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Complaint Review: www.cbnow.org - Oakville Ontario

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  • www.cbnow.org Box 61027 - Maple Grove P.O. Oakville, Ontario United States of America

cbnow.org Crime Busters Posts False Reports with NO Research Oakville, Ontario

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: CrimeBustersNow

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Allegations of Fraud on Our Site Proved True

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Ah, the Internet...the information wonderland where anyone can say anything about anyone and get away with it.  A perfect example is an Ontario website called Crime Busters or cbnow.org, which turns out to be a one-man operation with one BIG AGENDA--and that's to defame every network marketing company ever developed.

When this guy, Dave Thornton, posted my name and photo along with deragatory information about a company I HADN'T EVEN STARTED YET, I knew something was amiss. How could he possibly know anything about a brand new company that hadn't even launched or sold a single product? A concerned friend called the guy and asked him to remove my photo and name. He was told that my new partner had been involved in a prior "MLM scam," and therefore, this must be a scam, too. In other words, I was guilty by association.

A few hours later, Dave called me to threaten me with further negative publicity should I choose to move forward with the endeavor. This concerned me greatly as I am an author with a fan base and am somewhat known in my field. I asked Dave how he could possibly know whether or not this new endeavor was a scam when he knew nothing about it. His response was that it didn't matter...according to him ALL network marketing companies are illegal Ponzi schemes and everyone who runs one is a crook and a racketeer. 

I asked if he meant to say that Mary Kay, a company with a 40+ year tradition was also illegal. He emphatically stated yes. I was shocked, but then it got better...he went on a rant that I couldn't stop if I tried... ending with odd statements about banks also being Ponzi schemes and illegal as is the mortgage industry.  (What?)

I told him that I was using a top attorney to make sure my new business was legal. His response. "They're all crooks, too." 

I told him that I would send him my business and financial plan before launching so that he could see for himself that it meets all the legal requirements. He refused, stating that he didn't have time to look at everyone's information. (What?)  "You can just sue me if you don't like it," was his response.

Now I was curious. Who was this guy? I thought he was an attorney, given that he's freely handing out all kinds of legal advice over the Internet. When I asked, I got nothing short of a tirade, but from that discovered that he is 72-years old, lives alone, has a 10th grade education (and is proud of it), felt that he was burned by a multi-level company sometime in the past, and has been out for revenge ever since.

Hopefully, if you happen upon his site, you will also find your way here. Please use your own common sense when viewing sites like this one. Just because someone is publishing what appears to be valid legal information, it doesn't mean that person is qualified to do so--at least not on the Internet.

As it turns out, Dave Thornton, has requests for donations all over his website. He is unethically making his living by hawking negative information (often about legitimate businesses) with no research behind it.  He is also operating the site as a "foundation," which is of questionable validity as it was set up by someone claiming that these foundations are free from taxation.

Is the "crime buster" actually a "criminal" himself?  Well, you know what they say about who calls the kettle black!

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AUTHOR: David - (Canada)

POSTED: Sunday, September 02, 2012

Lest I forget, also in the rant from the anonymous poster is this interesting quote from our conversation.

.... ending with odd statements about banks also being Ponzi schemes and illegal as is the mortgage industry.  (What?)

Well I guess recent history has proven our years warning about banks in Ponzi schemes, fraud in the mortgage industry and Mutual Funds etc, has certainly been finally born out in the mainstream media with the collapse of major banks and their confirmed involvement in Ponzi schemes. All three major banks in Canada have been accused by government investigators of their involvement in fraud.i.e. The Toronto Dominion Bank, Canadas second largest, ordered to pay investors US $67-million for their involvement with Scott Rothstein a despicable lawyer also involved in illicit drugs and sentenced to 50 years in his U.S. $1.2 billion dollar Ponzi scheme:

And what about our constant allegations of police involvement.

Rothsteins deposition.

Q: All right. So you said the only drugs you used were marijuana with your wife. Is she the only you didnt that wasnt incorporated in the rock-star lifestyle, using drugs with any of your investors or co-conspirators?

Rothstein: No, actually, never. Actually, I had a lot of opportunities to because there was a lot of marijuana smoking going on in my office, but it wasnt something I prefer to drink vodka.

Q: Actually in the office it was going on?

Rothstein: In the office, in the garage, outside the office, I had some partners that couldnt come to work without smoking pot.

Q: Okay.

Rothstein: I also found out they were actually dealing drugs in the office. I actually tried to put a stop to that.

Q: That was one crime you wouldnt tolerate? 

Rothstein: No, no, its not that. I didnt want to draw attention. You dont want to have marijuana dealing from the middle of your law office because I was running a giant Ponzi scheme out of there.

Q: Did you ever have any of the escorts visit the office?

Rothstein: Yeah. Sure. 

Q: You had had prostitutes in the office, but you wouldnt have pot?Rothstein: Youre missing the point. The police also were sleeping with my escorts.Pot, not a great idea in the office, I dont know why, specifically, it bothered me; but it troubled me, probably because they were actually dealing the pot out of the office while I was in the middle of running a several-hundred-million-dollar Ponzi scheme.

And Robert Allen Stanford The court-designated liquidators of Stanfords crumbling assets claim the Toronto-Dominion Bank was the principal foreign banking partner for Stanford as he flowed more than US$9-billion through its accounts in Canada while looting his way to notoriety as a Ponzi schemer second only to Bernie Madoff.TD, Canadas second-largest lender, is accused of maintaining a relationship with Stanford International Bank (SIB) even as other financial institutions shunned the Antigua-based bank over concerns over money laundering and shady dealing.The vast bulk of the money from the fraud would have flowed through the TD Bank, said Marcus Wide, managing director of Grant Thornton in the British Virgin Islands, one of the joint liquidators of SIBs assets. source: National Post.

Canadian, Alan Kippax, and a dozen now arrested in his Pyramid fraud also laundered his millions in cash through The Toronto Dominion Bank.Do we need to say more in our defense?

Incidentally the posters lawyer threatened to sue. Our Grade 10, thats right Grade 10 Legal Department invited him to do just that and directed him to the precedent setting decision I received in the $10,000,000 TTI&BIM S.L.A.P.P. (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) that I defended unrepresented against a 24 lawyer prestigious law firm; and yes Im proud I did that with a grade 10 education. The lawyer for this anonymously posting character has backed off; I have heard no more about a liable suit and this crooks pictures and those of his fraudulent associates remain in our Gallery of Fraud Artists on our website.

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CrimeBustersNow

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Allegations of Fraud on Our Site Proved True

AUTHOR: David - (Canada)

POSTED: Sunday, September 02, 2012

I am the President of CrimeBustersNow. The allegations published on our site are true and provable. i.e. In Dec 2010 the perpetrator of Pigeon King International was arrested in Kitchener Ontario in the largest fraud in the history of Waterloo Region.

January 12-13, 2011, twelve of about 100,000 distributors of Alan Kippax so called Net Work Marketing corporations TTI&BIM, in reality, money-laundering fraud, were arrested by Manitoba RCMP, one a teacher; one a banker just as we reported and warned students about: The involvement of RCMP, police on down, church ministers, government personnel, politicians, lawyers, the judiciary, accountants, etc, being suppressed by Canadian government, police and mainstream media.

January 2011 Xentle, a corrupt charity fraud who raise money for police and other badge organizations were given the highest fine ever in Canada, at that time, for a telemarketing corporation.  I personally exposed these rats on CTV national television with my face obscured in 1985. The rats changed their name as most of MLM rats do, and simply carried on unobstructed by the very police their corrupt organization raises money for.

The truth can take a long time. And CrimeBustersNow has never been proven wrong!!! Even won an 18 page precedent setting decision in the Ontario Superior Court in a failed S.L.A.P.P. (Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation) unrepresented against a 24 lawyer prestigious law firm; the law suit launched by the money-laundering crook Alan Kippax.

Several others listed on our site have been closed down or collapsed on their own. What WE publish is true. It is not even hyped or exaggerated. No need. Truth is stranger than fiction.

Check our site and watch the video of the crook Kippax bragging of the RCMP, church ministers, government personnel etc., recruited into his fraud two years before the arrests. And check out much more illegal harassment and false charges by police and Canadian government against this whistleblower.

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dave - president

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