Complaint Review: Two Poor Teachers - Internet
- Two Poor Teachers Internet United States of America
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- Web: twopoorteachers.com
- Category: Builders & Contractors
Two Poor Teachers bullying, bait and switch, false promises and threatening legal tactics Internet
*Consumer Comment: Bad Character
*Consumer Comment: Company owner mugshots
*Author of original report: False statements in rebuttals
*General Comment: This Lady lives in our condo building
*General Comment: This Lady lives in our condo building
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Individual making initial report is not accurate contact our office for more information
*UPDATE Employee: This report does not include all the proper details...
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This company very convincingly sold a moderate-priced bathroom remodel in a dire situation (damage done by previous contractor who had already ripped off customer), customer was working and going to graduate school full time, little money. The day job started, customer unable to negotiate a change order that doubled the price of the job. A 'go-ahead' was reluctantly given, but details were requested - these were never delivered. Assurances for full remodel made, promise of a vent fan installation - never done. Job was stopped - no shower curtain rod, no painting, door off hinges, looked very unfinished, but when customer raised questions and concerns, the company president sent threatening emails. He said that customer needed to cease defamatory remarks or he would file a lawsuit. He also said that payment must be made within five days or a lawsuit would be filed. The bill was impossible to decipher, materials list looked like a data dump from a system (Home Depot) and could not be interpreted. Project Manager was next fired, and never came to speak with customer about grievances. Finally a General Manager came and he offered to go through and to settle this. He said he would paint, go through a full punch list, and fix the billing (customer was clearly to his admission, being charged for items that should not have been in the bill). He reduced a very small amount from the total bill, and next demanded payment the same day, or it would go to court.
Customer attempted to make a slightly lower and what felt like a more fair counter-offer, but General Manager refused this - saying it could not be done. He essentially used the same tactics that the previous Project Manager and bully president of the company had used as a 'bait and switch.' He took absolutely no responsibility for the very poor contract - which he admitted was not the way he would have done the contract - yet there it was, and then he insisted that I pay almost the full amount (he knocked it down about 10% from $9200 to $6700 - but some of the charges taken off were things that the company did NOT do, or that should not have been billed in the first place (materials returned for example).
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/19/2012 08:26 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/two-poor-teachers/internet/two-poor-teachers-bullying-bait-and-switch-false-promises-and-threatening-legal-tactics-900074. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content
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#7 Consumer Comment
Bad Character
AUTHOR: Allen - (United States)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 23, 2019
Kenneth Nies, the owner of Two Poor Teacher's is a very violent and threatening man. He thinks he is above the law and uses his resources to intimidate people as well as get himself out of trouble. He has been arrested several times. Those arrests range from DUI to battery's/physical violence. Which also includes abuse of his spouse. He done work for me in the past and when I confronted him about the problems I had with the work he threatened me and told me there was nothing I could do about it. Don't take my word for it. Simply search "Kenneth Nies arrest FL"

#6 Consumer Comment
Company owner mugshots
AUTHOR: Carol - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 08, 2017
You may find it interesting to note that the owner of Two Poor Teachers has multiple arrests on record in Lee County, FL, which is his current principle residence. You can do a google search to find his mugshots online. His full name is Kenneth J. Nies, Jr. He has been arrested for battery twice and dui/drug possession once. Just lets you know the character of this person.

#5 Author of original report
False statements in rebuttals
AUTHOR: Ann - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 03, 2012
This is merely for the protection of the reader: Although it is believed that the rebuttals speak for themselves, it should be noted that:
The rebuttal of Ken Nies contained false statements as follows:
For his point #1. NO SUCH FALSE CLAIMS were made regarding previous contractor,
2. NO ILLEGAL INSURANCE CLAIMS WERE FILED,
3. ALL PERMITS WERE CORRECTLY DONE per code, nothing was undisclosed
4. NO SUCH EMAIL EVER WRITTEN nor statement made -
5. NO SUCH 'HISTORY' WITH CONDO association, only cooperation and compliance..ask them.
6. NO LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST CONTRACTOR WAS EVER LOST and no such disclosure ever made...
-CUSTOMER NEVER THREATENED NON-PAYMENT - merely had questions about the bill, punch-list
- the only belligerence was from this individual (KEN NIES) - it can be read in his statements
The rebuttal of Jeff Pregman contained a few false statements as well:
I had made it clear that I was unavailable by phone during the weekdays and weeknights. He was supposed to EMAIL the data per our conversation. I NEVER RECEIVED AN EMAIL but a series of phone calls. He was very unfriendly at this time - a complete 180-switch from in-person behavior.
NO PROMISE OF NEVER SPEAKING OF THIS WAS MADE - I have rights, and I even indicated that I would file a complaint - to which he correctly indicated that he could not stop me from doing so. He in fact agreed that the contract written by his company was POOR, and should have never been set forth on company letterhead
LASTLY: From speaking with neighbors,NO ONE I KNOW wrote this last report - which is included in the record twice. Therefore, I consider this posting FALSE as well, or FABRICATED as no one who in fact knows me would say this
My first and last experience with such a website - never again. Will stick to filing with Better Business Bureau, etc.

#4 General Comment
This Lady lives in our condo building
AUTHOR: Owner Two Poor Teachers Inc. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 28, 2012
Guys if you read this, My wife and I feel your pain.... Ms. Pease has been nothing but a headache for entire condo association... I still cannot believe she is a teacher...
We had problems with Tricia as we live across from regarding several issues...
My wife cringes (SP) when she see's her walking up...

#3 General Comment
This Lady lives in our condo building
AUTHOR: Owner Two Poor Teachers Inc. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, June 28, 2012
Guys if you read this, My wife and I feel your pain.... Ms. Pease has been nothing but a headache for entire condo association... I still cannot believe she is a teacher...
We had problems with Tricia as we live across from regarding several issues...
My wife cringes (SP) when she see's her walking up...

#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Individual making initial report is not accurate contact our office for more information
AUTHOR: Owner Two Poor Teachers Inc. - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 26, 2012
It is with deep regret that we have to respond to unethical and untrue attacks this day and age to help salvage our reputation.
Patricia Pease was refered to us by another Teacher for whom we had worked for. Unfortunately and regretably......
If anyone has any question about the integrity of this report, we would be happy to share with you the Contract, the now public emails from the indiviual, agreed upon change orders in question, the Condo Association where the individual resides to be a Character reference.
Had Ms. Pease been upfront about her previous history. 1)the previous contractors left not fired, 2) the insurance claims she was illegally trying to obtain from hiring an illegal contractor who quit that they denied 3) an open permit that was not disclosed 4) materials that she was to have onsight but stated in an email she couldnt afford but would reimburse us for 5) the condo association which was difficult to work with because of her history with them on all levels 6) The lawsuit she had filed in the past against another reputable contractor in which she had lost, we would not have put our reputation on the line.
It wasnt until the job was completed and wanted us to assist in writing a letter regarding a previous contractor to obtain insurance funds, that the individual begun to threaten us with non-payment. We notified her that it was in the best interest of both parties to work out a payment plan rather than us file a mechanics lein for the first time in our 14 yr company hostory.
Unfortunately, the day we started the job, Patricia Pease became beligerent in her emails and the her phone calls. We, as a reputable contractor, had the obligation by the State of Viriginia to finish the agreed work we were contracted to perform.
Please contact our office for any information regarding Patricia Pease's complaint, we will accomodate.

#1 UPDATE Employee
This report does not include all the proper details...
AUTHOR: Jeff Pregman - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Prior to work commencing:
The customer was offered a refund of her deposit amount prior to any work being completed. It was offered within 10 minutes of the owner of this company seeing the project at 7am on the first morning of the job. The original Project Coordinator who sold the job grossly underbid the project. The owner offered a full refund of the deposit amount immediately. He also offered another option to complete the work for the proper amount (a change order of $3500). The customer agreed to the change order. There was no "bait and switch." We apologized for any inconvenience, but realized we would not be able to complete the project for the amount on the contract. We offered a full refund of the deposit amount. The project coordinator was fired and no longer works for our very reputable company. Unfortunately the damage had been done already.
After project completion:
I, the General Manager, for the company stepped in to try to resolve any issues and bring final resolution and closure to the project. I spent three hours with the customer trying to get final punch list items resolved, going through the contract and trying to resolve any issues. To set the record straight, the project was completed on time (we were delayed one day by the HOA who was scheduled to shut off the water supply, but never showed), on budget (we billed her for the contract amount, minus her deposit, plus the $3500 change order, plus the materials purchased for the project), and it was completed to her satisfaction.
To rebut her points:
Painting - was not part of the contract / Door - the door was hung and we even fixed it so it closed properly / shower curtain rod - not listed on the contract
Attempted Resolution:
The day after the meeting with the customer/GM, the 5 punch list items were completed to her satisfaction. I told her I would email a new spreadsheet (containing a full list of materials purchased) along with an updated invoice the following day. I called and left 3 messages from 3pm-9pm asking for a call back because I had good news. No response from the customer all weekend. Got a text on Monday afternoon and finally a call later that afternoon. Explained that we had some returned materials ($325) that was not included in the original bill due to an issue with one of our vendors. Apologized and included it in this updated invoice. Also offered a refund on the vent fan installation that was not completed due to lack of existing ductwork (which was clearly detailed in the change order document). Along with those refunds, I offered a further reduction of the amount owed ($1200) which brought her total to $6700. I then offered her an additional $150 off to pay my painter to have it painted (which was not included in our contract or change order documents). The amount of settlement far exceeds 10%.
I explained that I had been trying to contact her for days to offer the settlement, resolve the issue and send her an updated invoice. I stated that I needed an answer asap. The owner was done negotiating and was ready to have the issue resolved in court. I had already stretched her timeframe out through the weekend and all day Monday. I gave her 24 hours to look over the revised invoice and make a decision. There was no pressure from me. Our policy (which is stated clearly in the terms and conditions section of our contract) states that payment is due in full 5 days from receipt of the invoice.
She called me the next day to try to renegotiate the settlement. I told her that our settlement offer was final. She could take the reduced amount or she could pay in full and sue us for breach of contract. She agreed and I accepted the payment that afternoon. I understood from our conversations that along with acceptance of this settlement offer, it was agreed that she would refrain from discussing the project or the settlement offer with anyone. Now I find this report online less than 24 hours after her acceptance of the settlement.
This customer had a bad experience with another contractor. We made a mistake in the bid process and per our contract terms and conditions have the right to return the deposit and cancel the contract. In retrospect I wish we had done that. But we are a good company and we were trying to help her out of the hole she was in. The old saying really is true, "No good deed goes unpunished."


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