the state of Florida and the State of Maine both know my contact info.

Contact either states Child Support Enforcement Office for more info. And while your at it... look at your pay stub and figure out which one is taking money out of your check... because it's not being sent here!!! It's probably for Joel and Christopher... remember the other two children in Walton county.

Ron,

Your info did not come through. I am sick and tired of this - the state of Florida and the State of Maine both know my contact info.

Contact either states Child Support Enforcement Office for more info. And while your at it... look at your pay stub and figure out which one is taking money out of your check... because it's not being sent here!!! It's probably for Joel and Christopher... remember the other two children in Walton county.

Ron,

Your info did not come through. I am sick and tired of this - the state of Florida and the State of Maine both know my contact info.

Contact either states Child Support Enforcement Office for more info. And while your at it... look at your pay stub and figure out which one is taking money out of your check... because it's not being sent here!!! It's probably for Joel and Christopher... remember the other two children in Walton county.

I tried to post more specific information yesterday, but as you can see they deleted most of what I wrote. I have add to my info. in the members part of my profile so that you should be able to locate me now. If you continue to have difficulties I guess you can just write me back here. I don't know who this Gloria person is, do you? Anyways, I do have an active account with the above posted site. Look for my name first and last. Is there a certain place that I can look for you? Hope to hear from you and the kids soon.

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I would like to know where you are stationed. Are you in Fl also? And the payments just started coming out of my check so I guess someone knows where I am?? I had thought you knew and had sent the information in. Either way you should be getting a check sometime soon.

Wow is it wonderful to hear you are back in the states. It has been way too long since I have been able to see Ronnie and Meagan. This is great place [DELETED]that you can contact me at.
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I would like to know where you are stationed. Are you in Fl also? And the payments just started coming out of my check so I guess someone knows where I am?? I had thought you knew and had sent the information in. Either way you should be getting a check sometime soon.

Wow is it wonderful to hear you are back in the states. It has been way too long since I have been able to see Ronnie and Meagan. This is great place [DELETED]that you can contact me at.
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I would like to know where you are stationed. Are you in Fl also? And the payments just started coming out of my check so I guess someone knows where I am?? I had thought you knew and had sent the information in. Either way you should be getting a check sometime soon.

Wow is it wonderful to hear you are back in the states. It has been way too long since I have been able to see Ronnie and Meagan. This is great place [DELETED]that you can contact me at.
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I would like to know where you are stationed. Are you in Fl also? And the payments just started coming out of my check so I guess someone knows where I am?? I had thought you knew and had sent the information in. Either way you should be getting a check sometime soon.

Wow is it wonderful to hear you are back in the states. It has been way too long since I have been able to see Ronnie and Meagan. This is great place [DELETED]that you can contact me at.
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If this is Ron, father of Ronnie and Meagan Lister - please contact either the state of Florida's Child Support Enforcement Agency at 728 N Ferndon BLVD, Suite 3, Crestview, FL 32536 or the state of Maine's CSEA at case.review@maine.gov.

We are back in the states...as you were aware, Stephen extended his tour in Germany for three years and we weren't expected back until 2004. Both Ronnie and Meagan are doing fine and both are healthy.

I have made tremendous effort in trying to locate you since I have not heard from you. Last time we spoke was May/June 2003 time frame in reference to the kids passport paperwork that I did not receive for almost three months...you said you were moving from DeFuniak Springs to Orlando and that was all I got from you. No information since then, so it was a little hard.

If you are sending support, please verify with whom it's going through because nothing has been received since July 2001. The state of Maine has been helping me so maybe you should notify them if payments are being made so they can track that.

Thank you,
Sandy


Ron,

I found two Ron Listers (your age) in Maine and both e-mails came back to me as account disabled.
Above is what I sent....please send your e-mail adress, street address or telephone #.

Ronald.....if you want to see your kids so bad why should she have to make the effort to find you...It's your responsibility to make the effort to see YOUR kids. Arguments or not those children are your responsibility and no matter where they live by law YOU must support them. Travel costs for vistitation are on you! not the courts , your ex or the kids.

If you really wanted to see your kids you would have by now. And even if you couldn't see them what's your excuse for not sending even a birthday card. YOU SHOULD BE UTTERLY ASHAMED OF YOURSELF!!!!GROW UP!!!!!!

Are you back in the states? If you are I would like to arrage to see the kids sometime. You can find me online on yahoo by looking up my name and a year.I hope you will contact me with this information. Oh, and yes the support went through. And you know I am concerned with my children's welfare. You are the one who took them out of my reach. I would like to be in contact with them again. Please make the effort to find me.

My children's father has responded with the following message.

I love my children very much and would like to speak to them more often. It would also be nice if I had their email addresses as to contact them that way. No, I have not contacted them since last summer. I would contact them more often, but I don't get to talk to them, all I get is into an argument. As far as the child support I thought we had agreed to make it more reasonable. I would like to see my children back in the states sometime soon as well. I want to be an active part in their lives, but it is difficult with them living outside the country for so many years.

Ronald - Anywhere, Florida
U.S.A.


We did not agree on changing anything...I cannot change a court ordered document. If you read this please contact the Child Support Enforcement Agency in Walton County, Florida. Tell them you would like to start paying back child support.

You always had our address as we never moved for the six years will we lived in Germany...you also had a telephone number for them.

Anyway, at this point my biggest concern is the lack of support you are giving your children. I cannot post information on this website as far as phone numbers or e-mail addresses but you can find me on the internet.