Wujido Waste of time Dallas Texas

Clint was a student of Chung Moo Do.

In the early days, I had regularly got students who had trained at the Chung moo do school since before 1990.  All of them were ruined as students.  Whatever had happened to them and I heard very terrible stories it ruined them for life.  I never found a person among them fit to train.

The period of time he attended as a student or spy, I do not know which.  His personal character was as a young man who indulged in drugs and alcohol.  Beyond that I cannot comment because I did not associate with hime but got reports from other students, many of whom are still with me more than 27 years past.

His Chung Moo Do school was nearby and inveseted a great deal in the kind of slander and libel and disparagement that goes on in this website in particular.  Every awful claim made here was made by them.  The history started in 1992 when I walked by the Chung Moo Do school walking the the movie theater, being a Martial Artist with a school about a mile away, I grabbed a brochure from the tray. Looked at it, curious. Walking back to my car some 20 yards I threw  way the brochure because the form was incorrect, the claims were false (I am a scholar and historian of kungfu and bushido so easy to recognize).  The Chung Moo Do black belt inside aparently saw me and came out the door putting on his black belt yelling at me trying to scare me and intimidate me. "Hey you, what do you think you're doing." I continued on until I got to my car and he was still approaching.  "You want to fight" I said, he took a stance and I took off my sport coat and did level 3 Tiger with a few moves so he could see what he was dealing with.  His jaw dropped open, his eyes grew wide and he turned around and ran back to his dojo and locked the door.  I laughed, got in my car, and drove away.  I did not have good impression.

Year later they were papering the lot of my school with their brochures, so when they had an open house some months later, I went to the open house, papered their lot with my brochures, went into the school which was packed and started handing out my brochures in front of their black belts and teachers.  They did nothing.

I left after having a cupcake and some cofee smiling at them.  Then later Clint showed up at my door.

another year passes, west end competition, 7 schools invited, Chingmoodo is sponsoring it with Chuck Norris I think.  I had a friend enroll us because I knew they would not allow us in.  The other six schools when they found out I was in the event; all 6 other schools pulled out.  So ChungMoodo, Wujido...showdown.  So I entered one person in the competition, a 10 year old boy.  ChungMooDo entered over 20 or so adults, teachers, kids, black belts.  Who won?  My 10 year old boy got first place.  Both schools did a demo after and before the event Chungmoodo told everyone "Dr Harkins is a Fake"  and after the event they told everyone that they should not train with Dr Harkins because "he is a killer and you will be killed!!!"

2 months later Chung Moo Do school was closed down.  How does that reflect poorly on my school?

After a few years open at the mockingbird location no school could survive in a 5-10 mile radius so a lot of schools closed down and Wujido grew to be in the top 10 schools and very successful.

It was about this time ror had noticed me and someone made a $$$ offer to get rid of content and I refused.

What is not known is the owner, at that time, was a felon and wanted in two states.  Can we say...scam?

Being the best and being a success generally means a lot of people attack you!  I accomplished this all the while ROR was attacking me with the wildest and most vile attacks.

Clint left the school after the event so i suspect he had an association with Chung Moo Do being there so i would not trust the word of someone of moral lowness and bad habits.

I teach 3 systems.  I have trained in many more.

1. Wujido=KongShouDao uses belts for ranks goes to 8th Dan

2. Yang s**+ Taijiquan.  I have studied under 6 Taiji masters, and also the Yang family.  I know their complete system and even the things they don't teach outsiders I know and I am more skilled and knowledgable that the current grandmaster Yang Jun with whom I spent 46 training hours with.  I teach the complete system

3. Wujiquan:  I am the world renowned and only true grandmaster of this art, recognized in China for being the one true mater of Wujiquan  cf. please refer to history of wujiquan on websites pertaining to Wujidomartial arts, Wujidonews, and so forth for additional information

I believe ror should be ashamed but there obviously can be no shame since their business model is to make money smearing businesses without the facts.  All this is due to legislation to protect google and others from being sued for libel.  Prior to the legislation the ror could not exist, they would be sued out of existance quickly.

This clint person was a student for a few months.  I have many thousands of students some for aslong as 22 years and they do not know even 20% of my system, so I do not think a dubeous character with a few months who was probably there to spy on the school should account for much.  I don't hold back, there is a lot to teach.

A Motive for a fake post?

He may also be very resentful what happened to his school and him as a result his lawless behavior.  By the way.  All Chung Moo Do branches were closed down and the mater (fake master) was arrested and tried for criminal fraud but honestly I don't know if he went to prison or was deported or what.

Doesn't matter now does it.  That is the story of this fellow Clint.  I don't know him. He was just somebody who was a disappointment as a human being.  He did not learn very much because his habits were terrible.

Chung Moo Do was around for many years before I was around, they were in Chicago and got run out after a student shot and killed one of their black belts.  Rumor had it that three black belts actually went to the persons house to intimidate them to pay a fee. I guess the person got frightened and shot one of them and then the City got involved and the school was kicked out.

Clint is part of ChungMooDo and his dirt and his reputation belongs to them.

The only thing I have to do with Chung Moo Do is that I hastened the desetruction of that terrible school.

These events happened a long time ago and they occured and all that happened and that I know about them and these events is here in brief with nothing left out.

Clint should be in his 40's by now.  I hope he has kicked his drug habit and stopped drinking and got a job.  I hope he has settled down with a family and maybe reformed himself.  I will be pleased if this is so. If he did not change I doubt he is even alive now or if so he would be in pretty rough shape.  People who live like him don't generally do that well in life.

Thank you for reading.

Hello, I am a former student of the Wujido Institute, and have read the complaints filed on this website and chose to respond to this one because it was the most recent, but I will keep all other posts in mind.

I attended this school for around 3 years or more, ranked a Green belt, and was very pleased with the instruction. Yes the "no observation policy" was a little disconcerting but I found the teaching and techniques to be quite effective. I have come to this conclusion due to the fact that I am currently studying a completely different Martial Art system, Japanese in fact (Genbukan Ninpo Bugei), and have encountered some of the same or very similar techniques taught by Wujido.

As far as the school not being a safe place to train, I strongly disagree. In all those years I never saw anyone get seriously hurt DUE TO IMPROPER INSTRUCTION. Of course when practicing any martial art, some minor injuries can be expected. I myself can remember jamming the h#ll out of my big toe, because I didn't pull it back far enough (something every white belt is taught).

Also I do not see how having senior students teaching juniors is bad. It helps both parties learn, I know from experience.

Now, with all that said, there are a few problems I had with my experience. In another report I read of a student who moved away for college and could not get out of the contract. This exact situation happened to me. I still had around 6 months left, and being young and a little naive, convinced my family to pay the rest, 1. out of pride to not go bad on a contract, 2. for respect to the school. I would have liked to have been able to work something more reasonable out, but sadly nothing did.

To prospective students I would say this. The training is good, the students teachers are good people. So if you can afford it and more importantly do so within a contract, than Wujido is a fine school. If contracts are not something that coincide with your situation then I would recommend somewhere else.

Respectfully to all who seek the truth,

Hello, I am a former student of the Wujido Institute, and have read the complaints filed on this website and chose to respond to this one because it was the most recent, but I will keep all other posts in mind.

I attended this school for around 3 years or more, ranked a Green belt, and was very pleased with the instruction. Yes the "no observation policy" was a little disconcerting but I found the teaching and techniques to be quite effective. I have come to this conclusion due to the fact that I am currently studying a completely different Martial Art system, Japanese in fact (Genbukan Ninpo Bugei), and have encountered some of the same or very similar techniques taught by Wujido.

As far as the school not being a safe place to train, I strongly disagree. In all those years I never saw anyone get seriously hurt DUE TO IMPROPER INSTRUCTION. Of course when practicing any martial art, some minor injuries can be expected. I myself can remember jamming the h#ll out of my big toe, because I didn't pull it back far enough (something every white belt is taught).

Also I do not see how having senior students teaching juniors is bad. It helps both parties learn, I know from experience.

Now, with all that said, there are a few problems I had with my experience. In another report I read of a student who moved away for college and could not get out of the contract. This exact situation happened to me. I still had around 6 months left, and being young and a little naive, convinced my family to pay the rest, 1. out of pride to not go bad on a contract, 2. for respect to the school. I would have liked to have been able to work something more reasonable out, but sadly nothing did.

To prospective students I would say this. The training is good, the students teachers are good people. So if you can afford it and more importantly do so within a contract, than Wujido is a fine school. If contracts are not something that coincide with your situation then I would recommend somewhere else.

Respectfully to all who seek the truth,

Hello, I am a former student of the Wujido Institute, and have read the complaints filed on this website and chose to respond to this one because it was the most recent, but I will keep all other posts in mind.

I attended this school for around 3 years or more, ranked a Green belt, and was very pleased with the instruction. Yes the "no observation policy" was a little disconcerting but I found the teaching and techniques to be quite effective. I have come to this conclusion due to the fact that I am currently studying a completely different Martial Art system, Japanese in fact (Genbukan Ninpo Bugei), and have encountered some of the same or very similar techniques taught by Wujido.

As far as the school not being a safe place to train, I strongly disagree. In all those years I never saw anyone get seriously hurt DUE TO IMPROPER INSTRUCTION. Of course when practicing any martial art, some minor injuries can be expected. I myself can remember jamming the h#ll out of my big toe, because I didn't pull it back far enough (something every white belt is taught).

Also I do not see how having senior students teaching juniors is bad. It helps both parties learn, I know from experience.

Now, with all that said, there are a few problems I had with my experience. In another report I read of a student who moved away for college and could not get out of the contract. This exact situation happened to me. I still had around 6 months left, and being young and a little naive, convinced my family to pay the rest, 1. out of pride to not go bad on a contract, 2. for respect to the school. I would have liked to have been able to work something more reasonable out, but sadly nothing did.

To prospective students I would say this. The training is good, the students teachers are good people. So if you can afford it and more importantly do so within a contract, than Wujido is a fine school. If contracts are not something that coincide with your situation then I would recommend somewhere else.

Respectfully to all who seek the truth,

Hello, I am a former student of the Wujido Institute, and have read the complaints filed on this website and chose to respond to this one because it was the most recent, but I will keep all other posts in mind.

I attended this school for around 3 years or more, ranked a Green belt, and was very pleased with the instruction. Yes the "no observation policy" was a little disconcerting but I found the teaching and techniques to be quite effective. I have come to this conclusion due to the fact that I am currently studying a completely different Martial Art system, Japanese in fact (Genbukan Ninpo Bugei), and have encountered some of the same or very similar techniques taught by Wujido.

As far as the school not being a safe place to train, I strongly disagree. In all those years I never saw anyone get seriously hurt DUE TO IMPROPER INSTRUCTION. Of course when practicing any martial art, some minor injuries can be expected. I myself can remember jamming the h#ll out of my big toe, because I didn't pull it back far enough (something every white belt is taught).

Also I do not see how having senior students teaching juniors is bad. It helps both parties learn, I know from experience.

Now, with all that said, there are a few problems I had with my experience. In another report I read of a student who moved away for college and could not get out of the contract. This exact situation happened to me. I still had around 6 months left, and being young and a little naive, convinced my family to pay the rest, 1. out of pride to not go bad on a contract, 2. for respect to the school. I would have liked to have been able to work something more reasonable out, but sadly nothing did.

To prospective students I would say this. The training is good, the students teachers are good people. So if you can afford it and more importantly do so within a contract, than Wujido is a fine school. If contracts are not something that coincide with your situation then I would recommend somewhere else.

Respectfully to all who seek the truth,

Jamie,

You had nothing to do with Chung Moo Doe closing. You did not compete with them either. It was a kick-a-thon for charity. Your school demonstrated last. No one cared about your martial art, just that you are off. The demonstration is on tape and no one cares.

Also, I have no reason to come to your dojo and school your students. That is your job. Please, quit being a slacker. Do what you do best. Stand and talk to your students until they are bored to tears.

You disrespectd me in your school. It was out of line. Im glad it happend because you have to learn from your mistakes. Walking through the door of your school was the mistake. But now I have moved on to bigger and better things. I practice nothing I learned from you. Main reason: it dosent work!

PS - Quit wining about ripoffreport, it makes you sound like a baby.

Yes it is I. Boz F. Texino. I have no desire to frighten anyone, but I know that some of you must feel like falling to the very dirt beneath your feet in order ot kow tow respect to me as is my due. Let us dispense with that, however because I have come to speak of other things and maybe to spread some good words. I admit that it has been a few years since I have been about so I might remind the people that I am the force who rules the most powerful fighting art in the universe-Panamanian Jufudo-the power fighting force of the Maya volcano tamers.

I simply cannot be stopped by any fightng style

and what is more. most weapon styles are ineffective in stopping me as well. I mean tasers, pepper sprays, small caliber pistols and knives. I take them all and remain undefeated just as I have done for the last 40 years. So please, I will ask you not to come here and dis repect the owner of this site. I do not care what your disagreement is; ED gives you a place to discuss it, so you will respect his place so long as you use it to air you trouble.
I am certain you understand.

Texino

c****y is the term I decided to use to describe
the loudmouthed, effeminate liar and
coward I believe c****y to be. Just my
opinion and I am sure he has redeeming
qualities. I have just never seen any.

c****y's insulting play on my own
name and in obscene emails are why I have not
used Clint Smith. It appears you
cannot take what you hope to dish out.

Short answer for your speculation
about how tough you are c****y.

Come by as soon as you feel brave enough
and we will see. The door is always open
for you to prove your boast.

Prove it.

Beyond that I don't think there is much to
say.

*****

there was another matter.

What people may not realize about the BBB is that they actually are a protection scam.

You pay them yearly dues and they keep your record free of negative reports. Whatever
complaints are made the reports are not posted.

They get only "there are no reports" unless of course they do something to piss the local chapter.

In this skam, it has nothing to do with the quality of business.

In the scam you are coerced to have them mediate
or get negative reports. Even when there are no
cases open as was the instance with our school.
3 year old unsettled(?) items (in our favor) were ressurected for the sole purpose of slandering the school because of a personal vendetta from the local chapter because when they tried to push us around we pushed back.

What they do is coerce the mediations in any event even if you are not a member and IF YOU REFUSE TO HIRE THEM TO MEDIATE with you, YOU ARE GIVEN A NEGATIVE REPORT.

It has nothing to do with anything other than this.

This is blackmail and protection pure and
simple. It is Rip off report lite.

in '93' they came to me with selling protection
quite litterally stating "If I join and pay the yearly dues there will be no negative reports that could hurt your business". and I refused
observing they were engaging in a protection racket and it was blackmail and coercion. I would have no part of it.


Their vendetta has been to find the precious few complaints (every business has them by the scores, wujido, far fewer than most) and in most
cases (a total of maybe 3 or 4 in 13 years) the
existing complaints were found to be fabrications of persons defaulting on payments or bouncing checks. Having only the recourse of using a venue that would allow them to do the only thing they could do, lie and make a false report in an effort to hurt us. But we did not bounce a check and we did not lie, and we did not engage in any less than satisfactory activities but instead have uncompormising excellent quality of honesty, fair dealing, and high standard of teaching.

There was no valid case to bring forward. Recently they changed the rating to unsatisfactory and now changed it back with a backhanded insulting phrase "previously had unsatisfactory rating" because they are aware they have engaged in Business Disparagement and are liable and have been caught rendering false report but have an interest in slandering the business entity that will now cow tow to their
protection racket.

So the BBB comment only proves how liars and individuals with blackmail (rip-off-report) in
mind and BBB protection racket can do damage to
anyone who does not go along with them.

Our school continues to grow in respect and reputation as more and more people are realizing that this and other slander venues have no
credibility.

*****

Whoever on the basis of this site thinks they are a tough guy and thinks they can bring it. Well,
need I say more?

*****

For the person who objects to my many words.

I would rather not comment but we have made it
a policy to answer all rediculous accusations and distortions until our federal litigation is in
place against Rip'.


So again, I realize getting into the mud with
the lowlifes and the judgemental individuals who know nothing about what is really going on, on the ground; is a messy business and no one can look good in this kind of situation of back and forth impossible assertions and so forth.

All everyone is doing is providing more help for some felons, probated felons, scam artists, and blackmailers to extort rather large sums from corporations and business to keep their names
off this site. I won't pay them and I won't this site either.

****

Those non-resident, non-students who make up the largest portion of negative posts I want to just say. There are plenty of good schools around just as there are plenty of not so good schools around.

As for tough guys. The whole process of establishing a strong successful school from a small core of about 5-8 students in Texas includes
several years of every puke-punk tough guy UFC wannabe, golden gloves champion, foreign Champions, even all-China Champions comming buy the school and taking a shot at you.

Everyone went down to a man, often in spectacular and terrifying fashion. Things have been pretty quiet the last couple years except for
a full contact champion from china being defeated in a polite contest with a blue belt. It was pretty friendly and respectful.

I teach in a very friendly and gentle manner and that has often brough derision from a certain corner of the martial arts market. But several martial artists careers have ended bloody on the floors of this studio and not because we wanted it.

Clint Smith can come and start a fight if he
wants. There are after all a number of student of
mine aware of his disrespect and can't wait to see him walk through these doors.

we have DVD's for sale that show what I am talking about in terms of power, effectiveness and also one finger knockouts of really tough big powerful and skillful fighters. This is not bragging, it is fact.

I will sign off for all you detractors. Keep it coming. The more the fool you people make yourselves the more people come in to the school

Do you realize that we have to sign up 1/2 the number of students to maintain our size. Top 5% rated in USA. Why? Because we lose 50% fewer students than the other successful schools. We have higher success, lower injuries (almost 0)and teach character development, discipline, respect, and a martial art that HAS PROVEN TO BE ABLE TO DEFEATE, MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, KARATE, TAEKWONDO, AND COMMERCIAL VARIANTS and we do it by teaching
traditional Chinese kung fu. Isn't that amazing.

Jamie,

I saw your students on your website. What a Joke. I would dust your lame black belts on my worst day.

All you can do is try to speak your cultic mentality. If anyone is gay, it is you. You seem to think the word c**t is offensive. Point proven.

You are a joke and no Master!

I stumbled upon this under new posts. I have had several years of martial arts training, specifically for confined spaces against seveal attaackers such as all of our modes of transportation. I will comment objectively.

Wujido Institute Has an Unsatisfactory Record With The Better Business Bureau that can be viewed at www.bbb.org/

The following text below has been taken from the owners
Rebuttal REBUTTAL Owner of company
Submitted: 1/11/2005 6:13:04 PM Modified: 1/11/2005

WUJIDO IS ONE OF THE SAFEST PLACES TO TRAIN.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE STRICT DISCIPLINE
AND RULES OF ETIQUETTE. TO PUT A RESTRAINT ON
EGOS AND DELUSIONAL AND UNCONTROLLED BEHAVIOR
AS WELL AS UNSAFE PRACTICES WHILE BEING TRAINED
IN AN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE AND POWERFUL
MARTIAL ART.

Mr. James (owner of Wujido ) clearly does not practice what he teaches and/or preaches as his business retains an UNSATISFACTORY RECORD with the BBB for FAILING to answer consumer complaints. It is very easy to remove this from your record.

(This is a small preview) of what type of sub-standard instruction/education that will be dispensed at this facility given below by the owner:

WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT USES BELTS AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT USES SASHES, AND WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT DOES NOT USE EITHER AT THIS POINT.

What has the owner of this school told us in the above statement. He has said the his school does not know and/or has not selected what program to go with and is experimenting to see which will work best. During this time period, the quality of instruction will not be the best.

Owner Wrote:

RIPOFF REPORT IS NOT AN ACCREDITED SITE AND HAS NO REPORTING OR AUDITING AUTHORITY AND ONLY EXISTS ONLY TO VENT, DISTORT, AND SMEAR, AND MAKE MONEY OFF THE MISERY THEY CAUSE AND THE CONTROVERSY THEY COIN.

Nonsense, you now leave me to question the level of you education with such a statement above. Ripoff Report is one of thousands of freedom of speech (OPEN FORUMS).

Ripoff Report has helped start recalls on defective tires, vehicle recalls for fires that have killed people, there are several wrongful death lawsuits right now, the photos are amazing.

If an author wishes to misuse there freedom of speech rights in an malicious act against WiJido or whichever company, how is that the fault of the operator of the forum???? It isn't

Ripoff Report is like a giant freeway bilboard sign that anyone can spray paint what ever they wish upon it, GOOD OR BAD.

Federal law, specifically the Communications Decency Act, 47 U.S.C.A 230,states that websites are immune from any liability for statements Authored by others. Furthermore, the Supreme Court agreed to hear Troy & Craft v. Cochran, a case dealing with the use of freedom of speech in a public forums.

This also means from angry owners as well, I trust that you will apologise if you have made any improper threats and I trust that you will be looking into repairing youe poor BBB record Mr. Dojo.

Thank You For You Cooperation

James,

I have no interest in Wujido, or any other martial arts centers in the Dallas area (as I live in AZ), and have been following the ramblings on this thread with amused interest. But I finally feel the need to post some comments, especially since you are attacking the operator of this website.

Here are my observations:

1) You are a long-winded person. Some of the ramblings by you are almost incomprehensible.

2) For someone who is such a skilled "Master", you show very little self constraint. This leads to credence on the part of the complainers who say you are an unstable person.

3) Name calling is childish and belongs in elementary school. By refering to Clint Smith as "c**t" and "c****y", you are proving your childish nature.

4) Why all the secrecy? Afraid that prospective students will learn that most of the classes are taught by other students, instead of qualified instructors? (My observation from these posts. I am unable to verify if this is true or not)

You know what they say, businesses that scream the loudest have the most to hide. As for the slander lawsuit against RipOff Report, you need to get a new lawyer (if you even have one). Written statements are considered libel, slander is done by spoken word. And besides, your case will not win. There have already been several cases that concluded statements made by individuals on a web board were not actionable. Much bigger groups have tried to bring down ROR (the correct abbreviation, not ROP) before, and have not succeded.

I am thankful for ROR. They were instrumental in my getting a full refund from a company that ripped me off by using false advertising. I will support them to the end.

Here's a simple solution for you. Invite prospective members to attend/observe one class free of charge. That way they can make an informed decision on whether or not Wujido is for them.

We have decided to respond to all libelous posts until we have the opportunity to litigate against the owner of "rop" who has liability for publishing unsubstantiated assertions and engageing in slander and business disparagement.

Therefore we will respond even to the most ridiculous posts until this matter becomes
resolved.

People should understand that this c****y
emailed me personally after my complete and
totally reasonable and devistating (to his cause) response with the most psychotic obscene foul and at the same time completely unintelligent email.

I wrote him back crushing his game so badly all he could do was dribble incoherent puke speech calling me extremely obscene names that were ultimately self-descriptive without realizing he was projecting his own faults.

He revealed that he was insecure, an unresolved
gay person with tremendous personal psychological problems he needs to resolve with therapy. He demonstrated and does demonstrate in all probability that he has a real alcohol and drug problem and an unstable personality. That is my impression and I hope it is not the case because I would not wish this kind of trouble on anyone.

I would suggest however that he stop using drugs and booze and go to school and try to improve his own life. He should develope a better vocaulary.

I told him that if he kept this kind of thing up I would not be surprised if he committed scuicide. From his emails to me I worry that he may be suicidal. It is difficult to know what kind of trouble a person might be in based on libelous email posts and multiple emails to my own email account.

You see, we have nothing to do with one another and he probably equates this with fame since nobody knows him and he is incapable of making a name for himself except as a pathetic internet psycho hate speech website hit (((REDACTED)))
Kind of like ED.


Now to the issues he has brought up

first his initial accusation was that I was weak and a fraud just like Chung Moo Doe

Now the REAL TRUTH IS THAT c**t Smith, ALONG WITH HIS SCHOOL WUKUNG AND ALSO JIMOODOE ARE IN FACT THE FAILING REMNANTS OF THE CHUNGMOODOE SCHOOL.

The issue of the threat. If anyone paid attention it was c****y smith who threatened
me and claimed superiority and I responded by offering an invitation for him to prove his claim anytime and he knows full well he can come to the school and he also knows full well he would be totally crushed by any number of my students above yellow or orange belt. Anyone more advanced would be so total of a destruction as to appear as if we are taking advantage of him or humiliating him on purpose.


But the truth is we are not interested in c****y. We don't care about c****y. He doesn't mean anything to us and is not worth a threat.

His psychotic break is because he has become consumed with the fear of the thought of fighting
one of us here at the school. that is his delusional mind speaking. No one here is threatening him. Just every time he thinks of the idea of fighting one of us he becomes afraid.

One should notice how his claims and arguments continue to shift and unwind.

Now we are at the core of what amounts to a difference of opinion on how things happen in our memories.

For instance, I did go into the ChungMooDoe Demonstration, I carried in a rather large box of fliers numbering over a 100 or so and placed them on the condiment table that was just west of the front entrance (inside the school) next to the cake and cookies and coffee. I wandered through the school into each training room FILLED WITH PEOPLE and handing my flier to select people. And yes I did put fliers on the parked cars.

Now I want to say something about that. I actually don't think it was right for me to be in another school passing out fliers.

I was wrong and it was rude.

I was responding to viscious slander by many of the people at the school who choose to use slander and business disperagement as a competitive stratagy against a very small school at the time that was no threat to them.

This kind of slander that c****y is doing (and they were doing) is in fact a common ugly tactic of certain insecure schools.

One of the black belt instructors some time before the demonstration actually tried to intimidate me and start a fight with me in the parking lot when at the time he was not aware that I had some skill in martial arts. When I turned and performed a couple gestures he ran away like a cowardly dog. It is difficult to describe the contempt I felt for that kind of cowardace that wanted to bully a civilian and when he found a martial art fighter he ran like a scared dog.


It was from these events I formed my opinion of ChungMooDoe and felt justified in visiting their demonstration.

However, that was years ago and I have changed my opinion and feel I was wrong to go into their school and demonstration.

I did visit their school ALONE. So c****y may be aware of some of what happened but not all. So he certainly can disagree with my memory but he is wrong to call me a liar. I fully accept he has his own memory.

Now about closing ChungMooDoe. I want to repeat a fact. WuKung/JiMooDoe/c****y Smitty are all representative and remnants of ChungMooDoe. With that knowledge one can see that c****y is either a very dishonest person or has psychological problems or is desperate to save face in his own life. I don't know which and I don't care.

Did Wujido have anything to do with the demise of ChungMooDoe?

Well let us examine what is true. (CMD) ChungMooDoe located in Dallas area AFTER being kicked out of Chicago for rackateering if the States Attorney is to be believed. There were other stories and articles were published in professional Martial Arts Publications confirming these facts.

CMD invested a tremendous amount of its credibility in slandering our school which I personally thought was a real mistake.

An opportunity arrived for a competition in the West End (Dallas) and there were initially 6 schools, I had a senior student enter our school in a stealthy manner because I knew since CMD was in control of the competition Wujido would never be allowed to compete.

When the other schools (all of whom invested their credibility in viscious slanderous attacks against our school and I do not know why) when those school found out Wujido was in the competition and they would go head to head with our school. EVERY SCHOOL DROPPED OUT but for the one school that could not pull out, ChungMooDoe who sponsored the event.

Wujido TOTALLY ANIALATED AND HUMILIATED CHUNGMOODOE in every way and their claim that our school was weak, phoney, worthless, and pansy was changed to...better not go to that school because the teacher is a psycho and it is way too dangerous. Why? Because they witnessed superior martial artists with real martial art skill and the rare skill of one finger knockouts. It turned out that THEY were the weak and pansy frauds, and were proved liars by fact and demonstration. We entered a single 10 year old child in the competition and our 10 year old won, beating black belts, adults, instructors; every single one of the dozens of ChungMooDoe entries.
We then demonstrated on a stage for all to see.
THAT WAS THE END OF CHUNG MOO DOE.

Truth was, after our demonstration all the dozen or so black belts that were pushing people around and trying to bully and intimidate our students, especially the women. standing in front of the stage with arms folded during the demonstration (well, actually only the first half or two thirds) all ran completely off the property (very strange behavior) and were nowhere to be found

When I and my students came off the stage. we looked at each other rather amused at their overt cowardace and agreed "where'd they go? Lets go see if we can find them!" All of our students then fanned out and looked all over the west end even checking restrooms and so forth and every black belt instructor to a person had left, disasppeared, ran away, leaving only their students wondering where all of the instructors went. Very strange, don't you think?

They all left and ran away. This was entirely consistent with my first experience with ChungMooDoe (CMD).

I don't know why some people want to rehearse this event which casts a shadow of disgrace on CMD and martial arts in general. I have absolutely no respect or regard for that kind of behavior. These are c****y Smitty's Pals. These are c****y Smitty's friends and martial arts buddies.

ChungMooDoe lost its Park Lane School about one month after that. Now there is nothing unusual about a school going broke or leaving one location for another.

However, ChungMooDoe traces its complete and total disappearance from the martial arts scene from the time of the competition with Wujido. Before compeating against Wujido there was ChungMooDoe, After competing with Wujido, NO_ChungMooDoe. Coincidence?

ChungMooDoe dissappeared and several instructors, no doubt some that were there, left and changed their name to (Wu) Kung and the other group changed their name to (Ji) MooDoe and opperated from Preston/Beltline location which was I think the original home school.

c****y went off with the (Wu)Kung group which are of course ChungMooDoe instructors. c****y is posting from their (Wu)Kung Coloney, Trinity Mills area. I don't know, maybe their school is closed down and c****y is angry. Maybe c****y blames me. Very typical.

One should ask questions like...

Now if I move my school why whould I change my name? Why would I change my name right after ChungMooDoe was humiliated by Wujido? Why would the two groups choose (Wu) and (Ji) as their new names? Coincidence I am sure and has nothing to do with Wuji_do. Looks a little Freudian to me.

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I apologize for such a long narrative. Most of this is irrelivant if you are wanting to find out about WMA. One should go to our website and if you have a question email us and we will give you an honest and open answer to any honest and reasonable question. we have many articles for you to read.

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All this is ROP and CMD and c****y is just soap opera

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Now IT IS ALSO TRUE THAT some of the administrative staff of ChungMooDoe have been brought up on federalcharges and those who were on the top level of the school were either indited or rolled over.

Now why is it that no one complained to the rip off report about ChungMooDoe? Maybe because they were actually true bad actors like ED so he couldn't recognize them.

ChungMooDoe is the source of c****y Smitty. This is who c****y Smitty is and where HE comes from. He comes from ChungMooDoe and they are HIS people.

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I have no clue why c****y Smitty craweled out
from under his rock to post and I don't care

I will tell him like I told him in the email
he needs to get on with his life and go away
work on his own life and forget this.

One final thought for c****y Smitty.

ROP is using many tricks to avoid litigation but the game is starting to unravel for them. You c****y are engaged in Business Disparagement and you can be held financially responsible and your malice is clear. I have saved your emails and I have got the paperwork and video record to prove everything I have said is the truth.

OH yes I forgot. You claimed I extorted you. Nice try.

I have our paperwork that proves you owe me money. Now it may be a matter of point of view that a debt you owe is somehow extortion. I can understand this but the ROP is no place to express your opinion.

You need to wake up. I did NOT make you pay and I did not report you to a credit agency. So the truth is the exact opposite of what you are trying to make people believe.

We cut you a break and did not make you pay even though we had every legal right to make you pay, sue you for it, report you to a credit agency.

Again I say, after all we did for you this is how you repay me?

It proves the saying "No good deed ever goes unpunished"

Go away, if you don't you may be hearing from an attorney and then things will only get worse.

I wish you the best and I hope whatever has gone wrong in your life turns around. Just take comfort in realizing that everything is impermanent and whatever bad times you are experiencing will change and you will get some positive breaks.

Just don't make trouble for yourself and try to keep your nose clean and stay sober for God's sake.

Thread over

Spin Dr,

You had nothing to do with Chung Moo Doe closing. The Chung Moo Doe Instructors were giving a demonstration the day you put flyers on cars. Then you ran and hid. Like a scared little kid.

Everything you say is a spin or a lie. You can threaten me but I am not scared of you. You tried to extort money from me by acting tough. People in Dallas need to know what you are. A LIAR.

Dont ever threaten me again. You are not tough enough.

This is Texas, not china.

The last time someone picked a fight in the Wujido Institute and was hit in the face he had to HAVE HIS NOSE SEWN BACK ON. Emphasis is to make sure you are getting the message.

c**t is a weak and cowardly drunk the last time I checked. I hope things are better for him but it looks like he is living in the past.

One of my students was suspended for conduct unbecoming for a year and took the time to study with ray Machado and the JukoKai coach at SMU.
Both have the reputation for being tough schools, far tougher than your Wu Kung school at Trinity Mills which only exists because Wujido CRUSHED Chung Moo Doe's reputation as a legitimate school and the two schools that branched out of it were Wu Kung and Ji moo do.

Tim (the suspended student )came back to the day his suspension was over and resumed training here. I have a lot of respect for Prof. Machado,

I have no respect at all for c**t, the one time I saw him compete he was a total coward and I couldn't believe how fast he laid down for the opponent who massacered him.

I asked Tim S. how our studio compared (since I respect Machado and expect a high quality of training at his school) Tim said that our training here was more intense and that they were good at ground fighting (so are we) their overall style was not nearly as effective or comprehensive. He also noticed that there was a lot of insecurity, disrespect, no character development, bullying and so forth. He preferred to train at Wujido.

Tim (a student of mine) has utterly crushed UFC type challangers at the school using only our technique and less than 25% of his effort and skill. In fact they have been defeated so easily as to be considered, shall I say, "pathetic"?

Tim also is the kind of person that would probably be able to get into the finals in a UFC or Pride fighting competition. But to win he would have to up his game on the conditioning front maybe 15% or so. There is a lot of conditioning requirments for the competition. UFC is a tough and respectable competition.

I Also learned recently that one of my past purple belts went pro and won the IKF heavywight full contact championship. Don't know much about that organization or what their turn over is but I was glad to see him do well.

As for c**t

c**t is a part of the Wu Kung group.

c**t has an open invitation to come to the school and prove how tough he is anytime he wants.

We have defeated numerous UFC wannabe types who have come in here disrespecting our school.

c**t is a cowardly UFC wannabe type who has poor impulse control and has a drug and booze problem the last time I heard. I hope he is doing better and has cleaned up his act. If he has then I am happy for him.

But Clity is a baby puppy boy coward whose courage extends only to writing an attack site. This Clity has issues.

c**t, you should remember when I was slandered by your previous school Chung Moo Do (which I almost single handedly closed down) I didn't write an email post to an offshore hit site, remember, I walked into their school during a full demonstration ( ALONE ) while they had over a dozen of their top black belts and distributed my fliers on site. None of them said anything to me and I remember very clearly

THAT IS WHEN YOU CAME TO ME AND ASKED ME TO PROTECT YOU FROM THEM.

Is this how you repay me?


If you think you are a tough guy, come on down to Wujido and find out. Just make sure your medical is paid up. I have so many students here that can crush you into powder, you have no idea.

Maybe you want us to visit your new school so you can suffer the same fate as Chung Moo Do. And if this pisses you off. Don't post on the ROP, come to the school and finish this off right.

Metzger ( a UFC champ) put up his school near ours and the only thing that happened is his students started coming to our school and in a year he was bust, game over.

this kind of thing does not happen if our school is as you say it is.

You do not want to make the same mistake others have made.

I hope for the best for all legitimate schools and anyone who approaches MA in an honorable and disciplined way and helps others with their knowledge I wish them all the success they deserve.

Wujido has become THE STANDARD OTHERS ARE SEEKING TO EMULATE OR TEAR DOWN and that is why loser wannabes like yourself try to take shots at us.

You are attempting to raise yourself by putting us down. But it will not work and if you persist it is not good business. Make your own reputation and keep training and making yourself a better person and a better martial artist. The rest in unecessary.

You should respect your betters and in fact repect anyone as I do who makes a success out of
martial arts.


Anyway c**t I believe you have totally lost your mind and probably got dumped by your girlfriend or something or you going out of business so you are striking out, projecting as if your failures have something to do with me. they don't.

c**t is crying for help but this is not the way to get help from me. Try apologizing, learning some humility. You will learn.

I have nothing to do with you and found you a contemptable human being then and my opinion has not changed. I had forgotten you existed.

I suggest you come to the school and resolve your issue with me like a man or crawl back under the rock you came out of.


This thread is finished

Jamie,

Your school is a safe place to train. You are not even allowed to hit in the face. That is a perfect reason your style is a waste of time. If you cant practice hitting someone in the face, how are you going to learn to fight? Your students move around in these stances leaving their hands down, playing like a bird, snake, or whatever. That wastes alot of energy and makes it easy for any boxer to attack their heads. Just an average boxer would wipe the floor with your students (in my opinion). Do you make them chirp or growl while they practice this way?

What fighting titles do you hold? Could you beat JD Shelley, Carlos Machado, Ralph Severe. You talk as if you could. You say you have all these secrets, lets see you use them. Enter the UFC and prove to everyone using your "secrets" to back up the things you say. Lets see you use your "insane" groundfighting skills to prove yourself.

I would be willing to bet that a student of jiu jitsu with 6 months would beat any one of your students of 2 to 5 years.

You pass off chi kung like it gives you superpowers. It dosent, and people have the right to know the truth. Its excercise, and thats it.

You should write kung fu fiction. That's what you are really good at. You can use all those words that no one understands. And all they are is words.

As far as my life goes, it is ok. Im learning Martial Arts that do not require me to walk like a goose and quack like a duck. I would never come back to your school because I have found styles so much better.

Now as I wrap up, I grant you permission to respond again. But please turn off the caps lock. It makes you seem angry and unprofessional.

NONE OF THIS IS ACTUALLY TRUE

WUJIDO IS ONE OF THE SAFEST PLACES TO TRAIN.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THE STRICT DISCIPLINE
AND RULES OF ETIQUETTE. TO PUT A RESTRAINT ON
EGOS AND DELUSIONAL AND UNCONTROLLED BEHAVIOR
AS WELL AS UNSAFE PRACTICES WHILE BEING TRAINED
IN AN INCREDIBLY EFFECTIVE AND POWERFUL
MARTIAL ART.

WE ARE NOT A MIXED MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL AND DO NOT
TRY TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MANY STYLES.

WE ATTEMPT TO KNOW A LOT ABOUT A LIMITED AREA OF STUDY: WU XING BA FA LOHAN SHAOLIN QUAN FA, WUJIQUAN, TAIJIQUAN. WE HAVE SUCH SUCCESS BECAUSE WE GO TOWARDS HIGHER SPECIALIZATION OF IMPORTANT FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS CRUCIAL FOR SUCCESS IN MARTIAL ARTS.

THE SCHOOL IS A COMPREHENSIVE MARTIAL ARTS SCHOOL AND TEACH ALL CLASSES OF HAND TO HAND AND MANY WEAPONS AND EMPTY HAND AGAINST WEAPONS AND ALSO MULTIPLE OPPONENT SKILLS. YES THIS INCLUDES SOME RATHER EFFECTIVE GROUND FIGHTING. BASED ON THE USE OF LEOPARD, SNAKE, MONKEY STYLES USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH CHIN NA (GRAPPLING) AND
SUAI JIAO (THROWING). ALL IN THE CONTEXT OF THE
SHAOLIN OR WUJIQUAN STYLE.

WE ALSO TEACH YANG FAMILY TAIJIQUAN

WE HAVE A RULE:

EARN THE RIGHT TO LEARN.

SO YOU MAY WANT TO LEARN THE MOST ADVANCED THINGS RIGHT AWAY BUT IT WILL BE FUNDAMENTALS, FUNDAMENTALS, AND MORE FUNDAMENTALS UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO LEARN MORE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A STRONG ROOT AND GOOD FOUNDATION. THIS GUARANTEES SUCCESS.

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We have a program that uses belts and we have
a program that uses sashes and we have a program
that does not use either at this point.

Nothing traditional or non-traditional about belts or sashes. It is an accepted convention for measuring progress and nothing more.

Even the Yang family is now using ranks.

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Now anyone following all of these posts about the school has noticed that
there are a lot of nut-jobs posting and they are mainly posting maliscious false and misleading statements. Mostly anonymously.

On the other hand real people who have trained have tried their best to defend the school and be a reasonable as they can to both be respectful to the school and not put into questions the motives and veracity of negative posters.

How can I have "insane" groundfighting skills and another person says I have none. How can I be the next best thing to sliced bread to one and the antichrist to another. A baffoon and a genius, a misleader and a Buddha, a greedy person and a generous person. Teaching the true traditional arts without watering down and another that I am not teaching traditional arts at all. One that I know nothing and the Beijing Wushu University (one of the two most prestigeous martial arts institutes of China) invites me to confer with their staff and seeks to affiliate with the school!

It is because our Institute is very successful and has a powerful impact on people's lives and what we do is incredibly effective and we do it in such a successful way that there is great jealousy and polarization of opinion about us. Many are lying and we have posted PROOF they were lying. It made no difference to the cyber smear crowd.

Complainers have a habit of lying to support their negative view. I have found no one who supports the school who has been either dogmatic in their presentation or dishonest in anyway but they to a person have tried to be as reasonable as they can be, trying to see both sides.

The usfulness of this website is highly questionable and it resolves nothing and can
only smear and disparage the good work we do. For those who are reading this and "Clint". That is patently ILLEGAL and TORTUOUS. That means that
it is UNETHICAL to lie and disparage a person and try and destroy a reputation through lies and distortions. You are wrong.

Clint, even if you remember things in a certain way that does not mean that is how it happened. A person often sees things or remembers things in a way that is a reflection of their own state of mind. It is not necessary for you to realize that even if you believe what you say you can still be believing a lie. It happens all the time.

RipOffRep.. is not an accredited site and has no reporting or auditing authority and exists only to vent, distort, and smear. And MAKE MONEY OFF OF THE MISERY THEY CAUSE. And controversy is their coin.

It is a small wonder that the site is registered OFF-SHORE.

Thank you and I hope Clint that things are looking up for you, If you are in trouble or need to talk I don't know if there is anything I can do but you can call us.

Take care and I hope your life improves, and forget about the money you owe me. I already forgot about it.

Thank you