Summit Group Summit group is a scam and will not refund money. American Fork Utah

Hy my name is Joseph on December 15th of 2008 I got a call from an individual by the name of Charles Howe who talked to me about starting a home made business. He talked to me about making for 3 to 10 thousand dollars a month. By the way the phone to this scammer is 1(800) 4058582 ext: 1054. So to keep the story going after asking me many questions to qualify he refer me to this other scammer in which I consider scammers by the name of Chandler Ridding his ext is 1094. After a long talk he told me the same things other people on my position has been told. In a month you are going to have a site going and make allot of money plus you are going to have your own web designers to help you design your site. (YEA bull crap) he never mentioned the 3 day money back guarantee that others got, but still got scammed like me. So to continue Mr. Ridding asked me to give a 1500 dollar down payment in which to be honest is where I consider myself stupid for giving in and I did. Then Using a accounting service called Universal account servicing I took a 4000 dollar loan. Now when I started everything seem soo different from what this scammer told me. I hardly got any help from the coaches, I definitely never got web designers help. And it seems I was spending more and more money plus they teached me wrong strategies such as one time I asked this coach How to get a security seal and he told me the following "Just copy and paste the picture from google thats what I do." Yea what a copy right infringement is this, from there I got a clue that this company is not legitimate. So I realize this cost I paid is not worth it. I called and asked for a refund and they responded in inappropriate manner saying " You have to pay us no matter what." Whats funny is that I did an investigation on this thiefs by going to bbb.org stands better business bureau http://www.bbb.org/ and wrote in summit group. Now go under summit group of Utah and see their rating its a D plus which that should be an F. Most of all is not an bbb accredited company. By the way whenever you try to call them they hardly answer the phone due to the fact that they know they are doing a wrong deed to honest citizens. I have filed an FTC report and know I'm talking to my bank. So who ever suffered from this decrepit thiefs please email me at jospin@bresnan.net and from there I can give you my contact number if needed.

Joe
Great Falls, Montana
U.S.A.