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Report: #632364

Complaint Review: USA Today Leads - Internet

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  • Reported By: Debt Free Solutions — Long Beach California United States of America
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The first couple of days of contacting this company they were very easy to get a hold of on the phone and replied to emails promptly.  Once we agreed upon the telemarketing service, we signed the contract and sent them a wire transfer.  The day we told them we were sending the wire transfer was the last I was able to contact them (13Aug2010).

Now, it's the 18Aug2010 and for the past few days I have been calling almost non-stop and have not been able to get anybody on the phone.  The woman I talked to the entire time was a woman named "Tiffinay." 

I have left dozens of voicemails and emails and none of them have been answered or replied to.  On their website I even found out that they are plagiarizing another lead generation company named LeadOrder.  I looked up LeadOrder's website and it seems that USA Today Leads simply copy and pasted what was on the other's website onto their own.  Didn't know until it was too late.  If anyone is filing a class action lawsuit let us know please.  Beware, this company also goes by other names and is supposedly a sister company to Marketing Resources LLC.

If anyone has any information on them please contact me asap at (((REDACTED))) CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report. .  Thank you

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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

False

AUTHOR: deutsch - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, April 11, 2011

We never generated leads under USA today leads nor had any clients in the lead business under USA today leads. The company was strictly an advertisement company. There was never any "Tiffany" that worked for us. 

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#4 Author of original report

Update on fraudulent company

AUTHOR: DFSolutions - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, September 21, 2010

Many attempts have been made to contact this company, but no contact has been established.  The only phone number we have is 877-899-2071.  Also, the only email address we have is sales@debtleads4less.com.

We paid $250 and we were told in our last conversation on the phone with them that "they were never supposed to approve our small campaign and they would refund our money back to us."

It has been over 2 weeks and no contact has been established.  We have sent dozens of emails, made multiple calls almost everyday to the only phone number we have.  We have left dozens of voicemail messages and emails giving them multiple phone numbers and email addresses they can use to contact us.

We simply want our money back for services not rendered. 

If you check their website www.debtleads4less.net, you'll notice the page is disabled now.  This happened recently.  Also, their sister site www.mortgageleads4less.com has a few surprises.  If you copy and paste any random sentences from their website into a search engine, you will find that they have copy and pasted most of their content from other websites.  One website in fact is www.exclusive-mortgage-leads.org/live-transfer-leads.php. 

This company also goes by another name USA Today Leads.  The website they used to have does not exist anymore.  A simple search on google for "USA Today Leads" results in only one relevant search, their company twitter account (which is being actively twitter'd on - most recent tweet was September 25th).  If you have ever sent money to a company called Marketing Resources LLC, then you sent money to the same place as we did.

We attempted to do have our bank retrieve our funds that we wired to their company, our bank informed us that the account did not have sufficient funds to facilitate the refund ourselves.  Why would a company who "has thousands of companies paying them thousands of dollars every month" have an account with less than $250?  Can anyone answer that question?

This company is obviously shady at best.  As soon as we send the money they stop answering their phone calls.  An initial ripoff report actually gets them to send us an email.  Now their website is disabled and their main USA Today Leads website has disappeared.  No replies, no phone calls.

It does not matter what country we are in right now.  We paid money for a service that was not rendered.  Therefore, we are entitled to a refund.  Simple as that. 

We will be reporting this fraud to the BBB, the FTC, their state attorney general, and any other federal/non-federal agencies we can to inform the public on this company to hopefully prevent anything like this from happening in the future.

Moral of the story:  It's not right to steal money.

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#3 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Finally we get the real story!

AUTHOR: Sales support - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, August 24, 2010

This "overseas" debt settlement company in Manilla, wires us $250 dollars to our US account, which we told them that we do NOT take wires from over seas in the first place, and if we did they go to a special assigned account. They promise us that they won't be doin an overseas wire and will just make a deposit from the States,  as they do business in California, but it is cheaper to operate in Manilla.....yeah okay....whatever.

Well, they ask for 10 live transfer debt leads @ $25 each on Thursday the 12th of August, and this man "andrew" tells our rep Tiffinay that he will have his partner in the states deposit the $250 for the 10 leads.  Tiffinay tells this man that we normally do not take orders under $500, but if he wanted the leads he was ordering on Thursday and FRIDAY, because FRIDAYS are slow and most of our clients do not take leads, then we would fill the order, AND THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE THE ORDER! 

Tiffinay, the sales rep offers to stay late on FRIDAY to make sure the deposit IS FINALLY MADE, because on THURSDAY THE 12TH THE DEPOSIT WAS NEVER MADE AS PROMISED BY CLIENT.  She leaves @ 6 pm ON FRIDAY AUGUST 13 and no deposit was ever shown to have been made, hence the schedule did not have "Andrew's" overseas debt relief company scheduled for any leads.  Tiffinay did this as a favor to the cleint, as she knew Fridays were slow and that was the only reason she accepted the small order.

Needless to say Tiffinay left for vacation for two days, well deserved as she has been with the company for 7 years almost now. She returned on Wednesday August 18th and immediately contacted the man Andrew from the Manilla company.  She explained why she was out Monday and Tuesday, and how she had stayed late on Friday the 13th afternoon to confirm his payment that never showed. The payment finally posted on Monday August 16th. 

At this time Management took over and simply offered this company the $250 refund as there is a $500 min. policy.  It was wrong for this overseas company to discredit our organization, call us thieves, scammers etc.... very unprofessional, all over $250 we received on August 16th and they make this complaint on the 17th.

We strongly believe they are associated with a competitor that promoted them to post a report against us, when we had done nothing wrong.

My advise.......NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH OVERSEAS COMPANIES, IT USUALLY ENDS UP BAD, AS IN THIS CASE.  THEY GO BY DEBT FREE AMERICA, OR DEBT FIX AMERICA, AND I WOULD ASSUME THEY ARE THE SCAMMERS...BUT THEN AGAIN, WHO AM I TO JUDGE.....AN OVERSEAS COMPANY IN MANILLA TRYING TO CONTACT AMERICANS TO FREE THEM OF DEBT????  YOU MAKE THE CALL. 

THANK YOU.

 

 

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

NOT FLY-BY-NIGHT CO. IN BUSINESS SINCE 1998

AUTHOR: Sales support - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 18, 2010

TO WHOM EVER THIS CONCERNS MR./MRS LONG BEACH, CA, SO YOU SAY:  WE HAVE BEEN PROVIDING MORTGAGE LEADS TO THE FINANCIAL INDUSTRY SINCE 1998 AND HAVE A B+ RATING W/ THE BBB. GET YOUR STORY STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START BAD MOUTHING A DECENT COMPANY.

OWNER- DAVID ALIBERTI

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#1 UPDATE Employee

DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS IS REGARDING!

AUTHOR: Sales support - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, August 18, 2010

IF THIS IS A COMPETITOR PLAYING GAMES, WE WILL FIND OUT WHO YOU ARE. IF YOU ARE A COMPANY THAT DID NOT GET WHAT YOU ORDERED THEN PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF.  SEND ME AN EMAIL DIRECTLY TO TIFFINAY OR CALL ME DIRECT AS YOU MUST HAVE MY NUMBER!

I HAVE JUST RETURNED FROM A THREE DAY VACATION TODAY AND DO NOT HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THIS IS CONCERNING, BUT THIS IS CERTAINLY NOT THE WAY TO GO ABOUT ADDRESSING THE SITUATION PROFESSIONALLY.

COME OUT AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF! I'LL BE WAITING FOR YOUR CALL ALL DAY!

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