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Complaint Review: Schneider Finance, Freightliner, Schneider National - Green Bay Wisconsin

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  • Schneider Finance, Freightliner, Schneider National 1 Packerland way Green Bay, Wisconsin United States of America

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After driving for Schneider as a company driver and not making any money, I quit and drove for a couple other companies. I got the idea to call Schneider again and finance a new truck. They assured me that I would get about 2700 miles per week or more and I should be able to bring home 1000.00 per week after all the bills were paid. I did exceptionally weel the first 3 - 4 months and did bring home 1500.00 or more per week. I was happy, and glad I came back to Schneider. I really thought they would take care of me because I leased a truck and they wanted to make sure I got good miles and pay the bills.WRONG!!!! I am financially broke. My credit score went from 750 to 200 because I am just about bankrupt! I am lucky to bring home 300.00 to 400.00 a week. Before taxes! I called schneider and talked to 20 different people, and they helped me for a week or two at a time. That was it. I called one of the head people at Schneider, and no help at all. I guess this is what a lease scam is all about. They are only hiding their own investments by making you buy the truck,pay insurance,buy fuel,and they pay nothing for the truck and you go home broke and they dont even care!!! Wow, and the Government sits back and lets this go on because Schneider is #72 on the largest privately owned companies in the U.S.A. and they get major tax breaks because the buy so many trucks and you pay for them and make nothing! How can I get out of this scam and live a normal life? I went through 2 years of breathing exhaust fumes because of a turbo and manifold leak that Freightliner could not find. Two years of being sick and they could not find it. I took the truck to Truck Country outside of Green Bay, and they fixed it. My hat is definitely off to them. They did all the repairs needed, and now I can breathe!!! The other dealers didnt fix it because they would have losy money doing the repairs. Diesel fuel is highly carcinogenic and can kill you. How can I get out of this scam???

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#9 General Comment

Sfi truck leasing

AUTHOR: Royal Winston - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, January 24, 2017

 Here is a little advice 4 all drivers who wants 2 become a owner operator. Driving a dry van bumping docks, will not make u much money. If u you're not LAZY, then u need 2b transporting TRADE SHOWS EXHIBIT, CLIMATE CONTROL, ELECTRONIC. all of what I just mention comes together. This is what I've been doing for the pass 6 yrs. U can't be lazy!! U have to tie down, secure your load properly. After your expensive ballpark 2500- 3500 no bull#@$#. Unigroup, Mayflower, STI, united van Lines. Just 2 name a few. Pay is base on a combination of weight, miles, layovers, wait time after 2hrs u get 65hr, layover pay is 250-350 per day. Remember u can't be LAZY!

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#8 UPDATE Employee

SFI Customer, SNI IC

AUTHOR: Deborah - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, November 05, 2010

I too am an Independent Contractor with Schneider National (SNI).  Couple of things you should know about...

Schneider Finance, Inc (SFI) is a different company from Schneider National, Inc (SNI).  Yes, I know, they share facilities, work closely together on getting drivers into the trucks, etc.  However, SFI has zero control over operations at SNI, and they can get into trouble for even trying.  SFI is like any other vehicle leasing company, their concern is with the vehicle.  You can, btw, switch carriers, though that can be expensive or impossible in your situation.

I also financed my truck through SFI, and leased to SNI.  I was supposed to go on the Choice Program (essentially self-dispatched, planning my own loads, etc), but excuses where made by SNI on why this should be delayed.  The delay has now cost me $1,800 (haven't seen one positive settlement in weeks now) by being forced to remain on mileage (they dispatch me).

At least you had a few good months.  Even SFI is upset with my low miles (average less than 1700 a week), but says there is nothing they can do, other than give me an inside track into the corporate food chain at SNI to get off mileage and onto self-dispatch.  Unfortunately, those individuals are NEVER available (meetings, conferences, vacations, days off, etc).  This means it is already too late to fix the problem with SNI, and too late to keep the rig and go elsewhere with it.

SNI claims freight is down, though I want to smack company drivers who are complaining they get only 3000 miles/week.  Which tells me what is going on, the IC's are competing with lower cost company drivers, the latter of which will always get priority on any load.  Very huge lesson learned, never lease with a company that has their own company drivers.

Best bet is to do what I'm planning to do unless you hit the Powerball or something, walk away from the lease, wait until they send you a bill for the balance due, and then go Chapter 7.  Remember the lesson learned (never lease or finance except through your own bank), and just go back to being a company driver (my plan).

Meanwhile, good luck.  We're 500 miles from home, supposed to be home yesterday, and being told they can't get us home for two more days.  That shouldn't happen with owner-operators, but it does.  We're now just company drivers who buy the fuel and make the truck payments.

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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Your business

AUTHOR: B.J. - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, October 18, 2010

Well, first of all sorry to hear about your troubles with the pumpkin patch.


Now with that outta of the way. As a O/O myself with schneider, I can't say i have any porblems with them. We have bumped heads a few times but that normal for any O/O and company to go through. My question to you is: did you treat your truck as a job or a business? cause it does make a world of a difference.

Example: I bought my first truck from them, ran mileage did d**n good. But there were times i would here, "oh there's no freight right now" got tired of that saying. So I ran a fine line so i can get on choice board "it's a program they have to book your own loads" Since I've been on choice for almost 3yrs now, i've a brand new 386 pete back in 08 and never missed a payment never had issuses with finance and see a good check on the regular. I pick when and where I want to go and when I want to go home. I decide how much money I wanna make for the week and when I want to f**k off.

My Point is, every truck company is going to jack you one way or the other. You just have to find that soft spot in there system and sit there. As the other fella said before, you may be a good driver.....but that has nothing to do with being a good business man! The attitude I took when i bought my second truck, was you can't tell me what's good for my business. THEY CAN'T!!!! When Schneider dispatch you, it for there best intrest not YOURS!!! That's why i went on choice, cause I decide what best for my business. 

Good Luck with your future!!
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#6 Consumer Comment

Never Lease From a Trucking company!

AUTHOR: Solo Driver - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, July 03, 2010

First thing I would say is, NEVER lease a truck from a trucking company and here is why..

1. The company has Total controll over the loads you recieve ie your miles=your income..make the wrong person mad and they can make you sit and you still have a weekly payment to make.

2. The Company most times has a subsidary (a 2nd company owned by the trucking company) that leases the truck to you..so in essance your paying the companys bills for THEIR TRUCK!

3. When you complete the lease the company gets the Truck Back so you paid just to USE THEIR truck that you DO NOT OWN. And you pay for ALL repairs during the lease and any the truck "needs" at turn in ( bet your a$$ they will make some up to charge you with)

To get out of your lease most companys have a claus in the contract were you can just turn in the truck to them and your done..I know for a fact this was true at CR England (DO NOT GO THERE!) but not sure about Schneider, READ your Contract!

If you really want to be a O/O BUY your truck from a Dealer, TAKE the Company out of the picture! You can then Lease TO (not from) a company like Landstar where you have a CHOICE of what freight you want to pull..and CONTROLL your own income..need a week off you can do that too at YOUR will not the company!

Hope this helps

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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

dont lease with schneider finance

AUTHOR: richard - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, January 28, 2010

schneider finance is a big scam truck leased for 77,775.37 in 3 months time 10,000 in repairs. gave truck back went three weeks with no income and not a bit of help with this junk truck.iam broke also no job truck was sold for 38,000 hum? now owe schneider 39,775.37. cant even afford lawyer to file bankruptcy. BEWARE DONT DO ANY LEASE WITH SCHNEIDER.

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#4 Consumer Comment

Don't use schneiders' school to get your cdl

AUTHOR: Charles - (USA)

POSTED: Thursday, January 07, 2010

Don't use' school,  school.  To get your CDL.   They discrinmante and buy,  reading other complaints.   Schneider "TERMINATES" you after you,  complete training.

Then drivers can't,  pay back the money.   So the drivers,  credit gets ruined.   And schneider puts a mark on there DAC,  to keep them from getting a new job.

 

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#3 General Comment

Everyone is hurting

AUTHOR: Jocko - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, January 03, 2010

Everyone is hurting not just you and when you go from a employee to a small business owner there are major changes in our life. Going from W-2's to 1099's and loads of different tax laws. While not a trucker I am a small business owner and one thing that does change from leaving a employees comfort to a "Owner Operator". No longer can you be lazy and take a few days off or pass up those small loads. You have to be aggressive and push; I tried it for a little while out of the military (Class A w/ Haz) and it was too much like work.

Timing is the most important thing; and you could not have picked the worst time to buy your rig. One thing for sure this is not your Schneider's fault that your in this situation. They did not force you to buy your rig, nor is it their fault your credit score has dropped. Its all you, and your responsibility to do something about it. If you have something in writing that says they will pay you1.5k a week then it is their fault. Although it is my belief that you had a discussion with a dispatch buddy who tried to help ya; and all his other friends. Times are tough and people are doing what they can to survive, if your not locked into just working with Schneider look to haul for others.

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#2 Consumer Comment

There Are No Guarantees As A Businessman!

AUTHOR: Jim - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, January 02, 2010

When you went from being an employee to being a BUSINESS OWNER, you stepped into a new environment.  To be successful as an owner operator, you need to be both a good driver and a good businessman.  One does not guarantee the other.  But even if you were the world's greatest driver AND the world's greatest businessman, you STILL have the uncertainties of the marketplace.  We are currently in a very depressed freight environment...that's true of every trucking operation on the road.  This idea which is generally promoted by people who do not have any business sense that becoming an owner operator "guarantees" you a big profit is pure B. S.!  If you can't or won't accept the instability of the marketplace, then you shouldn't be an O/O.

If SNC "guaranteed" you "X" number of ,iles as an O/O, then that was clearly improper on their part.

I suspect however, you aren't exactly clear in regards to the difference between being an employee and businessman as it pertains to the term "independent".

 

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#1 Consumer Comment

Sorry to hear about this

AUTHOR: Brad - (USA)

POSTED: Friday, January 01, 2010

I don't know about the situation I don't have all the details.  I haven't heard much good about the leasing of trucks.  I hear usually bad things. All being it's great for 3 to 4 months maybe even a year. Then something happens out of the persons control and the payments keep coming while the income all but stops.  My suggestion is to file bankruptcy and start over.  Make sure to file chapter 7 bankruptcy and include all of yoru creditors.  As for getting out of the lease it's not going to happen cause you signed the contract they cover there own asses while leaving you the consumer hanging.  However you can probably file bankruptcy on all of it and if you are good on your CDL and your record is clean you can probably find another company to work for.  And I would recommend never leasing a truck again.

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