Complaint Review: Legal Helpers - Macey & Aleman - Southfield Michigan
- Legal Helpers - Macey & Aleman 17117 W. Nine Mile Road, Suite 1020 Southfield, Michigan United States of America
- Phone: (888)303-0431
- Web: www.legalhelpers.com
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Legal Helpers - Macey & Aleman Fraud or incompetence? Southfield, Michigan
*Consumer Comment: RyanBK is an idiot and wrong
*Consumer Comment: You probably were not scammed.
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On 12/1/2009 I faxed a letter to Legal Helpers notifying them that I wished to terminate their services. I am still waiting on getting refund of my money. I hired this firm to help me file Chapter 7. I was told that I qualified but that I was borderline. I supplied back to my attorney mistakes I had found in the paper work they entered. The mistakes were in my favor and I made my final payment and supplied my certified check for court filing on 10/31/09. A couple of week's later I was told that the updates were still being done but that my county had just changed the MEANS test score effective November 2009 and I no longer qualified for Chapter 7. They tried to pressure me in filing Chapter 13. I did not wish to do this and decided to terminate our agreement. Legal Helpers is refusing to refund my money. They say it is because they have the right to charge me for their time and costswhich has been inflated. I say they should have known about the pending change to the MEANS test score and that they purposefully mislead me. I will not agree to pay for their poor data entry, their incompetence, their dropped phone calls, etc. Stay far away from this company!
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#2 Consumer Comment
RyanBK is an idiot and wrong
AUTHOR: Security - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 23, 2011
Although you're a paralegal there is no distinction between you and any lay person. Your advice is actually the unauthorized practice of law and you are wrong. Stop spewing BS.
You don't need an entire 6 months, just a couple of pay stubs & the client's own knowledge of their finances is enough to determine whether they pass the means test or not.
Any BK attorney who knows his stuff and is experienced doesn't need an expensive and long drawn out analysis to determine pass and fail per the means test.
RyanBk you just lack the experience, understanding and ability to do a means test sans expensive program.
Get out of goddamn BK or get trained by an experienced attorney.

#1 Consumer Comment
You probably were not scammed.
AUTHOR: RyanBK - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 01, 2011
I am a bankruptcy paralegal and do not work for the company that you retained however the way you described your encounter, though you may be dissatisfied with the process, tells me that they did nothing wrong in the way they conducted business for several reasons
1. When you did the initial consultation, prior to receiving your six months of pay stubs, they probably assessed that you were borderline chapter 7/chapter 13. This could change based upon how long from the initial consultation it took for you to pay the attorney's fees so that they could work on your case. Once they started work on your case the median income for your state had probably changed since the state adjusts that figure several times a year.
No one knows what those numbers are until they come out, so it is not something that they could anticipate. They have to look at the numbers that are currently out to assess your qualifications.
2. Almost every rough draft of a bankruptcy petition has errors in them. Some are data entry and some are things that need to be changed because the client failed to disclose something. That stuff happens all of the time.
3. They didn't refund all of the money that you wanted because they fulfilled almost everything in their contract, if they had already prepared your petition. Bankruptcies are relatively cheap compared to other areas of law and as such, if the attorney has already drafted your petition, they have already spent a lot of time on your case, so they probably kept what they were entitled to.
4. They were probably trying to get you into a Chapter 13 plan because it was your best interest, and it could've been converted into a chapter 7 down the road.
I can understand that you are upset that you didn't get all your money back, but it sounds like they did more work in accommodating you than you realize.
Though they are the equivalent of a big-box store of bankruptcy law firms, In this case you were not ripped off. You were both unfortunate and thought you knew better than the attorney that you hired.


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