Report: #77947

Complaint Review: Stores On Line - PMI Coaching

  • Submitted: Fri, January 23, 2004
  • Updated: Thu, March 10, 2016
  • Reported By: Winchester Tennessee
  • Stores On Line - PMI Coaching
    United States of America

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I am a college educated person and my partner has a Phd. We are not stupid people. We were both looking for a website business to promote our products. When we attended the Stores On Line meetings, we were lead to believe that we could have our store up and running within a week and would be assisted in every way we needed help.

They had many Stores On Line store owners there to testify that everything was true. We decided to go to another meeting before we made any decisions. They pressured us to buy six stores. We decided to only do three. We paid for PMI coaching who is affiliated with Stores On Line to coach us through the entire process, and they (Stores On Line) even said they would do it for us.

After weeks of work and trying to read the manuels, plus the coaching, things started coming together. Our stores were on line, but we haven't got the first order. After being live for six months, we still have not had any orders. Stores On line said they can't figure out why we aren't selling anything.

The biggest grip I have about the PMI coaching, is our coach was more interested in hurring up and getting off of the phone than making sure we understood what he was telling us. He would give us a ton of information really fast and expect us to get it within a 30 minute call. I got the feeling that he gave us what he was supposed to and he was finished.

I asked him if we could email him for help after our sessions were over, and he said we could. When I did, he would never respond back. I really don't think they care if we are successful or not. Both Stores On Line and PMI Coaching lead you to believe they are more than they are. I'm about to find a lawyer and try to get my money back.

Dawn Winchester, Tennessee

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Get Your Money Back

AUTHOR: D. - (U.S.A.)

Don't let the Statute of Limitations expire! Gather up all your receipts, correspondence (E-Mail and Snail Mail) along with all credit card statements and/or canceled checks. Call your Credit Card Company and explain your experience, that you want to challenge this company and all charges and that you want all your money credited back to your account.

You may have to make copies of all documents and write a detailed letter to support your telephone complaint but it will be worth it and cost less as well.

You may be surprised at their re-action to misrepresentation. I got $6,000.00 back from another scam artist this way. GOOD LUCK. Please post your results here.

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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Refund from fullfillment co., not from sales group, Treasure Chest, Auctions for Income, Iworks, John Beck, Frank Kerns, IDI, StoresOnline, Foreclosureworld,

AUTHOR: Doreen - (U.S.A.)

PMI, involved in many reports w/ Internet Treasure Chest, Auctions for Income, Iworks, John Beck, Frank Kerns, IDI, StoresOnline, Foreclosureworld, etc.

While PMI coaching handles & manages the coaching portion, who actually made the sale? Who's name is on your credit card statement? I've read reports from consumers that purchased E-books, these sales/coaching groups have been calling them also. Buyer Beware, be careful of back door phone solicitation if you've purchased any e-book or infomercial product.

In my situation, it was "The Summit Group" that made the sale hiding behind the name "Auctions for Income Success Team".

I think many reports target the front companies, the ones that are most visible, while the deceivers stay hidden and unaccountable. Does everyone get ripped off? I don't know !!!

I got 100% refund directly from the fullfillment company: IDI Internet Developement Inc because the sales group "The Summit Group" stonewalled, argued, & blamed proving that to them, the customer is never right. shows they are involved in Real Estate = America's Note Network that has Unsatisfactoy BBB rating. One of their dba's is PMI, along with Dalbey Publishing, Dalby Publishing, Winning in the Cash Flow Business.

PMI left Kansas City, MO with no forwarding address but stated that this company is headquarted out of American Fork UT, which happens to be the city & state of The Summit Group, well at least the division that made the sale to me. Summits 800 number from IDI is in Maryland. PMI's Lindon UT address had unsatisfactory BBB rating and states that they had a strategic alliance with StoresOnline. Their

Kearney MO address is the same address as NMR, National Marketing Resources which was the coaching title given to me as my coaching provider. My coach was actually quite decent to me but had no power in providing refund, all that went back to the sales group "The Summit Group".

NMR & PMI show Steve Thorne as CEO or Principal.

I feel that "The Summit Group" is an umbrella name for many of the smaller companies they own or partner with. If you try to find BBB reports on the summit group, not found. But Professional Consulting Service, Professional Marketing Inc and other names all have unsatisfactory BBB reports. Couldn't find address for The Summit Group, but a search of their address turned up Summit Consulting, both show Colton Moody as CEO and has an unsatisfactory BBB rating.

They keep changing business names, moving but all complaints are similar.

StoresOnline, Orem UT, has judgement against them Go to:, this is BBB reliability Report. They were required to do several things: offer 3 day right to rescind, pay back consumers, provide consumers a list of all additional & optional services prior to finalizing sale. I think COSTS should be added here. The Summit group used 3 day rescind in their telephone solicitation, without the consumer benefit of listed services and costs prior to finalizing sale.

All of these companies know about this judgment and the requirements of the judgement. Yet, they continue to decieve consumers by incorporating 3 day rescind to TRAP consumers.

I feel these companies should be held accountable to the FTC requirements, lengthy description of what they are required to provide consumers. They certainly didn't provide this information to me prior to finalizing the sale. Can be found at: which is America's Note Network BBB reliability report, toward the end under Educational Comments.

I filed a lengthy report, see:

Wishing everyone the best of luck in getting their refunds.

Stay strong ! Good luck !
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

3 Day Right To Recind Contract Bull$h!t!

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

Hey there Everyone,

I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.

Doreen is absolutely correct when stating, that a "3 day right to recind contract", or any duration in which to recind a contract is just a LURE and TRAP scheme.

Any and all companies, that state a "3 day right to recind contract" policy are scams. This bogus policy has been implemented as a window of opportunity in favor of the fraudulent business in question.

It gives consumers a false impression, that the bogus offer is legitimate. "3 day right to recind contract" policies are also used to give consumers the impression, that one has no recourse after it has expired. FALSE!

Only fraudulent businesses implement bogus "3 day right to recind contract" policies, in attempt to discourage many from coming forward to reclaim any extorted monies.

This "3 day right to recind contract" is only a window for fraudulent businesses to give their victims the run around, until it has expired.

PMI and their offers are all scams! The fact that they run out of the scam capitol of the world does not help their cause. LOL.

Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Mike Evans From The Fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute Blows.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

Hey there Everyone,

I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.

WARNING: Do not purchase "wealth building" programs! They're all scams! Businesses that peddle this garbage are making huge profits from the sales of such fraudulent programs.

1. If these programs had any value what so ever, why would these businesses be offering their "wealth building" strategies to total strangers?

2. Why would the cost of the program cost significantly less than the earning potential claimed by the imbreed peddling the program?

3. Why are these "result of incest" beings shoveling this $h!t, as opposed to participating in the programs themselves?

4. "3 day right to recind" policies are just traps used by fraudulent businesses, to give consumers a false impression, that the business and their services are legitimate.

This bogus policy is also used to make their many victims feel as though there's no recourse after the 3 days are up.

5. Why do fraudulent businesses insist on tape recording ones agreement to enroll, but prefer not to tape record the entire conversation, fraudulent salsepitches and all?

6. Why are the contracts of these bogus "mentoring" programs drafted by grade schoolers, instead of legal professionals? John Beck is an attorney! LOL.

7. Mike Evans from the fraudulent John Beck mentoring Institute is a result of two cousins having engaged in sexual intercource. F%CK YOU MIKE EVANS!

Mike Evans is also a q***r, who needs to be blasted in the face for attempting to extort $6,400.00 from me.

SPREAD THE WORD: Be sure to keep all of your loved ones safe from all the con artists peddling bogus "mentoring" programs. There's no such thing as legitimate "wealth building" mentoring programs.

Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

A Helping Hand.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

Hey there Everyone,

I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirit and health.

WARNING: DO NOT fall for any "weatlh building" Infomercial programs, Donkey Lapre, Tom Vu (world's ugliest mother f#cker), Carlton "Sheet" for brains, etc, etc. They're all scams!

Their businesses are all fraudulent! This issue goes far beyond bad customer service and unethical business practices. Their progarams are literally scams!

Legitimate mentoring programs do not exist. never have, never will! A company or individual would have nothing to gain by sharing his or her "wealth building" success strategies with total strangers, and is especially not going to do so for less than the earning potential of the program he or she is shoveling.

If anyone has specific questions or concerns regarding fraudulent mentoring programs and how to easily obtain a refund, feel free to ask them through a rebuttal and I will respond to them as soon as time permits.

I have been taken by Mike Evans (result of incest) from the fraudulent John Beck Mentoring Institute and have become somewhat of an expert in this field.

Until next time, take care cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.

P.S. If there are any media companies interested in the full story regarding John Beck's (attorney) mentoring scam, feel free to contact me through a rebuttal and I will respond as soon as time permits.

I'd be more than willing to expose this unscrupulous fraud, while possibly helping thousands receive a refund from this f%ck!ng genetically imbreded crook.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Don't Fall Victim To PMI.

AUTHOR: Reid - (U.S.A.)

Hey there Everyone,

I hope that this rebuttal finds you in good spirits and health.

WARNING: Coaching or mentoring programs are ALL scams! The many unacknowledged and unresolved complaints regarding mentoring programs on not only this website, but many other consumer advocate websites like this one, are not just mere coincidences.

There are no such thing as legitimate businesses selling "wealth building" information to total strangers. Even if such programs did exist, a company would have absolutley no way of proving the success to failure ratio of their program.

Fradulent businesses would still continue to air their fraudulent Infomercials loaded with B.S. Hidden disclaimers, bogus and unsubstantiated claims, paid testimonials, etc, etc.

PMI is without a doubt a scam. No legitimate company would ever allow this many complaints to be accumulated against it. Legitimate companies, that have nothing to hide, would have no problem addressing issues in the public eye.

Disregard any and all rebuttals posted by employees of PMI, for they are obviously nothing but excuses posted by a band of shills working out of the scam capitol of the world.

Until next time, take care Everyone cause I care, Aloha from Hawaii and God Bless.
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