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Complaint Review: Timeshare Rent Or Sell COM - El Cajon California

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My wife and I were told by their employee, Sheila Soto, that our vacation weeks in Hawaii would rent for $3,000 within 2 weeks, but of course, no guarantees. This sounded too good to be true, so I told her that. All she said was just sign up with them for $400, so they could prove to us that it is true.

However, we've been with them for almost two months now, so still no offers. When we called in to inquire on the status, they said we have our listing priced too high, and that if we lowered it, we could get it rented sooner.

First off, we were not the ones who asked for $3,000, their telemarketers are the ones who sold it at the price. I understand they need to put food on their tables, but going to the extent of saying one thing, and then not backing it up with action, to me, that's manipulation and bait and switch, which is illegal.

I am not blaming the employee, Sheila Soto, for her misrepresentation, as I am in sales also, so I know that's what the company trained her to say. My request is that the company be straight forward and realistic about their rental/sales quotes that they give to timeshare owners that they telemarket to.

It occurs to my wife and I that we got scammed, but I'm not sure whether that is their intention or not. I just wish that we saw the post of Report: #463748 on this company 2 months ago, so we wouldn't have to go through with doing business with this company.

My wife and I are committed to the cause of either making the situation work, in a way that the company takes on our request to reform their marketing message to reflect the facts and reality, or we will join forces with other timeshare owners to file lawsuits against this company for misrepresentation.

As for the employees being scammed too by not getting paid the income they were promised, I have not been aware of that until now. If that is indeed the case, please speak out to us timeshare owners, so we could work together to end the unethical practices of Timeshare Rent or Sell COM LLC.

Charlie
Mira Loma, California
U.S.A.

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#9 Consumer Comment

Timeshare Rent or Sell & Royal Elite Timeshare Scam

AUTHOR: DeborahM - ()

POSTED: Wednesday, June 18, 2014

We got a call from this company. They had buyers ready to buy our Royal Elite timeshare. We paid an upfront fee of $598 expecting to hear in the next day or so that our timeshare had been sold. So far, we have not received on phone call back. When we call them, they are not available to talk. Please check out these "people" thoroughly before giving them any money. They are very convincing. There should be a law that the money should be returned since they represented themselves in so many ways

 

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#8 UPDATE Employee

Timeshare Resale Scams

AUTHOR: We Can Help - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, October 22, 2010

If you have been a victim to a timeshare scam please give us a call for options on how to get your money back.  We are a consumer advocate group to help get your money back and fight back. We work with local attorney to fit your needs.  please check us out and give us a call you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.  www.fhaconsultings.com or call us at 877-212-2470.  Thank you good luck. Also tips on how to identified a scam.  Always call your resort and ask them if the company that promise to sell your resort have started the deed transfer paperwork.  If they have not heard from this company they you know its a scam

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#7 Consumer Comment

It is a rip off!

AUTHOR: Paula - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, October 22, 2010

The company had a good pitch, rent your timeshare and get paid for it for the cost of a listing fee of $600. Money back guaranteed if it's not rented within 6 months. All I had to do was sign a contract and verbally agree to do so. Completed everything in April and now it's October and no calls ever! The first time I called it was to confirm that they received everything that they needed, in April and they said yes. The second time I called them in August, to check the status of my listing, I lowered the rental price when I didn't have to but I thought it would help it sell faster. October rolls in and I called to let them know that I want my full refund because it's been six months and no one has ever called interested to rent! The phone girl was rude, she doesn't know how to handle unsatisfied customers, hung up on me! I called to speak with her superior and she had no resolution for me. I am very dissatisfied, angry, and feel scammed because they said they can't help me. Now they are saying they never received my letter of authorization which I sent in everything they mailed me AND called to make sure if there was anything I needed to do, and they said no! So what do they expect, to have a happy customer? Of course I was angry and gave them a piece of my mind. It's obvious they don't work for a reputable company because they didn't know how to handle the situation and said they can't help me, period. Do yourself a favor and do not do business with them. Copied and pasted this recent review of BBB: BBB issues Reliability Reports on all businesses, whether or not they are BBB accredited. If a business is a BBB Accredited Business, it is stated in this report.

BBB Accreditation This business is not a BBB Accredited Business.

BBB Rating Based on BBB files, this business has a BBB Rating of D-.

Reasons for this D- rating include Length of time business has been operating 49 complaints filed against business Length of time business has taken to resolve complaint(s).

Business Contact & Profile TIMESHARERENTORSELL COM LLC BestResortRentalAndSale.com

1685 E Main St #201 El Cajon, CA 92021

Date Established: 1/1/2007

Phone Number: (619) 401-1002 (888) 921-8733

Fax Number: (619) 401-1024

URL: http://www.bestresortrentalandsale.com

Email Address: coo@bestresortrentalandsale.com

Type of Business: TIMESHARE COMPANIES

Products & Services This company offers internet, timeshare, condo, vacation home rental and sale by owner. .

Customer Complaint History When considering complaint information, please take into account the business's size and volume of transactions, and understand that the nature of complaints and a firm's responses to them are often more important than the number of complaints.

BBB processed a total of 49 complaints about this business in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period.

These complaints concerned Advertising Issues, Contract Disputes, Customer Services Issues, Delivery Issues, Guarantee Or Warranty Issues, Refund Or Exchange Issues, Selling Practices and Service Issues.

14 were closed as Administratively Closed and 35 were closed as Resolved.

As a matter of policy, BBB does not endorse any product, service or business.

BBB Reliability Reports are provided solely to assist you in exercising your own best judgment. Information in this BBB Reliability Report is believed reliable, but not guaranteed as to accuracy.

BBB Reliability Reports generally cover a three-year reporting period. BBB Reliability Reports are subject to change at any time.

If you choose to do business with this business, please let the business know that you contacted the BBB for a BBB Reliability Report.

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#6 General Comment

Rebuttal to Employee George58

AUTHOR: Hogpaynter - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, February 11, 2010

Hey George58,

I checked out your company with the BBB like stated in your rebuttal.  Your company IS NOT rated an A, IT IS RATED A F...   This companies accreditation with the BBB was revoked on 8/19/09.  At that time there were 24 complaints file against Timeshare rent or sell, also known as Vacation Tree.  Luckily I checked this out before sending any money.

Nice try George58, how much did you get paid to make your post?????????

 

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#5 Consumer Comment

Rebuttal of the rebuttal

AUTHOR: LC - (USA)

POSTED: Tuesday, October 20, 2009

I'm writing to rebut the rebuttal written by George58, who, I assume is somehow affiliatated with the company timeshareforrentorsell.com.  My wife and I were also victims of this company's unscrupulous business practices.  It started with several phone messages left by company representatives claiming to be able to immediately rent our timeshare.  We ignored several of these messages before finally calling and investigating.  We spoke with a representative named "Jason", who by the way, just happened to conveniently leave the company just prior to our complaint.  Jason assured us that we would be able to rent our timeshare immediately and that within 2 weeks would receive a check for $9,000.  He also told us that he had immediate buyers for our timeshare which he claimed would sell for $30,000.  He said that within 24 hours we would be sent a contract essentially stating what he had stated verbally on the phone.  After speaking with him on the phone we agreed to pay their fee and charged it to our American Express card. 
The contract wasn't faxed to us until 5 days after we spoke with Jason on the phone.  The contract was a joke.  It made all kinds of disclaimers about things that might have been said by company representatives.  There were other terms and conditions that directly contradicted the verbal representations made by Jason, the company representative.  We attempted to contact Jason via phone for several days with no success.  Finally, a week later, another company representative informed us that Jason had left the company to "pursure other career opportunities".  No question in our mind that this company employs unscrupulous business practices and for George58 to blame that on untrained and inexperienced employees is just a joke.  I have no doubt that those representations were purposely made and with managements total support and backing.
The thing I would really like to draw readers' attention to is the part of George's rebuttal where he suggests that the company prides itself on it's A- rating by the San Diego Better Business Bureau and then proceeds to make it convenient for readers to find their way to the San Diego Better Business Bureau website so they can read all of the good reports.   Well, what might have been an A- rating back in July of 2009 is now an "F" rating (effective 8/19/09.  I've been in touch with the San Diego Better Business Bureau and learned that they have withdrawn their accreditation from this company because of the number of unanswered complaints since July 2009 and the fact that the company now refuses to even respond to any complaint forwarded from the BBB.  Check it out for yourselves....go to  (((Redacted))) and do a search on "timesharerentorsell.com"....it's all there in black and white.
At the present time we are fighting the charges on our Amex account with the help of the folks at American Express.  We have forwarded all of our complaints as well as any other documented complaints we can find to the dispute resolution department of AMEX.  If necessary, I am prepared to take legal action to recover my cost and at this point in time I don't care if it cost twice as much in legal fees just to make a point.   I even wrote a personal letter to Robert Sussman, Chief Operating Officer of Timesharerentorsell.com to complain about his company's practices and never received a response from the guy.  I also filed a complaint with the California Attorney General who was kind enough to respond to my inquiry.  I'm not prepared to disclose the nature of their response but it was positive. 
If you have or are considering having any dealings with this company "Good Luck".
 

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#4 UPDATE Employee

THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON RENTING OR SELLING TIMESHARES

AUTHOR: George58 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 26, 2009

In reference to this ad I would like to state the correct information regarding the employee Sheila. Some of the information that the gentleman has provided is not fully correct. Yes, we do have some representatives that just started with the company and may not know the full details on how to quote a customer correctly. Therefore, it is their job to transfer the client over to an inventory specialist so the client would be able to get an accurate quote on their property or properties. We do have guarantees on our Gold Star guarantee rental program and also we have 100% money back guarantee as well. We have various fees depending on your property and how many properties you have and if you are wanting to just do a lifetime guarantee rental, or just a sale , or both rental and sale. Sometimes we have clients who can't afford our guarantee rental program for example the guy who listed with Sheila and all he wanted to do was put it on our website because that is all he could afford. If you want our full listing on 5 of the top newspapers in the US, print magazines, corporate market at conventions and trade shows, and on a commercial for our company then you will have to pay more for the service. Timeshares are not considered real-estate like a house or a building so therefore, no company out there can take the money after the property is rented or sold. There are internet listing agencies out there where all they do is put your property on the internet and it just sits there because it is being marketed to the general public and just on the internet. The amount of exposure we provide for you and the corporations we market to is why our properties have been moving very quickly, assuming the price is quoted correctly on your property. We have an A- rating with the BBB with two complaints and we have been in business since 2004. Both complaints have been resolved as well. We also are with ARDA stands for American Resort Development Association an organization who developed all resorts and vacation properties. Its also the best credentials you can get in this timeshare business. OK so for the people who don't know how to get on the BBB to check out a business' status I made it easy for you just look below. If you have any further questions about this ad I have posted feel free to contact me I am one of the inventory specialists here at Timesharerentorsell Com, LLC 1(888)921-8733 ext:253
JUST COPY AND PASTE ITS THAT SIMPLE:

http://sandiego.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=26&bbb=1186&firm=171991205



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Business Address: 1685 E Main St #201
El Cajon, CA 92021

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#3 UPDATE Employee

THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON RENTING OR SELLING TIMESHARES

AUTHOR: George58 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 26, 2009

In reference to this ad I would like to state the correct information regarding the employee Sheila. Some of the information that the gentleman has provided is not fully correct. Yes, we do have some representatives that just started with the company and may not know the full details on how to quote a customer correctly. Therefore, it is their job to transfer the client over to an inventory specialist so the client would be able to get an accurate quote on their property or properties. We do have guarantees on our Gold Star guarantee rental program and also we have 100% money back guarantee as well. We have various fees depending on your property and how many properties you have and if you are wanting to just do a lifetime guarantee rental, or just a sale , or both rental and sale. Sometimes we have clients who can't afford our guarantee rental program for example the guy who listed with Sheila and all he wanted to do was put it on our website because that is all he could afford. If you want our full listing on 5 of the top newspapers in the US, print magazines, corporate market at conventions and trade shows, and on a commercial for our company then you will have to pay more for the service. Timeshares are not considered real-estate like a house or a building so therefore, no company out there can take the money after the property is rented or sold. There are internet listing agencies out there where all they do is put your property on the internet and it just sits there because it is being marketed to the general public and just on the internet. The amount of exposure we provide for you and the corporations we market to is why our properties have been moving very quickly, assuming the price is quoted correctly on your property. We have an A- rating with the BBB with two complaints and we have been in business since 2004. Both complaints have been resolved as well. We also are with ARDA stands for American Resort Development Association an organization who developed all resorts and vacation properties. Its also the best credentials you can get in this timeshare business. OK so for the people who don't know how to get on the BBB to check out a business' status I made it easy for you just look below. If you have any further questions about this ad I have posted feel free to contact me I am one of the inventory specialists here at Timesharerentorsell Com, LLC 1(888)921-8733 ext:253
JUST COPY AND PASTE ITS THAT SIMPLE:

http://sandiego.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=26&bbb=1186&firm=171991205



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Business Name:
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Business Address: 1685 E Main St #201
El Cajon, CA 92021

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#2 UPDATE Employee

THE CORRECT INFORMATION ON RENTING OR SELLING TIMESHARES

AUTHOR: George58 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 26, 2009

In reference to this ad I would like to state the correct information regarding the employee Sheila. Some of the information that the gentleman has provided is not fully correct. Yes, we do have some representatives that just started with the company and may not know the full details on how to quote a customer correctly. Therefore, it is their job to transfer the client over to an inventory specialist so the client would be able to get an accurate quote on their property or properties. We do have guarantees on our Gold Star guarantee rental program and also we have 100% money back guarantee as well. We have various fees depending on your property and how many properties you have and if you are wanting to just do a lifetime guarantee rental, or just a sale , or both rental and sale. Sometimes we have clients who can't afford our guarantee rental program for example the guy who listed with Sheila and all he wanted to do was put it on our website because that is all he could afford. If you want our full listing on 5 of the top newspapers in the US, print magazines, corporate market at conventions and trade shows, and on a commercial for our company then you will have to pay more for the service. Timeshares are not considered real-estate like a house or a building so therefore, no company out there can take the money after the property is rented or sold. There are internet listing agencies out there where all they do is put your property on the internet and it just sits there because it is being marketed to the general public and just on the internet. The amount of exposure we provide for you and the corporations we market to is why our properties have been moving very quickly, assuming the price is quoted correctly on your property. We have an A- rating with the BBB with two complaints and we have been in business since 2004. Both complaints have been resolved as well. We also are with ARDA stands for American Resort Development Association an organization who developed all resorts and vacation properties. Its also the best credentials you can get in this timeshare business. OK so for the people who don't know how to get on the BBB to check out a business' status I made it easy for you just look below. If you have any further questions about this ad I have posted feel free to contact me I am one of the inventory specialists here at Timesharerentorsell Com, LLC 1(888)921-8733 ext:253
JUST COPY AND PASTE ITS THAT SIMPLE:

http://sandiego.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=26&bbb=1186&firm=171991205



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Business Address: 1685 E Main St #201
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#1 UPDATE Employee

false information

AUTHOR: George58 - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, July 26, 2009

In reference to this ad I would like to state the correct information regarding the employee Sheila. Some of the information that the gentleman has provided is not fully correct. Yes, we do have some representatives that just started with the company and may not know the full details on how to quote a customer correctly. Therefore, it is their job to transfer the client over to an inventory specialist so the client would be able to get an accurate quote on their property or properties. We do have guarantees on our Gold Star guarantee rental program and also we have 100% money back guarantee as well. We have various fees depending on your property and how many properties you have and if you are wanting to just do a lifetime guarantee rental, or just a sale , or both rental and sale. Sometimes we have clients who can't afford our guarantee rental program for example the guy who listed with Sheila and all he wanted to do was put it on our website because that is all he could afford. If you want our full listing on 5 of the top newspapers in the US, print magazines, corporate market at conventions and trade shows, and on a commercial for our company then you will have to pay more for the service. Timeshares are not considered real-estate like a house or a building so therefore, no company out there can take the money after the property is rented or sold. There are internet listing agencies out there where all they do is put your property on the internet and it just sits there because it is being marketed to the general public and just on the internet. The amount of exposure we provide for you and the corporations we market to is why our properties have been moving very quickly, assuming the price is quoted correctly on your property. We have an A- rating with the BBB with two complaints and we have been in business since 2004. Both complaints have been resolved as well. We also are with ARDA stands for American Resort Development Association an organization who developed all resorts and vacation properties. Its also the best credentials you can get in this timeshare business. OK so for the people who don't know how to get on the BBB to check out a business' status I made it easy for you just look below. If you have any further questions about this ad I have posted feel free to contact me I am one of the inventory specialists here at Timesharerentorsell Com, LLC 1(888)921-8733 ext:253
JUST COPY AND PASTE ITS THAT SIMPLE:

http://sandiego.bbb.org/WWWRoot/Report.aspx?site=26&bbb=1186&firm=171991205



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Length of time business has been operating
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Business Name:
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Business Address: 1685 E Main St #201
El Cajon, CA 92021

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