Symmetry Direct Lied Pressure Sales Deceived Grand Rapids Michigan

I never worked directly with Tim but I did meet him once.  In general, he seemed like a nice, decent guy who had a great business plan set up.  I worked out of the Lansing, MI office, which was called Vivid Concepts Incorporated, or something like that.

The first thing that struck me as odd when I showed up the first time (by the way, I was brought in by a friend, not suckered in by one of the post-it note "job opportunities") was that the office was basically in the basement level of a building and had only one sign right outside their door.  It seemed that if this business and Scott, the owner of the Lansing office, were doing as well as I later was told they was, they'd be in a larger or nicer office area.  I also later inquired as to why Scott, if he is making all these big bucks, was driving a crappy pick-up truck (my car was much nicer than his, and I drove a Cutlass).  I was told, not by him, it was because he lived a very simple lifestyle (which is code for "He can't afford s**t").

Unfortunately, I got caught up in the hype and the atmosphere of "making big bucks" and being independently wealthy after watching the video and listening to the speeches.  I signed up that day to get the starter bundle for $159 (I later learned why it was called the "starter" bundle).  Then I got to work calling everyone I knew to get them to see the presentation or buy products.

I informed Scott that I was nervous about telling my parents about this business opportunity I was in because I knew they wouldn't support it.  He basically gave me the same scripted response of "You have to just keep trying" and "If they don't support you, it's their loss.  You'll soon show them how right you were to start here."  So I didn't tell them and "just kept trying," which was the motto of the office.

The next month I am told about this weekend workshop that will be occurring in Chicago.  It sounded interesting as I would get to meet some of the highest money-makers in the company and "pick their brains" for information and techniques.  I mean, who wouldn't go to a weekend company conference to meet the head honchos?  Then I learned that it would cost me $300 to go, and I thought "Wait, why would I have to pay to go to a conference put on by my own company?  If they really wanted people to succeed, wouldn't they put this on for free and give people as much support as possible?"

Of course I was still in the "caught up in the hype" mindset, as I had already been scammed into joining this debacle and was told I would soon be seeing results.  I went to the weekend workshop, and I met a lot of people.  I will admit that the techniques they taught there could actually help someone with their business, whether they're with Symmetry or not.  On the last day came the part where they used all of the built up hype and energy to dupe people into buying more products and tools they didn't need.

On the last day they had a "sale" on their advanced bundle (or whatever catchy name was given to it).  I say "sale" in quotes because making people think they're getting a special promotional price (which probably occurs every weekend) hooks them into buying it.  Well, it got me and I bought the advanced bundle, along with like 1500 post-it notes (apparently at the time I thought I needed 1500 post-it notes to spread around).  The whole package cost me around $500-600, and it even overdrew my checking account, but I didn't care at the moment because I was being brainwashed by all of the excitement and hype.

Fast forward to a month later.  I'm sitting on the same product I bought from the weekend workshop, and I used up about half of my post-it notes.  I tried to get Scott to re-order the post-it notes as they printed my phone number incorrectly, and he kept telling me "I'll get that done soon."  I eventually just corrected the number by hand as it was quicker than waiting for him to do anything.  At the end of that month, Scott approaches me and tries to get me to rent a desk in the office so I'll have an official place to work from.  He tells me "You should rent this because if you don't, I'll have someone else in it by the end of the week, and this place is going to EXPLODE with growth blah blah blah..."

That was the last straw for me.  I had been in this company for only two months and had already been conned into dropping $1,300 into my "own business."  From all of that investment, I had only seen a return of $16, and that was because two of my family members bought one bottle of Genesis from me (which I later deeply regret asking them to purchase anything as it came with a HUGE sense of guilt and embarrassment).  Also, I managed to sneak a peek at who else was working under the guy who brought me in, and guess what...I was the ONLY person he managed to con.  I then decided to just cut ties and run, taking this whole thing as a substantial financial loss and one of those life learning experiences.

Overall, I think the Symmetry Direct business has wonderful products, but their marketing plan is just plain deceitful and full of empty promises.  If it wasn't, then more than just the top 1% of people in the business would actually be successful and wealthy.  Of course if that happened, the whole pyramid would come crashing down since there wouldn't be as many new suckers to extort money from.  At least I got a new awareness of schemes and what to look out for and red flag immediately.

Now I'm waiting for some "employee" of Symmetry to come on here and deny all of my claims and tell me "you just didn't try hard enough" and I should have stuck it out for another year and gave them all the money they wanted.  People, if you EVER have a post-it note stuck to your car window or door that days ANYTHING remotely related to the following statements, throw it away:

Spring Cash! (or Autumn Harvest)  Do you have an extra 10-15 hours a week and want to make an extra $1500-5000 a week?  No experience necessary, will train!

Really Symmetry?  Let me break down the lies that are told in the post-it notes:

1) People starting out with Symmetry are immediately pressured into working as much as possible, and if they say they can only do 10-15 hours a week, they are either laughed at or kicked out the door.

2) An extra $1500-5000?  Does that include all of the start-up and investment costs, or is that just some unattainable number you like to tease people with?

3) "Will train" should rather say "Will make you call everyone you know, then we'll give you a phone book to call random people and piss them off.  If you actually want to be 'trained' it will cost you $400 and a whole weekend."

Stop waiving the imaginary carrot in front of people, hoping they will still chase after it.  It's about time the marketing side of this company had a total makeover, including growing a set of ethics.  If I can stop even one person from being sucked in by this money vacuum, I'm happy.

So he is in fact, a con artist.
He has faked it until he made it.... to absolutely no where.

So I wonder what the Symmetry Direct Scamsters are going to say about this?

(I'm sure they'll come up with something.)

For someone who's been in the business as long as he has (looks like about 6 years) he has nothing to show, and certainly isn't rich!