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Report: #140166

Complaint Review: Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing - Harrodsburgh Kentucky

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  • Reported By: Hillsboro Alabama
  • Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing Harrodsburgh Rd.Lexington Ky Harrodsburgh, Kentucky U.S.A.

Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing illegal pyramid FORTUNE HI-TECH MARKETING CHANGES MARKETING NOW 350$ to JOIN Harrodsburgh Kentucky

*Consumer Comment: Whistle blower releases memoir with facts about FHTM

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Status update on FHTM by Darla DiGrandi

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Status update on FHTM by Darla DiGrandi

*Consumer Comment: Your math sucks and your facts are wrong

*Consumer Comment: FHTMs Judicial Manipulation results in near DEATH!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Blame Game deepens as Fortune Hi-Tech (FHTM) leaders attempt to destroy Whistleblower!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: An important question concerning America's wider moral-standing in the world

*UPDATE Employee: The scam deepens with every lie.

*Consumer Comment: CREDIT REPAIR Credit Repair credit repair

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Corporate Frauds Watch - Verizon gone too

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What is an Assistant to the AG? (Is this a clerk or secretary)

*Consumer Comment: FHTM is caught in a massive LIE

*Consumer Comment: Class Action RICO lawsuit against FHTM and all NSM's

*Consumer Comment: Did you feel

*UPDATE Employee: Do Real Research and Get the true Facts!

*UPDATE Employee: To Each His Own

*Consumer Comment: FHTM Financial Statements are where?

*General Comment: Just wondering...

*UPDATE Employee: You have to work to make Money

*Consumer Comment: 90% from sign-up fees ?????

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: LIARS - LIARS - LIARS

*UPDATE Employee: Hold on Montana!

*Consumer Comment: Montana shuts down FHTM for FRAUD!

*General Comment: You made 10k per month, and QUIT!

*General Comment: Fortune is Astounding

*General Comment: LOL $50 dollar difference?

*Consumer Comment: After sitting in on a pitch

*UPDATE Employee: $299... Proof

*Consumer Comment: Lazy People

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FHTA IS UNETHICAL MARKETING SCHEME

*UPDATE Employee: A little mixed up

*Consumer Suggestion: So close!!!

*UPDATE Employee: This is false information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I was a top-earner with this company

*UPDATE Employee: People that Do not know what they are talking about should keep quiet!

*Consumer Comment: What?

*UPDATE Employee: Interesting Comments

*UPDATE Employee: Interesting Comments

*UPDATE Employee: Interesting Comments

*UPDATE Employee: Interesting Comments

*UPDATE Employee: FHTM Meets ALL 6 Needs of Human Existence!

*Consumer Comment: Tell the truth Larry

*Consumer Comment: Feeling Sorry For You All

*Consumer Comment: Feeling Sorry For You All

*Consumer Comment: Feeling Sorry For You All

*Consumer Comment: Feeling Sorry For You All

*Consumer Suggestion: Here are the important questions that should be answered...

*Consumer Suggestion: Here are the important questions that should be answered...

*Consumer Suggestion: Here are the important questions that should be answered...

*Consumer Suggestion: Here are the important questions that should be answered...

*UPDATE Employee: FHTM will make Millionaires!!

*Consumer Comment: The best company I've ever seen!

*UPDATE Employee: Fortune Hi Tech Marketing, The truth......

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Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing has changed compensation plan. Reason why I think from all the negative publicity. I have has over 400 emails from reps upset. Everything I said was true. Now they have went from 99$ to 199$ to 249$ to 349$ in less than 2 years.

Over 50K reps you do the math. I will break it down 1 more time they have stop charging 399$ for th training fee because that is a illegal pyramid. But they raised there manager fee.

They offered Excel reps a home 1/2 off because they went bankrupt. I made 1000's of dollars with Fortune but I put 1000's out. How when I was in it costed 199 the company paip me upto 380$ with training money. Now people stay how do they stay in business good question here is the answer the 399$ the trainers was paying was covering Paul's expense.

Now I figure the A.G. wrote a friendly letter and told them that was a pyramid scheme. So they had to raise the price to 349 to cover all the people doing what I was doing "BONUS BUYING"

I predict Fortune will be bankrupt just like Excel is now. Kenny Trout was the smartest man cashed in anow is 1 of the 400 ricest man. Pick up a forbes magazine a check it out. Oh did I mention he live in kentucky now.

Larry
Hillsboro, Alabama
U.S.A.

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#53 Consumer Comment

Whistle blower releases memoir with facts about FHTM

AUTHOR: fhtmfacts - ()

POSTED: Thursday, April 18, 2013
Whistle-blower Joseph Isaacs, who was made famous by exposing the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) pyramid scheme and fraud back in 2010 has just released his memoir  called,Skapegoat the FHTM Blame Game Story via Amazon at http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C43JKQG

This compelling, true and personal, story is about a successful semi-retired 30+ year entrepreneur that turned whistle-blower after getting involved with an illegal Ponzi style MLM called Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) in 2009.

Top FHTM leaders and its founder Paul Orberson tried to destroy his life after he developed a FREE Facebook style tool-set for the industry. Subsequent to FHTM receiving their 2nd cease and desist from Montana, he filed a complaint with the Kentucky BBB explaining their fraudulent ways, in an effort to get reimbursement for unwanted inventory. Shortly thereafter they make him the global
scapegoat for everything bad happening to FHTM.

Mr. Isaacs was hit with a frivolous lawsuit claiming trademark violation for marks they never owned. The fortune mark is owned by Time, Inc. and FHTM was under an order to stop using it themselves. This was a foolish attempt to gag him and stifle his "Freedom of Speech" rights to prevent FHTM from being further branded as an "Illegal Pyramid Scheme". The stress of the harassing litigation caused multiple life-threatening heart attacks. Mr. Isaacs almost died in 2011 from the heart issues caused by FHTM. This story will keep you mesmerized by the deceit, sexual
harassment, lies, judicial manipulation, influence peddling and the drama that unfolds over the next couple of years.

His campaign for truth-telling finally bears fruit when FHTM was shut down on the morning of January 28th, 2013 when the FTC and Kentucky AG raided the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing corporate offices in Lexington, Kentucky. Employees were sent walking and all files were confiscated. Northern
District of Illinois Federal Judge Darrah issues a temporary restraining order. Receiver Rob Evans and Associates was appointed.

"This is the beginning of the end for one of the most prolific pyramid schemes operating in North America," Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said. "This is a classic pyramid scheme in every sense of the word. The vast  majority of people, more than 90 percent, who bought in to FHTM lost
their money."
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#52 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Status update on FHTM by Darla DiGrandi

AUTHOR: fhtmfacts - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 28, 2012
For those of you that do not already know, I have left Fortune and moved to a new Network Marketing Company. Below are the reasons why.

Nearly 5 years ago a local business owner introduced me to a Network Marketing company. I saw a way to save & make some extra money on things I was already doing and using. I had no idea at the time where it would lead me and it ended up saving my life at that time from the recession.

It eventually retired me from the hair industry and taught me a new industry that I LOVE today! An industry that is based upon people helping people where your success is measured by how many people on your team are making money and achieving their goals!

That is also when I met my Trainer Scott Aguilar, who said to me, If you will trust me, I will help you buy your life back. From there I went on to make over $1 million dollars in that company and promoted to the top position in less than 2 years.

Facts & Numbers dont lie, people do!

> Our first year in the business we ranked #25 in the USA and made over $300,000 and had many people making over $5,000 a month with a team of less than 3000 people.

> This past 2012 they combined the USA & Canada numbers together & we ranked #13 overall (#11 in USA), up 14 spots from our first year. But listen closely when I tell you we made about $100,000 LESS than our first year! And ONLY one person on our team of over 25,000 people is
currently making more than $5,000 a month.

> We have been on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board 53 of the past 57 months. This proves we are producers in the company and not just lucky.

We used to make $20-$40k a month and now its $8-$15k. And still on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board.

> We have consistently ranked higher each year, yet made less EACH year. If we had ranked lower in the top money earners and made less money, that would be a clear indication that most of the problem was us.  But what does it tell you when our income goes down EACH year while our ranking goes up? That its not us, its the system!

> The norm for nationwide weekly presentation meetings used to be 100-300 people in attendance and monthly trainings with 500-1000, prompting Training Centers to open across the country to handle all the growth. Now weekly meetings are a dozen at best and there are not even meetings in some of those locations and Training Centers are being shut down.

> My first full year there was approx 5,000 people at the annual convention for which I was the emcee. This past year I was also one of the emcees and there was approx 2,500 in attendance (half the size).

> Many leaders are making their lowest pay in their careers and cant even make their FREE BMW payment. Having 70 Executives in my down line, I am able to see their numbers and it breaks my heart to see that NONE of those 70 ESMs are doubling their E code! These are good hard working
people struggling with the What am I doing wrong syndrome.

> Not to mention how many Pres Ambassadors, Platinums and Nationals are making less than $5,000 per month and having to go back to getting jobs to pay their bills. These are good people that know how to build a team. Once again its not them, its the system.

> I am one of the hardest working people in this company and probably in the industry. If I cant help good, hard working people make money, then its time to take a step back and look at the Big Picture.

After YEARS of CONSTANT compensation plan changes and product & service changes, this is not the same company I joined nearly 5 years ago.

Leaving our company is not something we wanted to do. It was something that as a leader, we need to do. Leaders are responsible for taking people towards their WHY, not away from it. We did not take this decision lightly. It was a grueling decision. But we could no longer sit back and ignore the writing on the walls.

When I started, I didnt even know the name of the company. I trusted in a person that I met named Scott Aguilar. I had a WHY. It was to set my family free and get out of debt and it was his role to help me get there.

Before we made this decision, we took time to reflect on all the above facts, did a lot of research, took our concerns directly to the founder, prayed for vision and direction, asked a lot of questions to Industry leaders and ALSO to people who have previously left our company that are having tremendous success in other companies.

We chose our new company based on the 4 balances of business: The Company, The System, The Support & The Product.

In closing I leave you with this thought:

Youre on a cross-country journey with your loved ones trying to get to your goals and dreams. One of your tires has a hole in it and you have to keep stopping to put Fix-A-Flat in it every few miles. Praying everyday you dont get a blow out and that you make it a little further till the next stop. Fix A Flat can only go so far and last so long!

Wouldnt it make more sense to stop the constant stress n struggle and change the tire?

This letter is being released to address the rumors and lies that are being spread by those at the VERY top of the corporate company and the PA and PSM at the top of the west coast. The company plans to recode my former team to this PA and PSM. Another Fix-A-Flat attempt. The objective from the tops is to make Scott & I look greedy and lazy and to make our new comp plan look bad.

I am proud to be a Network Marketer! I will stay in this Industry because it is the only industry that allows me to lead an army to their dreams! We are EXCITED about the future and getting back to our goal of helping people achieve their goals.

Take time to research and reflect back on the facts in your business. Dont listen to hear say or rumors. Ask to see proof of current income from people at the top or that are trying to recode you. Call me if you have any questions 760-578-7183 and if you want me to keep it confidential, I will!
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#51 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Status update on FHTM by Darla DiGrandi

AUTHOR: fhtmfacts - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, December 28, 2012
For those of you that do not already know, I have left Fortune and moved to a new Network Marketing Company. Below are the reasons why.

Nearly 5 years ago a local business owner introduced me to a Network Marketing company. I saw a way to save & make some extra money on things I was already doing and using. I had no idea at the time where it would lead me and it ended up saving my life at that time from the recession.

It eventually retired me from the hair industry and taught me a new industry that I LOVE today! An industry that is based upon people helping people where your success is measured by how many people on your team are making money and achieving their goals!

From there I went on to make over $1 million dollars in that company and promoted to the top position in less than 2 years.

Facts & Numbers dont lie, people do!

> Our first year in the business we ranked #25 in the USA and made over $300,000 and had many people making over $5,000 a month with a team of less than 3000 people.

> This past 2012 they combined the USA & Canada numbers together & we ranked #13 overall (#11 in USA), up 14 spots from our first year. But listen closely when I tell you we made about $100,000 LESS than our first year! And ONLY one person on our team of over 25,000 people is currently making more than $5,000 a month.

> We have been on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board 53 of the past 57 months. This proves we are producers in the company and not just lucky. We used to make $20-$40k a month and now its $8-$15k. And still on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board.

> The norm for nationwide weekly presentation meetings used to be 100-300 people in attendance and monthly trainings with 500-1000, prompting Training Centers to open across the country to handle all the growth. Now weekly meetings are a dozen at best and there are not even meetings in some of those locations and Training Centers are being shut down.

> My first full year there was approx 5,000 people at the annual convention for which I was the emcee. This past year I was also one of the emcees and there was approx 2,500 in attendance (half the size).

> Many leaders are making their lowest pay in their careers and cant even make their FREE BMW payment. Having 70 Executives in my down line, I am able to see their numbers and it breaks my heart to see that NONE of those 70 ESMs are doubling their E code! These are good hard working people struggling with the What am I doing wrong syndrome.

> Not to mention how many Pres Ambassadors, Platinums and Nationals are making less than $5,000 per month and having to go back to getting jobs to pay their bills. These are good people that know how to build a team. Once again its not them, its the system.

After YEARS of CONSTANT compensation plan changes and product & service changes, this is not the same company I joined nearly 5 years ago. Leaving our company is not something we wanted to do. It was something that as a leader, we need to do. Leaders are responsible for taking people towards their WHY, not away from it. We did not take this decision lightly. It was a grueling decision. But we could no longer sit back and ignore the writing on the walls.

This letter is being released to address the rumors and lies that are being spread by those at the VERY top of the corporate company and the PA and PSM at the top of the west coast. The company plans to recode my former team to this PA and PSM. Another Fix-A-Flat attempt. The objective from the tops is to make Scott & I look greedy and lazy and to make our new comp plan look bad.

Take time to research and reflect back on the facts in your business. Dont listen to hear say or rumors. Ask to see proof of current income from people at the top or that are trying to recode you. Call me if you have any questions 760-578-7183 and if you want me to keep it confidential, I will!
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#50 Consumer Comment

Your math sucks and your facts are wrong

AUTHOR: fhtmfacts - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, December 12, 2012
Wake up and smell the coffee. FHTM has never done 600 million in a year. In fact it has not done that much business since the scam started in 2001. According the DSN it only did 110 million in 2010 so where in the hell do you get that garbage from? I know - Todd Rowland, Ruel Morton and all of the other cult leaders.

The top dildos at FHTM have been lying about everything since they started. They DO NOT do the type of numbers they claim. Their reps DO NOT make anywhere near what they claim. They were NOT debt free. They have no business relationships with anyone other than themselves.

They are still under investigation by many state Attorneys General including a major investigation in NC.

Todd Rowland lost his rent-a-mansion a few months back because he couldn't afford the payments.

Woodson Gardner is married to a convicted child molester and sexual predator. Welcome her into your home soon and see what might happen.
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#49 Consumer Comment

FHTMs Judicial Manipulation results in near DEATH!

AUTHOR: fhtmfacts - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, August 31, 2012
                                                                                                            
Everyone has heard of Death of a Salesman, but not Death of a Defendant. It is so incomprehensible to understand how a company that claims its mere existence is to help as many as possible can also be so arrogant to also believe that they can manipulate the justice system to a point where they push until someone almost dies. After exposing the truth about Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) I was sued in an attempt to shut me up and stifle my rights to freedom of speech.

One online poster put it this way recently on You Tube in response to an ABC news clip about FHTM from 2010. If the fate of your business model rests at the hands of one individual, (not me) to the extent that you have to spend millions of thousands of dollars to try and shut him up then the system is just fatally flawed. Fix the PROBLEM not the SYMPTOM. This is all just a side effect of what you have created. I dont see the worst of the worst companies out there that act like this or have to put up with this nonsense. Whats the common denominator? Stop acting like 3rd graders and run a business for once.

Not only are they arrogant enough to think they have to the right to destroy me financially but they continued the harassment and intentional lies to the Federal courts until I was on my death bed almost gone. The facts of the briefs and filing seem to be so elusive yet the documents are merely based on unsubstantiated speculation and outright lies. The manipulation of our justice system and the never ending harassment resulted in a massive heart attack for me.

FHTM has engaged in a malicious prosecution since the very beginning. Filing a trademark violation case for using the world Fortune which they knew was owned by Time Magazine, and not them, was just a way to take advantage of me, cause emotional stress and drag me through the court system, costing me 100s of thousands of dollars that I didnt have in order to defend against their BS. This has been a case of malicious prosecution and I should be protected by the tort laws against unjustifiable and unreasonable litigation. The ex- FHTM general counsel, who by the way was not even licensed to practice law in Kentucky during her tenure with them has displayed
a great deal of malice and wrongful intent. She carried pent up dislike and animosity toward me, when I refused to kiss her a*s.  She attempted to intimidate me as their general counsel when in fact she was acting as a lawyer illegally. She has since been reprimanded by the Kentucky Bar Association.  She demonstrated sloppy legal and factual research by creating suppositions and rumors instead of facts. No evidence existed or exists to back any of their claims. There is a great imbalance in power between the parties, with an apparent desire by FHTM to intimidate or punish me. A typical David and Goliath scenario unfolded from the very beginning of the drama that she created. If they had a case with legal merit they would have never agreed to a settlement in June 2011 let alone based on the terms they initiated.

FHTM continues to purposefully engage in behavior that is intended to cause severe mental anguish and they should be penalized for the intentional infliction of emotional distress. Their behavior should be deemed as extreme and outrageous. I am a person of average temperament who has suffered great emotional distress and grave life threatening health issues caused by the continued FHTM actions. Considering I have not worked since July 2011 and almost lost my wife in a divorce over this insane controversy, one would think they would get the point. You cannot get blood from a stone although I dont think they will be satisfied until I am on welfare and living in a cardboard box under a bridge somewhere.  I feel it is being done intentionally to cause emotional distress with reckless disregard to me as a person.  This willful neglect has further resulted in damages to my reputation, loss of gainful employment and almost my death.

One year ago, in June 2011 we entered into a settlement agreement which was intended to eliminate the proceeding, unbelievable financial and emotional stress and put our issues to rest forever. In the last year they have done everything possible to manipulate the judicial system in an effort to stall or delay its finalization.  

I have left them alone this past year since the settlement. No media interviews, no television appearances and no blogging. It doesnt matter. They are so hell bent on blaming me for every
negative comment made about them anywhere on the internet that they are blinded by the fact that others despise them as well. They have made me the scapegoat for all of their fraudulent ways. If they spent as much time in fixing their lies to act more like a real business then they wouldnt need to continue to harass and destroy me.

Their continued malicious prosecution and harassment resulted in my stress level hitting the roof in
August 2011 causing a major life threatening heart attack. I underwent two major surgeries inside of a month to save my life. Doctors orders were to eliminate anything stressful in my life including the FHTM litigation and my job. I was forced into retirement and went broke as a direct result of the
litigation by FHTM in their attempt to kill me. They dont seem to have any remorse about my health situation, my lack of employment and income. Instead they hired another group of lawyers and pursued me harder than before. It is like they smelled the blood and wont let up till I am gone from the face of the earth permanently.

Who in their sane mind would ever think that such a respectable company would spend all of their resources on attempted murder? Why not be happy that I agreed to leave them alone? Why not
move on, fix your scandalous ways and continue screwing people, but leave me alone? They knew of my heart attack last summer but yet instead of going their separate ways, as agreed, they dug in harder, deeper and became more vicious.

Their intentions are clear - dont rest until I am dead and gone. Can this be considered attempted murder?
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#48 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The Blame Game deepens as Fortune Hi-Tech (FHTM) leaders attempt to destroy Whistleblower!

AUTHOR: fhtmclassaction - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, May 12, 2011
Courtesy of Slavick Scungilia, The Sentinel - UK

Talk to any of the top leaders in Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing nowadays and they will tell you
that Joseph Isaacs is the key to their recent business failures, representative departures, product losses and legal woes. These stories have been fabricated by Paul Orberson and passed down to many of the leaders including Todd Rowland, Ruel Morton and Woodson Gardner, who have in turn spread the rumors through the lower ranks of the FHTM sales force. Fortune holds weekly leadership calls that include the Presidential Ambassadors and top NSMs to discuss their legal woes
and put a spin on the latest BS that they intend to disseminate to the troops in order to cover up the real truth about their scam and to totally discredit Isaacs. Instead of facing the facts about the situation, they claim he has single handedly destroyed their business relationships, their down lines, their product offerings and brought numerous AG's up their asses. If Isaacs is capable of such a huge feat - then FHTM should wake up and hire him to rebuild their highly tarnished image. Isaacs obviously possess better determination and skills than they ever gave him credit for.

They have created elaborate stories about him that are about as real as their supposed direct
relationships were with GE, DuPont, Verizon, Travelocity, Dish Networks and AT&T. Everyone now knows that those direct relationships never existed, nor did FHTM have permission to use those company logos. In fact, during the past year since the harassment against Isaacs began, FHTM has lost the ability to sell Verizon Wireless, AT&T, Travelocity, Peter Lamas, BSP Rewards Mall and GE.
DuPont has forbidden them from any additional use of their logo or name (no more trying to be legal by association). Time, Inc., a Time Warner Company and owner of Fortune magazine,  required them in 2011, to add the following disclaimer on the bottom of www.fhtm.net, FHTM is not sponsored by, endorsed by affiliated with or otherwise associated with Time Inc or Fortune
Magazine.  They have been claiming association for years.

Isaacs applauds these companies for protecting their reputations and walking from any distant relationships they may have had with FHTM.  We can only conclude that their reputations were more important, to these icons, than the menial amount of business sent to them by FHTM. Maybe these entities didnt want a public relations nightmare on their hands in the event another state or federal agency shut FHTM down in 2011, or even worse the FTC enforcement bureau charges Paul  Orberson criminally. Its unfortunate that the FHTM leaders arent familiar with the expression, Keep
your friends close and your enemies closer.  Isaacs was a huge ally of FHTM until regulatory authorities began their investigations and fines.

FHTM and the top leaders are so desperate for business and recruits that they have made up
ridiculous stories about Isaacs in an effort to save their preverbal asses. The story lines are so bizarre and false that they sound like they are right out of the Twilight Zone. Then to make it worse they have sued this whistleblower, lied to the courts and created more BS to hide the real fact that they operate, according to Monica Lindeen of the Montana Securities Commission, an illegal promotional pyramid scheme. This story would make a great documentary pinning the criminals against the advocates of the truth.

They were not exonerated in Montana. It was never proven they were a legal enterprise. In fact Montana required they change their entire method of operation and refund almost $1Million to ex reps who felt they had been ripped-off. FHTM intentionally settled the case with Montana so they wouldnt have to publically admit any guilt, have a determination and being branded a pyramid scheme or have a media nightmare when the lost in court. This is the modis apperendi for most MLMs that get in trouble for operating illegally.

Newspapers and thousands of past reps talk about FHTM on hundreds of blogging sites with complaints of fraud, scam and pyramid scheme dating back to 2003, yet FHTM has decided to focus merely on Isaacs and in a recent brief to the court states that FHTM has no issues with any other reps except Isaacs. This is because FHTM has never persecuted any other reps or ex-reps for expressing their opinions or repeating what newspapers and government agencies have said. The despise Orberson and his staff has for Isaacs is borderline schizophrenic. Isaacs is the victim here yet FHTM has done everything to portray him as a lunatic out to destroy them.

The victims of these frauds are our neighbors people who are trying to make an honest living, said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTCs Bureau of Consumer Protection. Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises
and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt. When jobs are scarce, claims to help people make money fast become plentiful, Cooper said. Consumers think theyre buying into a great way to earn a living, but they could end up paying far more than theyll ever make. Why isnt FHTM suing the FTC director for his slanderous statements? Do we live in the United States of Cuba and Castro is our president?

According to a press release issued by the NC AGs office in March 2011, Fortune Hi Tech Marketing claims that people who buy into its business earn thousands of dollars a year. Based on consumer complaints, Coopers office launched an investigation into FHTM in mid 2010. Consumers say they paid money to the company but were only able to make money by recruiting others into the scheme,
not by selling any actual goods or services. A total of 25 consumers have now complained about FHTM, and Coopers office is investigating the company.

Although this case is currently under investigation, its important for consumers to know that a pyramid scheme is a violation of the law and is defined as any plan in which a participant pays money for the chance to receive money upon the introduction of new participants into the program.

The truth of the matter, according to FHTMs own Income Disclosure statement from 2009, (before all these legal issues) 30% of the people made zero and 90% earned less than $100 a month prior to expenses.  Isaacs feels this fits the FHTM business model to a tee. The old adage, Dont shoot the messenger definitely applies to the FHTM-Isaacs ordeal. They should work on cleaning up their internal house of cards instead of persecuting the messenger of the truth. It appears ok when
an AG makes such a statement but FHTM considers it slanderous when its repeated by Isaacs (according to recent motions and briefs filed in the court case). How is that reasonable? Where is the justice in this country? What happens to Isaacs rights as an American citizen?

Were looking closely at business opportunities that seem to offer false hopes, and also reaching out to educate consumers on how to recognize and avoid fraud, Cooper said. Isaacs has done nothing but inform the public of the truth but FHTM is attempting to completely discredit Isaacs, claiming he lies about his statements regarding FHTM when in fact FHTM has lied about their entire operation since its founder Paul Orberson started the criminal enterprise in 2001.

Mr. Isaacs integrity and moral fiber runs deep and therefore he spent his own time and money to dig up and uncover the real facts about many facets of their criminal enterprise such as the fact that
they a) had no direct relationships with the companies they claimed (FHTM was nothing more than a 3rd or 4th part affiliate they were never an authorized dealer of anyone as they claim); b) did not have permission from icons such as GE and DuPont to use those company logos in the FHTM presentation, marketing materials, online or in the representative kits. FHTM had the audacity to blame their own representatives for this cease and desist even though they used the DuPont logo in all company produced marketing and presentation materials; c) FHTM was not debt free as they still claimed in their business presentations and up until mid 2010 - the entire company and all
of its assets including inventory and receivables were pledged as collateral for a business loan; d) FHTM has not had a 3A1 Dunn & Bradstreet rating for many years but as recently as the summer of 2010 the NSMs and top leaders in FHTM still used that in their recruiting presentations; and e) many Attorneys Generals had FHTM on their scope after the Montana issue arose in early 2010.
Isaacs should not be blamed for the misrepresentations and deceit FHTM has perpetrated on too many people.  FHTM should look within instead.

Recently rumors have circulated (as comments on various blog sites and articles posted throughout the internet) that Isaacs was terminated from FHTM for selling porn on "Fortune Social". 
www.fortunesocial.com was developed by Isaacs and his team from India to be the first social network dedicated to the direct selling industry (which according to Isaacs he supports). As a former rep in FHTM he thought there was a need for such a FREE tool. FHTM has rumored that the tool made money, violated their rules and stole their intellectual property. What a delusional thought pattern they have. Others say, including verbiage in a Federal lawsuit filed by FHTM against Isaacs, it was for trademark violations for using the word "Fortune" in his website URL (even though FHTM has been issued a cease and desist from Time, Inc - the real owner of the word Fortune) and his logo for Fortune Social. This is about as far from reality as one could get. FHTM knows it has no claim to the word Fortune especially since the rightful owners (Time, Inc.) demanded, as far back as 2009 and prior to Isaacs being a rep or being sued by FHTM, that Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing rebrand or risk legal actions. It was demanded that Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing become FHTM and stop using the Fortune name in their URLs, logos, materials, etc.  No more association with Fortune magazine, no more Fortune Wireless or Fortune TV, etc. How arrogant is it for FHTM to then file a trademark infringement and cybersquatting lawsuit against Isaacs for using the word they have been told to cease using as they were violating someone elses intellectual property. This is totally an abuse of process. Soon the truth will surface and they will once again have egg on their face. Recently in a brief to the Arbitrator in the trademark case, after one year of insane litigation and abuse of process, they admitted they have no right to the word Fortune, although FHTM has refused to drop the case. The lawsuit against Isaacs is not about winning, which is extremely obvious by the fact that they only claim a mere $208.00 in total damages, have zero proof that
Isaacs ever used or intended to use their logos in commerce and have spent, in our estimate, upwards of million in legal fees to date. Who in their right mind spends $500,000 to maybe win $208.00? This is about the destruction of Isaacs and not justice.

Others, including FHTM corporate, rumor that he tried to extort millions from FHTM because he failed as an independent representative. The real fact was that after Montana shut FHTM down, Isaacs attempted to get into a financial transaction with FHTM to have them buy his software, system and programs which they could have resold to their reps. His webinar program was proprietary and
would have been a great business building tool for any direct selling organization. FHTM declined his offer and then spun a story that Isaacs attempted to extort money from FHTM by trying to sell them their intellectual property. The truth of the matter is that FHTM didnt have nor will they ever have an interest in the Isaacs webinar system. FHTM has no legal right to the word Fortune so selling them www.fortunewebinars.com or www.fortunesocial.com was something they never owned. Go to Meeting and WebEx were similar programs that are used by network marketers worldwide. This tool was one FHTM had no ability to develop, now or in the future - their loss.

Others say it wasnt for following the FHTM rules (same rules the top leaders ignore and taught him to ignore). FHTM has a very selective enforcement team and is riddled with massive nepotism. If you make Paul Orberson millions of dollars annually you are exempt from any rules and never get punished for anything, even if you bring the heat onto FHTM like Mike Misenheimer (Presidential
Ambassador) did in Montana. If you are a peon representative at the bottom of the pyramid, you are subject to ridicule, termination and ridiculous legal actions.  

FHTM has tried to convict Isaacs of running a smear campaign against them for repeating what other newspapers have written, Attorneys Generals have said and for merely telling the truth about their scam. Isnt this the pot calling the kettle black? Clearly it appears to be insane that the company built on lies and deceit is suing the person who exposes them, claiming tortuous interference, slander and defamation. Doesnt the US Constitution prevent such abuse of
process?

They even attempted, in December 2010, to have a Federal Judge eliminate Isaacs right to
freedom of speech by asking for an injunction. Obviously the federal court sided with Isaacs and denied such a request. They have tried over and over to destroy Isaacs financially by continuing to file frivolous and inappropriate motions in both federal court and arbitration. They have dug into Isaacs background in order to create stories and shed light on his integrity. It seems to be legal for FHTM, the gorilla, to do this but when Isaacs digs into the FHTM background and exposes the truth about them he gets dragged through the mud in court. When will a court or Federal regulatory authority get so deep into the FHTM lies that they are prevented from scamming so many hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting people just trying to get ahead in this world?

Current FHTM representatives have so many issues because of the loss of products, points and
commissions that they need a scapegoat and an excuse for their woes. Nobody has had the balls to stand up to this MLM in a way Isaacs has. They have now used Isaacs as the poster child for what happens to those that speak out against them. If Isaacs was reporting government agency or public corporation lies in a similar fashion to his expose of FHTM he would be protected by the US Federal Whistleblower laws that prevent the type of retaliatory litigation and harassment he has had to endure for the past 14 months.

When will the crap cease and FHTM begin to tell the truth? Probably never since none of their plan is built on anything with substance and none of their lies have any proven facts attached to them. They have not won the case against Isaacs, the multiple class actions have not been decided in FHTMs favor, as of the date of this article, and Isaacs continues to feel the wrath of the self proclaimed King of MLM, Paul Orberson. We feel sorry for Isaacs and applaud his morals and ethics in standing up for the little guy and telling the world what is right and how FHTM is wrong.
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#47 UPDATE EX-employee responds

An important question concerning America's wider moral-standing in the world

AUTHOR: fhtmclassaction - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, May 07, 2011
An important question concerning America's wider moral-standing in the world

At a time when the current, elected leadership of the USA, and many Americans, have been claiming absolute moral authority in the wake of the US military's summary execution of Osama Bin Laden (the latest in a long line of megalomaniacal, psychopathic cult leaders guilty of perpetrating, and/or directing, evermore heinous crimes whilst steadfastly pretending absolute moral authority), yet again we have come back to an important question concerning America's wider moral-standing in the world, which the current, elected leadership of the USA, and many patriotic Americans, still seem incapable of comprehending, let alone addressing - 

Has (what is now commonly-referred to as) 'Multi-Level Marketing ' been:

1). a fundamentally-lawful and philanthropic enterprise created, self-regulated and openly-declared by honest and ethical Americans who have sold economically-viable 'business opportunities' through which significant numbers of fully-informed participants around the globe have been able to earn their livings by regularly retailing exclusive, good-value products, and/or services, to the public for a profit ?

2). a fundamentally-unlawful and pernicious enterprise created, centrally-controlled and occulted
by various gangs of narcissistic, US-based racketeers who have (as a result of chronic US regulatory failure and organized political corruption) been allowed to pretend absolute moral and intellectual authority whilst luring an endless-chain of tens of millions of ill-informed individuals around the globe into unconsiously participating in a series of essentially-identical, self-perpetuating, dissimulated closed-market swindles, and related advance fee frauds, which have generated, and continue to
generate, many billions of dollars by exposing their victims (without their fully-informed consent) to co-ordinated, devious techniques of social, psychological and physical persuasion designed to shut down individuals' critical and evaluative faculties and convert them to the self-gratifying, but economically-suicidal, group-delusion that the exact duplication of a plan of self-consumption and recruitment can lead anyone to 'total financial freedom?'

Perhaps the most powerful weapon against totalistic cults like 'al Qaeda' and FHTM would be for the current, elected leadership of the USA to face up to reality and make the effort to put their own, far-from-morally-perfect house in order.
 

David Brear (copyright 2011)
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#46 UPDATE Employee

The scam deepens with every lie.

AUTHOR: fhtmclassaction - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 20, 2011
The owners of this scam continue
to take advantage of  1000s of new
victims weekly by convincing them into joining as they reap the benefits of a
purported $500Million dollar nationwide criminal enterprise. 2010 started off with
the Attorney General of North Dakota issuing a cease and desist for operating a
business in that state without the proper licensing. That was followed by the
Montana Securities Commissioner, Monica Lindeen also shutting them down, but
this time, it was for operating as an illegal endless recruiting pyramid
scheme. The company was forced to change their business practices (in an
attempt to make their business appear to be legal. Can you do that if you were
already legal or is that an oxymoron), charge only $75.00 entrance fee (from the
then current $299.00) to new Montanans who wished to explore the American Dream
through FHTM and refund almost $1,000,000 to the good folks of that state who
made no money and wanted a refund of monies paid.

FHTM was also forced to produce
(one time only) an income disclosure statement (IDS) which according to
industry expert, Robert FitzPatrick who is the President of Pyramid Scheme
Alert, is so skewed that it isnt worth the paper it is written on because the
figures do not include the almost 30% who did not make even a dime in this
business opportunity. Looking at the numbers produced by FHTM itself, over 90%
fail.

In talking to FHTM reps, they
insist on telling the story that every business is a Pyramid and so is the
government. What they fail to differentiate is what is a legal and an illegal
pyramid scheme. They go on to explain that 95% of all businesses in America
fail and the team they have an opportunity to build in FHTM will produce a
lifetime of residual income. FHTM claims that building the Fortune opportunity
is a willable, trustable and saleable enterprise, but that is false. They have
coined the phrase, Loyal Customer. In fact, the reality is that when reps
drop out of this business (and 90% or better will do so within 6 months) all of
those loyal customers are gone along with the residual income. Most sales of
products and services are to the IRs that have paid for the right to be part
of this business opportunity.

Existing IRs saw multiple compensation changes that were sold to them as a
message from God and as another pay raise yet it was merely a way to screw
more at the bottom of this pyramid and enrich those that were hand-picked by
the self proclaimed King of MLM, Paul Orberson.

In fact there were more than a
half dozen compensation changes that occurred in 2010 which somehow parallels
the dozen state Attorneys General (IL, TX, SC, NC, CA, KY, ND and MT) that
began active investigations into this alleged pyramid scheme. FHTM had an F
rating with the KY BBB until November/December 2010, when top leaders in the
organization posted bulletins asking for their IRs to report FHTM as a model
company which assisted in raising the current rating to a C. What a sham that
system is. Self rating goes against the grain of having the BBB in the first
place.

Like the bosses, and
reality-inverting propagandists, of the 'Amway' mob, the bosses, and
reality-inverting propagandists, of the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' mob
have steadfastly pretended that:  Their direct selling company is perfectly lawful
and is associated with all manner of trusted household-names in the
USA. They cannot be held responsible if some rogue 'Independent FHTM
Business Owners' do not obey the company's own rules which oblige them
regularly to sell significant quantities of good-value products, and
services, to the public for a profit. 

At the same time,
numerous dissidents, testify that the 'FHTM' plan for financial freedom is,
in point of fact, a dissimulated closed-market swindle, in which unlawful
internal payments (in exchange for effectively-unsalable wampum) have been
arbitrarily defined as lawful external 'sales.' In this way, tens of thousands
of 'FHTM'
adherents continue to be deceived into handing over regular
cash-payments to a counterfeit 'direct
selling company' controlled by a little gang of sanctimonious
racketeers, on the pretext that  anyone can retire from work by being
their own loyal 'FHTM ' customer and by recruiting their friends and relations
to be their own loyal customers, etc. ad infinitum.

Fortune Hi-Tech has lied about everything
in their business presentations since day one including statements about being
debt-free, its D&B rating and its business relationships/partnerships with
real fortune 100 companies to cover up their illegal ways and to produce the
aura that they are some way legal because of these affiliations (Legal by
Association). Since 2010 major companies like GE, DuPont, AT&T, Verizon
Wireless, Travelocity, Home Depot and Peter Lamas have either run from these
relationships or claimed they never existed in the first place including the their
demand that FHTM discontinue the unauthorized use of their coveted logos,
trademarks and names in presentations and printed materials. Fortune thought it
was ok to use the logos of major international enterprises to enhance their own
image in order to appear as if they were legal when in fact their entire
enterprise is built on misrepresentations. They attempted to tie themselves to
Fortune Magazine until ex-representatives revealed the truth, henceforth the
recent (end of 2010) disclaimer on the bottom of the FHTM corporate website
that now states FHTM is not sponsored by, endorsed by, affiliated with, or
otherwise associated with, Time Inc. or Fortune Magazine. For years this
company has used the names of famous people to provide evidence of legitimacy,
all which were lies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyGaQfDP--c&feature=related

The nightmare for representatives
deepened as FHTM was about to hold its national convention in Lexington,
Kentucky in September 2010. On the eve of the convention USA Today appeared
there to interview IRs and attend its presentations. It was the same day that
Fortune, its officers and 40 top distributors were served with its first of two
class action lawsuits claiming mail and wire fraud, RICO violations, pyramid
scheme and money laundering.

The FHTM outside legal team got
an early Christmas present with the filing of the 2nd class-action
lawsuit in the Southern District of California on December 22, 2010. This
lawsuit mirrors, in many ways, the one originally filed in Kentucky in early
September with the addition of multiple violations of California consumer
protection laws. The California judge recently sent that case to combine with
the Kentucky one.

FHTM has only succeeded in recent
years because of the recession and the fact that its top reps in 2004 brought
their teams from the defunct Excel Communications (Another MLM that operated in
the gray area of the law until it went bankrupt). They were hand-picked by Paul
Orberson to be the top reps in FHTM, paid to bring their teams, given large
cash bonuses and a back door deal which included a piece of the pie (equity).
They are referred to as the Fab 6 by Paul Orberson. This enterprise will
always remain private to hide these side deals and the money made by its
founders.

How can representatives in 2011 continue to tout this as the best marketing
plan and business opportunity ever when the founders have been caught in so
many lies, changed the compensation plan to further enrich those at the top,
have such a huge 95%+ failure rate, are being sued in Federal court by ex-reps
as well as ex-vendors and have multiple states investigating their illegal
ways?

They buy magazine covers, give to
charity and self published their own autobiography in an effort to prove
legitimacy. Some reps even claim that they are approved to do business in all
50 states. That is far from the truth as no State ever approves or disapproves
the business plan of any business.

In 2010 Fortune made a decision
to solicit the Latino markets throughout the USA and recruit by promising green
cards. They dont care whether the Latino immigrants are legal or not. Anyone
can join FHTM if they pay the fees. If you are an illegal immigrant, an
unemployed truck driver or just a fool this business is for you. If you dont
mind operating an enterprise that never can be willed, sold or profitable -
this business is for you. If you dont mind screwing your friends and family to
get into a business with you that you know they will lose money in this
business is for you. If you dont mind buying or selling overpriced goods and
services this business is for you. If you have the ability to tell folks this
is your destiny per Gods word this business is for you. If you are a great
liar this business is for you.

Most of the revenues created by
FHTM reps are made by recruiting others into this Ponzi scheme and not from the
residual income as they claim. 80% or better sales are to the reps themselves
so they can qualify their business in order to get paid bonuses for bringing in
others. This violates the FTC rules and the laws in almost 50 states.

In 2011 FHTM was added to the
joint investigation by the FTC and individual state AGs Operation Empty
Promises. It was recently discovered that many representatives at the
Executive and National level are pocking huge sums of cash from presentations
and meeting and skirting their obligations to the IRS. This is not only
promoted by but is also endorsed by Paul Orberson the self proclaimed highest
paid network marketer of all times.

For more on this company go to www.fhtmclassaction.info
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#45 Consumer Comment

CREDIT REPAIR Credit Repair credit repair

AUTHOR: Turk - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 06, 2011
Credit Repair: How to Help Yourself
You see the advertisements in newspapers, on TV, and on the Internet. You hear them on the radio. You get fliers in the mail, and maybe even calls offering credit repair services. They all make the same claims:


Credit problems? No problem!


We can remove bankruptcies, judgments, liens, and bad loans from your credit file forever!


We can erase your bad credit 100% guaranteed.


Create a new credit identity legally.


The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) says do yourself a favor and save some money, too. Dont believe these claims: theyre very likely signs of a scam. Indeed, attorneys at the nations consumer protection agency say theyve never seen a legitimate credit repair operation making those claims. The fact is theres no quick fix for creditworthiness. You can improve your credit report legitimately, but it takes time, a conscious effort, and sticking to a personal debt repayment plan.


Recognizing a Credit Repair Scam


Everyday, companies target consumers who have poor credit histories with promises to clean up their credit report so they can get a car loan, a home mortgage, insurance, or even a job once they pay them a fee for the service. The truth is, these companies cant deliver an improved credit report for you using the tactics they promote. Its illegal: No one can remove accurate negative information from your credit report. So after you pay them hundreds or thousands of dollars in fees, youre left with the same credit report and someone else has your money.


If you see a credit repair offer, heres how to tell if the company behind it is up to no good:


The company wants you to pay for credit repair services before they provide any services. Under the Credit Repair Organizations Act, credit repair companies cannot require you to pay until they have completed the services they have promised.
The company doesnt tell you your rights and what you can do for yourself for free.
The company recommends that you do not contact any of the three major national credit reporting companies directly.
The company tells you they can get rid of most or all the negative credit information in your credit report, even if that information is accurate and current.
The company suggests that you try to invent a new credit identity and then, a new credit report by applying for an Employer Identification Number to use instead of your Social Security number.
The company advises you to dispute all the information in your credit report, regardless of its accuracy or timeliness.
If you follow illegal advice and commit fraud, you may find yourself in legal hot water, too: Its a federal crime to lie on a loan or credit application, to misrepresent your Social Security number, and to obtain an Employer Identification Number from the Internal Revenue Service under false pretenses. You could be charged and prosecuted for mail or wire fraud if you use the mail, telephone, or Internet to apply for credit and provide false information.


Your Rights Regarding Credit Repair


No one can legally remove accurate and timely negative information from a credit report. The law allows you to ask for an investigation of information in your file that you dispute as inaccurate or incomplete. There is no charge for this. Some people hire a company to investigate on their behalf, but anything a credit repair clinic can do legally, you can do for yourself at little or no cost. According to the Fair Credit Reporting Act (FCRA):


Youre entitled to a free report if a company takes adverse action against you, like denying your application for credit, insurance, or employment. You have to ask for your report within 60 days of receiving notice of the action. The notice will give you the name, address, and phone number of the consumer reporting company. Youre also entitled to one free report a year if youre unemployed and plan to look for a job within 60 days; if youre on welfare; or if your report is inaccurate because of fraud, including identity theft.
Each of the nationwide consumer reporting companies Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion is required to provide you with a free copy of your credit report once every 12 months, if you ask for it. The three companies have a central website, a toll-free telephone number, and a mailing address for consumers to order the free annual credit reports the government entitles them to. To order, click on annualcreditreport.com, call 1-877-322-8228, or complete the Annual Credit Report Request Form and mail it to:
Annual Credit Report Request Service
P.O. Box 105281
Atlanta, GA 30348-5281


You can use the form in this brochure, or you can print it from ftc.gov/credit. You may order reports from each of the three consumer reporting companies at the same time, or you can stagger your requests, ordering one from each company throughout the year from the central address. Dont contact the three nationwide consumer reporting companies individually or at another address because you may end up paying for a report that youre entitled to get for free. In fact, each consumer reporting company may charge you up to $10.50 to purchase an additional copy of your report within a 12-month period.


It doesnt cost anything to dispute mistakes or outdated items on your credit report. Under the FCRA, both the consumer reporting company and the information provider (that is, the person, company, or organization that provides information about you to a consumer reporting company) are responsible for correcting inaccurate or incomplete information in your report. To take advantage of all your rights under the FCRA, contact the consumer reporting company and the information provider.


The Credit Repair Organizations Act


Credit repair organizations must give you a copy of the Consumer Credit File Rights Under State and Federal Law before you sign a contract. They also must give you a written contract that spells out your rights and obligations. Read these documents before you sign anything. And before signing, know that a credit repair company cannot:


make false claims about their services
charge you until they have completed the promised services
perform any services until they have your signature on a written contract and have completed a three-day waiting period. During this time, you can cancel the contract without paying any fees.
Before you sign a contract, be sure it specifies:


the payment terms for services, including the total cost
a detailed description of the services the company will perform
how long it will take to achieve the result
any guarantees the company offer
the companys name and business address
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#44 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Corporate Frauds Watch - Verizon gone too

AUTHOR: fhtmclassaction - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 05, 2011
Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing loses Verizon Wireless from product offering

http://www.articlemonster.com/busine...-offering.html

So many questions and not enough answers. In a world fighting for customers and companies watching over their reputations like a hawk, what do these companies all have in common? I am referring to major Fortune 100 icons like General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T as well as some smaller ones like Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall.

The answer is simple, somehow over the past 10 years and probably unbeknownst to them, they became aligned with a Multi-Level Marketing company known as Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM). This was mainly accomplished because Fortune Hi-Tech does business with some of their authorized dealers and 3rd party affiliates. Fortunes attempt to prove its legal by association has backfired,
as it normally does. It is very difficult to build your reputation at the expense of someone bigger, when they have no idea who you are.

Should these companies have a say in who gets to use their brand in the pursuit of the almighty dollar? For the first time in FHTMs history the number of companies represented by it on the menu board at fhtm.net is shrinking. How can that be good?

According to court documents and a major USA Today expose, last September, none of these companies had direct relationships with FHTM.

In March 2010, Monica Lindeen, the Securities Commissioner for the State of Montana, issued a cease and desist against Fortune HI-Tech Marketing for operating an illegal endless recruiting pyramid scheme. Since then Texas has demanded documents in an investigation, South Carolina AG Roy Cooper, has opened an investigation into Fortunes business practices, as part of the FTCs
Operation Empty Promises, and its own home state of Kentucky has done the same.

Two blistering heart pounding class-action lawsuits have pummeled FHTM in 2010 as well. The first was filed in Federal Court in Kentucky in September 2010 and the other in Federal Court in Southern California two days before Christmas last year too. Neither of these lawsuits have been certified as a class yet, and mainly due to some extensive manipulation of the legal system by the Fortune legal team.

What is the cost of that battle? Some estimate legal costs upwards of $500K monthly. That certainly will take a huge chunk out of any business cash flow. Fortune is not the first MLM or pyramid scheme to be involved in major lawsuits. Amway just agreed to pay a record settlement of close to $150 Million. Most top law firms and executives know they cant win these types of suits, and mainstream media leaves a negative impact on their business.

Attorneys have very little defense to RICO and pyramid scheme allegations, and after spending millions trying to defend the allegations, usually make arrangements for settlement conferences. They may win some of the small battles but not the war. What is the depth of the scars these lawsuits leave to deter others to join?

So the important question now remains, why did these huge conglomerates allow their names and reputations to potentially be smeared by a company like FHTM? The answer is simple - they didnt know what was happening. 

According to ex-representative, Joseph Isaacs from Tampa, Florida, When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its legitimacy they will issue a cease or desist, insist on the actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products. Which others will walk when they find out the real business model and litigation history of Fortune Hi-Tech?

As of March 2011 every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist or no longer allows itself to be aligned with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing. How has this affected their aura of legitimacy? How do they explain all of this to new and even existing independent representatives?

In reviewing some FHTM business presentations on YouTube, it was apparent that the logos of GE, DuPont, Verizon and AT&T were there for one reason. What are the repercussions of only being legal by association? According to Joseph Isaacs, Top leaders would tell prospects during the business presentation that they must be legal because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam. All of these major companies sent their CEOs and legal teams to meet
with founder Paul Orberson to evaluate FHTM and check out their books. This cannot be so and was nothing more than a lie used to recruit, he added. What rhetoric do these leaders use today to explain the loss of such major brands? Only time will tell.

Will FHTM leaders and owners blame the latest Verizon fiasco on the reps like they did in their announcement pertaining to DuPont only a few weeks ago? How long will this saga continue? Which other company will research the true business model of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and un-align themselves next? It is too early to tell but this story is far from over.

If the massacre continues then Fortune will be nothing more than a vitamin and dog food MLM. That is not very hi-tech and not too many fortunes will be made by affiliation. How much representative revenue has been lost as a result of these major companies walking away? How many current representatives are scrambling to replace so many customer points? How many Regional and Executive managers wont get bonuses because their team points are greatly depleted because of the latest loss? We searched high and low for the answers but didnt find any.
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#43 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What is an Assistant to the AG? (Is this a clerk or secretary)

AUTHOR: fhtmclassaction - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, March 19, 2011
FHTM relieves Judy Hammerschmidt of her General Counsel duties!

What a shocker. As of February 2011 Ms. Hammerschmidt is no longer listed as the FHTM General Counsel, or an  attorney associated with FHTM, on their website www.fhtm.net .

According to the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing website, Ms. Hammerschmidt has been replaced by attorney the new General Counsel Mr. Keith Kuder.

“In February of 2011, FHTM welcomed its new General Counsel, Keith U. Kuder. Keith brings a wealth of knowledge and experience obtained during an 18-year career as a judicial clerk, law firm litigator and in-house attorney. In 1990, Keith graduated from the University of Virginia, Phi Beta Kappa. He completed the University of Virginia School of Law, Order of the Coif, in 1993. Today, Keith heads up FHTM's continuing efforts to remain a world-class organization”, quotes Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.

Why did this happen? Maybe it is because all of the lawsuits and AG investigations under her loyal watch became overwhelming. Who really knows the truth?
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#42 Consumer Comment

FHTM is caught in a massive LIE

AUTHOR: FHTM - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, September 26, 2010
Let me clear the air on one of the most widely used LIES that FHTm has been telling people for years. "FHTM DOES NOT HAVE ANY RELATIONSHIPS with any Fortune 100 companies" AT&T, Verizon, Dish, etc have NOT approved fortune and they do not have contracts with these companies. When the cellular carriers were contacted, they said they never heard or FHTM.....Isnt that a bit strange?

Here is the 2nd biggest FHTM lie - "We are, have always been and will always be DEBT FREE"......SO UNTRUE   for a copy of the debt go to www.fhtmclassaction.info

Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing Hit with National Class Action

September 18, 2010. By Brenda Craig

Louisville, KY: A giant pyramid scheme that has been masquerading as a marketing company appears to be starting to crumble. The only fortune the company created went mostly to the companys father figure, Paul Orbison, and a short list of his confederates.

Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing Hit with National Class Action. Although Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing purports to sell everything from hair care products to cell phones, the real sales job was done on potential recruits to the organization.

The law against pyramid schemes is clear, says R. Kenyon Meyer, an attorney who works with the well-known firm of Dinsmore and Shohl in Louisville, Kentucky. Meyer represents four former Fortune sales representatives in a national class action alleging they were victims of Orbisons operation.

According to the suit, sales representatives were charged $299 for the privilege of joining the Fortune team. Then they were pressured into buying a never-ending stream of services and equipment in order to do the job, says Meyer, who has been researching the company for several months now.

Fortune requires sales representatives to get frequent customer points. Those points are obtained not by selling something, but by signing up for something in order to do your job as a representative!

Just because Fortune maintained a list of products for sale doesnt mean it isnt a pyramid scheme, warns Meyer. Every pyramid scheme has some product that it purports to promote. The focus on recruitment overrides the focus on the sale of a product to the ultimate consumer meaning somebody not involved in the pyramid.

Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing was recently routed in a Montana state class action where regulators successfully litigated against the company for operating a pyramid scheme.


Orbison, who lives and operates Fortune from Lexington, Kentucky, tells recruits he was able to retire after he made a million dollars month with another multi-level marketing company. He started Fortune in order to give back and allow others an opportunity to get rich.

Meyers clients, however, would prefer that Fortune simply give back the money they were duped into pouring into a pyramid scheme. According to the research done by Dinsmore and Shohl, the majority of sales reps actually made less than $90 dollars a month before expenses.

There may be thousands of potential class members across the US and even in Canada and Britain, but Fortune is unclear about how many sales representatives it actually has on the books. They have made some vague representations from time to time, like we have had tens of thousands of representatives join in the last couple of months, says Meyer. But there have been no official numbers released.

The class has yet to be certified. Meyer believes it will happen soon. I am really looking forward to the discovery phase, he says.


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#41 Consumer Comment

Class Action RICO lawsuit against FHTM and all NSM's

AUTHOR: FHTM - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, September 10, 2010


A class action lawsuit was filed against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM), its officers, directors, Presidential Ambassadors and all National Sales Managers claiming fraud, pyramid scheme and RICO violations in the Eastern District of the Federal Courts on September 2, 2010



 



Defendants listed in the lawsuit include:



Paul C. Orberson, Jeff Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, David Mills, Billy Stahl, Simon Davies, Ruel Morton, Todd Rowland, Ashley Rowland, Todd & Ashley, Inc., Mike Misenheimer, Steve Jordan, Joel McNinch, Chris Doyle, Ken Brown, Jerry Brown, Bob Decant, Joanne McMahon, Terry Walker, Sandi Walker, Sherri Winter, Trey Knight, Kevin Mullins, Scott Aguilar, Molly Aguilar, Nathan Kirby, Dwayne Brown, Aaron Decker, Susan Frank, Ramiro Armenta, Angelina Armenta, Alexis Adame, Teresa Adame, Darla DiGrandi, Matt Morse, Matt Barrett and Roberto Rivera.

This is an action by plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and those similarly situated to recover damages caused by the defendants' operation of an inherently fraudulent pyramid scheme. The pyramid scheme is fraudulent because it requires the payment by participants of money to defendant Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Inc. ("Fortune"), in return for which participants receive (1) the right to sell products and (2) the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into the program rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users.




This action is brought on behalf of a national class of persons who serve or have served as independent representatives for Fortune, pursuant to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 18 U.S.C. 1961-1968 ("RICO"), the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act, KRS Chapter 367, and the laws of Kentucky.




Under the Compensation Plan utilized by Fortune until at least July 1, 2010, IRs are able to earn compensation from two sources: (1) bonuses for recruiting and sponsoring new representatives; and (2) commissions from sales of products and services by themselves and by recruits in their "downline.




Fortune operates as an illegal pyramid scheme because this compensation plan affords IRs the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into Fortune rewards which are unrelated to the sale of products or services to ultimate users outside of Fortune. Fortune's compensation plan involves an elaborate set of bonuses which are effectively the only way to earn money in Fortune and which are all tied not to real sales to outside customers, but rather to recruitment of new IRs.




To perpetuate the fraudulent pyramid scheme described above, Fortune claims to have special relationships with or to be a "partner" of several large major national companies whose products and services Fortune offers. These companies include, but are not limited to, AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, Dish Networks, General Electric Security ("GE Security"), DuPont and Home Depot. Fortune has used the trademarks of these and other companies in marketing materials and business presentations in order to convince prospective customers that Fortune is a legal business. In reality, Fortune does not have any sort of special relationship with these companies. Fortune is not a "partner" with Dish Networks. Rather it is a third-party independent contractor authorized to sell Dish Networks service. There are numerous other such third-party vendors of Dish Network.

All of the defendants in this action collectively form an "enterprise" under RICO, 18 U.S.C. 1962, in that they are a group of individuals and entities associated in fact, although not a legal entity.




The defendants' promotion of an illegal pyramid scheme is a per se scheme to defraud under the mail and wire fraud statutes; thus, the defendants have committed racketeering acts by promoting an illegal pyramid scheme by using and causing others to use the mail and by transmitting and causing others to transmit, by means of wire in interstate commerce, writing, signs, signals, pictures and sounds, all in furtherance of and for purposes of executing a scheme or artifice to defraud, namely an illegal pyramid scheme.



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#40 Consumer Comment

Did you feel

AUTHOR: two sides - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 28, 2010

I see where you are seeing the picture here. I am of the belief that they have illuded to having a relationships with all of these companies and have even told stories about having attorneys from GE and DISH fly out and look at their books. If this is your understanding of this then please let me know.

If they have a relationship with FORTUNE INC and sell their magazines and have permsssion to use their name to promote FORTUNE FEST < FORTUNE WIRELESS and FORTUNE TV, they why do you think their attorneys have not shut them down yet?

I see where they are suing a rep for using the name FORTUNE in a URL, but this guy looks like he has won on several actions against FHTM.

I need to hear from you if you thought that this company had contracts with these companies and if they did have a relationship with FORTUNE to be able to use their name. I would love to see if anyone has any videos staeting these facts.

I noticed on you tube that many of the videos approved by Fortune have been taken down.

Please email me at (((Redacted)))

 

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
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#39 UPDATE Employee

Do Real Research and Get the true Facts!

AUTHOR: busowner - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, June 10, 2010
I honestly don't know where to start. There is so much misinformation in this thread so I will do my best to address it all.
1. The sign up fee has been $299 from inception until May 22, 2010. On that date, it was reduced to $199. The company is doing so well, Paul is having to find new ways to pay the reps.
2. For every new rep that comes into the business, NO money is paid out until three customers are gathered, this goes up to five starting July 1, 2010. The majority must be outside of the household.
3. The company pays out a minimum of $490 and a maximum of $740 per person (that starts their own business and gathers 3 customers) in bonus money alone. If the $199 was paying for those bonuses FHTM would have been out of business a long time ago and not expanding exponentially.
4. There have been 5 increases in the pay plan in the last 7 months including a paid vacation 3 times a year for those that work the business and qualify.
5. FHTM's legal team consists of THREE attorney generals. Two of them, Robert Stephan and Chris Gorman have just joined the team. These are people that investigate companies like this to make sure they are doing business legally.
6. They also reduced their Trainer Coach training fee to $199. This fee is to properly train those who want to train new members.
7. FHTM reps make money from advertising budgets of the companies we market for. They pay NOTHING up front for us to advertise word of mouth for them and only pay when we give them a customer. That is smart business!
8. Charging a fee for training is not a pyramid. Where can you get private instruction for free? This is just ignorance talking.
9. A pyramid is a regular corporate structure. An illegal pyramid sells no product and makes money solely on recruiting fees. If FHTM used only recruiting fees to pay reps then they would be bankrupt and not making more every day.
10. Excel is bankrupt now for two reasons, Kenny Trout sold it to a corporation that turned it public, and they sold long distance phone service. A service that is mostly obsolete. Excel also didn't pay back 90% of the income back to reps either. His reps made him a very rich man.
11. The good thing about FHTM is that anyone can join. The bad thing about fortune is that anyone can join. There is no IQ test or education requirement. All you need is a social security number. I can tell you that I have been in fortune long enough to know that only smart, educated people do well in fortune. They understand the business, can properly train people and know how to be successful.

Larry Hillsboro, by the look of his letter, is one of those high school drop outs that is too stupid to understand how the business works. After all, he didn't even know where the money comes from! Even the most ignorant person can figure out how to use spell check! I am amazed that he knew how to turn his computer on let alone use the internet to spread his ignorance. Larry, it is people like you that make fortune look bad!
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#38 UPDATE Employee

To Each His Own

AUTHOR: The Kit - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, April 29, 2010
Just a couple things to note, not just with FHTM, but with any company in general, especially an MLNM.

1. When you are letting individual people sell, promote, discuss, and enroll others into your company, you will always be at the mercy of their words. For all of the individuals highlighting that it's a scheme or scam, etc, you cannot blame Fortune, OR any other company that works with Representatives. ALL COMPANIES WILL HAVE REPS THAT WILL BE DISHONEST, CHEAT, OR FABRICATE THINGS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. So, please, be smart enough to distinguish what "the company" says, versus what your over ambitious friend told you. Do your research!

2. In MLNM, everyone knows you get out of it what you put into it. Most people quit, because there is actual work involved. Go figure! If you are going to make any of the money these companies are talking about, you should have to put work in.

3. Fortune Hi Tech Marketing is a LEGAL company. Just because they had issues in one state, does not discredit the entire company. If these are the same standards we are working on, then please, let's put every other business out of business. We see lawsuits go up daily for the largest fortune 500 hundred companies, but we still buy and shop and get our goods from them. Shell pays fines out the rear from illegal dumping, but we all don't just stop buying their gas now do we? Legal companies at times make bad decisions. In this case, I don't believe Fortune misled the people, I'm sure there were some bad reps in the mix that killed it for the many.

4. There are thousands of individuals out there doing Fortune and making money. So, if people are making money, legally and signing up more people to do the same thing, it can't just be a scam. Some people argue that a majority of the money is made off of signing individuals up, which isn't true. Sign up fees are a one time ordeal, but bills are residual and go on, well, for the most part forever. Even if you don't sign that many people up, you're still getting percentages on bills that you have and whoever else signs up after you. Now something is better than nothing if you ask me. If anything, sign up your three people, come in qualified to get paid, sign up some bills and make a little income off of what you are already paying. This is a small amount of money in the grand scheme of things. $299 one time sign up fee. With your bills and residual over time, all that will come full circle, so you can really be at a loss.


Also, to all these people claiming to have put thousands of dollars into Fortune, you must all be crazy! Where are you putting it? Someone claimed to have lost their home with this company? How can you loose your house over $300 bucks?

Remember, there is always someone in EVERY COMPANY SCAMMING YOU OR TRYING TO, INCLUDING YOUR BANK! LOL. That's not a joke really, it's quite true. Unfortunately, as long as bad people in the world exist, there will be people that get into business that practice poor business standards. But we cannot let that discourage everyone from trying to improve their lives.

I am a current FHTM Rep and I am working on my vision. I am proud to say it, and I have met many of the top earners in the company personally, some which are actually in my upline. I'm sorry for which ever poor reps spoiled it for those individuals in Montana, as is that is NOT the case over here. Good luck to all of those looking at the company and thank you to all the FHTM reps that stand behind this company to see it continue to grow and flourish.
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#37 Consumer Comment

FHTM Financial Statements are where?

AUTHOR: TexasJack - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, April 17, 2010
Networker,
Where are you getting information that FHTM 2009 revenues were "approaching $700 million dollars".  Have you ever seen FHTM financial statements?  If yes, please provide a link.  I do not think FHTM financial statements have been made public.

I would also be interested in the source for the almost 20,000 new reps in January and February 2010 that you mentioned.  At that pace, FHTM must certainly have 200,000 reps by now wouldn't you think?

The Quick Start Bonus of $100 to various levels is paid from the initial $299 signup fee of the reps.  I do not believe this is a big moneymaker for FHTM since most are paid out as soon as their paid in.  See Page 8 of the FHTM Policies and Procedures manual.

I believe FHTM makes money off of its reps' purchases of everything including the website, TelTag, Towing insurance, True Essential vitamins, renewal fees, Trainer fees as well as writing commission checks.

If 200,000 reps are buying the website ($25) and TelTag ($20) each month as part of the 10 "customer points" (or things they have to buy), then FHTM is making gross revenues off their reps of $108 million per year.  (200,000 X $45 X 12).  And FHTM touts that they pay their reps 5 times a month, but they charge the rep $6 for each check or $5 for a direct deposit.   If only 100,000 reps are paid by check each month, the gross revenue to FHTM is $36 million per year.  (100,000 X $6 X 5 per month X 12months).

And when all these reps are buying their 10 things each month, none of them know how much FHTM is receiving as a "commission".  And when disillusioned reps quit the business, FHTM continues to receive the same commission for those products that the rep keeps buying.....like internet, cell phone or dish network.  But FHTM no longer pays the .25% "residual" to the rep.

Serious participants in FHTM should ask to see the company's financial statements.  And if they won't show them, it's because they don't want the public to know how they are making money. 
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#36 General Comment

Just wondering...

AUTHOR: Greg - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 14, 2010
I'm actually interested in FHTM, but the replies to the original post from FHTM reps have been vague at best. They all say "FHTM rocks", "FHTM is the greatest", "I love FHTM", "I just started with FHTM and I just KNOW I'll do great", and stuff like that. I'd like to see some figures people. FHTM may rock, but how much money are they putting in your pocket every month? And how much time/effort/stress is required to make that money? I have a good job, but it still just pays the bills. I want more and better. So, FHTM reps.....recruit me. Show me it's legit, ETHICAL, product-driven and not recruiting-driven (I don't want another business where I have to beg and beg people to sign up) and can make me some real money without driving me insane in the process, and I'll really consider this. I eagerly await your reply......
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#35 Consumer Comment

90% from sign-up fees ?????

AUTHOR: Networker - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 13, 2010

Dude - help me out here. Where did you get this information that 90% of the money comes form sign-up fees? Here's a little factual information to chew on.

FHTM had revenues last year approaching $700 million dollars. Let's say it came in equally each month, and for reasonableness (is that a word?) sake, let's say my information is off and FHTM only had revenues of $600 million last year.

In January of this year, 2010, FHTM had approximately 9000 new reps join the business. In February of this year approx. 12,000 new reps joined the business. So for 2010, in the first two months FHTM averaged approx. 10,500 new reps per month who each paid $299 to start their business.

Last year FHTM did not average 10,500 new reps per month - but for numbers sake follow me here..... let's say they did.  

10,500 new reps  x 12 months  x $299 new rep fee  =  $37,674,000

I went to college. In my math class $37 million is NOT 90% of $600 million.

It's 6% - you may want to do your homework before calling people liars.

 

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#34 UPDATE Employee

You have to work to make Money

AUTHOR: Judy S - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 13, 2010

I am a manager at Fortune Hi-Tech and have found it to be very reputable.  It has a 3 A - 1 Dunn and Bradstreet rating and is debt free.   You do have to put out some effort to make money by recuiting team members.  It is not a government give-a-way.  Do not let the negative feedback influence your decision to join Fortune.  It is the best business opportunity I have ever seen.

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#33 UPDATE EX-employee responds

LIARS - LIARS - LIARS

AUTHOR: FHTM - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, April 10, 2010
what you all neglect to see is that 90% or more of the money earned in Fortune is from RECRUITING and not product sales, in spite of Paul attempting to re-org that portion after the Montana Securities Commission shut them down on March 4, 2010 (and still shut down - over a month later). North Dakota also ordered them to give refunds to any reps there that felt they were ripped off.
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#32 UPDATE Employee

Hold on Montana!

AUTHOR: Michael - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 30, 2010

First it is NOT true that the price of FHTM is going to raise from $299... (although it is less expensive in some states) this rumor is just a myth! Well it is true that at this moment FHTM is working hard to address the complaints of the Montana ... however they have had amazing success in addressing any and every problem with every state that has issues. There are several state attorney generals that have endorsed Fortune Hi-Tech as a legitimate company. Expect this to be resolved any day.

As I understand it the reason for many of the issues in Montana is overly excited reps who have misrepresented FHTM. Some will say it is a get rich quick vehicle ... it is not. Others have said the $299 pays for your license to sell for these companies while in reality it just pays for you to start your business. Others in Montana have said that if they join the sponsors will do all the work for them... and you know that is never true. If folks think you make money by signing up people that is not at all true because all income is based on product sales!

I joined this company to build my retirement www.YourTicketToRiches.com The reality is that this is a great company that will pay you if you just do some work. You can even make money if you just sell products. Every product you sell will bring you personally at least 2% income. (Which is pennies!) You can't expect to make a huge income if you just sell cell phones, DISH TV, Internet, Home phone, VOIP, Road Side Assistance, Supplementary Health insurance, Identity Thief Protection, Vitamins and all the other dozens of products they sell. Of course no one gets paid anything unless you buy (or sell) a few products. A new rep with no purchases or sales is worth nothing to anyone on the team! Thus this is not an illegal pyramid no matter how Montana reps have presented it. You do not get paid to sign up people you get paid to bring on people who in turn bring customers to the table. Not unlike Amway, Avon or any of the other thousands of network marketing companies this is a way of selling products through word of mouth marketing!

I personally have had the opportunity to speak to a lot of people who have more time than money people like stay at home moms who would love some extra money! www.YourJourneyToRiches.com

I will admit when I first started reading these "complaints" I was certainly scared about FHTM and I was running from this company but then I did do my research. I am not a lawyer but I am no dummy I am a student and I know how to do exhaustive research. And I did exactly that.

After extensive research about this company I discover that not one penny is paid out unless there is minimum purchase made. This company bills itself as an alternative distribution model and it is contracted with many established multi-billion dollar companies. Companies that would never associate themselves with an illegal company. You and I both know that AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, Nextel would have a relationship with an illegal company. If you realize that Fortune is the only network marketing company that has an exclusive relationship with DISH TV and that is a six year relationship... why would they put the legal legitimacy of their company at risk if FHTM was illegal.

There is even one part of FHTM that is connected to an online mall. www.AllIOwn.com In this mall you can shop at stores and restaurants that you always shop at then earn money back the money you earn can be used to buy more on the mall if you get enough it can be put on to a bank card and then spent anywhere that accepts MasterCard but perhaps the best thing you can do with the money you earn is you can use it to support any public school or church or any non profit charity! WOW

It turns out that most complaints are made by people who sign up with Fortune and don't work it and get mad that they didn't get paid back or because it was not a get rich quick scheme! It is NetWORK Marketing so you gotta work! It is true that to make any decent income you will need to get business partners to work it with you so if you want dramatic income you should sign people up for this business! If you want however you can just sell products and earn a percentage of everyones bills. But that would be hard! You only get paid 2% of your own personal bills (which is pennies) and 1/4% from people that sign under you (which is less) and an impressive 5% on your eighth level (which may be a couple of bucks)... So of course these pennies only add up when you have many people on your team.

Some "guy" was upset because he couldn't get paid for DISH because he already had a contract... of course that makes sense because why would DISH pay FHTM for customers they already got through other sources? Then "he" was upset because his new cell phone contract was $30 more expensive than his last contract! So why would he think of dropping his old contract? Some people just don't think!

I read in "DIRECT SELLING NEWS" and other industry publications and press releases that FHTM is growing like crazy! In fact in February of 2010 more people joined Fortune than any other company in the United States... so it makes sense that some of these "complaints" are from other network marketing companies that are jealous of FHTM's success! www.TheHomeBasedBizSite.com I am sad to say that most complaints I have read in this site are just a bunch of uninformed, non-intelligent, reactive, cry babies! Just use your head and dont over react. This has been the answer to my prayers and I know that it is very legit!

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#31 Consumer Comment

Montana shuts down FHTM for FRAUD!

AUTHOR: FHTM - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, March 17, 2010
Fortune keeps raising their pay plan to force feed the top 7 reps (presidential ambassadors - meaning Paul's buddy's from the old Excel days) I didnt know that the new price to get into the pyramid scam went from $299 at the beginning of March 2010 to $349.00

See recent article from Montana



The State is trying to stop an alleged pyramid scheme from operating here in Montana. The State Auditor has issued a Cease and Desist order against a company that has reportedly taken more than $1.8 million from participating Montanans.



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After many phone calls and complaints over the last few months, Montana Commissioner of Securities and Insurance Monica Lindeen announced that her office has ordered Kentucky-based Fortune Hi Tech Marketing to stop operating in our state.



"What they do is convince people that it's a great money-making venture, Lindeen said. Unfortunately, very few people actually make any money."



Nearly 1,300 Montanans have been recruited to be part of the alleged pyramid scheme. Commissioner Lindeen advises those people to immediately end their involvement with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.
She adds that especially during difficult economic times, more schemes surface and people are more likely to look for alternative ways to generate income.



"They have more scams today than ever, said Helena resident Bud Lee. People have to be wise."



"I think it happens everywhere, so Im not surprised it happened here," said Joey Carter of Helena.



"When you lose your job, you find ways to keep the electricity on. So, I bet more of these things start to crop up," said Raylean Garrison of Helena.



Lindeen adds that members only benefit if they recruit others to join this alleged scam. She says her office is committed to keeping pyramid schemes out of Montana.



"In Montana, we will not tolerate forms of pyramid schemes and we are going to stop it. We don't want to see hard-working Montanans lose their money."



On its website, fortune hi tech marketing says it hopes for a quick resolution to the matter, but asks its montana reps to refrain from doing business in the meantime.
lindeen says she anticipates a hearing against FHTM and hopes that some Montanans can get their money back.



For more information or to make a complaint, she encourages you to call 1-800-332-6148




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#30 General Comment

You made 10k per month, and QUIT!

AUTHOR: eak185 - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, March 02, 2010

You were making $10,000 per month, and quit? What did you make the next month? Sounds kind of strange to me that you'd quit something your making money in.

I have nothing personally against MLM. I was involved with Amway for many years, and made money. However, this program looks a little suspect because the distributors make money from recruiting. I have always been told, by supposedly people in the know, that if that were the case, it's not legal. However, the government's not coming into these things and shutting them down immediately, because until they get so large, they are "under the radar" so to speak.

For those making money, congratulations. But I'd be banking most of it, because I have a feeling that a year, or 2, or 3, it's going down. I feel kind of sorry for the folks who get in at the end.

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#29 General Comment

Fortune is Astounding

AUTHOR: Michael - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 15, 2010

I laugh when I read these silly "reports" ... poor Larry.  I see he got pounced on by people like me who realize how FHTM is head and shoulders above the rest.

 

This report incorrectly reported the cost to join Fortune.  And of course as others have pointed out you can not get paid anything unless you have purchased at least three products and even then you can't be paid when a new rep signs up until they buy at least three products.  Then to be eligable for the first levels of payment you must have ten customer points.  When you make the third level of this four level company you must have at least 15 sales or purchases and recently (Feb 2010) you are eligable to more money if you have 20 sales or purchases.  That alone defeats the pyramid plan!

 

I am aware that some of the early reps did get in for less... because they were part of Excell or successful network marketers.  That was to get the company off the ground... however that is just called good business!

 

It is true that 95% of all network reps quit in the first year (if not the first week or month) but that has little to do with the companies and more to do with human nature. I know too many average people that have done well in Fortune.  I am not doing well but the extra $2,000 I make every month has literally saved my life over the past two years!

 

I saw another posting about FHTM where the reporter was complaining how when a rep "breaks away" you are forced to "replace" them!  Well that is true about most if not all network marketing companies... FHTM still pays after the first break away and after the second break away!  Indeed all the money i earn each month is from my break aways!!!

 

Fortune ROCKS and at this point I would be a fool to even consider quiting this compnay!

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#28 General Comment

LOL $50 dollar difference?

AUTHOR: Fred - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 10, 2010
Ok so the cost to join is $299 not $349.  As if that even matters that much. The fact is I have a couple of friends involved in this and they are not making any money and they do this constantly and have tried to convince us all to buy the products on their site. Problem is they offer nothing we are interested in buying or that we can't find for cheaper. So again, anybody involved in this is getting scammed and will pull out after they realize they will NOT be making anymore than a McDonald's worker and that's actually over shooting because you would make more working part time at Micky D's. 

Fortune reps are the most defensive brainwashed people on the planet. Wow. Just look at them trying to justify themselves on every complaint board about FHTM.
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#27 Consumer Comment

After sitting in on a pitch

AUTHOR: NativeAtlantaGirl - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, February 08, 2010
I had the 'opportunity' to sit in on one of these presentations as a guest of my mother's friend. She wanted my 'input' because I am in Marketing - with 20 years of experience in both B2B and B2C sectors. 

There is nothing 'high'-tech about the operation. Unless you consider the stuff people are smoking who are promoting this. The amount of unrealistic expectations that they shove down people's throats would be considered comical if they weren't taking advantage of people in a down economy. 


Multi-Level Marketing. Like it or not. People are making money off of 'fees' one is paying to get involved. The harder you as an underling work, the more money other people are making. The people posting replies have clearly drunk the Kool-Aid. I encourage anyone investigating this company to do some actual research and look for OBJECTIVE opinions. 



The reality is, most people do not have the skills/time/resources to put into into it. The structure of the plans are clearly hype. The whole thing is hype. (Yes, I admit I am far from a proponent of these sort of programs - if you have to "sell" something so hard, you don't have something that is able to be presented on its own merits. Any of their online 'breakdown' of how it works includes all fluff and no substance.)
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#26 UPDATE Employee

$299... Proof

AUTHOR: Rex - (United States of America)

POSTED: Thursday, January 21, 2010
As a representative of FHTM I like to follow some of the reports.  Not sure why, most are untrue.  You state the cost to join was $349.  Simply untrue.  Here is a link to the enrollment form updated from the company October of 2009.  http://www.fhtmuniversity.com/documents/USIRapp10.09.pdf  


Under section #3 you can easily see the enrollment fee of $299.  Please update your report to the correct amount.  This form is used nationwide for all states and all representatives.  Please feel free to email me with any questions, my email is on my website at http://www.makemoneysensibly.com/  Thank you for your interest in this company.
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#25 Consumer Comment

Lazy People

AUTHOR: Jeanne - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 11, 2009
The people that are complaining are LAZY. This is not a get rich quick "thing". You do have to put time and effort into it. But don't you do that on your JOBS! and how's that going for you??? My husband and I joined FHTM (not FHTA) 4 years ago and the cost was $299.00. Quit complaining and live your dull little lives. We in FHTM will enjoy ours
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#24 UPDATE EX-employee responds

FHTA IS UNETHICAL MARKETING SCHEME

AUTHOR: Consadvocat - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 18, 2009
I love when people say.. " Would ATT, GE, Big Corp company, etc etc be involved in something illegal??" - my response is watch enron.. and yes they would
But thats a completely other issue.

OF course any of these companies would not trie to tie/afflilate with illegalities. However, they also will allow ANYBODY to sell their products. Go to magazine.com (for example)..scroll down Click Afflilates and you too can sell their product.. they don't run background checks or anything, because they don't care! Sell Sell Sell

This is a horrible unethical system.. its like who can you sign up to pay $300 bucks, FHTM will split referal money WITH YOU! and these people are required to sign up for at least one of these "money saving" products "we all use" and you get paid on it.

Guess what, every big network.. Corporation you work for example will give you a discount off of a Cell Phone bill.. which a 20% discount off a bill is better than 20% commision.. for the simple fact you don't get taxed on the discount.

Again.. any company that asks YOU for money is ridiculous, you aren't investing in this business..the literature kit is like $10 worth of materials.

Secondly, no good idea gathers the masses (literally anyone with $300 bucks that can expand their network to these select companies).

Feed sheep to the DVDS feed them and you will make money, but in a very dishonest, unethical, and non sustainable manner. Not one person has shown me a check worth bragging about over "residuals" they literally had .5 of a percent residual off of your referals bills.

Stay away from this company, they have a huge network that tries to recoup their $300 cost by getting 3 more suckers.. its a nasty domino effect.
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#23 UPDATE Employee

A little mixed up

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, June 11, 2009
First of all, these people can't even spell. We can expect that, just maybe, they might have their facts a little mixed up.
I am a rep with Fortune, I have been with Fortune for three years. This takes a little work, that is all and the fact is, some people aren't willing to do that but, they expect everything to just happen.
This company is very real, you just want to check out the facts, not somebody who is upset because they never made it at anything. This company truely gives you back what you put into it and a lot of the time, even more.
The cost to be a rep in Fortune has been $299 ever since I've been in so, I have no idea what these people are talking about. Fortune has partnered with some of the biggest companies in the world and continues to partner with more. I don't see how it will become bankrupt anytime soon. Paul also vows never to go public with this company, that is what went wrong with Excel and Paul was a victim of that like many other reps in Excel.
I would suggest for these folks to sit down with Paul himself, I have. Sit down with all of your empty accusations and get some facts.


Thank you,
Mark (Cincinnati)
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#22 Consumer Suggestion

So close!!!

AUTHOR: Josh - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, December 19, 2008
I do not beleive fhtm is illegal. there probably are people who make a killing. but unless you have a lot of dumb, rich friends who also have a lot of dumb, rich friends, stay away.

a couple years ago, while i was at work at a home improvement store (rhymes with shmlowes), me and a friend were approached by a co-worker. he had the opportunity of a life time for us. he gave us a phone number to call. red flag #1. the phone call was pre-recorded and was very vague, something along the lines of

"how would you like to make money and be your own boss? how would you like to get paid for the products you alredy use?"

that sort of thing. but it never said what the job entails. red flag #2. i told the coworker who approached me that i was hesitant but interested. all he said was "its great." he then took my number down and gave it to the regional manager, or whatever the title was. it escapes me.

late that night i recieved a phone call from this guy. he sounded very excited about the job. he said it is a great way to earn a lot of money, and very quick. i asked him what i would be doing. he said "its great." but never really telling me what it was. he basically just repeated the pre-recorded phone call to me. red flag #3.

i was hurting for money though and i was looking for a way to get out of shmlowes. so i went ahead and set up a meeting with my co-worker and the regional manager at a coffee shop (rhymes with shmar-shmucks). this is where things were laid out for me a BIT more clearly.

they both took turns preaching about how wonderful the company was. i was explained that i would get my own website where people can buy things (which is what makes this legal). ranging from colognes to satellite tv. when people buy from my site, i get residuals. if i am using a one of those products already, i pay the bill through my website and i am reimbursed a certain percentage.

i was told once (if i remember correctly) i sign up 12(?) people to join, i am promoted to regional manager (red flag #4) and thats when i start making all the money. my co-worker told me that he had to recruit 2 more people (which he saw in me and my friend) then he could quit from shmlowes and then live in luxury from all the money he was making.

then they laid the $300 start up fee on me. i was kind of sticker shocked, but still interested. the manager asked me if i have friends who want to make money. and if i did, i am all set. he said what i need to do is give them a call and tell them i have a way for them to make money. he told me to not tell them what it is. and if they do ask me, just say "its great." and i need to talk with a smile on face. even if it is on the phone. if i smile, i sound excited. then they will get excited. and with that excitement they will come see what i have to say. HUGE RED FLAG.

the guy told me his trick to get me to meet with him. right there i felt like i was dooped. but i didnt want to insult them by telling them no right then and there. so i told them i would find a way to get the money and i will get back with them.

within the next few days, my co-worker started bugging me about the money. i told him i didnt have the $300. he said thats too bad. he said he had 2 people that he was gonna get to sign up and he was going to "give them" to me. basically saying i was already earning back $200 (since its $100 a head you get to join). but since i didnt have the money, oh well.

after much thought and discussion with my friend, we both decided the job was way too good to be true and we backed out. 2 years later, that guy still works at shmlowes. he has not quit. he is not rolling. he is stuck. he may have made a couple hundred clams off some naive people, but he has nothing to show for it.

and basically, what fhtm is, is for immoral people. who would you go to in order to sign people up fr this business? strangers? no. the first people you would go to are your friends and families. every person you sign up, you get money for. if you can look at your loved ones as a dollar sign, then go ahead and do it.

and also. the regional manager. the guy who was supposively "rolling." he was a regular customer a Shmlowes. his vehicle of choice is a white box truck. neither of the doors on the box truck work so he has to get out through the back door. that doesnt seem like someone who has so much money he doesnt know how to spend it.
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#21 UPDATE Employee

This is false information

AUTHOR: Craig - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, November 15, 2008
I have three things to say....

#1 - Judged by what you wrote, and how you wrote it, I'm not even sure you're even a U.S. citizen.

#2 - I paid $299 a year ago, and I signed a new rep this week that paid $299, so your dollar figure is a lie.

#3 - I work full time for the USPS and work FHTM part time (5 to 6 hours per week) and it is making my house payment, and a close friend of the family that showed me FHTM is making tens of thousands each month. Based on your comment, I'll put you into the (95%) of people that will always work for someone else.

Good Luck!
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#20 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I was a top-earner with this company

AUTHOR: Old Enough To Know Better - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, November 07, 2008
I am no longer with this company, (went into Real Estate) but while there I made over 10k a month ave. I met the owner, and all the top people. I was top 30.

1. It is LEGAL - gimme a break. If illegal, would have been shut down.

2. It is truly possible to make alot of money, but you will have to put alot of time in.

3. It is not a get rich quick- it takes a while.

4. If you are looking at getting in- good for you. My advice: make sure you are working with someone who makes money. Especially what they say they do. ASK THEM. Then make them open up their back office and prove it. They can and should do this if they are telling you that they will train you. Don't be surprised if you see that they really do make great money with Fortune- I did.
If the numbers aren't there- find someone else to work with- you have this right.
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#19 UPDATE Employee

People that Do not know what they are talking about should keep quiet!

AUTHOR: Rising Star - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, September 11, 2008
I do not know exactly where to start with your statement. First, the sign up fee is $299. From that fee there is over $500 in bonus money paid out to the up-line people. So this is not where Fortune makes it' s money.

2nd, does the word slander and liable mean anything to you? You might want to look up those words and call someone with legal aid. Why? Because I am going to forward a link to your post to Fortune. You say that what they are doing is illegal.
I guess the attorney general that was investigating Fortune in his state that signed up while running for govenor is in big trouble. Maybe he wanted to blow his chances to win when the voters of his state found out he is a rep with FHTM. I think that he investigated and saw the potential of the income that can be earned and he wanted to take part. Have you heard of the BBB. Ask them what they show on FHTM. Have you heard of Forbes? They did a feature on this company and on the owner Paul Orberson. FHTM is one of the fastest growing companies in the US at this time.

Have you ever heard of the FCC. There are some strict federal regulations regarding the marketing, and operation of a business that is partnered with companies like Dish Network, AT&T, Sprint, Horizon, and most of the other major phone companies.

Excel is gone because they only marketed one service. That was long distance. With the expansion of cell phones, and unlimited long distance service plans this company was doomed to fail. It started going down hill when it was sold and the emphasis changed to the bottom line over paying the reps.

As for the change in payments. Yes, this is the first company I have been with where the bonus programs have almost doubled in what they are paying to the reps since they first started.
People who want to know the truth about what Fortune is...call (646) 222-0243 and listen to this recorded message. If you want more facts call me @ (615) 584-8006
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#18 Consumer Comment

What?

AUTHOR: Jrc - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, April 20, 2008
Larry, how could you have made thousands of dollars in Fortune and be so far off base about how it works? I am a fortune rep and this posting makes no sense to me whatsoever. Paul Orberson had nothing to do with Excell going bankrupt. The only thing he is guilty of is making the company worth as much as it was because of his hard work. Did you not notice all of the Fortune 500 companys that we represent? I understand your right to say what you want about fortune because it may not have worked for you. But it is also my right to say how great this company has been for me!
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#17 UPDATE Employee

Interesting Comments

AUTHOR: Aaron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 12, 2008
I don't know Larry's story; all I know is what Larry stated above. He has the company responding directly to him, I hope he was one of the resolved complaints I saw on the BBB's website. In my opinion they worked well to resolve any issues, look it up yourself and be the judge.

This is not Illegal !

In my opinion this company has one of the best compensation plans I have ever seen ! (and I have done and looked at many over the last 10 years)

I just started my business with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and I couldn't be more excited.

Here is the link to the site that you can get when start your own Fortune Hi-Tec Marketing Business http://www.fhtmus.com/8171141

You can see that the products, services, and the business is for real. If the URL gets removed search the web for the companies home page, or another Rep's site.

This is not an ILLEGAL PYRAMID as stated above. If this was illegal the Attorney General would shut it down.

I'm glad to see the support of the company and other Rep's above. Good luck to the other entrepreneurs here.

Last but certainly not least...

Paul,
Thank You for starting such a great Business. I know that you could have easily retired and not done it, but you didn't.

So thanks again,
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#16 UPDATE Employee

Interesting Comments

AUTHOR: Aaron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 12, 2008
I don't know Larry's story; all I know is what Larry stated above. He has the company responding directly to him, I hope he was one of the resolved complaints I saw on the BBB's website. In my opinion they worked well to resolve any issues, look it up yourself and be the judge.

This is not Illegal !

In my opinion this company has one of the best compensation plans I have ever seen ! (and I have done and looked at many over the last 10 years)

I just started my business with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and I couldn't be more excited.

Here is the link to the site that you can get when start your own Fortune Hi-Tec Marketing Business http://www.fhtmus.com/8171141

You can see that the products, services, and the business is for real. If the URL gets removed search the web for the companies home page, or another Rep's site.

This is not an ILLEGAL PYRAMID as stated above. If this was illegal the Attorney General would shut it down.

I'm glad to see the support of the company and other Rep's above. Good luck to the other entrepreneurs here.

Last but certainly not least...

Paul,
Thank You for starting such a great Business. I know that you could have easily retired and not done it, but you didn't.

So thanks again,
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#15 UPDATE Employee

Interesting Comments

AUTHOR: Aaron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 12, 2008
I don't know Larry's story; all I know is what Larry stated above. He has the company responding directly to him, I hope he was one of the resolved complaints I saw on the BBB's website. In my opinion they worked well to resolve any issues, look it up yourself and be the judge.

This is not Illegal !

In my opinion this company has one of the best compensation plans I have ever seen ! (and I have done and looked at many over the last 10 years)

I just started my business with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and I couldn't be more excited.

Here is the link to the site that you can get when start your own Fortune Hi-Tec Marketing Business http://www.fhtmus.com/8171141

You can see that the products, services, and the business is for real. If the URL gets removed search the web for the companies home page, or another Rep's site.

This is not an ILLEGAL PYRAMID as stated above. If this was illegal the Attorney General would shut it down.

I'm glad to see the support of the company and other Rep's above. Good luck to the other entrepreneurs here.

Last but certainly not least...

Paul,
Thank You for starting such a great Business. I know that you could have easily retired and not done it, but you didn't.

So thanks again,
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#14 UPDATE Employee

Interesting Comments

AUTHOR: Aaron - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, April 12, 2008
I don't know Larry's story; all I know is what Larry stated above. He has the company responding directly to him, I hope he was one of the resolved complaints I saw on the BBB's website. In my opinion they worked well to resolve any issues, look it up yourself and be the judge.

This is not Illegal !

In my opinion this company has one of the best compensation plans I have ever seen ! (and I have done and looked at many over the last 10 years)

I just started my business with Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing and I couldn't be more excited.

Here is the link to the site that you can get when start your own Fortune Hi-Tec Marketing Business http://www.fhtmus.com/8171141

You can see that the products, services, and the business is for real. If the URL gets removed search the web for the companies home page, or another Rep's site.

This is not an ILLEGAL PYRAMID as stated above. If this was illegal the Attorney General would shut it down.

I'm glad to see the support of the company and other Rep's above. Good luck to the other entrepreneurs here.

Last but certainly not least...

Paul,
Thank You for starting such a great Business. I know that you could have easily retired and not done it, but you didn't.

So thanks again,
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#13 UPDATE Employee

FHTM Meets ALL 6 Needs of Human Existence!

AUTHOR: Vl Levy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 16, 2008
I am just getting started in Fortun Hi-Tech Marketing, so maybe I haven't been involved long enough to post a rebuttal. However, I have been around long enough in life (42 yrs) to know when someone else's hard work is making a major contribution to the world; And to recognize when others fail to acknowledge this contribution because their own need to be recognized is being fulfilled on a very low level.

A Little Education:

There are 6 needs for existence we ALL have, that must be fulfilled. (Although, many people will violate 5 needs for the sake of getting 1 met because they're really out of balance!)

Each need can be met thru 4 Levels of Attainment.

The lowest level (Level 4) would be the knuckle-dragging level of total unconsciousness. This level is where human atrocities have their roots. It is a case of "The Lights Are On, But No One's Home!". In a nutshell: It doesn't feel good. It's NOT good for you. It's NOT good for others. And, it's NOT good for the whole!

Level 3, is a bit more conscious. The 'home-owner' has electrical problems and the 'light' flickers inconsistantly, being off, more than it is on. In a nutshell: It feels good. But, it's NOT good for you. It's NOT good for others. And, it's NOT good for the whole!

Level 2 is a very high level indeed- it is where a person is creating from a position of total consciousness, being in charge of their lives- only they're not yet walking on water, raising the dead, or healing the sick because they're still learning how to create from a Level 1 position, only they're a bit stuck in the idea that their needs are still being met from outside of themselves, instead of meeting them from the inside-out. In a nutshell: It doesn't always feel good. But, it's GOOD for you. It's GOOD for others. And, it's GOOD for the whole! (This can be easily applied to something like quitting a bad habit.)

Level 1 is the level of attainment where spiritual masters reside. They KNOW they are at one with their Source, and that everything starts within. Therefore, they seek ways to bring forth their needs for existence by first generating those needs from within, and pressing them outward. In a nutshell: It FEELS good. It's GOOD for you. It's FABULOUS for others. And, it's FANTASTIC for the whole!

Now then- without going into major detail here... (But, stick with me- this is important!) The Six Needs for Existence are...

1- The need for SECURITY 2- The need for VARIETY 3- The need for SIGNIFICANCE 4- The need for CONNECTEDNESS 5- The need for GROWTH 6- The need to make a CONTRIBUTION

(For the record, there's a whole web page going into detail about all this, just google "The Secret Formula".)

Now, back to Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing: My partner and I have done extensive research on this company before signing up. (We already have 3 other successful businesses but, like everyone else, it's still been a challenge to make ends meet. Especially since we have to phsycially work so incredibly hard!) We consider ourselves intelligent, enlightened individuals who are not prone to the "Rope-A-Dope" game. EVERYTHING we discovered (and continue to discover) about FHTM has been nothing short of amazing perfection!

Fortun Hi-Tech Marketing has managed to create a channel for others to get ALL their 6 Needs for Existence met, on both a Level 2 and Level 1 Attainment factor! (The part that doesn't feel good is moving beyond one's own fears and insecurities to see the beauty of what they're offering! But it is GOOD for you!) They may not be walking on water... but I do honestly believe they are well on their way!

People, before you drag your knuckles over the works of this fine company, please enlighten yourselves further by doing your homework! FHTM is offering people a way OUT of their illusions of debt and poverty. If you don't want to live a prosperous life, then by all means, feel free to crawl back to your dark world of poverty and victimization. But, if you're looking for a way to empower yourself (and your friends and family!) and a way to really feel secure, inspired, and motivated- THIS IS THE COMPANY who can help you achieve it!

BTW: We made back our measely 299.00 within the first week! (Shoot- we spend more than that at Wal-mart or the feedstore!) Money is an illusion... quit letting it control your lives! Start learning how to master it- and get yourself around others who already have!
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#12 Consumer Comment

Tell the truth Larry

AUTHOR: Slacker_jacker - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, March 09, 2008
Larry;
First of all, you don't even have the costs correct and that is not your only problem. You failed to mention that no respectable, tier 1 fortune 500 company would allow their corporation, publically traded I might add, to be involved in any pyramid scheme like you claim that Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing is, Especially not companies like Home Depot, Verizion Wireless, Cingular, Nextel, Sprint, Alltel, Macy's, Sears, Best Buy, Circuit City, Dell computers, HP, just to name a few; there are many others, incluiding the number two travel site in the world, Travelocity; and lets not forget Dish Network.

And there are over 750 tier 1 corporations that have come to and continue to have Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing be their marketing arm. Why? It's simple; they know that when a company such as Fortune brings them loyal customers, those customers stay, Why? Because people like getting paid back for their shopping efforts at those businesses that they already shop at and they get to be their own best customer, simple.

How much would you spend to get loyal customers that will stay doing business with you year after year? And if Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing is the Evil company that you claim, why was Paul Orberson featured in two very important magazines in 2007 Millionaire Blueprint magazine February 2007 issue, and Success from Home Magazine August 2007 issue? Are these reputable publications lying?

Larry, I just think that you didn't make it and so now you are mad and have filed this rip off report. I believe that if anyone wants to check out the information for themselves, especially those good folks here at rip off reports, directly with the owner and founder of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing Paul Orberson, then they should contact Paul directly at his Lexington Kentucky headquarters at the following address and phone #:

Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing
880 Corporate Drive
Suites 200 and 300
Lexington, KY 40503
Phone: 859.422.7000
Fax: 859.422.7024

Thank you for your time
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#11 Consumer Comment

Feeling Sorry For You All

AUTHOR: Maxmarfortune - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
I really feel sorry for people who claim MLM's to be pyramids and schemes. Before I ever joined Fortune I did extensive reasearch on it because I am not one to plunk down money for nothing. I have had many say "Nice Pyramid" or that's a big scam! What do people think this whole world is about? The people who are in their nice secure thinking and boat say "Oh I'll stay here because it's secure" In this they stay in their get rich never job because they are always working for the "man" never getting ahead. There are too many myths about Fortune that need to be cleared! Paul did not find this company to make him millions he didn't even need the money! Also people think it so neccesary to recruit friend and relatives to buy products and services-not true! You do not need to buy your own products and services it is a just a suggestion. People also think you need to recruit 50 million reps and that is totally not true commissions are paid on customers products and services recruiting is just a bonus to earn immediate income. People need to look around the whole world is network marketing! If you own yor business what do your employees gain are they making the same wages you are? Will they ever surpass you? Employees are your advertising and your leverage to gain more sales so what is the difference between Fortune and a real job or business other than you get to gain so much more and pass up your boss! It is just crazy and very sad that people are so set in their ways and are afraid to take a chance. Fortune sells itself either people get it or they don't and the reps are not forced to sell the idea or products we just move on to people who think outside the box and get it. It's like selling a house or a car the house or car sells itself because someone is already interested in buying it. It is not the salesman who makes the decision! Wake up people network marketing is all around you! whether you like it or not!
Mary FHTM REP and Proud of It!
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#10 Consumer Comment

Feeling Sorry For You All

AUTHOR: Maxmarfortune - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
I really feel sorry for people who claim MLM's to be pyramids and schemes. Before I ever joined Fortune I did extensive reasearch on it because I am not one to plunk down money for nothing. I have had many say "Nice Pyramid" or that's a big scam! What do people think this whole world is about? The people who are in their nice secure thinking and boat say "Oh I'll stay here because it's secure" In this they stay in their get rich never job because they are always working for the "man" never getting ahead. There are too many myths about Fortune that need to be cleared! Paul did not find this company to make him millions he didn't even need the money! Also people think it so neccesary to recruit friend and relatives to buy products and services-not true! You do not need to buy your own products and services it is a just a suggestion. People also think you need to recruit 50 million reps and that is totally not true commissions are paid on customers products and services recruiting is just a bonus to earn immediate income. People need to look around the whole world is network marketing! If you own yor business what do your employees gain are they making the same wages you are? Will they ever surpass you? Employees are your advertising and your leverage to gain more sales so what is the difference between Fortune and a real job or business other than you get to gain so much more and pass up your boss! It is just crazy and very sad that people are so set in their ways and are afraid to take a chance. Fortune sells itself either people get it or they don't and the reps are not forced to sell the idea or products we just move on to people who think outside the box and get it. It's like selling a house or a car the house or car sells itself because someone is already interested in buying it. It is not the salesman who makes the decision! Wake up people network marketing is all around you! whether you like it or not!
Mary FHTM REP and Proud of It!
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#9 Consumer Comment

Feeling Sorry For You All

AUTHOR: Maxmarfortune - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
I really feel sorry for people who claim MLM's to be pyramids and schemes. Before I ever joined Fortune I did extensive reasearch on it because I am not one to plunk down money for nothing. I have had many say "Nice Pyramid" or that's a big scam! What do people think this whole world is about? The people who are in their nice secure thinking and boat say "Oh I'll stay here because it's secure" In this they stay in their get rich never job because they are always working for the "man" never getting ahead. There are too many myths about Fortune that need to be cleared! Paul did not find this company to make him millions he didn't even need the money! Also people think it so neccesary to recruit friend and relatives to buy products and services-not true! You do not need to buy your own products and services it is a just a suggestion. People also think you need to recruit 50 million reps and that is totally not true commissions are paid on customers products and services recruiting is just a bonus to earn immediate income. People need to look around the whole world is network marketing! If you own yor business what do your employees gain are they making the same wages you are? Will they ever surpass you? Employees are your advertising and your leverage to gain more sales so what is the difference between Fortune and a real job or business other than you get to gain so much more and pass up your boss! It is just crazy and very sad that people are so set in their ways and are afraid to take a chance. Fortune sells itself either people get it or they don't and the reps are not forced to sell the idea or products we just move on to people who think outside the box and get it. It's like selling a house or a car the house or car sells itself because someone is already interested in buying it. It is not the salesman who makes the decision! Wake up people network marketing is all around you! whether you like it or not!
Mary FHTM REP and Proud of It!
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#8 Consumer Comment

Feeling Sorry For You All

AUTHOR: Maxmarfortune - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, February 19, 2008
I really feel sorry for people who claim MLM's to be pyramids and schemes. Before I ever joined Fortune I did extensive reasearch on it because I am not one to plunk down money for nothing. I have had many say "Nice Pyramid" or that's a big scam! What do people think this whole world is about? The people who are in their nice secure thinking and boat say "Oh I'll stay here because it's secure" In this they stay in their get rich never job because they are always working for the "man" never getting ahead. There are too many myths about Fortune that need to be cleared! Paul did not find this company to make him millions he didn't even need the money! Also people think it so neccesary to recruit friend and relatives to buy products and services-not true! You do not need to buy your own products and services it is a just a suggestion. People also think you need to recruit 50 million reps and that is totally not true commissions are paid on customers products and services recruiting is just a bonus to earn immediate income. People need to look around the whole world is network marketing! If you own yor business what do your employees gain are they making the same wages you are? Will they ever surpass you? Employees are your advertising and your leverage to gain more sales so what is the difference between Fortune and a real job or business other than you get to gain so much more and pass up your boss! It is just crazy and very sad that people are so set in their ways and are afraid to take a chance. Fortune sells itself either people get it or they don't and the reps are not forced to sell the idea or products we just move on to people who think outside the box and get it. It's like selling a house or a car the house or car sells itself because someone is already interested in buying it. It is not the salesman who makes the decision! Wake up people network marketing is all around you! whether you like it or not!
Mary FHTM REP and Proud of It!
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Here are the important questions that should be answered...

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
I'm considering this opportunity but these are the questions I feel should be answered for me and anyone looking into your opportunity.

1. How many people that register recover their investment within 30 days? Please break this down in percents. If x amount of people came on board last year what % recovered their investment within 30 days, 60 days and 90 days? What percent of people never recover their investment?

2. What does the top 5% do, 10% do, 15% do and break this down to your top 40%.

3. How much money is made on the registration fees as opposed to products sold? Please break this down in detail.

4. Break down the attrition factor in detail. If x amount of people joined last year, what percent stopped the program after 30 days, 60 days and continue to break this down for 24 months.

I thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these questions in detail and assist me in making an informed and intelligent decision in moving forward with your company.

Kind regards,
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Here are the important questions that should be answered...

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
I'm considering this opportunity but these are the questions I feel should be answered for me and anyone looking into your opportunity.

1. How many people that register recover their investment within 30 days? Please break this down in percents. If x amount of people came on board last year what % recovered their investment within 30 days, 60 days and 90 days? What percent of people never recover their investment?

2. What does the top 5% do, 10% do, 15% do and break this down to your top 40%.

3. How much money is made on the registration fees as opposed to products sold? Please break this down in detail.

4. Break down the attrition factor in detail. If x amount of people joined last year, what percent stopped the program after 30 days, 60 days and continue to break this down for 24 months.

I thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these questions in detail and assist me in making an informed and intelligent decision in moving forward with your company.

Kind regards,
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Here are the important questions that should be answered...

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
I'm considering this opportunity but these are the questions I feel should be answered for me and anyone looking into your opportunity.

1. How many people that register recover their investment within 30 days? Please break this down in percents. If x amount of people came on board last year what % recovered their investment within 30 days, 60 days and 90 days? What percent of people never recover their investment?

2. What does the top 5% do, 10% do, 15% do and break this down to your top 40%.

3. How much money is made on the registration fees as opposed to products sold? Please break this down in detail.

4. Break down the attrition factor in detail. If x amount of people joined last year, what percent stopped the program after 30 days, 60 days and continue to break this down for 24 months.

I thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these questions in detail and assist me in making an informed and intelligent decision in moving forward with your company.

Kind regards,
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Here are the important questions that should be answered...

AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 16, 2008
I'm considering this opportunity but these are the questions I feel should be answered for me and anyone looking into your opportunity.

1. How many people that register recover their investment within 30 days? Please break this down in percents. If x amount of people came on board last year what % recovered their investment within 30 days, 60 days and 90 days? What percent of people never recover their investment?

2. What does the top 5% do, 10% do, 15% do and break this down to your top 40%.

3. How much money is made on the registration fees as opposed to products sold? Please break this down in detail.

4. Break down the attrition factor in detail. If x amount of people joined last year, what percent stopped the program after 30 days, 60 days and continue to break this down for 24 months.

I thank you in advance for taking the time to answer these questions in detail and assist me in making an informed and intelligent decision in moving forward with your company.

Kind regards,
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#3 UPDATE Employee

FHTM will make Millionaires!!

AUTHOR: Fhtm Regional Manager - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, August 30, 2007
Hello. When I started reading this report, I really got a kick out of it. There are so many people out there who have been "ripped off" with other companies, and they won't give any other company a chance...and who can blame them, right??

So, how can you tell one company from another? How can you make a educated, conscious decision whether or not to "buy into" one of these companies? I recommend you research the company. I don't mean to type in a couple of words and read the first search result that pops up. (That is how I found this report). What you need to do is really research the companies. Call the corporate office, ask to speak to the someone high up in the company. You could possibly even ask to speak to the CEO. With our company, I am sure if you called our home office and expressed your true concern and interest in our company, our wonderful company reps will answer any question you have.

FHTM is not an illegal pyramid. The million dollar companies that we represent DO NOT let anyone market for them, unless they are a true, lagitimate company. Those companies came to Fortune, to ask us to help them gain some loyal customers. THey can spend millions of dollars in advertising for a TV commercial, and gain just a few hundred customers, who usually leave as soon as they see a better deal. Instead, they pay FHTM those millions of dollars to bring them loyal customers (by word of mouth) and Fortune passes over 90% of it's profit (those advertising dollars from the million dollar companies) to us, the Managers, Regional Managers, etc. There is nothing illegal about that.

This company was created by a wonderful man who's main goal is to help make regular people (like me) wealthy. He knows what it was like to live week to week, month to month, and wants to help others get out of the rat race like he was so fortunate to do. If you research it, you will see that he was "Excel's" top money earner. HE made over $1 million a Month, every month consecutively for four years. Knowing this, you should understand that he knows about the network marketing industry......which is why he knows how to structure this company for maximum growth and profit.

If you go to Staples or Barnes and Noble, check out the "Success from Home" magazine. It is a third party magazine that was put out and tells about our company. Also, you can go to www.whyfortunenow.com to read all about our company. Fortune Hi Tech Marketing is a 100% lagitimate company. You begin in our company as a Manager. Yes, it is $299 to get started. But where else can you become a representative for so many million dollar companies and be able to make monthly residual income from them, all without having overhead, inventory, headaches, etc. We work from a website, which is worth a million dollars itself! You can send anyone, anywhere, anytime, to the internet, to your site, and they can order any product or service from you. Then, every month when they pay their bill, you get a percentage of it back as residual income! How can that be a mistake? For only a $299 investment......you can start to build a business, from home & part-time, that will enable you to become as wealthy as you want to be.

As you wait for your residual income to build, because it doesn't just instantly make you a millionaire overnight, there is a bonus system set up like no other you will ever see. The compensation plan is phenominal, and has set all of the network marketing records, because it has never been done this way and to this extent. Just research it for yourself.....remember, if you don't take the time to really research any company, you won't get the truth!

This is not just my personal opinion, and I am not just saying this because I am a rep for this company. I have done all of the other businesses....ya know, the ones where you sell products in bulk.....sell juices, pills, car clubs, etc. I do not mean that any other of the companies don't "work", however, whenever you have to keep an inventory, make a monthly quota, or go door to door, you are just running yourself around, and missing out on a better businesses.

Thanks for taking the time to read this. Just remember to take my advice and Research the company. PLEASE, do not write mean, incorrect things about a company that you know nothing about. Please make educated comments based on fact, not just "what you heard or read".

Thanks.
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#2 Consumer Comment

The best company I've ever seen!

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, June 01, 2007
I don't know where Larry got all his information from, but the fee for going into your "Own Business" has only gone down over the years while the compensation plan has gone up.

I am a rep in this wonderful company and will have my first promotion this weekend which is only 5 months into the company. Some have done it in just days. You can reach your goals only by your own efforts. I have vision and passion for helping myself and others. I will leave a legacy behind along with thousands of people that just gave themselves a chance.

Yes, Paul Orberson is a very wealthy man, Larry, but not because of this company. He made it in Excel and used millions of his own dollars to build this Fortune for you and others. Take advantage of it!!! If you look down on it now, don't talk too loud because someday this company is going to be a household name and "Oops!"

I have met the owner along with many other top people in this company and I have every opportunity that they did to get to where they are. It's all up to me and what I reach for. I have been so blessed to have this come into my path, I will share with everyone I know. You don't have to live paycheck to paycheck working for the other man. Stop making other people rich! You deserve this!

Not only do you get commission for all the stuff you use, but also of your downline and guess what? You have access to great deals in your rewards mall~~~over 600 stores! You can't not see this. I don't see how anybody can miss it. Check this out again Larry. You are one step closer than a lot of people. You know it's out there. Be you friends' hero and share this. Good Luck!
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#1 UPDATE Employee

Fortune Hi Tech Marketing, The truth......

AUTHOR: Holly - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 29, 2007
I would like to clear the air about Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing. I am not sure if Larry was a Fortune rep and he didn't put enough effort into his business with Fortune which caused him to be upset enough to slander this company? I don't know what he put $1000.00's of dollars into?? If you were going to pay for anything it would just be things that you were already paying for. Cell phone, cable, home security system, etc, but your getting paid for using them through the company.

First I would like to say that I have been blessed to have met the owner of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Paul Orberson and I had to laugh at Larry's accusations. Paul is the most humble, giving, laid back, caring individual for being worth over $200 million dollars. He had said to me during a conversation, "If my plane were to go down on my way home, my money is not going to save me" That comment in itself should tell you how humble this man is. If you would read the article in Self Made Millionares, they did an investigation and an interview with Paul himself.

The question was, Did Paul Orberson create the best company ever? They decided that this was the most generous MLM company ever that they would never write another article about any other MLM company because no company will ever come close to Paul's.

The fee to get into this company is $299.00. This may seem like alot, but think about it, a new rep is brought into this company, they pay their fee, but wait, Paul puts out more than what was paid to get in. Not only is someone who sponsored this person getting paid $100.00-$200.00 , another rep is making $5.00, while another rep is making $100.00-$390, ect. In reality, does this seem like Paul Orberson is ripping us off?

All of the comments about this being a pyramid scheme. Don't you work for a pyramid? Every company has an owner who is bringing in the most money. There has to be a manager, and wait, employees. The employees get paid the least amount of money, yet they are the ones who are making the company successful. Why would all of these tier one companies like General Electric, T-Mobile, Dish Network be involved in a pyramid scheme? They wouldn't. We just get paid by advertising dollars by these companies.

Think about it. These companies have been paying celebreties millions of dollars to do commercials, for what? Hopefully to gain a few customers. They are starting to change their approach. Why not pay us to do word of mouth advertising? We only get paid when we bring them the customer. Isn't this a more logical approach??? We sell more than some of these companies themselves.

People too weak to follow their own dreams will always find a way to discourage yours.

Word of advice. Do not believe everything that you hear over the internet. Investigate your thoughts, but know that there is more valid info out there. We will be featured in The Summer issue of Success from home magazine in 2007. There are alot of successful reps in this company, you could be one of them. You get out what you put into it. Do you have the vision?



Sincerely,
Holly
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