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Complaint Review: Wilson Luna - Nationwide

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  • Reported By: Karen — Brisbane Other
  • Wilson Luna Nationwide USA

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I went to the 10 August 2014 Gold 2 day Coast event. Beware! Do not allow yourself to be taken in by this manipulator.

He plays with emotions and abuses NLP techniques to pursuade. Check out some of his you tubes = that's how emotional people get & also listen to the claps & whoops that his 'disciples' used to break into your head. He uses whatever he can to manipulate you via a well worked out process = firstly purchase a set of 'limited edition' & 'personally signed' set of books (that he says is an investment -- RLOL!). Said he only had 57 left - haha - it's too funny to explain what happens the next day when he's still selling these books - but there were plenty more! He makes people who signed feel special as his special 'VIPs' - BUT only so he can sign them on to his so-called entrepreneur mentoring program at either $5500 (up front) or $6500 (via payment plan). There is NO documented information about what they're signing up for = NONE!

As people raced up to purchase his books, I watched him, he eyes lit up just for a moment before he could compose himself again; that look that flashed in his eyes was excitement at how he was catching his prey.

His entire events are about signing people up to his so called program - I suspect he gets these people to sign up to a lot more at the so called 'CEO events' (I suspect used to be referred to as 'bootcamps'). I suggest to those who signup at the first event STOP right now - DO NOT give this deceitful man any more of your hard earned money.

He constantly says that he does not do personal development, he creates entrepreneurs - I wish I had a dollar for every time he repeated that over the 2 days - I'd be the millionaire (a term he also constantly) that he says he is - it's one of the many terms that he constantly uses to persuade.

He also uses the F_ck work constantly - I suspect its used to makes people feel like 'Let's get real here'. My goodness! I was also then hearing that word from the most lovely people who probably normally wouldn't say that as often outside that particular environment. :(

I figure that the $5000 per hour that he says he gets paid from 'high flying CEO's' is what he has calculated that he earns during these events when so many people sign up to all his 'programs'. There is no evidence, no testimonials - all you have to do is check his website = only 5 testimonials from his 'disciples' who probably have made it good (& that's great for them) but really there are no high-flying CEOs there like he makes out he consults to. To those PEOPLE who signed up to his program I believe that it's ACTUALLY YOU that he is talking about.

Although you might get some information that you could use but that's just all part of his game - for example,  dream big, which is great. I highly recommend that you just take that kind of motivation to inspire yourself & go get non-manipulative mentor/s. At least, promise yourself that you will not sign up for anything until you've taken yourself away from the hype for a week. There is NO RUSH!

There is so very much more I can say but one last item: he uses a guilt trip at the end of the day to sign up to his program when you are tired. I didn't attend the last 2 hours on 1st day (5-7pm'ish) but I asked a couple who did. Apparently he uses some guilt trip about if a relative needed some life-saving surgery would you find $30k to pay for it = people say 'YES!', then he says then 'why wouldn't you spend $1500' (ie; initial deposit of the $6500 mentoring program) to educate yourself for your business so you can make $millions. My goodness!

What a true manipulator this man is. PLEASE PEOPLE BEWARE do not allow yourself to be hoodwinked.

 

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#4 Consumer Comment

Wilson Robert Luna - Morally Corrupt

AUTHOR: Trudy - (Australia)

POSTED: Monday, May 11, 2015

I have to agree with all these comments. he is a total ripoff. He has no original content. he takes it all from Wayne Dyer and Tony Robbins. He has lied all about his past. He has never qualified as an accountant. He has never been a consultant to CEOs. Ask him to name one. He doesn't becasue he is a liar.

He uses NLP techniques to hynotise the audience and make them believe they are inadequate and that he has the answers. He preys on the vulnerable. Stay well away from this man!!!!

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#3 Consumer Comment

Wilson Luna - Scam Artist

AUTHOR: Claire - (Australia)

POSTED: Thursday, May 07, 2015

I attended his Sydney event paid $6500 to join his one year programme. At the free event he told us all how successful his members were. In fact when I spoke to many of his members who had been on the programme for years were broke and hadn't made a dime in their business.

 

This was shocking. Its all TALK!!! I asked for a refund and was refused point blank!!!!

 

Wilson Luna is a SCAM ARTIST - Stay Away!!!!

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#2 Consumer Comment

Wilson Luna - Fraudster

AUTHOR: Andy - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, May 06, 2015
I remembered the Facebook motivational speaker Wilson Luna, the "mover, shaker, millionaire-maker", who promises to make you into a millionaire for £5,000 chargeable upfront, or just under £6,000, if you pay by installments. If you have read my January 2013 blogs, you would know that I am not a big fan of the man.

Recently I have met people who have left his course and are now being threatened with legal action, in such an inept way that just does not make sense for someone who has had money... so I decided to look a bit deeper into it.

Luna says in his own profile, uploaded by him: "However Wilson Luna now knew the secrets to financial freedom and managed to go from here to go on and build three multimillion-dollar companies before the age of 35.

Nowadays Wilson Luna is the Author of 4 best sellers as well as launching Australia's largest independent business and money brand "Your Family Your Money". He has spent a decade being the 'go to' guy for business advice for top CEOs worldwide.

In previous years Wilson Luna was responsible for putting 8 out of the twenty three infant businesses onto the Australian FTSE as well as aiding over 90,000 individuals create real monetary RESULTS in their lives today both in Australia and now in the UK."

That's a direct quote from something Wilson Luna uploaded on the Internet about Wilson Luna. I haven't changed the spelling or anything else. 

So, true or false? 

Let's do some maths. 

Wilson Luna was born in November 1971, so simple maths show that he would be 35 in 2006. So all we need to do is find what he did before 2006.

The Internet was already part of our every-day lives, but unfortunately I could not find any mention on the Internet of Luna's rags to riches story, except for from Luna himself. 

The easiest way to check someone's company directorships in Australia is to go on the Dun and Bradstreet website, DNB Express, and see what they have to say. DNB is the world leading business intelligence and business risk assessment website. Their databases are up-to date and it's a go-to place for CEOs of Fortune 500 companies.

All you need to do is put in the person's name, pay them 56 dollars, and hey presto, the report is on your desktop.

Well... 

This section has been updated 23 March 2013, in an effort to eliminate "inaccuracies" that Kerrin Medenyak's email  of March 19 mentioned. It is hard to find exact information but here is another best shot. Apologies for earlier minor inaccuracies Kerrin. I also thought it would be  a good idea to disclose in full my sources of information, since they are useful business tools which are publicly available. 


In addition to the DNB report on Luna's directorships and shareholdings, the information below is obtained from the Australian Securities and Investment Commission Register (dates of formation, changes of name and dissolution) and ABN Lookup.  ABN Lookup is the public view of the Australian Business Register (ABR). It provides access to the publicly available information supplied by businesses when they register for an Australian Business Number (ABN). I also used Creditorwatch Australia as a second source of information for Luna Group Pty Ltd.

Luna has been director of three companies in total. Two of them are now dissolved.

The first company on the list was "Opulent Creations Pty Ltd" It was formed in May 1997, and was originally called Luna Holdings Pty Ltd. This link  on the IBN Lookup website says that the company cancelled its activities in 2005. It was officially dissolved in June 2007. You can jump to ASIC information from the ABN lookup screen. 

The next one on my list is "Sage Cleaning Services Pty Ltd". This is not a very millionaire making name, but I am keeping an open mind. Here is its history: 
 
22/05/2003
Formed Quan Consulting Group Pty Ltd
12/06/2003
Renamed Sage Consulting Group Pty Ltd 
16/08/2005
Renamed Sage Cleaning Services Pty Ltd
22/07/2007
Deregistered voluntarily under Section 601AA 
 
PS 25/2/13: just found out, from the horse's mouth, that before becoming a cleaning guru, Luna, the Facebook cheerleader and millionaire-creator, also was an insurance salesman and a tied agent for AXA:yourfamilyyourmoney.com/Media/FranchisingMagazine.htm Read the text next to his picture. 

And finally, Luna Group Pty Ltd: this one has survived from 2008, but moved three times... including its main business address which looks like a hotel room. It is now registered to a private apartment. But it was registered when Luna was 37, so well out of the time frame we are looking at.

The ABN lookup is here, and you can jump to ASIC from the ABN screen

PS 23/3/2013: There is a South African multi-million dollar company of virtually the same name, Luna Group (Pty) Ltd, but it was formed in 1976 when Luna was a toddler, and does not appear to have anything to do with him. I could not find any connections. So thank you for asking me to check it. 

So if this is what the top multimillionaire adviser's business CV looks like, I dread to think what's at the bottom of the barrel.

And the maths seriously don't add up.

The drums are off-beat, the cello needs a tuner.... show me the money Wilson Luna! 

 

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#1 Consumer Comment

Completely Agree

AUTHOR: Justaconcernedcustomer - ()

POSTED: Sunday, August 17, 2014

Hi,

I completely agree with you. I just attended the Sydney Event on the weekend and was horrified by the complete manipulation of the audience and in fact what I believe to be lies.

The session lacked any real business content, just a few basic motivational activities. I am actually a Business Strategy consultant, working for one of the big 4. We advise large blue chips on their strategy and I have never heard of Wilson before. In fact all strategy for large companies is done internally or by specific business strategy firms. It usually takes us 6 - 12 weeks to develop a strategy for a large firm. I doubt he charges $5000 an hour as you could get a partner from one of the top strategy firms for this price for a whole day... and I am also not sure what benefit you would get from him in an hour... it takes a while to accurately understand a business problems.

I asked him a few business related more challenging questions during the day... he had no idea and just told me I needed to sign-up for the course.

He also provided an example of professional services offshoring to India, which showed he had no idea.

 

He is a con artist and taking advantage of desperate people, who maybe don't have the business knowledge to critique his "ideas" realistically.

Like you, I feel there is a need to let people know before they loose $6,500.. you could do a decent course at Tafe or a University for that much :)

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