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Complaint Review: CYDCOR - westlake Ohio

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  • CYDCOR 29160 Center Ridge Road Suite C westlake, Ohio United States of America

CYDCOR Cydcor Money Cult westlake, Ohio

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Yes, Cydcor is a scam

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Vanguard Innovations is promoted as a residential division of AT&T but really is just a reseller. My boyfriend got hooked and was a golden boy there. He was earning on average $600 a week and  was promoted to Leadership quickly. He had people working under him who he was training. Then I started to see the cracks of the golden opportunity.

Soon my man hit a mental wall. He was getting burned out. The night before he had an 19 year-old kid in tears because he couldn't make any money. He was so scared that someone would see him crying and that he was losing his positive attitude. I've read about a 36 year-old divorced father of two snap and suddenly seem lifeless and lost because he only made 30 bucks in a month. I decided to make my boy take a personal day.  The next day after my forced personal day he was informed that I should go home and really think about my opportunity. When he walked back in the door he said everyone who was his friend, all the guys I had hung out with him at team nights, all looked at him like he was disgusting and a failure. I knew it was all a front and that all his excitement and talent at this had been for not. He walked away and instantly all of them stopped associating with me.

WHAT ARE THE MAIN ISSUES WITH THIS COMPANY?
1. People who buy into the concept are gradually brainwashed into conforming. They expect you to get their at 10:30 am and stay until 9pm. Work Saturday and spend Sundays with your team. 
2. You take quick lunches. 
3. You work to become a leader and then asst. mgr of the office and then an owner. But Eric the owner was broke all the time. 
4. All commission! No salary, hourly wage, benefits, gas allowances, vacation time or anything.  
5. They expect total submission to all guidelines
6. They consistently preach the rules of success over and over in impact meetings. People take turns leading these meetings but saying the same thing.
7. You can never show anger, depression, confusion, stupidity or anything negative or you're "negging out"
8. They even have their own language.... Ask anyone who worked at any of the 15,000 offices and they will know what negging out is.

IS THIS A CULT?
In many ways it is a corporate cult. The sad thing is is that 95% of the people involved are really good people who just want to be their own boss. Pyramid scheme? Not really. The owner takes owner's stroke but leaders don't get cuts on merchandisers takes.

From what I read the initial idea of the original DS-MAX was a fair and good one. It is really up to the individual offices and how they operate. The only blame is led to DS-MAX and Cydcor etc. is that there is no real supervision or benefits package or even assistance. They don't claim responsibility because they have none. That is the idea behind multi-level marketing. You work to own you own office and business. that is the deal. The corporate heads make their money through contracts with clients such as domin's pizza, papa john's, Sprint, Quill, At&t, Verizon etc.

Owner's are the real piranhas. They pray on the person who just wants to find a career. (majority have no college education or real work experience). I feel sick that my boyfriend was rooked into it. 

IS THIS TYPE OF PRACTICE ILLEGAL?
Some is and some isn't. Nothing is malicious and everything is at an inidividual basis. The whole thing about not getting paid if you quit before 10 days is true. These are just kick backs that are solely up to the leader. The new people are just baggage and there to learn. They are not pitching or selling. They haven't done anything to earn the money. It is just voluntary training. If someone quits before the first 10 days they have no claim on that money. It is sad but it is true. The job as leader is to explain all of this. 

People are interviewed using the fear of loss method. ANYONE who walks through the doors will be hired. The interviewer is just trying to scare you into giving in on the day of observation (the round 2 of interviews. You follow a leader selected randomly that morning.) Everyone who sticks around at the end of that day of observation for the final meeting that afternoon is hired. They try and scare you into thinking that you could actually go the whole day with a leader and still not get hired. fear of loss, sense of urgency, build break build, stressing the deal are all methods of selling the services to clients. They are also used to sell employees on the job.

Remember that line "I'm interviewing 25 people today and only 4 will be called back." 

They are already using sell tactics to pull you in. The whole business is sell sell sell. Every friendship you have within the office is a sham. Sheep.


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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Yes, Cydcor is a scam

AUTHOR: Jessica - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 28, 2010

This is a very accurate picture of Cydcor. In hindsight, I should have know that there is something wrong when the manager said: "I'm interviewing 25 people today and only 4 will be called back."

Yes, everyone was called back. And what company in a small office space would need to interview 25 people a day, 5 days a week?

Afterwards I found out that Cydcor has some 2,000 reps.  But because of the high turnover rate, every year they hire 25,000 people. Most quit in the first week.

 

 

 

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