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Complaint Review: OKDHS - CPS - Oklahoma City Oklahoma

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  • OKDHS - CPS 2821 N.W.50th St. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma U.S.A.

OKDHS -CPS Kidnapped our child Oklahoma City Oklahoma

*General Comment: Shon's comment: SERIOUSLY?!

*Consumer Comment: Re: Shon's comment: SERIOUSLY?!

*Consumer Suggestion: LIAR DEFENDING THE CPS GESTAPO

*Consumer Comment: Re:get your life together...

*General Comment: RE: Not All True

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Lets occupy cps!

*Consumer Comment: StopDHS

*Consumer Comment: DHS LIES

*Consumer Suggestion: SHON YUKON USA THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.

*General Comment: DHS NEEDS HELP

*Consumer Comment: OKDHS - know them, fear them! they are NOT your friend.

*Consumer Suggestion: help for those asking how to handle cps

*Consumer Comment: I feel your pain

*Consumer Comment: Gretchen, get over yourself

*UPDATE Employee: Is Linda really "L" from Oklahoma?

*Consumer Comment: In response to Nicole FYI

*Consumer Comment: FYI

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: SAVE another family! CALL your Congressmen/wormen about the ASFA. - DHS abuse and neglect PROMOTED by the ASFA is going on all across our country

*Author of original report: Child is home.

*Author of original report: OKDHS Kidnapped our child Oklahoma City Oklahoma

*Consumer Comment: Aren't there laws in place?

*Author of original report: OKDHS - CPS Kidnapped our child Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

*Consumer Comment: Not All True

*Consumer Suggestion: Class Action Lawsuit

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: David, How About a Protection Order?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: David, How About a Protection Order?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: David, How About a Protection Order?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: David, How About a Protection Order?

*Consumer Comment: wow

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Our child was forcibly removed by police accopmanying a CPS worker. In that CPS worker's first visit on our property, she was abruptly hostile shouting and demanding saying "you can show it to me or you can show it to the police!", referring to my wife's ID.as they were outside.I the father heard the CPS worker shouting outside then poened the door and asked her to leave as she was unruly.That CPS worker then left and returned with the police and began beating on the door,resuming her misbehavior.That CPS worker repeated the same
activity with the police for an entire week.The police told that CPS worker repeatedly there is no probable cause to enter.

We brought our son to the window at the police request.
Our son was observed by the police and that CPS worker.
Our son was determined to be in no danger as none xisted.
That CPS worker then left angerly and filed a false statment alleging beatings among all three faimily members,child age 7. That CPS woker obtained a pickup order with that false statement without our knowledge,then provoked the police into breaking in and then took our son.This occured on 08/26/03.

We just obtained the statement from court records on 04/04/06.That statment was never presented in any hearing,leading us to believe that CPS could break in for any reason unopposed. The CPS director stated CPS power is higer than the police. Our family is a normal family and no history of domestic disputes.Everyone we know understands that the CPS worker lied. After reserching CPS,it is common practice that they do that
all the time.They did no interviews with us or anyone who knows us,therefore CPS could and still cannot coraborate anything. CPS must be investigated for corruption and perjurious acts. Our son is beautiful and wants to come home.We love him dearly. We missed and this one only his 10th birthday.God protect him.

If anyone has expirienced a similar situation,hang in there.Contact your local media,law enforcment investigators,CPS employers and friends and legal persons.All must cooperate to protect innocent families from such subversion. Thank you and God bless you all. Peace.

David
Oklalahoma City, Oklahoma
U.S.A.

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#29 General Comment

Shon's comment: SERIOUSLY?!

AUTHOR: David - (United States)

POSTED: Wednesday, January 22, 2020

My heart goes out to all that have to use this format. However, to Shon, I feel your pain. My abuser was none other than Cherri Hammond. She is a liar, and horrible, repulsive, horrendous, disgusting person!!

She did all she could to ruin my family. She harassed my aging mother, she used my middle son’s mother to torment my wife, and children. I should ad that none of her investigation was factual, all of it was false, (filed by a trouble foster kid placed in our home, and removed after assaulting my daughter).

While I blame DHS for her actions, I'm happy to report that she was dismissed (or forced to resign) from CPS. It is my belief that her treatment of people and ability to lie, caught up with the snake. 

It is/was her awful life that may have led to her actions, (no excuse, but the truth). Her son was gunned down https://oklahoman.com/article/3846634/more-tragedy-for-johnson, her husband died at an early age, the woman was the least of the least. I want to add that her husband’s mother is one of the most well-respected people I know, but it is a fact that Cherri is not a part of her in-laws worthy and notable past.

Cherri lives her life in the pits of shame and worthlessness. The only way she could feel better was by making others feel worse. Sick, sad, dumb, old woman, with nothing more to do, but to make others feel the pain she sees when looking in the mirror at herself.  

Hopefully, prayerfully she is sitting somewhere thinking, having nightmares and sleepless nights haunted by the harm she has caused to others.

 I hope you can heal from the pain she caused you and your family.

 

 

 

 

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#28 Consumer Comment

Re: Shon's comment: SERIOUSLY?!

AUTHOR: Felicia D - (USA)

POSTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2017

 Oh sure, you're right about parents needing to get their act together. And by that I mean the parents that DID deserve to have their kids taken. Meanwhile, what have you to say to the MULTITUDES of parents who are innocent but were still forced to go through this nightmare? My children were taken on accusations of neglect toward my daughter who was only 2 months old at the time. My daughter had infant reflux and couldn't keep her formula down. The investigator was a (((REDACTED))) by the name of Cherri Hammond. She was rude from the get-go, refused to hear us on my daughter's struggle with keeping her formula down, called us liars when we told her what a doctor at Baptist Integris had told us -- they couldn't officially diagnose the Infant Reflux at that time because they'd not been able to catch it in the act with the X-Ray but that it's what he suspected. Had my then-husband and I known what was going to happen, we would have made sure to get the name of the doctor who told us that. Instead, we were told that if a medical reason could be found by the doctors at OU Children's could be found, we'd get my kids back. Well, guess what: The doctor we dealt with wasn't interested in finding a medical reason for my daughter's weight problem. The nurses saw how much my daughter would spit up after a feeding but the doctor coldly blew me and my husband off every time we tried to talk to her about my daughter having Infant Reflux. Even when, as what happened with us, my daughter dropped weight while under the strict and sole care of the nursing staff, she STILL would not listen to us. Oh, and your claim that people get their kids back after the "show cause" hearing if found that they've done nothing wrong? HA!!!!! That's a crock because even when we told the judge the issues we'd had with my daughter's difficulty in keeping her formula down and what the doctor at Integris had said about his suspicions of Infant Reflux, the judge STILL decided that nah, we had to have neglected her. Never mind the fact that my daughter was finally officially diagnosed as having Infant Reflux within 2 months of being in Foster Care. Do you think I heard a goddamn apology or even a "My bad, you were right, here's your children back, ma'am"? NO! It took 22 months of that fuc**** nightmare for me to FINALLY get my children back over something that we were not guilty of in the first place. Oh and by the way, here's where Cherri Hammond ranks on the "Sack of Sh**" scale: while waiting for my daughter to be admitted to OUC and still reeling from the trauma of seeing my 16-month-old son screaming for me and my ex-husband, Cherri had THE AUDACITY to whine at me about how it was her birthday that day and she was already supposed to be home with her family cause they were supposed to take her out for a special dinner. I felt ABSOLUTELY NO GUILT whatsoever in informing her of the fact that it was my husband's birthday that day. I didn't have to add the "so shut the fu** up, you direly nasty (((REDACTED)))!" as it was quite clear in my tone. You, Shon, clearly don't have experience with this, so take your pomposity and shove it. You know nothing of the pain that people like me were put through because of OKDHS nor the long-reaching traumatic effects that my eldest son and my daughter (especially my daughter who, at 10 years old, still deals with levels of separation anxiety; it's not as bad as it used to be, but it's still at a level that it shouldn't be at for a child her age).

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#27 Consumer Suggestion

LIAR DEFENDING THE CPS GESTAPO

AUTHOR: Nextaxpro - (USA)

POSTED: Saturday, March 09, 2013

To the cps gestapo defender purported to be from the Yukon:

Thou shalt not bear false witness.  You, sir are a liar!  cps gestapo is well known for its evil record of incessant and unbroken lies to kidnap children.  When you say: the child is immediately returned if charges unfounded or unproven, you are GUILTY of callousness and n**i Germany.  In n**i Germany, the children were taken from their parents and placed in "Hitler youth" camps.  The children were brainwashed { as today} and refused from then on to listen to their parents.  When the parents attempted to prevent fornication, premarital pregnancy and brainwashing, the gestapo came after them.  I cannot imagine being kidnapped from my parents for even one hour.  It would have devastated me for the rest of my natural life and probably induced me to overdose on pills in a suicide attempt.

   In today's world, there is the evil, devilish belief that the children belong to the state.  That is a LIE!! No where in the Word of GOD does the LORD say that the children belong to any one but the parents.  Honor thy father and thy mother.  Children obey your parents in the LORD, for this is right.

   Our Founding Fathers knew that there are EVIL CRIMINAL plights in this world who believe that the children belong to the state, to a sorcerer shrink or some "social worker", etc.  That is why the 4th Amendment was inputted.  The children have the right to be safe in their homes.  No cps gestapo socialist wrecker has any right to enter in to a home at all ever!  That is what Hitler did.  That is what Stalin did.  That's what the liberals do:  violate your Constitutional rights.  Time magazine in 1935 nominated Hitler "man of the year" in 1935!!!!!!!  This is one of literally millions of proofs that liberalism is evil with the the EVIL intent to brainwash you and get you to accept EVIL thinking.  Woe unto them that call good evil, and evil good -Isaiah 5:20.  Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees:  Isaiah 10:1.  GOD Judgeth the righteous, and GOD is Angry with the wicked EVERY DAY:  Psalm 7:11.  Yeah, yukon, you know a lot about how the system works.  Then why aren't you exposing it.  If you do not REPENT, receive the LORD JESUS CHRIST as your Savior, you will stand at the Great White Throne, petrified, as you see ALL ALL ALL your evil thoughts, evil intents, lies and evil actions EXPOSED -LUKE 12;2- for all the universe to see.  YOU will be hurled in to the Lake Which burneth with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

  FDR was a very vile, evil, wicked man.  He knew what was going to happen when he used LIES, fear and propaganda to pass the communist insecurity act of 1935.  cps gestapo gets funds from medicare to do their evil work.  We are living in a reign of terror, just as n**i Germany, fascist Italy, and all communist countries live under.  We are in an evil world: Galatians 1:4.  It is among the "enlightened intellectual community" that we see the the belief that the children do not belong to their biological parents.  Men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil - John 3:19

   WORK to eliminate the cps gestapo.  As I point out in my blogs, have a King James Bible at your front door.  The cps gestapo not to be allowed to enter your home.  They ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS BEAR FALSE WITNESS.  Do NOT co-operate with them.  The cps gestapo are notorious for lying, saying:  "this is the worst mess I ever saw".  They will LIE.  If you do not discipline your children, they will childnap your children on the "grounds" that you are allowing your children to be unruly.  If you discipline your children, they will steal your children on the "grounds" of child abuse"!!!  They will ALWAYS LIE to get Federal funds.  "If it does not make sense, there is a buck in it".  That explains what DDS, HHS, CFPS, CPS and ALL govt agencies after the same thing:  to intimidate you and install a reign of TERROR.  That is what is happening now.  Every one I talk to knows what the cps gestapo is.

   ALL ALL ALL ALL cps gestapo workers, their supervisors, sorcery shrink psychologists, judges, lawyers, police bureaucracies, false witness are to be detained, jailed, tried, and, if found guilty - hanged.
   Much more to come.  You don't have to follow my blogs if you don't wish to.  Check these and more:
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www.jesus-is-savior.com  Type in "cps"
www.fightcps.com

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#26 Consumer Comment

Re:get your life together...

AUTHOR: Mrs.Cleaver - (United States of America)

POSTED: Friday, March 08, 2013

Kind Sir,

You obviously have absolutely zero experience with OKDHS, other than your obvious employment there.  Of course you are standing, or crawling in my opinion, with your fellow employees.   You sir are the perfect patsy for those at OKDHS to train for their every whim, including stealing children from loving homes.  It must suite your position well to be so easily manipulated by your supervisors and superiors.  So well in fact that you are here on this web site spouting out the very lies that we "needing to get our lives together" have heard.  Did it ever occur to you that our lives WERE perfectly together prior to our unfortunate encounter with those that are now your colleagues.  The whole point is that OKDHS does NOT follow the laws you enjoy quoting for everyone.  They instead have been successfully operating under some kind of immunity to those laws.  The same laws that the rest of America is expected to follow.  You should really do a little more "living" and gain some real life "experiences" before tooting your horn to people that have lost more than you have yet to understand.    

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#25 General Comment

RE: Not All True

AUTHOR: POandFU - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, May 22, 2012

Your rebuttal would be the perfect answer, IF this was a perfect world and how the system works.  After having my first child 24 years ago, having 3 more children over the years, I am now involved in this so very messed up system.  I have a set of 13 year old twins who have been interviewed privately Without my knowledge, then interviewed myself and all fine.  Two weeks later, someone who does not know me or anything about me made a report due to their own revengeful acts against someone else and now my children have been removed from my home due to Failure to Protect. Both 13 year olds still report all allegations are false.  They are happy, loved and protected children at home with their mom.  My kids are not babies anymore who cannot speak for themselves.  DHS Caseworker has not one time spoke with anyone who has seen the kids at home or my parenting with the kids.  They have not even bothered to contact the children's teachers, bus drivers, etc.  People who see them everyday!! Instead they refuse to allow any type of contact with ANY family members. Not allowed to speak with their brothers or sisters. NOTHING.  They have not tried to place them with family as State Statute REQUIRES.  They feel they are above and beyond the checks and balances system this country was built on. WRONG!

Show cause Hearing?? State Statute requires Hearing within 2 Judicial days.  It has been almost a full week, Still not a show cause Hearing! Also, your response would mean an impartial Judge.  Though their oath as Justices states they must be impartial, not bias...I for one who has been dealing in law for over 10 years now can tell you, the Justices are very PARTIAL to DHS and other state agencies.

Where's the right in this?? Where are the voices of the children?? Mine are old enough to have a say.  They have a mind, a voice, logic and reasoning...yet they are not allowed to use any of the above.  This is crazy!!


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#24 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Lets occupy cps!

AUTHOR: mark t - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, December 19, 2011

Yes the cps is indeed a national disgrace, but they have so much force in effect behind them - from the many who havent been victimized YET and who roll like stupid cattle and say MOO when their neighbor is foreclosed, or the household de-patriarched, or their progeny swindled away - to the dedicated and modestly paid court system hacks who are in spirit so alien to true community and family, that one could almost imagine viewing them through special sunglasses as an alien species altogether. Take a HARD LOOK at your family circles, friends, neighbors, associates, and community at large. TELL THEM that NO GOVERNMENT EVER made ANY country great. WE THE PEOPLE made this country great, and that government only controls, regulates, polices and stifles creativity. If they then shrug you off for disrupting their morning buzz, or if they scramble to find some hotline to report you to - THEN THEY ARE AMONG THE MULTITUDES of parasite bureaucrats or their lackeys who put on a jew mask and make careers of gutting their fellow man.

THIS IS WHERE WE DRAW THE LINE IN THE SAND. So so so many people work against what is right. The tremendous division in our people has become unignorably staggering.

Napoleon CHOPPED THE HEADS OFF OF AN ENTIRE CLASS of controlling elitist bourgoese pigs, cohorts and all - and notice TODAY that France isn't mentioned much in the 'cps' blitzkrieg across the west. So no kids stolen in France? They purged that elitist body politic long ago. The motto of the revolution was 'fraternity, brotherhood and equality' - thus French so-called socialism differs from OUR ELITIST kennedy clintonesque american royalty socialism.

YEAH ! When they killed the king, they REALLY killed the kingship for the centuries - and the b**ch queen too ! Back then, if you werent of the bourgoese elite, then you were probably of the servant class. Regardless of race, servants were all house niggas. The 'mauster' of the house or business could have their way with your spouse or children and you had no recourse, because you were just too poor or stupid in their eyes. WOW ! Just like today with the elitist socialists who menace us.

So think about THAT you foster parents - you useful idiots of the scheme. You pay for your margin financed mcmansions with government perks to convert into owner operated orphanages - with children STOLEN from parents who simply can't afford to fight your corrupt elitist system. And if you aren't the 'useful idiots', then we can assume you to be willing participants in the crime. Perhaps you drive by trailer parks, or a humble cottage or non-conforming architecture and you SCOFF saying ''how can any kids live like that''. You look for something wrong with the place to report - trying to bag some more kids to pay for your noisy group home. LIKE I SAID - THE LINE IN THE SAND HAS BEEN DRAWN. And it doesn't matter if I've known you for years, neighbor. The gestapo I.R.S. of the 70s and 80s employed you elitist bureaucrat parasites to terrorize main street small businessmen for the big box 90s. But that was just the independents vs walmart. But to STEAL OUR CHILDREN ? ! Now we the people are JUST PLAIN MAD !

There is no statute of limitations on kidnapping and we will REMEMBER YOU ALL FOREVER - - from the f****t mamas boy cops who makes dates of providing armed escort to the angry feminist l*****n cps workers on their child grabs - raising the bar to AGGRAVATED kidnapping - to the robo-judges and prosecutors - to the elitist brand 'graduated dependency' socialist work preachers and mentors in our local extacy rave party state teachers colleges - OUR EYES ARE ON YOU ! ! PEOPLE WAKE YOUR NEIGHBOR ! ! Everybody RISE UP ! ! HELLOOO ! ! THIS IS OUR DAY people. RISE AND SHINE . . .

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#23 Consumer Comment

StopDHS

AUTHOR: StopDHS - (United States of America)

POSTED: Saturday, July 31, 2010

This is one of the many reasons that (((Redacted)))was created.
1) to show people who are victims of Oklahoma DHS system that they are not the only ones who have been terrorized, insulted, put-down, or had all resemblance of self confidence of your parenting abilities smashed.
2)  To be a support group for those who are currently taking the tour of the OKDHS system.
3) and ultimately come together and create some type of legislation that will help make the necessary evil known as OKDHS be more accountable for their actions.

If you know some people who are going through the this unimaginable heartache please send them to stopDHS.com or if you have some ideas as to how you can help you are more than welcome yourself.
(((Redacted)))


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#22 Consumer Comment

DHS LIES

AUTHOR: POO-BUTT - (United States of America)

POSTED: Monday, April 26, 2010
I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL I,M GOING THROUGH SOMETHING LIKE THAT I,M DOING EVERYTHING DHS SAID TO DO AND THEY LIE TO ME. ALL WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT DHS IS TRUE THEY LIE TO THE PARENTS AND TO THE CHILDREN THIS MAKES ME PISS  THEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE ABUSING THEY KIDS AND GETS AWAY WITH IT.THAT s**t JUST KILLS ME BUT HERE WE ARE FIGHTING TO GET OUR CHILDREN  BACK THEY ARE SOME OF THE MOST LIEING  a*s PEOPLE IN THE WORLD AND THATS THE TRUE.
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#21 Consumer Suggestion

SHON YUKON USA THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS.

AUTHOR: Nextaxpro - (United States of America)

POSTED: Sunday, April 25, 2010

SHON YOU ARE A LIAR!!  "CPS returns the kids".  Every LIAR knows when she/he is lying.  cps is total evil because they have no right to exist;  NO ONE has the right to kidnap children;  the Constitution of the U.S. GUARANTEES the right to safety in their own homes and Shon knoweth that cps does these GESTAPO tactics because the workers have a QUOTA.  If the worker does not STEAL their QUOTA they are FIRED!!  State cps, dchs, dss, hss {notice how leftists always LIE about what an agency REALLY IS and should be labeled} are KIDNAPPING to get more Fed funds.  The children are not willingly returned.  They most frequently KIDNAP on Fridays because the weekend is here and you have only 3 days to get a hearing!!  The children are put up for adoption within 15 months.  Many parents never see their children again.  Shon you KNOW THAT YOU ARE LYING when you say "parent protective services".  I cannot imagine the police state terror of being KIDNAPPED and separated from my parents for even 12 hours.  Families are being atomized.  NO ONE has the right to KIDNAP.

   Please see a few of my blogs.  I show what to do and I have Links.  DO NOT EVER co-operate with the gestapo.  Do not ever allow a cps gestapo "worker" to enter your home.  You do not ever co-operate with the devil.  cps gestapo can only come in if the police accompany them and there is imminent danger to the children.  Even THAT is suspect as there are many corrupt police bureaucracies.  It is all a MAFIA as there is money and all these lawyers, judges, police bureaucracies, sorcerer sodomite shrinks and socialist wreckers are in it for FILTHY DOLLAR BILLS!!

CPS, DCFS, DHS socialist anti-service agencies, shrinks, ABA, guardian ad litem: Here's some dirty tricks they play: http://www.massnews.com/past_issues/2001/march%202001/marfam.htm Every parent and foster parent has to read this: http://rscraps.com/NFPCAR/References/DirtyTricks.htm According to a DCFS spokeswoman, the agency does not track the sexual orientation of prospective foster or adoptive parents: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=29180 "What's going on here is outrageous," Humiston told WorldNetDaily. "Utah's juvenile courts eliminate all but a thin facade of due process." He said that by law, parents "can be anonymously accused and never get to face their accusers," with no right to a jury, no right to remain silent, and no presumption of innocence. Worse, he added, "all proceedings are conducted in secret," with the state regularly terminating "parents' rights without ever showing that (they) are unfit." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=1777 dcfs devils!! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Family/dcfs_monsters.htm Destroy the world's most evil cult, psychology now!! http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evils%20in%20Government/Police%20State/the_psycho_state.htm "How you raise your children is between you and God alone. It is not a matter for the state or anyone else; it never has been." http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62153 The "Texas Department of Child Abduction," which writer William N. Grigg "sometimes wittily refers to as the Department of Protective and Family Services," acted on an anonymous call from a shady character named Rozita Swinton. Rozita was released by the Texas ruffians after being briefly detained. The innocent victims of her mischief-making are being held indefinitely, separated from their mothers. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62505

cps  GESTAPO runs a number of homeless shelters.  This is insidious. The Constitution of the United States of America guarantees the safety of citizens in their homes. Most parents and grandparents do not know this. But in a homeless shelter, the homeless have no such Constitutional protection and, the cps stomp all over and have disdain and contempt - as do all sorcerer psychologists and socialist wreckers - for the Constitution. If any homeless soul speaks out or even hints at what cps truly stands for and what they do to our citizens, the person in charge will immediately exit that homeless soul. I know a real life example of that. A homeless person at one of the evening "meetings" spoke out vs. cps. Within hours, the host of that "meeting" made up an obscene lie and told that homeless person to exit immediately. A thief was in cohoots with the guy in charge, whom Oh, yes, it was very cold that night. That heinous criminal is still employed because he is serving the lying cps kidnapping brazen abominable kgb machine. www.fightcps.com For church groups and environmental communists to worry about swampland and animals more than terrorists and immigrante illegales sneaking over the border with Mexico, as they have been doing is nothing less than treason. These traitors are to be tried and executed. They are Ted Kennedy's! Animals don't have "rights"!! What about our Constitutional rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Duh, oh, yeah!! Missed it, didn't you?! http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=62395 You, environmentalist thief traitor, are responsible for scenario such as this: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352384,00.html           http://blog.360.yahoo.com/blog-GN8MB_08fLK8uLqngFNBGmBz?l=6&u=10&mx=31&lmt=5

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#20 General Comment

DHS NEEDS HELP

AUTHOR: POO-BUTT - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, April 14, 2010

I HAD A MEETING WITH DHS MONDAY AT 3PM. ME AND MY OLDEST DAUGHTER DEONA AND MY COUSEL BEV. WENT WITH ME AND THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY WAS GOING TO TAKE MY RIGHTS WAY FROM ME .I,M IN PARENTING CLASSES AND ANGER CLASSES.AND MY BABY IS 3MOS. OLD I,M DOING WHAT THESE PEOPLE TALE ME BUT THEY DON'T CARE. SO YOU CAN HELP ME FIGHT THESE PEOPLE FROM TAKING MY RIGHTS WAY SAMEBODY ON THIS SITE.THEY SAID I'M RETARDED AND INCAPABLE OF TAKING CARE OF MY BABY WHICH IS NOT TRUE.I'M SICK AND TRIER OF DHS LIES AND GODS DOING TO GET THEM BECAUSE HE SAID DON'T TOUCH MY PEOPLE.SO IF ANYBODY CAN HEL ME WITH LEGAL OR ANYTHING PLEASE DO SO.THANK YOU PLEASE SENT ME A EMAIL AT (((Redacted))),OR CALL (((Redacted))).


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#19 Consumer Comment

OKDHS - know them, fear them! they are NOT your friend.

AUTHOR: Enlightened Granny - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Thursday, January 08, 2009

i am new to this resource so i am just getting caught up with the many comments to this particular sad story. i apologize up front for the length of my "tirade" but i am rebutting a few different folks who responded to this person's report.

the first thing that i have noticed is that people from other states outside of OK in particular & the south in general find it hard to believe that cps could really be this out of control or, that they would EVER do things that were NOT in the best interest of the children. well, i hate to break it to you but they really do. need i remind you that this is a state where native people were marched for punishment because owned too much land, had too much pride & refused to submit to the continued abuse of their conquerors. this is an area where people of color were not even allowed their basic civil rights well into the 70's & 80's. a state where they still don't want to accept our new president because he is a threat to their own ways. yes, OK allows cps workers to remove children who are NOT at risk of any kind just by stating they think they're at risk. and, if you think about it you can see their rationale. it is much easier for them to go after those who have done nothing to their children other than love them than it is for them to tackle any serious abusers. most people who've done nothing are not prepared to have documented what a good parent they are or that their home & life style is safe, etc. the only way dhs can justify their existence is to allow innocent children to be victimized by the truly abusive parents while also inflating the number of abused children by including children who were NEVER really abused also. i know its sick & twisted but that's how they roll out there. i'm sure in many other states, breaking up families is the last resort & they probably have workers who may actually behave professionally when dealing with families in this kind of situation. however, OK is NOT one of them! i have cared for children for over 45 years, been a foster parent to many children over the years, adopted 3 children as well as raised my own 4 children during that time. i have NEVER had a child taken from me & believed like many of you that as long as you did the right things you & your family could live out your life happily & without fear. well, i'm here to tell you that does NOT exist in OK. yes, the workers can take your children for little or no reason by making up stories [we call that lying], yes the DA, judges & workers are in on it & yes it has been going on for years apparently. yeah, there are laws, protocol & procedures the workers are supposed to follow when they suspect abuse but they do NOT follow any of them if they want to take the children in question. cute, adoptable kids are their favorites! those of you who have never been poor or had to struggle to keep a roof over your head & food in your kids mouths have been truly blessed because many people are not that fortunate. who are we to judge whether or not a person is too poor to have children? if the children are loved & cared for as best the parents can, that should be good enough to get them some help instead for destroying their family. could any of our birth families stood such close scrutiny? besides, if we just willy nilly take ALL the children from all the poor families, all the uneducated families, all those needing parental guidance or assistance & anyone else less than skillful in raising their own kids, where in the world would they ALL go? and, who would we get to love & care for ALL of them? we'd be a nation of angry, disconnected, depressed, emotionally bankrupt people! i don't think that was the objective for creating the cps program years ago. now, i'm NOT talking about those families where children are being brutalized or severely neglected because they don't give a darn about their parental responsiblity or the well being of their child[ren]; that is what intervention programs are for. i am talking about the frivolous reports cps workers either make up themselves or get from angry older children, vengeful neighbors, jealous friends and/or family members as well as mean spirited people with some kind of axe to grind. the workers are supposed to do investigations into the allegations NOT make them up or embellish them! if you don't think kids ever get angry enough at their parents to make a false report, read the news! in the past couple months, children as young as 4 yrs old have shot people who made them mad so how hard would it be to say something to get back at your parent. ever since the spanking ban of the 1980's, kids have been holding that one over their parents heads. besides, all you have to do if there really is abuse would be document it. if their people are properly trained they should be able to conduct a comprehensive investigation & get at the truth. if there is real abuse, why would you nned to lie about it or embellish the facts? just because an allegation is made doesn't mean that it is true & no assumptions should be made without physical proof or other CONCRETE evidence.

all you have to do is read about some of the more recent OKDHS cases & you'll see they do not really care about the welfare of the children. there are several high profile cases going on now where serious allegations of sexual abuse of young children, neglect to the point of injury, hospitalization or even death, etc, etc have occured yet the abused child was NOT even removed from the home for days while they say they were doing an investigation. they also left siblings in the home where the abuse occured even after the abused child was removed. yet, they 'bum rush' people who seek medical attention for their kids for household accidents, whose kids come to school clean, fed & prepared for classes daily and who are otherwise perfectly happy children. race, class & social standing mean everything in OK apparently. and yes, they do take kids for bogus made up reasons that do NOT exist despite what you may believe or think you know about the world around you. no, it shouldn't be happening in America in this day & age but it is, so believe it or slurp it folks. again, its about the numbers - keeping the numbers higher than average helps them to rake in higher than average federal subsidies for the state. that way, they need more funding for workers, DA's & judges, help more adoptive parents to be served & more families are left irretrievably broken [requiring more dhs social services]. the federal money that goes back into this broken system was put in place to help PROTECT our children & keep families together NOT destroy their lives! these OK people have had a 44% turnover rate among their workers in the past couple years folks, so they can't be doing much right! every child deserves a safe, loving home free from fear, duress & physical threats of violence. that's why i became a foster parent years ago. i was one of the good ones who loved my foster kids like my own, gave them a good safe home, nice clothes & nutritious meals EVERY day. they were integrated into our whole family and treated with love & respect always. apparently, we were held to a much higher standard than they are in OK. we were not allowed to talk disparingably about the natural parents no matter how bad they were. unless the rights were already terminated, we NEVER told the children they would not see their parent[s] again. we could not beat, threaten or abuse our fosters nor could we allow our children to do so. we could not have any animals who were aggressive or were any threat to the safety of the children. and, above all we had to keep them healthy & well provided for. any charge of institutional abuse [abuse occurring while in custodial care] was strickly forbidden & therefore investigated immediately by the dept. if found guilty or even strongly suspected, you could lose your license or be suspended. that does NOT happen in OK ever. in our country, you are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty! in this country we provide ADEQUATE counsel for ANYONE who says they can't afford representation. i know for a fact that is not always poor people [just watch the news sometime]. rapists & murderers have more rights & have a better chance of being found not guilty than anyone who comes in contact with cps in OK because even when there is NOTHING, they can say there is something & move on with their claim. ANYONE who does NOT corroborate their version of events is called a liar in court , on the record & wherever they can put it to further discredit you; they are persecuted to the point of mental breakdown & usually told they are stupid, weak & crazy. basically, they tell their clients that they are god, judge, jury & executioner when it comes to destroying their family. many of the workers are rude, vindictive & totally unprofessional as stated in an earlier report, often discussing confidential matters with everyone but the poor families they're hurting. don't get me wrong, i don't believe all of these stories just cause they say so but, since we in my family are now going thru similar turmoil with OKDHS i KNOW for a fact that these things really do happen just like some of the folks have stated. and, my people were NOT doing anything to get noticed by cps either but they are a mixed couple with very cute children. they made the mistake of trying to move out of state to get away from the lack of employment opportunities, poor living conditions & the crazy bad weather. although the kids are supposed to be returned soon, the foster person tells them they will NEVER be going back to those awful people again [their own parents who had done NOTHING to them]. one of the babies [age 3] doesn't want to call this person mommy so she is being isolated & mistreated for hours at a time while the other 2 siblings participate in activities, etc. she is often left in the care of her troubled 17 yrr old foster son who we ALL believe is molesting her. in less than 2 months, the child has lost about 10 pounds [a lot for a small young child], is completely depressed & no longer talks to adults. had any of this been going on while they were with their parents, they would have been removed so fast their heads would still be spinning, as they should have done! in fact, their accusations, as untrue as they were, were nowhere near as severe as what is happening to the children now. no less than 6 reports have been made about the various abuses yet, dhs has failed to investigate any of these allegations to date. all they did was restrict the parents' access to the kids so they wouldn't know how badly the children were being treated. so, are you saying that this is better for the children than being safe at home with people who actually love them? and yes, it did happen & no they hadn't done anything else other than report that their children were being treated much worse than they could even imagine someone would treat children. the 2 older children were abused while in the state group home awaiting their placement. not only was one of the children abused daily by workers who told her they could do what they wanted to her & NO ONE would stop them, she also ended up with stitches to close an eye injury 2 weeks after another eye injury had occured. because she wouldn't 'admit' that she had been being abused at home [instead of only at their place] they started drugging her saying she was adhd despite the fact she had been functioning fine at school & home all these years prior to this. she went from being an a/b student to being a d/f student in less than 2 months. these children [5] are ALL miserable because they're separated from each other, they're being kept from their parents who have loved & tried to protect them & they had to spend their holidays sad, sick & in disarray instead of with their own parents, cousins, etc. so who's going to clean up their emotional mess when this nightmare is over? i doubt that it will be OKDHS unless they're irdered to in a court settlement.

so please, don't judge people you don't know unless you have walked several miles in their shoes personally. i challenge you to come live in OK with YOUR own children & see how long it takes for them to make something up about you & your family for the most insignificant issue. about the naive lady who lost her child, you know, there are some times when people don't know that they're with a really bad person at first but i believe most of them do eventually know. when you know its going on, you should be punished as well. enabling abuse is as bad as aiding & abetting murder and should be treated that way. but EVERYONE is not abusive & we should not be made to feel that way. not everyone is trying to have a pity party just to make cps look bad. most of us would agree that cps is supposed to be a good thing and should be there to help keep kids safe & provide a helping hand for those in need. they are only human & can't be right all the time but i don't believe for a minute that a loving grandma would stand idly by & allow her grandkid to be abused or just not notice! well, maybe everyone but those foks in FL whose 2 yr old adorable granddaughter was missing for 4 weeks before they reported it. where was cps then? or, the 11 yr old who disappeared 10 yrs ago but his adoptive parents didn't think it was necessary to report him missing [while probably benefitting from his adoption even after he was gone]. where was cps for that child? i know those are 2 different states but the point is the same. bad parents get away with murder & have lots of rights while those trying to be decent parents are persecuted regularly by cps. NO ONE is above the law when it comes to the well being of children. that is how it is meant to be. also in case you didn't know it, there is a federal lawsuit going because there really are serious problems that MANY people are NOT making up. the system is broken & needs to be fixed before another needless tragedy occurs. if there really are good cps & dhs workers in the state of OK, i challenge them to take a stand against this institutional corruption & abuse of authority and say NO to libel, slander, perjury, fraud, forgery & ethnic intimidation. maybe if you try to do whats right, try to help children who are REALLY being abused or neglected, helped families who need more guidance & work harder to keep your kids in their home when you KNOW they are NOT in any danger, etc. stand up & make a difference for the children's sakes! help the feds find another way to fund their well-intended programs that do NOT encourage states to 'cook the books" or steal & sell innocent children like they did back in the 40's & 50's. and yes, that did happen also. several movies were made about the practice. do some real research before attacking the credibility of others please. wishing you a better year than we dhs victims are having. good luck in all you do...

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#18 Consumer Suggestion

help for those asking how to handle cps

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 22, 2008

There are many things you can do to handle the CPS. There are many informative sites on this web that inform you of your rights. There is one thing you should know. Do not give them reason to find fault. Do you case plans, take your counseling, lead your life in an exemplary manner. Smile, be polite but firm.

Swallow your pride and don't let them know they'ry getting to you. Now, get ready to fight. The way you lead your life and work your hardest to cooperate will show itself to the court. You do not have to allow the Social worker in your home without a court order. Even if they threaten you with the police.

The police usually cannot help the DHS without a court order. Do not surrender your children without a court order. Get you a notebook and take notes on everything. Every time you talk to a worker, talk to your kids, anything that has something to do with the case Write It Down. Do it in front of your worker.

Just tell her it's to make sure you don't get anything wrong. AND DON'T GIVE UP!!! Go to fightcps.org. They have alot of information. Investigate. Keep files on your workers, everyone involved. Call them on anything they lie about or deny saying. Make sure you sign and date each entry in your notebook. Take it to every court hearing. That way you can look up anything and bring it to the courts attention.

Keep your head up and find anything you can on your rights. Each state should have a website with a link to make grievances. Do it every time they don't do what they should. I'm on my 12th social worker in the 4 years this has been going on. I've had 4 counties, 3 judges, and who knows who else. I'm still here. I didn't know anything at first.

If I had I would never have went through this. Now realize you have to do what you have to do to make it and get your kids home. If that means getting someone to watch your other children safely in one state so you can go to a hearing in another state do it. What ever it takes. If you need a good attorney and can't afford one your kids aren't with you now get a second job, ask for help from family do it. Pray, work hard, and never loose hope. ya'll may email for info (((email redacted)))

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#17 Consumer Comment

I feel your pain

AUTHOR: Dana - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, July 19, 2008

David I so feel your pain because of DHS putting my son in so called protective custody he is now dead. They took him from school while I was as at work and put him in a home where he was physically and sexually abused and now he is gone forever.

On July 18, 2008 they came to my home while I was at work and took my grandson. I know people always says history repeats itself but why does it have to do it in this matter. I so feel I have suffered enough I am so afraid they are going to call any day and say there was an accident and that my grandson is now gone too and once again nothing will happen to them. I understand they help a lot of people I just don't happen to be one of them. Why does God hate me so bad that he would let all this bad stuff happen to me why must I suffer so much pain.

Once my son was dead everybody just turned their backs they wouldn't even help me bury him. Even Larry Jones of Feed The Children where my son was doing volunteer work. All they did was keep hounding me for more money for his organization. It took forever for them to leave me alone they were worse then a bill collector. Up until my sons death I was a regular supporter of their organization but since my son's death I have vowed to never give another dime of my money to Larry Jones or his organization.

This was the 3rd time DHS had vowed to take my grandson this time they succeeded and he is only 2 & 1/2 months old. My daughter & I are so devastated and there is nothing I can do to help her. I know the little people don't stand a chance when it comes to DHS they do whatever they want whenever they want and there is nothing you can do about it. Unless of course you have lots of money and can afford to hire a lawyer who has some pull with the Judge. I tried to find some outside help (which is something I never do and will never do again) but that only made things worse and so now once again I am fighting an army all alone in a war I can't possibly win.

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#16 Consumer Comment

Gretchen, get over yourself

AUTHOR: Tlwaggoner - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, August 10, 2007

Gretchen,
If you truely are a Social Worker with Child Protective Services, which I doubt highly....You for one would know for a fact that Child Protective Services recives a bonus for every child adopted out of foster care, thats a fact! It's called The Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, singed by Bill Clinton. Each State recives between 4,000.00 to 10,000.00 per adoption in most case's even more, if the states increase the number of child adopted every year the more bonus money they recive. And as far as you bashing L, how juvenil of you! Stop trolling around here to torment people with baseless have truths and flatout lies!!!

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#15 UPDATE Employee

Is Linda really "L" from Oklahoma?

AUTHOR: Gretchen - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 04, 2007

This victim mentality is really getting out of hand. "L" is a complete nut ball who quotes inaccurate information in her attempt to slam CPS workers. Linda (from Tulsa) did it ever occur to you that you didnt notice any abuse or neglect of your grandchildren because you raised your daughter the same way? If you are so concerned about the welfare of your family members, why do you complain about not getting any money or clothes for them. Arent family members supposed to take care of their own? "L" why dont you find yourself a good psychiatrist and quit boring everyone with your crap about CPS? There is no reason in the world that CPS workers would "pick your name out of a phone book" and take your children for no reason. There are enough legitimate cases that nobody would waste their time trying to take children away from perfectly good parents. Your crap about BONUSES is flat out lies. Childrens Services workers get hourly pay and do not get one dime for removing children from their parents home. State Agencies do not get BONUSES for terminating parental rights and adopting children out as you have claimed repeatedly. Get your head on straight and find something productive to do with your time. You are just repeating the same crap over and over and it appears that you really believe it, how sad.

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#14 Consumer Comment

In response to Nicole FYI

AUTHOR: Linda - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, July 02, 2007

In response to Nicole.... who apparently lives in her own perfect world:

Who knows what the accuracy of the dollar amounts really is? The point is...DHS or CPS, is cashing in on our children! I have been caring for my 2 grandchildren for awhile now as kinship foster parent and have yet to receive financial help from DHS! So where the hell is that money going? They don't help with day care because I don't work 20 hrs. a week. I haven't even gotten a clothes voucher from them and I have few clothes for boys.

And NO! There was no good reason for DHS to take these kids! I as a grandparent would be the first to see that they were removed from the home if I had even the slightest thought that they were in danger. They were happy well adjusted boys until DHS stepped in. Now they are totally confused and will probably need therapy!

And little missy... let me tell you something else.... if they took your child.... and don't think they can't..... yes! you would be posting online! You would be trying every avenue you could to get your story out in hopes someone would help you combat this intolorable injustice!!!

So go back to your perfect world and put that in your pipe and smoke it!

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FYI

AUTHOR: Nicole - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, October 22, 2006

17 Trillion dollars is the wrong figure. Our national budget is only 2.4 Trillion dollars a year. Are you saying we went 15 Trillion dollars OVER budget (actually more because we would have to find money for schools, wages for politicians, and everything else we waste money on)? Are you seriously claiming that?

FYI that would equal roughly:

$340 Billion per state
$3.4 Billion per CITY (given 100 cities per state)
$226.66 Million per agency (given 15 DSHS agencies per city)
$2.26 Million per social worker (given 100 workers per agency)


Do you really think that is an accurate number? It has been posted all of this board and all over the 'net. But no proof has been given. If you do your research, you will find: there are not BONUSES (the only money handed out goes to foster parents to help care for the child and that is a VERY small amount), although some children are removed from homes where they could have stayed, there is a reason CPS was called. There is a reason they felt the child should be removed. You have options of getting your child back.

Drop the "everyone is out to bully me" routine. If someone took my child from me, I would not be here posting about it online. I would be out raising hell until I proved myself to me a good and stable mother. But, then again, they would not take my child from me.

As for beating up on the foster parents (as many of these posts do), yes there are bad ones out there. But of the thousands of children saved each year from an abusive mother, father, relative, or situation, I would say less than 1 percent end up in a bad foster home. When those foster homes are discovered (and they are discovered) they are shut down and children are moved. I would rather give a child a 99 percent chance of a good home than a guaranteed chance of being hurt at their current home.

Again, I know some kids are wrongfully removed. But I just want people to quit pretending everyone is out to get them. That is not the case. Social workers really are trying to do what is best for the child. And the court ultimately decides. But, I guess the judge is out to get you too?

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SAVE another family! CALL your Congressmen/wormen about the ASFA. - DHS abuse and neglect PROMOTED by the ASFA is going on all across our country

AUTHOR: L. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Saturday, October 21, 2006

After you read this report, call your elected representatives in Washing D.C. office. Ask them to rescind the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997 to protect our future generation FROM the Department of Human Services and Save our Social Security Fund (FICA Taxes).

One of the problems with DHS caseworkers is that they have been given a case to follow up on. They need some sort of PROOF that they've investigated the case so they can 'earn' their pay. SO, they take the child into custody, THEN, the COURT holds a 'Show Cause Hearing' to see if the DHS caseworker found an excuse that is good enough to keep the child or children in custody.

REMEMBER THE ASFA AWARDS COURTS BONUS MONEY FOR SPEEDING ADOPTIONS! I understand THAT money is used to supplement the Court's retirement system for judges.

DHS abuse and neglect PROMOTED by the ASFA is going on all across our country. If DHS agencies and courts were given Bonus Money to try to help parents and children, these things wouldn't be going on nearly as much. But alas, DHS and the Courts get Bonus Money from the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997 ONLY if they can find some way to keep the child in custody, find a way to take all parenting rights away and find a family willing to help DHS do all these things to the children and their parents SO THEY CAN BE ADOPTED. Some folks call it TRAFFICKING CHILDREN, SELLING CHILDREN or KIDNAPPING CHILDREN. It's ALL THREE! IT'S BONUS MONEY! It's supported by the U.S. Congress and our President!

When people contact DHS to see if they have classes to try to help young parents learn how to better care for their child, they're told, "We don't have parenting classes! You need to move out of the house, take your children with you and get a divorce OR you'll be charged with depriving your children." THEY WILL NOT HELP PARENTS!

When a parent applies for help with paying their utilities or food, they take their application, accuse them of lying on the form and then send the parent to churches that have benevolent funds, clothes and food to help the family. They WILL NOT help a family unless they think they will eventually be able to take the children into custody, have them declared as deprived and emotionally disturbed and remove the parents' rights so they can adopt them for BONUS MONEY!

People, you need to read the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997. It GIVES DHS agencies $4,000-6,000 for each child they adopt once they meet their 'mean' adoption rate. DHS supervisors, managers and agency directors first priority is to meet the 'mean' adoption rate each year so they can be assured to get the Bonus Money. Once they MEET their 'mean' adoption rate each year, it gravy from then on. If the child is twelve years old, they get an additional $10,000.

I'm sure there are a FEW children who need to be removed from the home but they NEED to be placed with people they're familiar with ... grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins, neighbors, daycare centers the home of one of their friends TEMPORARILY. That is NOT done in Oklahoma! Oh, they ACT like they try to place the child with a member of the extended family but it's a joke.

I find it VERY strange that DHS provides all kinds of help to foster parents and adoptive parents but if the parent asks for help, they're told to get a divorce!

What is the REAL responsibility of DHS in relating to families and children? They farm their responsibilities out to churches and contractors. What are they doing with the money they're given through their budget to help families?

If all the liars were to leave DHS employment, they wouldn't have anyone available to investigate cases that people report. Of course, they'd hire a contractor to do the work for them. BUT, if they reported the home was fine and the children were OK, they would NOT be sent additional cases.

To get the education required to be a DHS caseworker, you MUST take courses that teach you how to fabricate (LIE). They're usually called Child Psychology or Interpersonal Communication or Interpersonal Relationships. I KNOW THAT'S TRUE! I've had some of the training myself! They're taught how to second guess what the person is saying or doing rather than believe what they're saying. I KNOW there are classes they COULD take to help the communicate with families and children. I've been to some of those classes too. They're usually Family Relationships and Marriage Relationships.

Every DHS case I've heard of or been associated with through church activities is FULL of lies! They exaggerate things that are negative. If the morning newspaper is on the floor, the house is filthy! When the worker looks in the refrigerator, they report something wrong with it. If they see a pet in the house, they say there was pet hair all on the carpet and/or furniture or the children had scratches from petting the animal carelessly. If a child was playing in the yard and was called in seen wearing play clothes, they're reported as being filty or wearing clothes too tight or too loose. There is NO way you can please a lying DHS caseworker when they're determined to take a child into custody! It's their JOB!

When I worked in the local Shelter, I was overwhelmed by the little children crying for their parents or grandparents. I've held them in my arms and tried to comfort them or try to help them focus their attention to a NEW toy or a NEW book. It's a VERY sad situation. WHY DOESN'T DHS JUST SIMPLY FIND A MEMBER OF THE CHILD'S FAMILY FOR THEM TO STAY WITH while they're proceeding with trumped up charges? Oh, YES! It's not in the interest of what is BEST for DHS! What's BEST for the DHS is to find a non-biological family for the child to stay with and GET ATTACHED TO while they process actions to remove ALL contact with the family. Of course that's NOT what the law says but that's what is going on.

The LAW says DHS places children in the following priority: (1) with parent(s), (2) with grandparent(s), (3) with another member of the biological family or the last resort ... a non-biological foster home. The NON-biological family relies on information given them by the DHS caseworker who lied to get the children into custody in the first place. They're trained liars. Very few foster parents know they're dealing with liars! They're forced to sign GAG ORDERS so they can't tell you what the worker told them about the children. If they don't agree with EVERYTHING the DHS caseworker suggests, the child will be moved.

Some foster homes are in the business solely for the MONEY. Some foster parents think they're helping the child. The truth is, they're actually helping DHS permanently damage EVERY child they take into custody. The children have nobody who can protect them. The parents can't protect their child. The foster parents can't protect the child from lying DHS caseworkers.

Poor child! The child is so frustrated because he has nothing going right in his life! He/she kicks the pets, tears up toys, destroys books, and all sorts of things demonstrating he's unhappy with what's going on in his/her life. The DHS caseworker tells the foster parent that it's because he/she was never taught things at home. They KNOW it's because they've lost everything DEAR to them but lying DHS worker will NOT tell the foster parents that the reason the child acts the way he/she does. Of course if the foster parent has a good teacher for the PATH training, they'll tell them to expect those reactions from the child.

As for you people who defend what DHS is doing, you KNOW my report is exactly right! I KNOW it's true because I've worked for DHS. Those who post notes in the case files are supposed to critique what the child did or didn't do during their shift. Most of the critiquing is negative IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT IS BEST FOR KEEPING THEIR JOB!

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#11 Author of original report

Child is home.

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, October 09, 2006

It's going to be a wonderful holiday.

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#10 Author of original report

OKDHS Kidnapped our child Oklahoma City Oklahoma

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, June 28, 2006

In response to most recent rebuttal,
We are educated in your laws. CPS and the police do not have a free pass to ANY home or building without permission.

The CPS worker did not identify herself, nor did she say why she was on the property. She also did not say she was a CPS worker. Clueless. Nothing. She just began shouting, demanding.
Wife does not carry ID on her. she went outside to see what was the banging on the door, not expecting anyone to ask her ID.

Wife told the CPS worker to wait a moment while she goes inside to get her ID. The worker only got angrier and threatened her.

Read and study Calabretta vs Floyd, Ca. We found out days later who that CPS worker was. Asserting your rights does reflect that the home is stable. An open door policy is dangerous and
invites rape and robbery, especially in your home. That is what locks are for.

There was no complaint on file, only a crank call
from the snooping Tulsa ex-social worker. We never had any trouble before that. A stable family and home does not suddenly change into the CPS worker's false claim. Our family and home have always been stable and welcoming any friends and guests. Our job requires hospitality.
The law and city ordinances prohibit trespassing. C

PS and the police must obey all laws. No cause means no cause.

The police are better qualified and trained than CPS.

The CPS director is on record admitting they never had a complaint at all. The malicous dv allegation was never mentioned in court. No evidence of depravity, neglect or abuse ever mentioned in court. Just the encounter with the
CPS worker and the police.

Due to investigations, we may not need any court at all. We'll see.

CPS will think twice before they try to instigate another plot.

Coercion and intimidation are unlawful.
Naivitae is wreckless, so secure your families and homes with God, love, service and common sense.

If you have not experienced any of this, then
please do not prejuge and accuse or conclude without any knowledge or understanding of the events and the law.

Law is based on equality and fairness to all people all ages and race.

We love America and know America is better than that going on.

Again, God bless families worldwide.

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Aren't there laws in place?

AUTHOR: Laura - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 27, 2006

I do believe there are laws in place to protect the children. I have heard this case, and I do not understand the following:

one: Why would a CPS worker "show up at your house" to begin with? Was there a report filed by someone?

two: Why was your wife so intent on not complying with the CPS worker (over a lousy ID) if she had nothing to hide? (was her "pride" more important than keeping her son in a "stable" environment?)

three: Why would you not let the police into your home, just to "look around" if you again had nothing to hide?

If CPS showed up at my door and asked me for my driver's license, I would gladly show it. If they left and came back with a police officer, (which they would not have to do to begin with because you just let them in and look around) then I would let the police officer into my home.

Local story: My 12 yr old girl was sunbathing outside one day in our yard with one of her friends. (a neighbor girl about the same age) My daughter came inside to get a drink of water, when she returned to the yard the other girl was gone. I asked my daughter questions, and then launched a community search right away with all neighbors. I immediately called the police. The police came to our community and started filing the report. They immediately asked to search my home, (as my yard was the last place she was seen) I let them in gladly (because I had NOTHING to hide) They searched closets under beds, and everything. (this did not bother me, as I was concerned about where the neighbor girl was, and understood they had to eliminate me as a "suspect") They left my house and continued their search and talking with neighbors. About an hour later, after our community was in an uproar and a search had been launched.. her mother came driving up with her daugther (the one missing) in her car. Her mother (a neighbor) had decided to leave, and picked up her child on the way to the store, and forgot to tell me, or any adult around. (just happened to be the exact same time my daughter had come into the house for a drink of water, or she would have known her mother picked her up)

It's all a matter of having nothing to hide. You would not open the door and let the police come in and look at your son, but you would take your son to the window to let the officer see him? Why? You yourself, by your own actions and non compliance instigated the result.

I am sorry for your son, as I am certain it is difficult for a child to be displaced from a home they know, (even if not a good home) but I do hope the people taking care of him are well educated, responsible people who went into the field for the protection of the children.

IF in fact that agency IS "kidnapping" children, I'll just bet you as an American citizen who has "done no wrong" can support your no wrong doings in a court of law, and your child can be placed back with you shortly.

Best of luck-

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OKDHS - CPS Kidnapped our child Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, June 27, 2006

In response to a recent rebuttal, as foreigners and motel managers, we have a tradition of
residing in the manager's suite as our neighbors also do. The familie's children attend school and church. The Family is sacred.

We do not tolerate abuse, deprevity or neglect. Children are our future leaders, and God is always the center of our families.

The tipster in our case is an american former social worker from Tulsa DHS whom disliked our child living at a motel.

We always treated customers fair and honest. No-one ever complained about our families. We are deeply religous people and uphold family values. We are sad to hear about your divorce and family breakups.

The CPS worker started a fight with us,
and was asked to leave or be arrested. This is private property.

If a person dose not identify themself and makes trouble, they must leave, no questions asked.

Instead of complying, the CPS worker chose to trespass and bring the police. When the CPS
worker returned repeatedly with the police during the week, the police told her every time there is no cause to enter. The CPS worker then went to a juvenile Judge and said there is domestic violence in the home. HOW SHOCKING! The police knew she was lying, but had to follow her prejurious Writ.

If a loving and devout and even foriegn family resists a CPS worker's Socio-Psychopathic demands, then all hell breaks loose.

The CPS worker and the police back each other to avoid a LAWSUIT in which they must OBLITERATE the family through lies.

The time is coming when a CPS worker will be arrested for repeatedly retunring with the police,ei; PUBLIC NUICENCE. Watch.

God bless all of you loving and devoted and deeply religous families. Stick together and don't let CPS or the KANGAROO juvenile courts get away with FRIVOLOUS AND PREJURIOUS cases.
Keep reporting them to the FBI, DOJ, House Ways and Means Commitee and Congress. Do your homework, RESEARCH the LAWS and study them and take them to heart. ASSERT YOUR RIGHTS IN
COURT, you and your children, your entire family share equal rights under your US Constitution and Bill Of Rights and your State Constitution. Read them. The Juvenile courts and CPS
fear people who assert thier rights, they are extra cautious when confronted by THE REAL LAWS, the federal laws US Codes.

CPS expects to be protected by STATE STATUTES which violate Federal Law due to the overwelming LOBBYING AND BRIBERY OF CONGRESS MEMBERS FOR THIER VOTE TO BYPASS AND DISREGARD US CODES. The Social Services rely on FEDERAL FUNDING. Research
the Adoption Safe Families Act of 1997. Study it. The Juvienile courts and CPS get paid to keep children as HOSTAGES. Children who have NEVER been maltreated and are thriving in thier homes, are taken everyday and held hostage, simply because a family ASSERTED THIER RIGHTS AT THIER HOME, REFUSING TO RELINQUISH THEIR PRIVACY. CPS has no right to disregard the police by running off to a judge and lying to get her way by RETALIATION.

So many innocent families are devistated by such AGGRESSION. The yes-man attitude in court will be the decline of families, and the ENRICHMENT of the corrupt system. INVEIGELMENT will put families at risk. The more families assert thier rights and most importantly thier GOD GIVEN INHERENT RIGHTS, which by the way ARE PROTECTED by your US FEDERAL AND STATE CODES. Read them.
Back when there was no intrenet, CPS and the juvenile courts could hide 24/7. God created the intrenet to expose evil and allow all good people to join together and educate the world about TRUTH. CPS and the juvinile courts have been found out, caught in the act of marketing corruption through HOSTAGING.

No human is for sale under God. The public is at risk with CPS. More children have died in CPS custody than at thier home. FACT.

CPS and the juvenile courts hide the numbers and the deaths, listing many of them as runaways. LIES.

CPS IGNORES REAL ABUSE, and abuses, deprives non-abused children.HYPOCRICY. After the children are held hostage and deprived they are delared disabled so they can be used to collect SSI AND MEDICARE for their new disabilty for the first time in thier preveously thriving life. HOW CRUEL! A once normal child suddenly is abnormal.
AMAZING AND SHOCKING! Yes the money will be requested in court.

Funny how the hard working parents never were told by anyone, anywhere about such an amazingly unpercivable condition.WOW!

It should be clear to all who read and study and attend the hearings as we have, how the system is RIGGED. PROVE US WRONG!

Actually CPS says PROVE US WRONG, every hearing. CPS needs no proof, simply thier own word. How is it accepted as truth when their words are not a desrpiction of the actual circumstances or events known by the family and the police. The police admitted they do not read a Writ, just enforce the Writ. DUH!

Maybe the Writ is a CPS worker shopping list. Well,maybe.
The no questions asked approach is not reasonable when there is a menacing CPS worker who dosen't get it. The police are trained to recognize trouble and illegal activity. CPS WORKERS HAVE NO TRAINING IN LAW ENFORCMENT. CPS workers cannot see through walls and therefore cannot mysterously claim anything.

The CPS worker, I have the right, attitude is NOT IN LAWS. The police have the responsibility to inform the CPS worker to stay away since there is no cause, especially when the police
know by training that there is no problem. The CPS worker just wants her way, and will even PREVOKE the police to break the LAWS.

Families are helpless against such aggression. CPS and the police will work together to ensure that they are right and do not get sued. Even if thier stories change, they will be protected by the DA, the juvenile judge and Social Services.
We did threaten to sue and perhaps they are vengeful, but God can deliver all who assert THE REAL TRUTH. Many empires have fallen, and during thier regimes innocent families were rounded
up, confined and deprived.

It is sad to know the USA also did this, and now although the acts are done overseas, your own soil is not even safe to provide protection you are entitled.

God's protection is relient on human responsibility. ALL people are entitled to live and thrive in the home of their choosing,
without outside intrusion from ANYONE. Your Constitution says.

If the State Social Services greed for federal funding, while witholding funds and services for needy families is not stopped, then there will be no financial or socially stable future for
families of all status. Petition Congress to establish and enforce MENACE AND NUICENCE LAWS to protect families everywhere.

Yes CPS is a menace and nuisance whom obliterates more families than juvenile courts. The judge has the last word in juvenile court. Make sure you are worthy, then by all means assert your God given inherent rights and your civil rights, ask the judge make the court aware of and record your HUMAN RIGHTS assrtion.

Get a copy of the record and secure it, you may need it later. Make sure the court keeps thier word to provide anything the law requires INCLUDING INTERPRETERS. REPORT ANY CANCELATION.
THEY MUST PROVIDE VISITATION WHEN IT IS POSSIBLE AND RESONABLE.

Even if your attorney dose not object in court, if you are sure or suspect wrongdoing, O B J E C T ON RECORD. The appellate court will praise and reward your effort. It is a serious matter
to object so the court can give some power to the people.

So read and study the LAW US Federal codes and the State codes.

EVERY State Constitution says, The United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land, That means that FEDERAL STATUTES TRUMP ALL STATE STATUTES. CPS and Social Services think just
the opposite, HOW WRONG THEY ARE!

Keep the US Constitution, State Constitution and Bill Of Rights close for any ocrurrence.

Thanks to all families whom are standing up in court for thier families. It is highly commendable before God and humanity to challange false and corrupt systems and people whom act without conscience, morals or shame. We shall overcome together as one. God bless you dearly, families centered on God and Truth.

David - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

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#7 Consumer Comment

Not All True

AUTHOR: Shon - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Sunday, June 18, 2006

The case workers at DHS have other things to. By law, they are required to remove the children if they feel the children are in danger.

You, the parents, will then get a "show cause" hearing in which the social worker must prove her case to the court in order for the child/ren to remain in custody.

If you in fact did nothing wrong and the accusations are false, then the children are returned home immediately. If you are proven not to be the best place for the children (at that time), then the children will remain in protective custody, you will be put on a "treatment plan" and if you work it, then you get your kids back.

Its that simple. Heck, even if you don't work it that well, you still get your kids back. DHS will return your children as long as you meet the MINIMAL requirements.

To be honest, many kids are returned home who don't need to be returned. That's why there is a vicious cycle of kids being in and out of the system. The parents are given chance after chance after chance to reform. In all honesty, they are given too many chances.

I think it should be called Parent Protective Services instead of Child Protective Services. If your children were removed from your home and remained in custody after your show cause hearing, then that's where they need to be. If you want them home, then straighten your act up and do what is best for your kids.

By the way, DHS has very little say about what happens to the kids. There are many other entities involved like a judge, a prosecutor, an attorney for the child, and, oh yeah, LAWS!! You need to spend your time getting your life together. And just in case your wondering, I'm not a judge, a prosecutor, an attorney, or a parent who has neglected or abused my child. I'm just someone who knows a lot about the system and how things work.

The only people who are going to side with your are the people who have also have their kids taken, or their "leave it to beaver" friend has had their kids taken.

If you love your kids, straighten your life out.

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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Class Action Lawsuit

AUTHOR: Dana - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, April 25, 2006

The only way to get this agency under control is for all of the defamed, slandered and misjudged families to get together and file a class action lawsuit on this corrupt, out of control monster.

My child was kidnapped back in June of 2005, and I see now the only way I am going to get him back is to sue this agency for child endangerment,duress, and emotional damage; plus I was told this by the Ret.Choctaw Attorney General; DHS needs sueing and reforming.

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David, How About a Protection Order?

AUTHOR: L. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 21, 2006

DHS/CPS is out of control in Oklahoma! Workers seem to feel that their primary responsibility is to remove children from homes for any reason they can dream up, lie to judges, destroy marriages and emotionally disable every little child they can access. They lie because they say they have too many cases and not enough caseworkers. THAT'S A LIE!

David, be award that when your child is in any public school, it's EASY for them to be taken into DHS custody. Schools just hand kids over to DHS.

Just like the ten-year-old girl who was taken from the Harrah Public Schools recently. The DHS worker came to the school and asked for a child. The child was led to believe that her daddy had a serious diabetic attack and her mother was not able leave his side and come get her. They proudly took the child into DHS custody. The parents had to fight to get her returned. OKDHS/CPS admitted that they had taken the wrong child into custody. Admission of abusing a child is no excuse for what they did to that little girl. They need to STOP abusing and neglecting our children. We must find ways to protect our children FROM DHS abuse and neglect! Home Schools or private schools is the best choice for educating children. At least home schools and private schools will TRY to protect the child from DHS. Public schools will NOT protect a child from DHS abusers and neglecters!

WHY do schools let DHS take our children without notifying parents or guardians? They have no choice UNLESS you file legal papers requiring that they contact you personally before the DHS worker OR anyone affiliated with DHS even says one word to your child. OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM DHS/CPS! Children can't protect themselves! Parents and/or guardians will have to protect them.

David, caseworkers and supervisors are under extremely heavy pressure to remove parenting rights so they can adopt another child. They'll do anything! The federal government gives the DHS agency Bonus Money when they adopt a child. Some are adopted to relatives. Some are adopted to their own biological parent(s). Some children are adopted more than one time. It's ALL about money!

Call your Congressman at 866-220-0044. Ask the representative to read the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997. The ASFA gives DHS agencies $4,000-6,000 for each child they can adopt. If the child is twelve or older, they will be given an additional $10,000.

In October 2005, OKDHS was given more than $9.2 million dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004. In October 2005, DHS agencies across the country was given more than $17 trillion dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004.

DHS does NOT get Bonus Money if they help a family that asks for help. They only get BONUS MONEY if they can find a way to adopt a child!

It is a fact that virtually every child taken into DHS custody is immediately diagnosed as emotionally disturbed so they can be placed on SSI and have all their care expenses paid. The children are scarred for life from their abuse and neglect!

I've personally seen those little children bawl until their eyes are swollen shut when they're taken into DHS custody. It's abuse! Workers are told to turn the child's attention to another subject to get him/her to stop bawling.

The ASFA states that the Bonus Money comes, UNLIMITED, from our Social Security Fund (FICA Taxes). President Bush lowered the requirements for the DHS agency to receive Bonus Money and extended the ASFA from 2002 through 2008. Then, he announced that our Social Security Fund would be broke by 2008.

The DHS agent will say that everything they do to children and to families is in the interest of what is BEST for the child! When my son called OKDHS about parenting classes, he was told, "We don't have parenting classes! You need to move out of the house, take your children with you and get a divorce OR you'll be charged with depriving your children."

Nine months later, his parental rights were removed because he 'deprived' his children. He moved out of the house. He had previously moved the children out of the house. BUT, he went to a family therapist trying to save the marriage rather than follow through on the divorce.

His children were adopted to a NON-Biological family in March 2004. All three of their biological names were changed IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN! Both children were sexually molested in THAT adoptive home but DHS said it's OK because the parent 'counseled' the children.

DAVID, you need to find a way to protect your children from DHS/CPS. Otherwise, they'll be adopted so they can get the Bonus Money. Call your Congressman at 1-866-220-0044 to see if he can help save children from abuse and neglect by rescinding the Adoptiions and Safe Families Act of 1997.

When H.B. 3433 is passed, children will NOT be forced to testify against their parent(s) and parents will NOT be forced to testify against their child. H.B. 3433 was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary about a year ago so they can determine laws that will be affected if H.B. 3433 is passed. Ask your congressman to see if H.B. 3433 can be brought out for a vote and passed in the interest of what is BEST for children and for parents.

We MUST do something to protect our children and families FROM DHS/CPS abuse and neglect!

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David, How About a Protection Order?

AUTHOR: L. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 21, 2006

DHS/CPS is out of control in Oklahoma! Workers seem to feel that their primary responsibility is to remove children from homes for any reason they can dream up, lie to judges, destroy marriages and emotionally disable every little child they can access. They lie because they say they have too many cases and not enough caseworkers. THAT'S A LIE!

David, be award that when your child is in any public school, it's EASY for them to be taken into DHS custody. Schools just hand kids over to DHS.

Just like the ten-year-old girl who was taken from the Harrah Public Schools recently. The DHS worker came to the school and asked for a child. The child was led to believe that her daddy had a serious diabetic attack and her mother was not able leave his side and come get her. They proudly took the child into DHS custody. The parents had to fight to get her returned. OKDHS/CPS admitted that they had taken the wrong child into custody. Admission of abusing a child is no excuse for what they did to that little girl. They need to STOP abusing and neglecting our children. We must find ways to protect our children FROM DHS abuse and neglect! Home Schools or private schools is the best choice for educating children. At least home schools and private schools will TRY to protect the child from DHS. Public schools will NOT protect a child from DHS abusers and neglecters!

WHY do schools let DHS take our children without notifying parents or guardians? They have no choice UNLESS you file legal papers requiring that they contact you personally before the DHS worker OR anyone affiliated with DHS even says one word to your child. OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM DHS/CPS! Children can't protect themselves! Parents and/or guardians will have to protect them.

David, caseworkers and supervisors are under extremely heavy pressure to remove parenting rights so they can adopt another child. They'll do anything! The federal government gives the DHS agency Bonus Money when they adopt a child. Some are adopted to relatives. Some are adopted to their own biological parent(s). Some children are adopted more than one time. It's ALL about money!

Call your Congressman at 866-220-0044. Ask the representative to read the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997. The ASFA gives DHS agencies $4,000-6,000 for each child they can adopt. If the child is twelve or older, they will be given an additional $10,000.

In October 2005, OKDHS was given more than $9.2 million dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004. In October 2005, DHS agencies across the country was given more than $17 trillion dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004.

DHS does NOT get Bonus Money if they help a family that asks for help. They only get BONUS MONEY if they can find a way to adopt a child!

It is a fact that virtually every child taken into DHS custody is immediately diagnosed as emotionally disturbed so they can be placed on SSI and have all their care expenses paid. The children are scarred for life from their abuse and neglect!

I've personally seen those little children bawl until their eyes are swollen shut when they're taken into DHS custody. It's abuse! Workers are told to turn the child's attention to another subject to get him/her to stop bawling.

The ASFA states that the Bonus Money comes, UNLIMITED, from our Social Security Fund (FICA Taxes). President Bush lowered the requirements for the DHS agency to receive Bonus Money and extended the ASFA from 2002 through 2008. Then, he announced that our Social Security Fund would be broke by 2008.

The DHS agent will say that everything they do to children and to families is in the interest of what is BEST for the child! When my son called OKDHS about parenting classes, he was told, "We don't have parenting classes! You need to move out of the house, take your children with you and get a divorce OR you'll be charged with depriving your children."

Nine months later, his parental rights were removed because he 'deprived' his children. He moved out of the house. He had previously moved the children out of the house. BUT, he went to a family therapist trying to save the marriage rather than follow through on the divorce.

His children were adopted to a NON-Biological family in March 2004. All three of their biological names were changed IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN! Both children were sexually molested in THAT adoptive home but DHS said it's OK because the parent 'counseled' the children.

DAVID, you need to find a way to protect your children from DHS/CPS. Otherwise, they'll be adopted so they can get the Bonus Money. Call your Congressman at 1-866-220-0044 to see if he can help save children from abuse and neglect by rescinding the Adoptiions and Safe Families Act of 1997.

When H.B. 3433 is passed, children will NOT be forced to testify against their parent(s) and parents will NOT be forced to testify against their child. H.B. 3433 was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary about a year ago so they can determine laws that will be affected if H.B. 3433 is passed. Ask your congressman to see if H.B. 3433 can be brought out for a vote and passed in the interest of what is BEST for children and for parents.

We MUST do something to protect our children and families FROM DHS/CPS abuse and neglect!

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David, How About a Protection Order?

AUTHOR: L. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 21, 2006

DHS/CPS is out of control in Oklahoma! Workers seem to feel that their primary responsibility is to remove children from homes for any reason they can dream up, lie to judges, destroy marriages and emotionally disable every little child they can access. They lie because they say they have too many cases and not enough caseworkers. THAT'S A LIE!

David, be award that when your child is in any public school, it's EASY for them to be taken into DHS custody. Schools just hand kids over to DHS.

Just like the ten-year-old girl who was taken from the Harrah Public Schools recently. The DHS worker came to the school and asked for a child. The child was led to believe that her daddy had a serious diabetic attack and her mother was not able leave his side and come get her. They proudly took the child into DHS custody. The parents had to fight to get her returned. OKDHS/CPS admitted that they had taken the wrong child into custody. Admission of abusing a child is no excuse for what they did to that little girl. They need to STOP abusing and neglecting our children. We must find ways to protect our children FROM DHS abuse and neglect! Home Schools or private schools is the best choice for educating children. At least home schools and private schools will TRY to protect the child from DHS. Public schools will NOT protect a child from DHS abusers and neglecters!

WHY do schools let DHS take our children without notifying parents or guardians? They have no choice UNLESS you file legal papers requiring that they contact you personally before the DHS worker OR anyone affiliated with DHS even says one word to your child. OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM DHS/CPS! Children can't protect themselves! Parents and/or guardians will have to protect them.

David, caseworkers and supervisors are under extremely heavy pressure to remove parenting rights so they can adopt another child. They'll do anything! The federal government gives the DHS agency Bonus Money when they adopt a child. Some are adopted to relatives. Some are adopted to their own biological parent(s). Some children are adopted more than one time. It's ALL about money!

Call your Congressman at 866-220-0044. Ask the representative to read the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997. The ASFA gives DHS agencies $4,000-6,000 for each child they can adopt. If the child is twelve or older, they will be given an additional $10,000.

In October 2005, OKDHS was given more than $9.2 million dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004. In October 2005, DHS agencies across the country was given more than $17 trillion dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004.

DHS does NOT get Bonus Money if they help a family that asks for help. They only get BONUS MONEY if they can find a way to adopt a child!

It is a fact that virtually every child taken into DHS custody is immediately diagnosed as emotionally disturbed so they can be placed on SSI and have all their care expenses paid. The children are scarred for life from their abuse and neglect!

I've personally seen those little children bawl until their eyes are swollen shut when they're taken into DHS custody. It's abuse! Workers are told to turn the child's attention to another subject to get him/her to stop bawling.

The ASFA states that the Bonus Money comes, UNLIMITED, from our Social Security Fund (FICA Taxes). President Bush lowered the requirements for the DHS agency to receive Bonus Money and extended the ASFA from 2002 through 2008. Then, he announced that our Social Security Fund would be broke by 2008.

The DHS agent will say that everything they do to children and to families is in the interest of what is BEST for the child! When my son called OKDHS about parenting classes, he was told, "We don't have parenting classes! You need to move out of the house, take your children with you and get a divorce OR you'll be charged with depriving your children."

Nine months later, his parental rights were removed because he 'deprived' his children. He moved out of the house. He had previously moved the children out of the house. BUT, he went to a family therapist trying to save the marriage rather than follow through on the divorce.

His children were adopted to a NON-Biological family in March 2004. All three of their biological names were changed IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN! Both children were sexually molested in THAT adoptive home but DHS said it's OK because the parent 'counseled' the children.

DAVID, you need to find a way to protect your children from DHS/CPS. Otherwise, they'll be adopted so they can get the Bonus Money. Call your Congressman at 1-866-220-0044 to see if he can help save children from abuse and neglect by rescinding the Adoptiions and Safe Families Act of 1997.

When H.B. 3433 is passed, children will NOT be forced to testify against their parent(s) and parents will NOT be forced to testify against their child. H.B. 3433 was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary about a year ago so they can determine laws that will be affected if H.B. 3433 is passed. Ask your congressman to see if H.B. 3433 can be brought out for a vote and passed in the interest of what is BEST for children and for parents.

We MUST do something to protect our children and families FROM DHS/CPS abuse and neglect!

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David, How About a Protection Order?

AUTHOR: L. - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 21, 2006

DHS/CPS is out of control in Oklahoma! Workers seem to feel that their primary responsibility is to remove children from homes for any reason they can dream up, lie to judges, destroy marriages and emotionally disable every little child they can access. They lie because they say they have too many cases and not enough caseworkers. THAT'S A LIE!

David, be award that when your child is in any public school, it's EASY for them to be taken into DHS custody. Schools just hand kids over to DHS.

Just like the ten-year-old girl who was taken from the Harrah Public Schools recently. The DHS worker came to the school and asked for a child. The child was led to believe that her daddy had a serious diabetic attack and her mother was not able leave his side and come get her. They proudly took the child into DHS custody. The parents had to fight to get her returned. OKDHS/CPS admitted that they had taken the wrong child into custody. Admission of abusing a child is no excuse for what they did to that little girl. They need to STOP abusing and neglecting our children. We must find ways to protect our children FROM DHS abuse and neglect! Home Schools or private schools is the best choice for educating children. At least home schools and private schools will TRY to protect the child from DHS. Public schools will NOT protect a child from DHS abusers and neglecters!

WHY do schools let DHS take our children without notifying parents or guardians? They have no choice UNLESS you file legal papers requiring that they contact you personally before the DHS worker OR anyone affiliated with DHS even says one word to your child. OUR CHILDREN NEED TO BE PROTECTED FROM DHS/CPS! Children can't protect themselves! Parents and/or guardians will have to protect them.

David, caseworkers and supervisors are under extremely heavy pressure to remove parenting rights so they can adopt another child. They'll do anything! The federal government gives the DHS agency Bonus Money when they adopt a child. Some are adopted to relatives. Some are adopted to their own biological parent(s). Some children are adopted more than one time. It's ALL about money!

Call your Congressman at 866-220-0044. Ask the representative to read the Adoptions and Safe Families Act of 1997. The ASFA gives DHS agencies $4,000-6,000 for each child they can adopt. If the child is twelve or older, they will be given an additional $10,000.

In October 2005, OKDHS was given more than $9.2 million dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004. In October 2005, DHS agencies across the country was given more than $17 trillion dollars for adoptions finalized in 2004.

DHS does NOT get Bonus Money if they help a family that asks for help. They only get BONUS MONEY if they can find a way to adopt a child!

It is a fact that virtually every child taken into DHS custody is immediately diagnosed as emotionally disturbed so they can be placed on SSI and have all their care expenses paid. The children are scarred for life from their abuse and neglect!

I've personally seen those little children bawl until their eyes are swollen shut when they're taken into DHS custody. It's abuse! Workers are told to turn the child's attention to another subject to get him/her to stop bawling.

The ASFA states that the Bonus Money comes, UNLIMITED, from our Social Security Fund (FICA Taxes). President Bush lowered the requirements for the DHS agency to receive Bonus Money and extended the ASFA from 2002 through 2008. Then, he announced that our Social Security Fund would be broke by 2008.

The DHS agent will say that everything they do to children and to families is in the interest of what is BEST for the child! When my son called OKDHS about parenting classes, he was told, "We don't have parenting classes! You need to move out of the house, take your children with you and get a divorce OR you'll be charged with depriving your children."

Nine months later, his parental rights were removed because he 'deprived' his children. He moved out of the house. He had previously moved the children out of the house. BUT, he went to a family therapist trying to save the marriage rather than follow through on the divorce.

His children were adopted to a NON-Biological family in March 2004. All three of their biological names were changed IN THE INTEREST OF WHAT WAS BEST FOR THE CHILDREN! Both children were sexually molested in THAT adoptive home but DHS said it's OK because the parent 'counseled' the children.

DAVID, you need to find a way to protect your children from DHS/CPS. Otherwise, they'll be adopted so they can get the Bonus Money. Call your Congressman at 1-866-220-0044 to see if he can help save children from abuse and neglect by rescinding the Adoptiions and Safe Families Act of 1997.

When H.B. 3433 is passed, children will NOT be forced to testify against their parent(s) and parents will NOT be forced to testify against their child. H.B. 3433 was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary about a year ago so they can determine laws that will be affected if H.B. 3433 is passed. Ask your congressman to see if H.B. 3433 can be brought out for a vote and passed in the interest of what is BEST for children and for parents.

We MUST do something to protect our children and families FROM DHS/CPS abuse and neglect!

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AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Friday, April 14, 2006

i am Sorry this has happend to you. i also know of DHS being rude and dishonest! they did this to my good friends about 3 years ago, showed up at there home saying a Complaint was filed about Child abuse and dirty conditions. after the case worker entered the Home she walked about 10 feet and said Yep this house is Filthy! i was over there that day sitting on the couch observing this and her bad attitude and Lies. then she asked who i was i said good friend of 10 years (WHATS THE PROBLEM) she says have you seen them beat there childen or abuse them? i said no, Her Response was your lieing to protect them. (WHAT THE HELL)

after 10 minutes of her rude attitude and lies i decided i wanted to leave, when getting my kids ready she states looks like your kids are in bad health also (OHH MY GOD) i said my girls get excellent care and a nice home. well after she left my friend contacted a attorney, about 4 days later the lady showed up with a Court Order for removal of her kids.

on the first court appearance the DHS case worker had falsified her story. then i was called to speak in my friends behalf i told them how clean the house was and i never seen any type of abuse! this case worker flat out called me a liar in court and said i was protecting my friends and there kids.

well this went on for sevral months. but on the 4th court appearance the Judge kind of knew she was liening becuase her story changed (TWICE) and she could not remember what she first said in the first court appearance..

And this case worker is from n.w 50th and classen office. but in the end my friends got there kids back and it was proven in court she was lieing and she falsified her reports.

DHS is full of lies and dishonest workers, they say they are for the childen (YEA RIGHT) if they was for the safty for the kids why do they lie and falsifie there reports..

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