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Complaint Review: TeeTimes247 - Internet

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I am a franchise owner of a TeeTimes 247 web site. I have struggled with this business for some time now. I bought into all the hoopla after numerous phone conversations with John LaFrano. He was the rep who spoke to me almost daily.until I sent in my check for $1300. Now he does not call me back. I think he has me on a phone block, and he knows when I am calling. When I call his fax, I can hear it pick up and hang up. The emails I sent to him go unanswered. I cannot get anything from him, and he was my rep. I am having major problems running my business, there are computer glitches of all sorts, their sites are down a lot, and the 6 people that have actually found my site and worked with me were not happy. No one ever picks up the phone at 800-707-1141. And when someone does, they have no clue who you are asking for. Seems people working with this company use false names. Just call and ask Ashley if this is true. You can only leave a message that is ignored of deleted or laughed at. One out of every 7 are returned.

One buyer of mine, one of the 5, gave my company a shot a while back and had a terrible experience. I gave him the reservation confirmation, and charged his credit card, He went and called the course to confirm the reservation and they had no record of his tee time, never had the tee time on their schedule. Then the guy tried to contact me and I was nervous and I emailed TT247 corp. for helpnothing. I received no help and had to deal with this man all by myself. A very pissed off man at that. He then notified his credit card company and reported the fraud. This was not the fault of TT247, but the golf courses they work with. This is typical of the problems I had with them. That made my business poor, and my repeat business non existent. I wish John LaFrano would have warned me about this earlier on and I would have saved the headache and $.

Here is some information that I have recently located: Seems a man named Mike Stubbs is the Handicap Chairperson of the company. I believe he is the scam artist behind the whole thing. Not Steve Schulze as I was told. Steve Schulze is the president, but I believe he is just a name, and nothing else.

I watched the marketing DVD that was sent to me. Looking like it should have been on at 2am . Total fluff. No help there. The company did not help me on identifying the market, or anything such as that. I was on my own, They helped with the site, sure, they built it, and they put banners on it and they charged me. Good scam. The company and the workers are unmotivated, and unhelpful

If you are thinking of joining up you might have read things like this:

No experience required - we will do all the work for you, we will simply establish a link for you. This is bogus TOTALLY UNTRUE. You must have experience, you have to talk to the golf courses, they do not teach you how to.

Commission's payable the 10th of each month, closing date the 25th of the previous month. For example, June 26th July 25th payable August 10th That is when they feel like paying you. I had a check coming, a whopping $27 for a months work, and it took them about 72 days to actually get the check out to me.

That is another thing. What they say you will bring in and what you do are two different things. $27 dollars for one month is no where near enough to make a living. I didn't make money selling teetimes, I didn't make money with the golf shop ,travel packages , hot dealsnothingall BS!

And add to that the fact that I had to cut time at my job to make this business work. Which it did not! My ongoing expense was monthly about $625 in phone and fax billswith nothing coming in Not good. Now I am back at my job full time and I am letting this business go for now, and speaking to my attorney (get one if you join up with them). From what he says, there are scam artists out there like this, and you really need to be careful before you sign up. Do your due diligence. Be careful. I will be trying to get my money back, lets see how that goes. So far, nothing. They say there is no refund policy.

STEEMED J
CA, California
U.S.A.

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RE: teetime247 is a scam - I paid the $ and have not heard back

AUTHOR: Morty - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, December 14, 2004

Anyone else here lost their investment with teetime247? I sent in my $3000+ and now when I call I constantly get a voicemail. That is odd. Did they fall off the face of the earth? I am beginning to think so. John LaFrano was the person I spoke to there. He told me that they run a tight ship. Seems to be a lie if you ask me. I sent my $ in back on August 19th and still no one is getting back to me.
The money I invested had been earmarked for some bills and some things for my wife, but now I am out. I am an avid golfer and thought this was going to be great, sadly it seems like I was scammed.
Steve Schulze is the president, and I think you are right by saying he is just a name. Otherwise, if he were legit, he would be very upset about this.
Well, if anyone has any information let me know. I am lost here, and out of my $. This company is a scam and they take you money and run. Call the 800-707-1141 and see for yourself the scam they run. NO ONE PICKS UPS.
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AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 04, 2004

Mike at Teetimes really sold, or better described, lied to me , to get me to sign his stupid contract. He cost me $1500 bucks for the stupid "business" and additional costs for the Corp software, I had to buy a computer and internet service, fax machine and subscribe to the stupid credit card swiper thing. when the service actually worked I get a whopping %5 of the order,,,,WOW. Don't quit your day job. So,,here I am with this stupid contact, stupid credit card machine, monthly cost for that don't forget, and no business. I thought being here in the "Golf Capital" I could hook a few deals,,,,nothing. Hey Mike, your phone is ringing again, it's me, I want my money back from this ripoff BS business you stole my money

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AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 04, 2004

Mike at Teetimes really sold, or better described, lied to me , to get me to sign his stupid contract. He cost me $1500 bucks for the stupid "business" and additional costs for the Corp software, I had to buy a computer and internet service, fax machine and subscribe to the stupid credit card swiper thing. when the service actually worked I get a whopping %5 of the order,,,,WOW. Don't quit your day job. So,,here I am with this stupid contact, stupid credit card machine, monthly cost for that don't forget, and no business. I thought being here in the "Golf Capital" I could hook a few deals,,,,nothing. Hey Mike, your phone is ringing again, it's me, I want my money back from this ripoff BS business you stole my money

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Teetimes247 Franchise

AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, December 04, 2004

Mike at Teetimes really sold, or better described, lied to me , to get me to sign his stupid contract. He cost me $1500 bucks for the stupid "business" and additional costs for the Corp software, I had to buy a computer and internet service, fax machine and subscribe to the stupid credit card swiper thing. when the service actually worked I get a whopping %5 of the order,,,,WOW. Don't quit your day job. So,,here I am with this stupid contact, stupid credit card machine, monthly cost for that don't forget, and no business. I thought being here in the "Golf Capital" I could hook a few deals,,,,nothing. Hey Mike, your phone is ringing again, it's me, I want my money back from this ripoff BS business you stole my money

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