Complaint Review: Panther Ii Transportation - Seville Ohio
- Panther Ii Transportation 4940 Panther Parkway Seville, Ohio U.S.A.
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Panther Ii Transportation ripoff not getting paid watch out they'll lie to you no hometime Seville Ohio
*Consumer Suggestion: Some clarification for SARAH on a few things, I hope this helps
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Overall, Panther ii is a pretty good company. But, before you go spending your own out-of-pocket money to work here, please know what you're getting into. First off, i can't speak for an actual owner-operator, but I'm sure it's pretty much the same.
I work for an owner operator, and fortunately got on with a good one, I've heard bad stories about not getting paid from some people. My owner pays me fine, but Panther ii has some pretty stupid and cheating practices. If you don't have your bills in TripPak by thursday, there's a chance it wont reach them by Monday cut off time. so they say fax it. I faxed my bills, recieved confirmation, and then it wasn't on my check which you have to wait two weeks to get! What a scam! They say they've never recieved it. You can't just call and find out info because you get transferred here and then there, and pretty soon you just keep ending up 5th in line on the phone, using all your cell minutes, and hanging up or leaving endless messages.
Also, you call to get on the hometime board. They say you have priority getting loads headed home. After we were out for three weeks, we decided we needed a break. We asked three times before successfully getting even "put in the system" that we wanted hometime. And then every load we were sent was to an opposite side of the U.S. then home. While we were at home, our in service percentage went way down. From the 90's to the 60's in 4 days! And they use those percentages to give you loads by. They don't want you going home!
Also, in case you're going to work for an owner...be prepared for the expenses you will incur. They don't tell you this before you're approved for orientation, (notice I didn't say hireable) They tell you you're approved, but when you get there, they'll redo all paperwork and checks and you might NOT make it. You will have to pay all expenses such as faxes to send in paperwork, showers, no reimbursements for things like companies reimburse you for. You might have to pay your way to orientation...depends on owner. Be Careful!!! You will not recieve 1st paycheck for probably 3 weeks. You will get paid weekly after the 1st one, but if you spend lots of money getting to orientation and all, you might be dead broke before you get paid. And Canada is a MUST!!! IT costs lots of money to go there (tolls, faxing paperwork) and even though it says NO FORCED DISPATCH, if you turn down loads you're acceptance rate will go down. That is also used to get you loads. Catch 22 situation.
You are told you can train your spouse for free, but you can't let them drive on the road. You have to train in a parking lot....unless you get an owner with an automatic, that's kinda hard to do....just be careful in making your decision to work here. Do not go into it in the hole financially. Make sure you have money to hold you over, and don't be behind on your bills going into it. Make copies of everything, try and call about things. They don't volunteer information, probably so everyone doesn't know how to operate effectively and they can rip you off!
It's not all bad, but beware of the bad, and weigh your decision!
Sarah
tulsa, Oklahoma
U.S.A.
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#1 Consumer Suggestion
Some clarification for SARAH on a few things, I hope this helps
AUTHOR: Steve [Not A Lawyer] - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 31, 2007
Sarah,
This whole operation is a scam, and I will explain why. You are being cheated.
I am fully aware of the Panther II scam and how it operates. They are actually violating the law both in labor laws and IRS code. Here's how.
I know they tell you that you are an "Independent Contractor". Well, this is simply NOT true. As per both LABOR LAWS and IRS code, there are qualifications you must meet legally to be an independent contractor.
The common qualification of both is that you have a "substantial investment" in the business AND have the ability to "suffer financial loss" OTHER than earnings. You DO NOT meet this criteria under either standard as a Panther II lease driver.
In order to TRULY be an "owner operator" a person must own por have control over the equipment and have his/her own operating authority. Only then are you truly an OWNER OPERATOR.
Here is the scam. WHO is paying your UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, WORKMANS COMP INSURANCE and SS MATCHING? Here is the answer, NOT Panther II or the "Truck Owner". They get out of this [they think] by calling you an independent contractor.
AND, if you are not paying these things for yourself, you are operating illegally. Both the state and federal government can prosecute you and get back payments from you.
Here is what you should do immediately. Go to the IRS website and download/print out the form: "Determination of Worker Status". Fill it out truthfully, make a copy for your records, and mail in the original. I can guarantee they will come back with a determination that you are an EMPLOYEE. therefore, you are being ripped off.
Another determining factor is WHO dictates the use of your time. If they in any way control your time, you are an employee.
Another factor is that to truly be an independent contractor, you must be able to offer your services to anyone else you choose. but under the contract between Panther II and the truck owner, you cannot do this.
Therefore, You ARE NOT an independent contractor. You ARE an EMPLOYEE who is being cheated out of workmans comp insurance, unemployment insurance and SS matching payments.
This is how the scam works.
Panther II is nothing more than a glorified broker, and your truck owner is nothing more than an investor.
I have owned and operated my own trucking business and have also been a company driver and also a lease driver. I know this business inside out. I can absolutely guarantee you what I am telling you is factual.
You are a LEASE DRIVER as defined by the FMCSA and are an employee as described by both IRS code and USDOL laws.
If you are thinking you are an independent contractor, you are fooling yourself. And YOU are responsible for paying your own self employment taxes, etc. Failure to do so is CRIMINAL. You can be prosecuted.
RUN FAST from the Panther II scam!


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