sexualspells.com Vivian Blake,TRAE DORN Another scam, the brain child of Trae ERIC Dorn, he also operates love-horoscope.org where he waves his magic wand and grants wishes i.e he is a fairy! Eau Claire, Wisconsin, United States Internet

Obscure insults and baseless accusations again, nice. throw into it the new paragraph for every line and this post fits the Dantalion script nicely (as evidenced by actual posts on RoR, of which there are many). However, aside from the bald-faced statement, there's no evidence in the offing from you that my own posts or Trae's are related nor in there any evidence that either of our posts are related to the Ashia Haadi business. Again, Haadi is your history, not mine. I don't know her, I have nothing against her in particular. And none of my posts here or anywhere else have ever mentioned Ashra. Again, I don't know him/her, and don't care.

As for proof, the burden of proof lies with the accuser and always has. It is your role to provide the proof that your accusations stand on their own merits, a role you have yet to fulfill. On top of that, one can't prove a negative. However, Trae and I do, in fact, have a long, well-supported trail of legitimate internet activity, demonstrating that these names have been used for things other than a ruse for accusations, and therefore have more credibility than the discredited Frater Dantalion or the nebulous Javier or Dave who all claim to be from the same location. Trae's webhost also posted, before and after your accusations, about Trae as an upstanding user with a long history and, to their credit, defended him. That provider has a long history of its own and no record of bad behavior of any kind, facts which are verifiable by actual records as they are a legal business based in the US.

Trae does, indeed, have a website as well. But it is a personal website that is not governed by us commercial laws as it isn't selling anything. You've at least gotten smart and quit referring to british laws in regards to US commerce as was your old favorite tactic. I don't blame you. You're british, why would you be up on US legal code, especially when most domestic commercial enterprise is governed at the state level and follows 51 different sets of legal process. I don't know it either, frankly, and ultimately it doesn't matter as, again neither Trae or myself operates a commercial website.

The 'rubbish' on kimberly rose, was actual proof including names and addresses from their public whois entries (legal entries demonstrating ownership of a website address, for those unaware). Further proof was provided by searches of people posting under the web addresses used on the site elsewhere on the web and was backed by blog posts made on Trae's previously mentioned web provider addressing the distressed calls made by the owner of the Kimberly Rose site who feared legal action. On top of that, screenshots of their site, public records information, prior reports on their activities, previous scams also tied by whois records and business registries to the individuals in question, an article on a reliable consumer reporting website (as opposed to RoR which simply takes your word for it), and backing by multiple sources aside from Trae easily and simply attest to the factual nature of his accusations. The fact that the Kimberly Rose website's closure coincides with both the release of Trae's article and with the sudden private status of the perpetrator's myspace and facebook accounts and the disappearance of other more loosly linked scams, also attests to the connection with Trae's research, though certainly anecdotally.

That, frankly, was a case study on how to reveal a scam. You haven't taken even one of those steps. The closest you came was in reading Trae's website (and apparently not much of it given your comments), which has a huge number of articles and forums devoted to everything but spellcasting and one small, only occasionally updated section about paganism that for less than a dozen articles which are now months stale, covered Kimberly Rose and the subsequent drama that you've inflicted upon RoR and other sites. And, though he did uncover Kimberly's actual identity, he didn't do what you have done and report her on RoR, mostly because he was doing it as a personal act of vindication for his beliefs and not out of any sensationalized attempt at shutting down her site. That it shut down was a pleasant after effect only.

This website breaks e-commerce laws - there are no prices which by law should be displayed and no psychical address is displayed, which a website selling anything should display. There is no email address, and that breaks the law too.

It's a scam whoever is behind it, though it is linked to Trae Dorn.

How come detective Trae Dorn doesn't prove he isn't behind it? He fabricated a lot of rubbish that cannot be proven about Kimberly Rose.

Trae Dorn is guilty by association and deserves to be exposed. Meep doesn't exist, it is Trae Dorn with a fake friend trying to convince the world he isn't a scammer. Try harder fish face.

The truth Trae Dorn AKA Meep hurts.

You, dog's breath, attacked Ashia Haadi and Ashra on ROR, I can recognise your fake postings a mile off. Can you not stand competition?

You stole Ashia Haadi's guarantee, because your brain is the size of flea spit and you cannot write your own.

Scammer. You look like a squealing pork pie on your insane blog - you've gone up your own arse Trae Dorn AKA Meep.

I suggest you actually follow the advice here. As always with Dave (read Frater Dantalion), the entire claim is unsupported. If you actually do google trae, you'll find an upstanding resident of Wisconsin who runs an anime con, plays in a band, happens to be Wiccan, and has a philosophical issue with anyone who sells spells online. He also has a demonstrated history of shutting down spellcaster websites, something FD/Dave also doesn't have.

But why google when you don't even have to leave RoR. There are now a dozen or so posts by FD and his sock puppets, easily identifieable by a UK pedigree, incoherent subject bookended by his latest red herring and a location, individual sentences separated by paragraph breaks, and usually a list of spellcaster websites or at least a reference to one as in this case.

That Dave is Frater Dantalion is pretty readily apparent on RoR given Dave's word for word lifting of FD's text and tactics in other posts. Look up Asha Haadi, tasha (some of his other red herrings), trae dorn and dantalion and you'll see a long string of similar garbage comments with a similar format. I'll give this one credit in that it at least doesn't take on the usual petty insults that others do and actually joins its sentences into coherent thought.

A host of folks have rebutted FD on this issue including Trae, myself, Trae's webhost for his legitimate non-spellcasting website, and others. Many of those rebuttals are well thought out, well sourced, and backed up by actual evidence in screen captures, video, and historical precident.

Frater's tactics are never any of that. They use publicly available info on Trae to boost his image as a major net sleuth (when in reality it's all available on Trae's site), then makes a series of unsubstantiated claims.