Complaint Review: Www.printplace.com - Arlington Texas
- Www.printplace.com 1130 Ave H East Arlington, Texas U.S.A.
- Phone: 817-701-3555
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- Category: Printing & Copy Services
Www.printplace.com dishonest on-line print shop unauthorized charges business cards press online punk rock indie Ripoff Arlington Texas
*UPDATE Employee: Response
*UPDATE Employee: Response
*Author of original report: Print Place now claims no price change price this is my response
*UPDATE Employee: Livid Records
*UPDATE Employee: Livid Records
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I received in the mail a promo flyer for this business called www.printplace.com. I needed business cards made for a convention/tour that I was going to attend on June 23rd seeing as it was June 4th I decided to give them a shot as their business looked a lot more legit than most on-line print houses.
So on June 4th I shot over an order for 2 different jobs for a total of 2,000 business cards [jobs #60925 ]. My total was $109.66 and I was excited about getting my new business cards.
On or around June 16th I was begining to wonder where my order was, so I went back to their site and logged into my printplace.com account. My job had been pulled from the "At-Prepress" status due to bleed errors. Now what gets me about this is that they never even bothered to send a notification alerting me to such a status change.
At this point (June 17th) I sent an e-mail to their customer service [support@printplace.com] with the following message-
"To whom it may concern,
I'm extremely frustrated right now in understanding your business practices. I ordered Business Cards on 06/04/07 and today I decided to check out how the order is going because it is way past the 10 business day turnaround. Now I find out that you haven't even started
printing the cards! Why did your company not send me an e-mail? Or make a call? I have a convention to attend to next week this is completely unacceptable.
I'm starting to question this way too automated of a system that you have, it may be more cost-effective but I'd rather pay more and have a frickin' person get a hold of me if my order is suspect of anything. PrintPlace.com couldn't even be bothered with sending me an e-mail.
Unless this order can be in my hands no later than 06/20/07 I want a full refund."
Their response was as follows (on June 18th)
"Dear Charles,
Thank you for submitting a ticket to our system. This order was returned to your account on 6/7/07 because our prepress technician noticed that it is missing a bleed. At this point, it is still in Art Suspect and has not been sent to press. Orders sent to press today by 6PM CST will ship at the end of the last production day ordered. This order is on a 7 day turn, which means if you were to waive the suspect art status and send it to press today, it would ship on 6/27. Even if you were to upgrade your turnaround time to 2 business days, your order would not ship until 6/20. If you choose to cancel this order, you will incur a $15 cancellation fee.
Sincerely,
Customer Service"
I responded 1 hour later with:
"Please have a live person call me. This is ridiculous. If you return an order and not send it to press you should notify your client via e-mail rather than have the client have to check your site to stay updated. I'm not paying 1 cent more, I will dispute this with my credit card company if need be.
-Charles F******
561-901-****"
I received a call shortly after from a customer service representative by the name of Wendy. She was at the time what seemed helpful and promised that I'd have the job in my hands no later than Thursday June 21st. Hell they'd even Next Day it to me at no additional cost.
When Thursday came around I had not gotten a package from FedEX or UPS so I decided to give www.printplace.com a call. Surprisingly Wendy answered. I asked where my business cards where. She replied that they were "...being cut as we speak" and "that they'd be shipped next day that night so that I could recieve them before the convention Saturday."
Of course if that had happened and I'd gotten my business cards I wouldn't be here on ripoffreport.com filing a complaint.
To make the deal even sweeter www.printplace.com even charged my card for faster turnaround time although I never okayed such additional charges.
So here are my points:
1. When an order is placed through one of these shops on-line an e-mail MUST be sent with status updates (I've checked my "spam" folder- they're domain and e-mail addresses are not blocked by gmail)
2. A company SHOULD NEVER charge your card without further authorization.
3. A company SHOULD NOT make promises that they cannot fulfill especially with the urgency of business conventions. I'm not so mad at the $109 charge as I'm mad at the fact of the business I've just lost.
4. Any on-line service such as this SHOULD NOT expect clients to "sign-in" to their user accounts for constant updates. They should e-mail you with said updates on the e-mail address used to create your account.
Print Place is despicable. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THEM. I found another print house on-line that was local and had even better rates and faster turnarounds. I'm not here to promote thier competitors business so I'm not using their name.
Basically stay the hell away from www.printplace.com
Charles
Boca Raton, Florida
U.S.A.
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#5 UPDATE Employee
Response
AUTHOR: Customer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
Charles,
I truly am sorry that you feel this way. Please let me summarize what I know to be true:
- While you are correct when you look at the job details and say the price of your job changed when I changed your turnaround time from 7 days to 2, you were not actually charged any difference. Anytime any detail of a job is changed once in production, the differences between original and new are logged, along with any price difference. As I stated earlier however, we do not store credit card information, so any additional charges would need your express permission. Again, your bank will verify that there have been no subsequent charges.
- Per our terms (printplace.com/static/terms-and-conditions.aspx) , which you must agree to before you can checkout, our prepress technicians will put your job on hold if they see something that will cause the job to be less than satisfactory. It is your responsibility to correct any issues and then send it to press. I think you would agree that it is better to err on the side of caution when an expensive print job and the reputation it represents yours is on the line.
- Thank you for suggesting we look at our competitors practices. I can assure you we pay close attention. Our pricing is in the highest percentile of competitiveness; our on-time percentage is examined daily; every job that ships late must be accounted for. Your particular job has been escalated to our CEO. While I realize you are upset, I ask you to consider that while we ship many, many millions of dollars of printing, We, my management team and I, are paying particular attention to your $47 orders. I hope this gives you some idea of how seriously we take our responsibility.

#4 UPDATE Employee
Response
AUTHOR: Customer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
Dear Charles,
The total price was changed when I made the turn-around change, but your card was not charged for the difference. Your bank can verify this information for you.
I cannot reveal to you how I knew your cards were at cutting but was unable to tell that they would ship late, as our production system software is proprietary.
Sincerely,
Wendy

#3 Author of original report
Print Place now claims no price change price this is my response
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
Wendy,
You should notify your customers by e-mail of job status like you did when it went into production. At the end of the day I feel scammed & fooled by your company. I had no business cards to promote my business at the convention and all of your "promises" have not been fullfilled. I find it rather strange that every time I call you answer. Every time I e-mail printplace.com you answer. Is this run out of a house? Now you're telling me that you had problems with your system and it didn't ship in time. You somehow knew that my cards were being cut precisely when I called but not that your system was down. Give me a break. No serious company makes claims that they can't keep and just give BS excuses. I'm sick of it and I'm sick of your company.
I quote below from my "Details" tab where a pricing change was made-
"Updated Job Specification from 901325 to 973773. Changing item total from $46.50 to $63.50. Turnaround changed from 7 Business Days to 2 Business Days"
So yeah the total price was changed.
clubflyers came through with the flyers I needed. You know what their turnaround time was? 22 hours. In 1 business day I had my cards. Granted they were picked up in person had I had them overnighted I'd have them in exactly 2 Business days.
You promised 2nd day turnaround and overnight shipping. That was on the 18th here we are the 23rd and I'm still getting excuses.
My suggestion to you is check out the business practices of your competitors and maybe print place can learn a thing or two.

#2 UPDATE Employee
Livid Records
AUTHOR: Customer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
Dear Charles:
In response to the above report: we show a one-time charge to your card, for $109.66, which is the charge for your cards on a 7 day turn. Per our terms and conditions, printplace.com is not responsible for delays caused by problems with your artwork. This order was returned to your account because the art did not meet our requirements for the bleed. When we spoke on the phone, I spoke with your designer and let her know how to fix the art, and I upgraded your turn-around time as a measure of good faith and you were not charged extra for it.
Printplace.com does not store customer credit card information; if you were going to be charged any other than the original fee, I would have had to take your credit card information over the phone. I did not do this, as I'm sure you recall.
However, due to a bug in our system, this order is shipping late. We spoke on Thursday and I was assured that it would be overnighted that night; I was unaware of this bug at the time, or I would have told you your order would be late. Nonetheless, your order is printed on a faster turn-around time than we were obligated by your original order to produce it, and you were not charged any extra for this. I apologize for the delay in shipping.
Sincerely,

#1 UPDATE Employee
Livid Records
AUTHOR: Customer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 25, 2007
Dear Charles:
In response to the above report: we show a one-time charge to your card, for $109.66, which is the charge you authorized for your business cards on a 7 day turn. Per our terms and conditions, printplace.com is not responsible for delays caused by problems with your art work. When we spoke on the phone, I upgraded your turn-around time as a measure of good faith and you were not charged extra for it. Printplace.com does not store customer credit card information; if you were going to be charged any other than the original fee, I would have had to take your credit card information over the phone. I did not do this, as I'm sure you recall.
However, due to a bug in our system, this order is shipping late. We spoke on Thursday and I was assured that it would be overnighted that night; I was unaware of this bug at the time, or I would have told you your order would be late. Nonetheless, your order is printed on a faster turn-around time than we were obligated by your original order (and subsequent problems with your graphic design to produce it,) and you were not charged any extra for this. We apologize for the delay in shipping.
Sincerely,
Customer Service


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