Report: #351821

Complaint Review: Stone Evans' Plug In Profit Site

  • Submitted: Wed, July 16, 2008
  • Updated: Wed, July 16, 2008
  • Reported By: Oklahoma City Oklahoma
  • Stone Evans' Plug In Profit Site
    Dallas, Texas

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I would like to forewarn all amateur internet marketers to steer clear of Stone Evans' website if you hate throwing your money away on scams. Stone is a very effective and cunning snake oil salesman. I found him to be particularly patronizing and manipulative. He is basically operating a pyramid scheme called PIPS which is his reduplicated website called the Plug In Profit Site. You can not get Google or any other major search engine crawlers to visit your site when your site is a clone of Stone's. And getting traffic to your website is the whole point right? What will you be selling you ask? You will be selling the Plug In Profit Site home business opportunity in a box. Plus all of the affiliate programs you are required to join under Stone is the gift that keeps on giving by way of monthly commissions for Stone.

When I had a question about one of the Affiliate programs that I joined (SFI) and sent Stone an email, he sent me an automatically sent email that basically told me to find help from someone else in my upline. He also has this picture of himself on the PIPS sales pitch page that looks like he just graduated from High School and is this friendly, optimistic boy next door type. I saw another pic of him on the Rich Jerk's web site where he looked around 37, pudgy and kind of nerdy. Be aware that Stone will strongly recommend that you upgrade your free autoresponder on the first day of your 30 days training, so that your autoresponder is free and clear of ads, don't. He will also ask you to buy up ad space that will be shown to everyone who has the free autoresponder service, don't. Why, you ask? Your website has pointers to his PIPS website until he teaches you how to remove the pointer from your website on the 19th day or so. So all of those ads you just paid for, will benefit him and him only. Bottom line, he will get the sale, not you. And if you upgrade your free autoresponder to a paid one, he will collect a small percentage of that fee for the life of your autoresponder service. That is why he highly recommends that you upgrade.

My suggestion to you is that you join the Warrior Forum for free after you have learned the basics of website creation and design. And download Stone Evan's Plug In Profit Site 30 Days to Success training manual on 'internet marketing' for free. But stay out of the PIPS message board in the Warrior Forum. Most of the regulars in there are Stone's cronys. And will either lie, obfuscate the facts, go on the attack if you state anything that is either true or critical of PIPS and if all else fails your posts can be deleted if you don't go by what they deem as acceptable or if they don't approve of what you are listing as your website. Keep in mind that the owner of the Warrior Forum also owns Host4Profit. The hosting service you are required to join and as you might've guessed, Stone earns monthly commissions from Host4Profit for the life of your Plug In Profit Site. The gift that keeps on giving--for Stone anyway.

Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

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#1 REBUTTAL Individual responds

PIPS is helpful to newbie affiliate marketers.

AUTHOR: John McDougal - (Afghanistan)

This has always been my experience.

#1)  I signed up for this and learned 30 days of how internet marketing works.  It's some of the best training out there in one place.

Everyone will say - YOU can get it for free...  yeah, you can - but has anyone put it down in one place organized where it effectively teaches you in 30 days sequences.

Not that many!!!


#2)  Your complaint is what?  That someone didn't email you back.   Grow up, snowflake!  When you're running an online business - pay for a coach or STFU.  You want everyone to do it for you - hold your hand - fly in and pay for you and in return, you complain that he didn't return a text.  Grow the F up!


#3)  Be grateful that someone is willing to put in the time to teach whatever you can learn... if you don't use it, that's on you.  


What I'm seeing now is a Wealthy Affiliate scam where people say everything is a scam except for the same exact training from Wealthy Affiliate.  When you lie and deceive your readers for the sake of stealing their SEO so you can get an affiliate commission from Wealthy Affiliate, you are committing fraud.  Plain and simple.


It's time to contact the FTC regarding the Wealthy Affiliate scammers!

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#2 Author of original report

I do understand

AUTHOR: - ()

Hi Paul,

Susan here. You mentioned to Jason that I did not understand that PIPS is a business. If I didn't realize that PIPS is a business, why do you think I joined PIPS in the first place?

I couldn't help but wonder why you responded to Jason's complaint about PIPS, but ignored me totally?  

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#3 Author of original report


AUTHOR: - ()

Hi Jason,

Happy to see that my complaint helped at least one person with a 'heads up'. But I do wonder why Paul never responded to my complaint. Only to your complaint. Or Stone Phillips for that matter, since PIPS is his creation. Oh well, it is what it is.

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#4 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Jason - ()

 Plug in Profit site was the first site i became affiliated with back in Feb of 2011. I had the same experience as Susan. These websites are all duplicated sites and they simply do not rank. I also see that only one of the companies he was promoting back then is still being promoted at PIPS. I completed the training and spent a lot of money to make PIPS work and I did not make a dime. Now three years later I know a few things and I can honestly conclude thate Stone is targeting Newbies that know nothing about making money online and ripping them off. His methods are extremely outdated and people that are new to affiliate marketing do not know this.

I would also like to ask Paul who strongly defended PIPS how well he faired with his experience with Stone Evens and PIPS. I can see that you wrote your rebutal about 10 months ago, that is about how long I spent defending this BS system and not making any money. I would be interested to here from you to see if you still feel the same way..


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#5 UPDATE Employee

Must be another affiliate beginner

AUTHOR: paulsteam - ()

I guess you were looking for a lottery ticket when you joined Plug In Profit??? You must think that you just join an affiliate program, for free, then make a few million overnight, while putting in zero work, zero effort and zero money? To call this a scam is Ludicrous

This is an online affiliate program that has been around since 2009 - If you've been in online marketing for more than a day or 2, you'd see how many SCAMS there actually are (i've been in several like Affiliate Junktion and Zeek Rewards)

Plug in Profit is built for the absolute newbie, with a 30 day to success guide - it's all step by step

Yes, it's $1 to get your autoresponder...Why? Because you need LEADS and you need a system to follow up with those leads...hence, the autoresponder is mandatory - He builds the website for you, he has 400 follow up emails prewritten for you, and he loads the autoresponder FOR YOU...

Stone Evans, if you see him on YouTube, is quite a likeable guy and FAR different than the MILLIONS of online marketers trying to hit it and quit it (ie, Screaming at you that THERE affiliate program is the best ever)

Just because the original poster doesn't understand that Plug in Profits is a BUSINESS, and takes some work, I guess it's much easier to just call it a scam...

Paul B****

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