Complaint Review: Family RV - Morgan Hill California
- Family RV 19380 Monterey Rd Morgan Hill, California USA
- Phone: 408 612 4700
- Web: www.familyrv.com
- Category: RV Dealers
Family RV No honesty and no integrity - failed to disclose major issues with an RV purchased. Morgan Hill California
*Author of original report: Settlement reached.
*Consumer Comment: Helpful information for RV owners and buyers
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Sadly, no honesty or integrity.
I purchased a 2013 Redwood 5th wheel RV from Family RV, Morgan Hill CA, which they had listed online @ rvtrader.com. Through many communications both via phone and e-mail I was assured by the sales team that the RV was in excellent condition except for two minor scratches on the exterior. I purchased the unit sight unseen and with no implied warranty and had the coach delivered to my home.
On my first day of use the grey water tank leaked and filled the basement with drain water. Subsequently, it was found that the tank was completely full, completely plugged and leaking out the top. The tank had to be completely removed, flushed, repaired and reinstalled and a cost of over $1400.00.
My second day of use the roof membrane separated from the front cap and tore approximately half way back from the front of the coach and had to be replaced at a cost of over $9000.00.
After incurring two weeks of motel charges while the roof was being replaced I once again took possession of the coach and discovered that the refrigerator did not operate in LP mode. $431.00 in refrigerator repairs.
I wrote a letter to Family RV stating that they had misrepresented the condition of the RV and assured me it was inspected and to be in good condition. I stated that they had intentionally failed to disclose the true and accurate condition of the RV, either to me personally or in their sales ad on rvtrader.com. I received a letter from their attorney stating that I had no claim, there is no warranty, and the sales staff was not responsible for statements made concerning the condition of the coach. They did offer a $2000.00 settlement which I refused to accept. An additional offer of $3500.00 was not accepted as I now have approximately $11,000.00 in repairs.
I have many pictures and documentation from independent inspections and it has been positively concluded that the failure of the roof was due to the pre-existing condition of the roof. And that the representatives of Family RV in Morgan Hill, California intentionally and without regard failed to disclose the true condition of the RV at the time of the sale.
This is not a warranty issue, this is a failure to disclose issue. I have submitted a complaint to the office of the Attorney General of California and the DMV Office of Investigations and the Better Business Bureau. The bureau attempted to communicate with Family RV on two separate occasions to no avail.
The following are e-mail communications between myself and others as noted:
We check for rips, tears,. leaks ect.. - Family RV, Sales Group, 6/12/2017
There are no recalls on the roof this happens do to voids in the sealant.
- Jesse Sidwell, Redwood RV, 6/16/2017
We took pictures of your roof before we started any of the replacement repairs and these are our findings. All of the seals were cracking (badly) and should have been resealed before purchase or at least noted somewhere and disclosed. The roof cap screws and molding were separating from the roof decking which is what caused the roof material to separate from the roof, subsequently ripping it down the middle and causing it to fail. In one of our pictures you will notice that there is a roof vent that is coming completely off of the coach and had the seals been inspected and resealed before hand this roof vent might have possibly held up to the wind which you can plainly see it did not - TransWest RV and Truck Repair, 6/23/2017.
No signs of abuse or collision. Appears to membrane came out of the front cap causing a pocket for air to catch while driving and tore roof material off. PDA Appraisal, 6/12/2017
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/23/2017 03:28 PM and is a permanent record located here: https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/family-rv/morgan-hill-california-95037/family-rv-no-honesty-and-no-integrity-failed-to-disclose-major-issues-with-an-rv-purcha-1401946. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year. Ripoff Report has an exclusive license to this report. It may not be copied without the written permission of Ripoff Report. READ: Foreign websites steal our content
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#2 Author of original report
Settlement reached.
AUTHOR: Michael - (United States)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 12, 2017
John Kerley, President of Family RV have reached a settlement agreement concerning my complaint. I wish to extend my thanks to Mr. Kerley.

#1 Consumer Comment
Helpful information for RV owners and buyers
AUTHOR: RV fraud Investigator - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 27, 2017
helpful information for RV owners and buyers
i’m sorry for your troubles and I want to post some helpful information for you and many other RV buyers. Several years ago I own a RV repair business and I got so many complaints of people buying brand new motor homes and have had so much troubles with defective components and this should never happen especially on a brand new motorhome.
There are so many RV dealerships that sell brand new motor homes that refused to do any pre-delivery inspections before they place these motorhomes on the lot for sale. I personally believe that many of these RV dealerships refuse to do these predelivery inspection because they do not want to pay their staff to do it. Instead they would rather you buy the motorhome and bring it back and activate a warranty claim then the RV dealership gets paid to do the work.
I offer my services to attorneys that represent RV buyers at no cost to show them what to look for when they activate a lawsuit against any RV dealership of their choice .
One of the most important things that should be checked out on a brand new motorhome is the LP gas system and let me explain how explosive propane really is
Most RV technicians do not understand the expansion rate of propane here are the facts
If you have 1 gallon of propane in the tank it’s in a liquid form under pressure inside of the tank if that 1 gallon of liquid propane is released into the atmosphere because of a leak that one liquid gallon will expand a 270 gallons of explosive vapor.
1. 5 gallons of propane is equal to 1350 gallons of explosive vapor
2. 25 gallons of propane is equal to 6750 gallons of explosive vapor
3. 50 gallons of propane in the tank is equal to 13,500 gallons of explosive vapor.
Now I am sure that you would like to know if you buy it brand new or used motorhome you want to know if the LP gas system leaks or not. Ask your favorite RV dealership if they can show you the predelivery inspection documentation or the motorhome that you purchased and ask them to show you that leak down test results before you buy a motorhome never after you sign a contract
If they can’t provide you with this kind of documentation you need to get up and walk out and refused to part with your money. When you buy a brand new motorhome you want the experience of enjoying a brand new motor home without any troubles, just like for the most part when you buy a new car.
A law firm in my past hired me to go up against one of the biggest RV dealerships in the country and I proved that the dealership was submitting fraudulent documents with Gord signatures on a predelivery inspection report. I prove to the judge that the document and forge signatures and a proper predelivery inspection was never done on the motorhome and after evaluating the motorhome which was a brand new motorhome I documented 27 pages of repairs that the motorhome need it I made a believer out of the court that the motorhome should’ve never been on the market for sale until after everything was fixed not after he was sold.
Remember you can’t get any TV station or News Reporter Politician Reviews to do any stories on fraudulent misrepresentation RV sales because they get a lot of money from RV dealerships in the form of advertising money.
Every RV fire should always go to Rip Off Report and read the reports that have been posted over the years before you go to any dealership of your choice.
Now I encourage you to go to RipOffReport.com on the homepage just a little ways down on the right-hand side you will see Rip Off Report live
Go to that page and scroll down a little bit on the right-hand side once again and look at the black audio player and listen to the very top number one show listen to it completely that’s me reveaking scams in the RV industry. Listen to that show a couple of times the second show was me talking about scams in the automotive industry. Any law firm who knows what they’re doing when it comes to RV dealership cases that’s worth a grain of salt would agree with everything that I say.
Please do your homework before you part within leave your money please continue to read some of this information that I’m going to post below this is a predelivery inspection check sheet list that RV dealership should be using but they don’t because they don’t want to pay for it.
BEST REGUARDS YOUR RV BUYER ADVOCATE....
The most important functions of an RV are not listed on their list. Items like the
1. LP gas furnace does it leak LP GAS ?
2. The LP gas hot water heater.
3. The LP gas stove.
4. The LP gas refrigerator.
5. The ammonia gas system in the refrigerator does it leak ?
6. The power supply converting 110 V AC over to 12 V DC.
7. The complete plumbing system does it leak ?
8. Does the plumbing system have a water pressure regulator
9. The sewage system the black water and the graywater tanks do they leak ?
10. All of the 12 V system batteries ? Are they holding a charge
11. Does the complete electrical system on the 12 V DC side have any battery drains ?
12. The air conditioning systems the dash AC and the roof AC do they work properly.
13. Does the roof AC unit look like it's properly secured to the roof where it will not leak water when it rains ?
14. Does the shower or the toilet leak water underneath that wood rot the wood out under Neath the shower or the toilet ?
15. The water pump for the RV aspect of the motorhome does it leak it does it maintain normal operating pressure ?
16. Does any aspect of the RV have rotten wood ?
17. Does the LP gas system have leaks anywhere throughout the system ?
18 does the LP gas regulator maintain a normal operating pressure without league downs ?
19 does the RV come with all of the owners manuals for safe and normal operation knowledge ?
20 does the RV have leveling jacks to do the work without hydraulic leaks?
21 has the LP gas furnace been checked for any carbon oxide leaks ? Which can be deadly if not check properly ....
22. When driving the motorhome does the motorhome engine charge the RV batteries properly ?
23. Does the motorhome have slide outs and are they properly aligned so they do not create drag to wear out the electric motors ? I could make this list five times longer.
I could go on for days when it comes to RVs and complete system checks. If someone's only going to charge you a couple of hundred dollars for a complete system check on the motorhome they are an idiot because they don't know what they're doing they don't know the complete systems of a motorhome you cannot take a RV to an automotive shop and have it checked out it's completely different then a car or a pick up truck or a little minivan.
Whoever created this business model has no clue what they're doing. I feel their business model is to refer you to local automotive shops to have your cars and vans and pick up trucks checked out and they are the middleman to make money on work they've never done. The above is my opinion.
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