TeMar Shepherds Mary Dygert selling ill puppies under false tattoos and names. Canby Oregon

I too purchased a GS from Temar. He is a beautiful dog, but also was never able to register him with AKC. Mary had said he wasn't "show quality" because of his tail setting a bit low, but I have been told otherwise by other breeders and judges. I think she may have known my pup had some issues, but again, he was going to a good home as a pet and perhaps the issues would never surface. I will give her the benefit of the doubt on this issue. AKC had online ability to register, but I was told the breeder hadn't registered her portion and thus they couldn't release my portion. I contacted Mary several times about this, but it was never cleared up, nor did she ever send me the paperwork I needed to register the pup. Since I don't show him, I finally just gave up. Mary was always great to work with, has a beautiful kennel and property and loves her dogs, from what I could see.
My dog started to have seizures in the summer of his 2nd year. He only has them once in awhile and always during the summer. We have spent hundreds of dollars trying to figure out what causes the seizures, but have found nothing yet. He only has them 1-2x a summer. We have narrowed it down to allergies especially to bees.
My dog also blew out his front elbow when he was 3. This was a $3500 surgery to correct and the vet said it was due to the breeding, but not uncommon. The breed, especially those strong german lines with the big heads and bodies have been bred too far forward in their stance and the elbows break off and get stuck in the joint. Most breeders are now also guaranteeing elbows as well as hips. My dog is now 5 and doing great.
I did contact Mary during the elbow episode and she never got back to me. I explained to her I wasn't upset, breeding will have issues at times and I just wanted her to be aware so she would know that the bloodline for my pup had some issues. Just like in humans, dogs too will have issues sometimes and that doesn't mean not a good breeder.
All and all I think Temar produces good pups and good bloodlines. I don't think I would purchase another Shepherd from Mary because she didn't get back to me regarding the elbows, even though I wasn't upset, just wanted to discuss with her. I DO think that Mary cares about her dogs and does try to produce good pups and good bloodlines.
I would also like to say her prices are very fair and all and all I still believe she is a good breeder and cares. I think most busy breeders get busy and when their is an issue they are so worried about legal issues that they skirt the issue maybe hoping it will go away. I agree maybe the responses to issues could be better dealt with, but besides that Temar cares about their dogs and spends a fortune to feed them and set them up for success. I got some of the best dog advice from Mary in regards to food and training and I once again would like to reinforce that I do believe she is a good breeder, but does drop the ball when issues arise.
I would still be willing to bet that her percentages of dogs with issues would be below 5%.
in any business that is a good business. Regardless of everything buyer beware in any purchase. You can check a pups registration out before buying and verify tattoo etc. if you didn't do these things you are at fault as well. I was too and will know for the next pedigreed pup I purchase. This is the 4th GS I have had and I have to say the better the pedigree the more issues, I have learned this from many breeders and kennels. My prior GS's didn't have the great blood lines, but they also never had any issues.
I hope your dog is doing ok and you still love it regardless.
L. Gurnsey

----- Original Message -----
From: Raquel
To: Mary@TeMarShepherds.com
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 6:01 AM
Subject: Thank-you


Mary,

I appreciate you explaining things. I knew she was born in Canada, yet I was not aware of there rules until now (as well as you). When I had called them awhile back-in hopes of getting the papers on the ball, I was just taken back on why BiAnca tattoo was registered with someone else. I do believe we now are on the same page with all this.

I was totally full aware at all times that I will not get full. I am more worried about getting AKC number and a 3-4 generation pedigree.

Needless to say, I'm working on getting a few people together for a photo shoot. I don't have a digital so that means take pic, develop film, and scan them- quite the old fashioned way. Lol

I will be seeing the vet Tuesday and plan on setting a date for hips x-rayed. One step at a time.

I would like to somehow register BiAnca for the Sieger show-this requires an AKC number no? The club in Saginaw Michigan more works ScHh and AKC, they don't do the Sieger?.

Sincerely,


Raquel
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May 18, 2009

To whom it may concern;

The above post is a copy & paste of an email from Raquel. Anyone is welcome to contact me for complete details, copies of emails etc.

Respectfully

Mary
TeMar Shepherds

Some questions
What exactly was the initial problem you are stating diagnosed as? You provide symptoms but not the diagnosis, the only mention is of coccidia (how long had the pup been with you when that was diagnosed as well). The most common and likely explanation for your description of lethargy, facial swelling, ect. (no fever) would probably be an allergic reaction to something. When was your first visit to the vet? IMMEDIIATELY UPON ARIVAL-NO $2500 PUP SHOULD ARRIVE ILL- AND IF ID HAD BREEDER SHOULD PAY VET BILL AT LEAST- SO SHIP A SICK PUP BACK RIGHT AFTER ARRIVAL SO IT CAN DIE IN A PLANE? How many times were you there for the same thing (and how long in between) and did it reoccur after the first time? What was the nature of each emergency visit and what led there? DOG WAS IMMOBILE -Was it continuous or did it fluctuate? How many emergency's were there? 2 How was it treated? $$
Did you provide the vet records? YES- MARY RECEIVED IT IMMEDITALY- ACTUALLY MY VET EVEN CALLED HER-Did you abide by the purchase contract? SURE DID Did the contract state a particular time frame in which the pup was to pass a health exam and was that done within that time? SURE Did the contract state that you were to return the pup (usually at buyer's expense) in order to receive replacement or refund? Did you want to keep the puppy instead? AT THIS POINT MARY BECAME OFFENSIVE AND WROTE ME OFF MAJOR ATTITUDE ON HER PART. HARD TO ADMIT A MISTAKE?
You were provided what you need to register the dog with AKC it sounds like (as you say you have the CKC papers). CONTRACT STATES AKC PAPERS. Even had you gotten an application from AKC you still must pay an additional fee to register the pup so there really is no difference there. AND HOW DOES ONE DO THAT WITH A DOG WITH DIFFERENT TATOO? DO TELL! What do you mean about the name? DOG WAS NAMED THREE MONTHS PRIOR TO BEING BORN And what do you mean about the tattoo? TATOO MY DOG HAS AND IS ON CONTRACT DOES NOT MATCH THE CKC THAT WAS SENT TO ME What's the difference between the one on the paperwork and the one on your dog? LETTER AND NUMBER DIFFERENT Do you mean the tattoo is no longer visible? GOSH IT WAS A PUP I WOULD HOPE THE TATTOO WOULD BE VISIBLE How exactly are you deeming the CKC paperwork bogus? NOT MY DOG- What do you believe it should have said? WHAT OUR CONTRACT AND EMAILS STATE IS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE-As you have stated it, most things could be linked to normal process with an imported dog (though easy for many to end up confused and buying the pup in the US does not mean it isn't an import) so can you elaborate with some more details please? *just my opinions*

SORRY -I DID NOT BUY AN IMPORT. I BOUGHT A SCHUTCHUND PROSPECT FROM TEMAR SHEPHERDS AND HER FEMALE. ALL WAS WELL WHEN SHE GOT MY MONEY. SHE WAS GOING TO GET THE PAPERWORK CORRECTED AND ADMITED MISTAKE. OF COURSE CLAIMS IT WAS SOMEONE ELSE FAULT. YET ONCE I KEPT ON HER a*s TO GET THE PAPERWORK FIXED (WHICH WENT ON FOR MONTHS) HER NEXT EMAIL SAID I'M DONE WITH IT AND I'M SENDING YOU THIS CKC PAPERWOK AND THAT I CAN DEAL WITH IT . SO BASICALLY SHE WAS NEVER GOING TO DEAL WITH IT.

CALLED CKC CAN'T DO NOTHING WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT MY DOGS NAME AND TATOO. SIMPLE FIX AND STILL NOT DONE-

I ALSO CALLED HER VET AND NO STOOL SAMPLE WAS DONE. NO RECTAL TEMP WAS DONE.

What exactly was the initial problem you are stating diagnosed as? You provide symptoms but not the diagnosis, the only mention is of coccidia (how long had the pup been with you when that was diagnosed as well). The most common and likely explanation for your description of lethargy, facial swelling, ect. (no fever) would probably be an allergic reaction to something. When was your first visit to the vet? How many times were you there for the same thing (and how long in between) and did it reoccur after the first time? What was the nature of each emergency visit and what led there? Was it continuous or did it fluctuate? How many emergency's were there? How was it treated?
Did you provide the vet records? Did you abide by the purchase contract? Did the contract state a particular time frame in which the pup was to pass a health exam and was that done within that time? Did the contract state that you were to return the pup (usually at buyer's expense) in order to receive replacement or refund? Did you want to keep the puppy instead?
You were provided what you need to register the dog with AKC it sounds like (as you say you have the CKC papers). Even had you gotten an application from AKC you still must pay an additional fee to register the pup so there really is no difference there. What do you mean about the name? And what do you mean about the tattoo? What's the difference between the one on the paperwork and the one on your dog? Do you mean the tattoo is no longer visible? How exactly are you deeming the CKC paperwork bogus? What do you believe it should have said? As you have stated it, most things could be linked to normal process with an imported dog (though easy for many to end up confused and buying the pup in the US does not mean it isn't an import) so can you elaborate with some more details please? *just my opinions*

Clark-

It's so very nice of you to NOT be able to identify with any of my statements. Obviously- you received accurate AKC papers for all your dogs?? When I or any other puppy buyer spent all the time and money buying a puppy FOR SHOW and SCHUTZHUND- they expect to receive EVERTHING they paid for. Contract stated healthy puppy. Contract States AKC papers for the dog purchased.when I end up with a CKC piece-of-crap paper with a dog name on there that isn't my dog and a tattoo that is NOT in my dog's ear. That's pure BS! I did not buy a dog from Canada. I bought a dog from TEMAR GERMAN SHEPHERDS-How can any respectable' person do this to some new happy puppy owner?' Gee- at least own up and pay the emergency vet bills for the ill pup that came?!!! If she'd have just taken care of the problem at the get gothen YES- maybe I and others she has screwed would be happy.

The is a RIP of REPORT not a brag about how your soo happy.

Raquel

I have bought three German Shepherds from Mary over the last six years. I have had GS dogs since the time I was five years old and am now 55. Not going to count all of them but of all the dogs I have owned, Mary's Dogs are by far the best. I am not a breeder, just a lover of the breed. I currently have 2 females and 2 Christmas's ago bought my daughter a male dog, after she lost her dog.

As for temperament, health and confirmation, her dogs have it all. I have personally visited her breeding facility numerous times and it is spotless. If I ever have a question about any of her dog's or anyone else's, I call Mary before calling the vet.

My old male dog now 11 doesn't have much time left (from another breeder) but when he has to go and for some reason, I think I need another GS dog, I will go to TeMar. I am sorry but I can not identify with any of this woman's statements about Mary Dygert. Her dog's aren't cheap but quite frankly after getting to know her breeding program and the way she pampers her dog's, I seriously doubt she makes any money what so ever off her dog's. She breeds them because she loves them.

This is totally a unsolicited rebuttal and Mary knows nothing of my writing this. You may feel free to contact me if you need any additional information on TeMar GS.

Clark McNutt
clarkhmcnutt@gmail.com

To this date: 04/08/2008

I have yet to receive the proper AKC paperwork from Mary Dygert (per contract). I still hold bogus CKC paperwork with a different name and tattoo number. Its been over 3 years-

If Mary Dygert of TeMar Shepherds cannot handle her own business paperwork, how is she allowed to handle paperwork for Sieger shows etc?

BUYER BEWARE

Mary,

Quit your crappy excuses. I purchased my pup from YOU! She has your kennel name. You sent her to me. She was NOT an import! How pathetic to make yourself the poor victim.

You've had three years now to make it right and alll you want to do is keep making excuses.

Be responsible and start taking responsilbilty for your actions. In the end, your only hurting yourself.

Thanks

Hello All

Brief overview, the dog in question was a co-bred pup, an import from Canada. I did not tattoo the dog & CKC did the paper work. The pup was vet checked before she flew.
If anyone is concerned about my breeding practices or the health of my dogs/pups I welcome you to just ask. I'll be more then happy to discuss it with you on a one on one.


Mary
TeMar Shepherds
503-651-3233
USA

I welcome your questions Emma. I too have been involved with the breed for several years in showing and training. This pup was the first German Shepherd I bought.

If you read my post, I took the pup to the vet several times for being very lethargic, very weak and wobbly (no energy). Her whole face was very swollen. These are all not normal for a pup! The pup failed the initial vet exam. This is not what a new pup owner should have to deal with! If I was the breeder and had sent a sick puppy, I would have no problem paying the vet fees.

Again, if you go to her web site it clearly shows that all pups come AKC. I bought this pup with a contract that states the pup will/would be AKC. Why I stress this is that I received false CKC paperwork over a year after I had the pup. Again, this paperwork has a dog of a different name and tattoo. I've contacted the breeder many times on getting the paperwork straightened out. This breeder will not.

I want the breeder to do the right thing. If Mary Dygert truly cared as she did prior to me buying the pup, then all this would not be happening. I tried talking with her at a Sieger show.Mary claimed she did not have time. We stayed in the same hotel. I could not get 2 minutes of her time.

I'm fully aware that $2,500 is a reasonable price for a quality show dog. I've spent many dollars taking this pup (from the first month I had her) to trainers and clubs. Every single on of them has told me not to bother with the b***h.

Please email me if you'd like to answer any other questions.

I would like to start off by saying I have never purchased a dog from this breeder, I do not know her, and I am not a breeder. I do however have considerable experiance with working German Shepard Dogs. This is not an attack on your report, but rather a few questions and comments regarding your puppy.

What were the emergency vists to the vet for? According to your post the puppy had a temp of 102. This is a normal temp for a dog. unfortunatly the dog tested positive for coccidia, but again this is not an emergency and is very common in puppies. If the puppy was tested for this at the breeders it could very well have tested negative as there may have been too few of the organisims to detect. Coccidia is in no way a sign of poor husbandry.

According to you the breeder stated the dog was born in Canada. Although you purchased the dog from the breeder in Oregon, the Dam may have been in Canada, or that both Sire and Dam may be registered in Canada. It sounds that you feel the purchase price of your pupppy was ridiculous, it is actually a reasonable price for a quality shepard.

I was also wondering how the puppy is not show quality? I am only asking as a fan of this wonderful breed. Good luck with your new baby.