PSI Seminars rip-off Salt Lake Nationwide

I have taken the Basic Seminar and none of that was cult like or a brainwash. It's all about the individual, you get to take a look at yourself; how you deal with life and people in your life. It was one of the best things someone has ever done for me. You seem to be a bit ignorant. You can't judge them by spending one hour sitting there putting up resistence, many people like myself do that the first day. But I gave them a chance and so did all the others.

Military? jokes were flying back and forth in my class. I've meet the coolest people with pretty messed up lifes and for the first time I got a chance and opportunity to be honest with myself without being judged. I got to take a look at my life.

It's not a rip off at all. It's all about attitudes and beliefs we've adapted from our childhood on. It's not for everyone, it's only for people who are willing to let their guard down, empty the cup and are willing to better themselves to create a better life for themselves.

Wow,
I am consistantly amazed and bewildered by people that scream "rip-off" about The Basic Seminar.
I have personally experienced an enormous transformation in my attitude, and the way I treat other people. I am willing to accept responsibility for MY choices. and I am no longer willing to blame others for the thing in my life that don't go as I would like. The "oh woe is me; I was bamboozaled" thing is really pathetic to me now and it is certainly the most brilliant way to get other people to "co-sign" your Bull-sh*t! Too bad really that we are so well programmed by life around us to blame our circumstances on others. If we started talking responsibility for our own actions and reactions, we might not have to live in shame guilt and win-lose situations. But then really, how fun would that be? Harmony instead of suffering? Accepting what is great about ourselves, instead of holding on to our limiting beliefs that we are flawed, imperfect, and therfore less than, well can that be anygood for anyone? a seminar that teaches that you are worthwhile, and that you can do what ever you set your mind to, yeah is that a rip off? Especially when you get to return as many times as you want for free, boy, now where is the bargain in that? Do they want you to attend the adv. courses? YEP! So does Tony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, Wayne Dyer.....countless others.
Congratulations on maintianing your victim status. Eventually you will get a crown or a badge or something I am sure. For now the glory of misery alone is your reward.

Wow,
I am consistantly amazed and bewildered by people that scream "rip-off" about The Basic Seminar.
I have personally experienced an enormous transformation in my attitude, and the way I treat other people. I am willing to accept responsibility for MY choices. and I am no longer willing to blame others for the thing in my life that don't go as I would like. The "oh woe is me; I was bamboozaled" thing is really pathetic to me now and it is certainly the most brilliant way to get other people to "co-sign" your Bull-sh*t! Too bad really that we are so well programmed by life around us to blame our circumstances on others. If we started talking responsibility for our own actions and reactions, we might not have to live in shame guilt and win-lose situations. But then really, how fun would that be? Harmony instead of suffering? Accepting what is great about ourselves, instead of holding on to our limiting beliefs that we are flawed, imperfect, and therfore less than, well can that be anygood for anyone? a seminar that teaches that you are worthwhile, and that you can do what ever you set your mind to, yeah is that a rip off? Especially when you get to return as many times as you want for free, boy, now where is the bargain in that? Do they want you to attend the adv. courses? YEP! So does Tony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, Wayne Dyer.....countless others.
Congratulations on maintianing your victim status. Eventually you will get a crown or a badge or something I am sure. For now the glory of misery alone is your reward.

Wow,
I am consistantly amazed and bewildered by people that scream "rip-off" about The Basic Seminar.
I have personally experienced an enormous transformation in my attitude, and the way I treat other people. I am willing to accept responsibility for MY choices. and I am no longer willing to blame others for the thing in my life that don't go as I would like. The "oh woe is me; I was bamboozaled" thing is really pathetic to me now and it is certainly the most brilliant way to get other people to "co-sign" your Bull-sh*t! Too bad really that we are so well programmed by life around us to blame our circumstances on others. If we started talking responsibility for our own actions and reactions, we might not have to live in shame guilt and win-lose situations. But then really, how fun would that be? Harmony instead of suffering? Accepting what is great about ourselves, instead of holding on to our limiting beliefs that we are flawed, imperfect, and therfore less than, well can that be anygood for anyone? a seminar that teaches that you are worthwhile, and that you can do what ever you set your mind to, yeah is that a rip off? Especially when you get to return as many times as you want for free, boy, now where is the bargain in that? Do they want you to attend the adv. courses? YEP! So does Tony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, Wayne Dyer.....countless others.
Congratulations on maintianing your victim status. Eventually you will get a crown or a badge or something I am sure. For now the glory of misery alone is your reward.

Wow,
I am consistantly amazed and bewildered by people that scream "rip-off" about The Basic Seminar.
I have personally experienced an enormous transformation in my attitude, and the way I treat other people. I am willing to accept responsibility for MY choices. and I am no longer willing to blame others for the thing in my life that don't go as I would like. The "oh woe is me; I was bamboozaled" thing is really pathetic to me now and it is certainly the most brilliant way to get other people to "co-sign" your Bull-sh*t! Too bad really that we are so well programmed by life around us to blame our circumstances on others. If we started talking responsibility for our own actions and reactions, we might not have to live in shame guilt and win-lose situations. But then really, how fun would that be? Harmony instead of suffering? Accepting what is great about ourselves, instead of holding on to our limiting beliefs that we are flawed, imperfect, and therfore less than, well can that be anygood for anyone? a seminar that teaches that you are worthwhile, and that you can do what ever you set your mind to, yeah is that a rip off? Especially when you get to return as many times as you want for free, boy, now where is the bargain in that? Do they want you to attend the adv. courses? YEP! So does Tony Robbins, Robert Kiyosaki, Wayne Dyer.....countless others.
Congratulations on maintianing your victim status. Eventually you will get a crown or a badge or something I am sure. For now the glory of misery alone is your reward.

PSI Basic changed my life.
I dont feel that I was indoctrinated nor is PSI a cult.
It was totally up to me what i did with what I learned at the seminar.
In a nutshell the seminar motivated me and gave me tools to get on with succeeding in my life.

I'm pretty sure that the complainer if she had continued with the seminar (given her particular attitude that made her give up after just one hour) would have also benefited from it greatly.

I have no financial affiliation with PSI. I am simply a Basic Seminar Graduate.

PSI Basic changed my life.
I dont feel that I was indoctrinated nor is PSI a cult.
It was totally up to me what i did with what I learned at the seminar.
In a nutshell the seminar motivated me and gave me tools to get on with succeeding in my life.

I'm pretty sure that the complainer if she had continued with the seminar (given her particular attitude that made her give up after just one hour) would have also benefited from it greatly.

I have no financial affiliation with PSI. I am simply a Basic Seminar Graduate.

PSI Basic changed my life.
I dont feel that I was indoctrinated nor is PSI a cult.
It was totally up to me what i did with what I learned at the seminar.
In a nutshell the seminar motivated me and gave me tools to get on with succeeding in my life.

I'm pretty sure that the complainer if she had continued with the seminar (given her particular attitude that made her give up after just one hour) would have also benefited from it greatly.

I have no financial affiliation with PSI. I am simply a Basic Seminar Graduate.

As I read the posts on PSI Seminars I am struck by the negativity expressed by those who feel they were ripped off. I am particularly surprised that such a negative impression of the Basic Seminar could be acquired during the first hour of the first day since the first 6 hours of the seminar were actually quite fun,light hearted and insightful.

I attended my Basic in December of 2003, quite reluctantly I might add. But I promised myself that I would be open minded and that I would fully participate so that I might be able to judge the seminar fairly. During the seminar I laughed and cried; I remembered and I dreamed. Basic did not teach me one single thing that I did not already know but it did present ideas in an easily understood and useable format and reminded me of which values I hold most important.

After playing the Saturday Night Game, everything came together for me and I realized how I was "playing" my life. On Sunday morning I chose to "play" my life differently and immediately signed up for the PSI 7 seminar. I made the choice to attend 7 because I wanted to change how I was living my life. The only pressure placed on me was from myself. I did see PSI employees and volunteers "pressuring" or selling to Basic students. I have also seen automobile salesmen pressure people to buy a car who were only "window shopping" and I have seen hot dog and beer vendors at sporting events pressure attendees to purchase their wares. The fact is, if you are attending a sports event or looking at cars then it is likely that you may make a purchase. I think it is fair to say that if you attend Basic there is a reasonable possiblity you may wish to attend an advanced seminar. Not good, bad, right or wrong, it just is.

To make assumptions about the advanced seminars is a big mistake. I assumed that PSI 7 would be more of Basic but I was completely wrong. Seven is truely what it's title says it is...A Life Success course. What I gained from this seminar will be with me for the rest of my life and I would have paid the tuition twice over for the experience I created. Every single one of my 7 team mates feels the same and most will or have attended the leadership seminar.

I leave for MLS this coming Friday with a profound sense of excitement and an equal dose of apprehension. However, the Basic and the 7 seminars have taught me to trust myself and to trust in the choices and decisions I make. So regardless of the feelings I have today, I know upon completion of MLS that I will have a new experience that will further define who I am and how I live my life. I cannot and will not speak for others nor will I judge those with dessenting opinions, but I have gained much from PSI Seminars and expect to gain much more as I continue to give more to the world I live in. Givers Gain.

My experiences with PSI and PSI Seminars are my own just as my life experiences are my own. People may share an activity or event but their experience of that activity or event is uniquely their own and never exactly the same as anyone elses. If our world populations could accept this notion that each experience of each individual is unique and that it is okay, imagine what positive change could occur. Acceptance....We are all different and unique...Accept this....We all have different ideas, thoughts and aspirations...Embrace our differences....They are not Good- Bad- Right or Wrong.. They just are what they are.

If you are looking for a reason not to attend Basic, you will find one. You can find a reason to do or not to do anything you want....Not good bad right or wrong, it just is. But with so much that life has to offer why not strive to be a leader of yourself. You may find you like that experience better than how you are living your life today.

Hello!

I have a dear and trusted friend that took the PSI Basic seminar over eight years ago(& since continued with the advanced seminars). I based my decision to become involved with PSI, on the example he sets in his life everyday, not what he told me about the company, because he never told me anything except that he was involved in Life Success Courses and Men's Leadership seminars.

I checked out the website(www.psiseminars.com), called and asked questions, and attended the Basic Seminar in San Diego (I live in NY- I wanted to go immediately and chose the earliest seminar rather than the most conveniently located one).

Between April and the middle of June 2004, I completed the Basic Seminar as well as PSI7 and the Women's Leadership Seminar. I am also committed to attending Principia, which the world's finest and most respected authors and speakers go to and contribute, including Deepak Chopra. In retrospect and this website, I am thinking that if these well known and respected people choose to speak at a PSI Seminar, that is a huge statement about PSI in itself.

In reading this 'ripoffreport' website, I am completely surprised by the strength and venom used to describe the PSI experience, especially by people who have never been there or completed atleast the first four days. I do understand that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you haven't been through a PSI seminar, how can you contribute on something you know nothing or little about? What about the concept 'To each his own'? And give others the opportunity to learn for themselves?

In the process of all three seminars, I have NEVER met anyone who, at any time, expressed themselves in the way that some of you are expressing yourself on this website. I've met over 300 people during my experiences so far and have yet to hear anything like this.

Do you know that more than 500,000 people worldwide, have attended the Basic seminar in over 30 years and less than ONE percent have ever asked for their money back? PSI seminars is the oldest seminar company of its kind still in its original form. Did you know that the Basic Seminar is one that you can take as many times as you would like, for the rest of your life, for FREE?

Had any of you been through PSI 7, you would have received your copy of the manuscripts, written by the founder, Thomas Willhite and understood what his Vision is all about and the Principles that he built PSI Seminars and PSI World on. There is nothing PSI teaches that hasn't been said or written about somewhere else. Truth will always be Truth. I am also welcome to share my book as PSI does not hide the principles that the company is built on. How PSI brings it all together is what makes the company so unique.

Do you know about the charities that PSI World is involved in? The time, energy and money that is contributed to our world and our children? Why not check it out?

I realize that my first response to this reporting website was complete upset as someone I know sent it to me to 'open my eyes' about what I have just done with my time and money. They are concerned for me. I know what I did with my time and money and will never regret it, ever.

For those who read this, who are truly interested in what happens at a Basic(the water issue) & what the company is about-read to the end of this posting), there is a list that is gone over in the beginning of the Basic seminar with explanation as to why each request is on the list. At that time, all are welcome to ask questions in reference to the material. The list is to keep distractions down to a minimum so that attention can be directed to the material.

When walking into a room full of smiling and energetic people at the Basic... I wanted what they had rather than questioned anyone's motives.

I entered each apsect of my PSI experience with TRUST, CURIOSITY, and ENERGY. I wanted to get the full experience out of it and I did. I dove in to whatever exercises were involved and it changed my life. The Basic weekend helped me to realize so many things about myself and how I contribute to the world on a daily basis.

I was the first one at the table to sign up, as I chose to go onto the next two levels of seminars as soon as possible, because I wanted to, not because I felt forced to do so at any time.

I am excited that through my PSI experiences, I have met and become friends with such awesome people and these friendships, now continue out of the PSI arena. My friends are from all over the US and Canada and as far as Japan.

I have accomplished things I had never considered before. I have overcome personal struggles. I have conquered physical events that have completely empowered me. I found out that my heart could fill with complete and pure Love for myself and other human beings. I have taken myself on in ways I never thought possible. I have been challenged and conquered the challenges to come out on the other side... more confident, powerful, Loving and committed, to myself and this world that we live in.

My experience of all staff and facilitators, including Kathy, Rob, Gary, Ernestine, Shelli and Shirley, is nothing but of caring, dedicated, strong and Loving people who give of themselves completely to each and every individual that chooses to attend any and all PSI Seminars. Each person is completely involved on a personal level.

PSI teaches what I have always shared with others, my entire life(I am 36 years young).

As for PSI being a cult? Go and find out for yourself. Go to Psiseminars.com - I did and I am so glad I did! A place where two minds think alike... could be considered a cult: American cult, women cult, men cult, teacher's cult, religious cult...

You are part of one right now... It is called the Human Family.

As for the idea that PSI makes money? PSI World is a non-profit organization. PSI Seminars has a financial plan just like all businesses. In business, find a need and fill it... and while you are at it, go above and beyond and do your best!

We are all part of the Human Family. How we choose to live and treat each other is evident everday. Just look around. I choose each day of my life to be filled with Love. I am honored and proud to be involved with PSI... and to share my experience with others including you.

Life is a choice and how I live it is a choice. To quote Jane Willhite, about her husband Thomas' philosophies, "His life rested on the foundation that all human beings had been given a gift-THE LAW OF CHOICE- and each man or woman was free to create their life on how they daily applied this law... If you will dare to choose a path of greatness, you will create a great and magnificent life for you to experience."

To quote Jane Willhite, "Look to yourself for responsibility. Dream big. Find goodness in those around you. See the world as a place of abundance. Be committed to your word. Live each day to the fullest. Express the joy that is within you. Know that we believe in you and your dreams. Share yourself with others... We want you to have your dreams... Peace through Love."

Where have you heard or read these words before? This is what PSI is based on... and you know what? I'd like another helping please!

Being associated with a company based on Principles including aspects and teachings of the company's Beginnings and in life: Visions, Desire, Attitude, Wealth, Consciousness, Mastermind, Wisdom, Leadership, Fears, Power, Liberty... I wear my WLS Triangle with Pride.

I just reread an entry of someone else's experience of the Basic... words she used included: scary, pressured, shame, crap, rude, not helpful, dislike, stolen, sham, disappointment, time commitment, militant, rip off, hard earned, cult like, shocked. These words are a description of the first hour/evening.

If each person in the world was given the exact same recipe for cookies with the exact same ingredients, no two cookies would ever come out the same because each person is different. That idea holds true to anything in life, including choice and experiences of seminars.

And for those who read this entry, I know that I know that I know what is Truth. And I know that I know that I know.. that you do to. And so it is.

I just wanted to share some thoughts regarding the PSI dialogue.

I attended a Basic seminar in January 2003, and walked out of it with a lot of ambivalence. I appreciated much of what I learned, but was put off by two things: 1) the high-pressure sales pitch on the last day; 2) the idea that the PSI way is the only way to attain growth, self-empowerment, goal realization, and abundance in one's life. Even as all my friends were signing up for the advanced seminars, I walked away, resolved to hold onto to my checkbook and do it my way.

About a year and a half later, I found that much of what I had picked up in the Basic was getting applied to my life. I was using -- in my own way, not necessarily the PSI way -- quite a few of the exercises and writing tools to attain clarity and vision. In addition, my life was moving forward faster and, most importantly, I was much happier. I was less attached to scarcity consciousness and old fears, and more receptive to growth, education, and change. I also found that all the friends who had moved into the advanced seminars had changed profoundly in their own approaches to life. And, I found that some of the PSI teachings were showing up in my own teachings.

With all that in mind, I started to give the advanced seminars a second thought. I contacted a friend discreetly (yes, I was afraid of the PSI mass converging on me) and she invited me to staff an upcoming Basic with her. As a staff, we met for six weeks (usually once or twice a week) prior to the seminar, and it was there that I began to appreciate the value of what the seminar had to offer. For I saw 35 people working on themselves -- incorporating PSI principles in their own ways, not necessarily the PSI way -- to make their lives, their relationships, their workplaces and other environs a much better place.

We just completed a wonderful Basic. It was spiritually strong, emotionally grounding, and sensible in its delineation of such things as risk and goal-attainment. In our post-evening and pre-morning staff meetings, the message from the facilitator and chief of staff never was to coerce students but to love them and support them with whatever decisions they wanted to make. Not to make the decision for them and force it upon them but to let them work it out, with help from whomever on staff they wanted to turn to.

It's difficult at times to experience a different philosophy, without it feeling like pressure, shaming, brainwashing. But going into an experience only with a desire to learn and to gain what is there for you to gain can make all the difference. It certainly did for me.

When I think about the times I have reached out for help, the only ones that have deep meaning for me were ones where I was presented with ways of thinking differently about my situation. Then, it was up to me to do the work.

Plain and simple..PSI strives to put the tools on the table for those ready to use them. Above all, there's a message of believing that you have the power within you that has been there since birth to let abundance into your life. It's what I've chosen to believe about myself through 39 years of this world's conditioning that's ultimately formed the programs in my head that have kept me stuck.

Yes, I too took offense to the high pressure sales pitch that came near the end of my first basic. Put it in writing up front for me. Then I can decide for myself if it is in the budget where I can see it on neutral territory. It hardly seemed fair to give a response to being told that I needed to sign up for the next seminar in those surroundings. And yes, I had to tell the third person who tried to get me to the back of the room to sign up to back off. But later, I realized that it was my lesson comming around to me again. The universe was just so clever as to use these people and this situation to see if I was ready to begin working again on my assertiveness skills - something I continue to work on today.

Yea, they pissed me off.
But what was the bigger question? What was I not seeing? Believe me, I was ready several times to leave and hitch a ride back to Minneapolis during the course of that weekend, and no one would have blamed me. Flexibility was not in the program. And, it seemed to me that ego's ran high. And, let's not forget about the roommate with whom I was paired up who snuck a few smoking sessions in while I slept. But if I could get passed those things, and believe me.. it's still not easy sometimes thinking about it, I would see that most of the exercises strove to show how my field of vision for myself was limited, and how there were different ways of seeing things.

One thing that is severly flawed in the program is that everyone is treated the same without much flexibility. Someone may be told that his "resistance" is what's keeping him from getting from this point A to that point B, but he may not yet be in a place to know how to begin accepting it. How many instructors/volunteers there, were willing or prepared to spot the shy, or reserved or yes, resistent person, and work at a different pace with him or her? More loud music, and cheering is not going to get the job done. Many fall through the cracks. Where are they now? Has anyone followed up with them? Clearly, method and strategy were missing. How might the individual come to a greater awareness of himself at his own pace without the pressure of 80 people on speed? Simply put, some respond better to having settled down in the silence. Through being present. Not everyone is a type A personality.

Overall, it was a powerful and extremely useful program. I will say that I think it was this way because of the instructor I had.To this day, she ranks up there with some of the best I have ever had throughout all of my education. Her name is Kathy Quinlan - Perez. She was patient, approachable, focused, and a greatly creative presenter. I went to another basic later on in my home city, and it was terrible. I felt that the instructor was on a power trip. At times, he seemed shaming and egotistical. Much of the time he shouted. I don't think he is there any more. Just see it through folks, and stand your ground if you can't afford the next level. Go ahead and ask for your money back if you want. They will give it to you.

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same." Carlos Castaneda

When I think about the times I have reached out for help, the only ones that have deep meaning for me were ones where I was presented with ways of thinking differently about my situation. Then, it was up to me to do the work.

Plain and simple..PSI strives to put the tools on the table for those ready to use them. Above all, there's a message of believing that you have the power within you that has been there since birth to let abundance into your life. It's what I've chosen to believe about myself through 39 years of this world's conditioning that's ultimately formed the programs in my head that have kept me stuck.

Yes, I too took offense to the high pressure sales pitch that came near the end of my first basic. Put it in writing up front for me. Then I can decide for myself if it is in the budget where I can see it on neutral territory. It hardly seemed fair to give a response to being told that I needed to sign up for the next seminar in those surroundings. And yes, I had to tell the third person who tried to get me to the back of the room to sign up to back off. But later, I realized that it was my lesson comming around to me again. The universe was just so clever as to use these people and this situation to see if I was ready to begin working again on my assertiveness skills - something I continue to work on today.

Yea, they pissed me off.
But what was the bigger question? What was I not seeing? Believe me, I was ready several times to leave and hitch a ride back to Minneapolis during the course of that weekend, and no one would have blamed me. Flexibility was not in the program. And, it seemed to me that ego's ran high. And, let's not forget about the roommate with whom I was paired up who snuck a few smoking sessions in while I slept. But if I could get passed those things, and believe me.. it's still not easy sometimes thinking about it, I would see that most of the exercises strove to show how my field of vision for myself was limited, and how there were different ways of seeing things.

One thing that is severly flawed in the program is that everyone is treated the same without much flexibility. Someone may be told that his "resistance" is what's keeping him from getting from this point A to that point B, but he may not yet be in a place to know how to begin accepting it. How many instructors/volunteers there, were willing or prepared to spot the shy, or reserved or yes, resistent person, and work at a different pace with him or her? More loud music, and cheering is not going to get the job done. Many fall through the cracks. Where are they now? Has anyone followed up with them? Clearly, method and strategy were missing. How might the individual come to a greater awareness of himself at his own pace without the pressure of 80 people on speed? Simply put, some respond better to having settled down in the silence. Through being present. Not everyone is a type A personality.

Overall, it was a powerful and extremely useful program. I will say that I think it was this way because of the instructor I had.To this day, she ranks up there with some of the best I have ever had throughout all of my education. Her name is Kathy Quinlan - Perez. She was patient, approachable, focused, and a greatly creative presenter. I went to another basic later on in my home city, and it was terrible. I felt that the instructor was on a power trip. At times, he seemed shaming and egotistical. Much of the time he shouted. I don't think he is there any more. Just see it through folks, and stand your ground if you can't afford the next level. Go ahead and ask for your money back if you want. They will give it to you.

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same." Carlos Castaneda

I was approached my members of P.S.I. to attend the basic seminar. To which I laughed when I was told it was $400.00 to attend. I said no-way.

They said "oh no, it isn't about the money, it's about changing your life" To which I replied "then why is it so much money to go?"
To which they said "We can get you a grant to attend." I said "ok, if you can get me a grant then I'll go, but I will not pay one dime to go to this thing."

Imagine my shock when the seminar date came along and the money was shelled out for me to attend this thing. Now, I don't remember anything about water... what I do know is that I was sick as a dog with the flu and I went to it anyways. By the end of it I was healthy again and my point of view had been radically altered. I do remember a sales pitch at the end of it, but I didn't really care about that. What was important to me was what I learned about myself and my ideals.

Now, I'm not under mind-control and I don't work for P.S.I. In fact, I have had nothing to do with them since then but I guess my experience was alot different than some people who have gone through this thing.

I attended the PSI Basic Seminars and had both a good and bad experience. I think what they teach in there is very beneficial and what you do with it is up to you. There are some things that I use daily and have been successful, and there were things that I thought were riduculous and chose to dismiss them.

They do lay it out strait and don't leave you room for excuses. Some poeple don't like to hear that they actually have controll of their lives and have to take responsibility for their success and failure. It is easier for some people to blame someone or something else, and PSI helps you realize that your life is up to you and you can't play the victim.

What is frustrating is the last day they use HIGH PRESSURE techniques to get you to sign on your friends and go to the next classes. In fact they munipulate what you just learned and feel good about to get you to do this. (My boyfriend and I both lost cash because we were suckers)

PSI does provide a lot of great info and you can see how it can change peoples lives, but use your best judgement and don't be a jackass! If you are weak minded and are easily persuasive, they'll get your money. I think they ruin a good experience by the HIGH PRESSURE SALES PITCH THEY USE. Know that going into it, but keep an open mind because there is some good stuff there. And if there is stuff you don't agree with, then don't use it, duh!!!!!!!!

In typical PSI fashion you seem to believe that you know exactly what was going on with Sue in Anytown TX. Perhaps you can enlighten us on where you learned to mind read so well. How can you judge Sue's entire life based on a few lines of an electronic post, and yet accuse her of judging the seminar after only an hour? And, what is there about your post that would make people want to attend PSI? Seems to me that someone who truly believed (and lived) the win-win concept would be reaching out to help instead of viciously attacking. Also, I was not allowed to take water into the room the first night of my basic seminar either. Is Sue a victim? Perhaps. But I would also say that you too Diane are a victim, you've just been too brainwashed with PSI doctrine to realize it.

I am a PSI graduate. I've attended a Basic and completed all the advanced seminars. I've even staffed seminars.

I have enough experience with PSI to know that I would NEVER RECOMEND THE TRAINING. At the advanced seminars I believe they do use cult tactics and thought reform tactics on the class. I've watched it happen. I experienced it personally.

Hindsight is 20/20. I wish I had never heard of PSI Seminars. I got caught up in the seminars. I thought it was a good thing and I thought I was improving my life. It took me a year and a half to wake up and see just how badly I'd let myself be taken advantage of.

The links in Marks rebuttal are great places to start learning about these LGAT type seminars. I am sorry that I didn't read this stuff until after I paid for the seminars. I could have saved myself thousands of dollars and a ton of grief.

Let the buyer beware. Self help seminars are an unregulated business. Get informed before you buy.

PSI World Seminars, a Large Group Awareness Training program (LGAT), isn't an out-and-out cult, but it's certainly fair to say that it's a pyramid sales scheme that uses cult-like tactics to recruit and retain its customers.

I was recently at a PSI introduction in a hotel conference room in Vancouver, BC. The charismatic and comedic host, Paul Thede, explained that PSI World Seminars was most certainly not network sales (or pyramid sales - same thing) because none of the students gets a commission for recruiting new students.

Well that's even better for PSI World Seminars isn't it? They don't even have to pay the naive students for recruiting! The only reward the student gets is affirmation from the group each time new recruits acquired.

To be fair, there's no question that some people actually do benefit from some of these seminars, especially basic. Whenever you are forced to reflect on your life, career, and relationships, you are bound to gain perspective and experience some degree of catharsis.

The question is: do you want to pay a devious sales organization to achieve this? Or would you rather have a coffee with a good friend, or maybe take a trip to Cancun to achieve the same end?

In the end, PSI World Seminars is simply a sales engine - a pyramid scheme as old as the pyramids themselves. They put you through an emotionally rigorous training session that leaves you feeling euphoric. This may or may not have value to you, but they don't really care about that. They do this so that you'll fall in love with the organization. As you get more deeply involved and committed, they put increasing pressure on you to get recruits, and you'll comply because you want to please.

It's all about the recruits. And the guys at the top are laughing all the way to the bank.

Incidentally, I'm not a victim. I laughed my way out of the introductory seminar and headed to the web to find out about these hucksters.
Here are some useful links:
http://www.rickross.com/reference
/landmark/landmark23.html
http://www.skepdic.com/lgsap.html
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eldon.braun/awareness/
http://www.caic.org.au/zpsyther.htm

Congratulations for having a brain and getting out. I am sorry if you lost any money, but appreciate your post to warn others.

There are other posts on this site about this organization, and I am amazed at how many idiot converts come out of the woodwork to try and "shame" the person complaining about the PSI program.

It almost sounds like a cult, when you read the responses from the die-hard fans.

They don't want people like you anyway--be glad! They don't want anyone questioning them, their program, or anything else. Just fork your money over, and close your eyes. Give yourself a pat on the back for catching on to the scam early on.

Good luck to you.

Diane, you mention the $50 processing fee. Let me ask you this: what were you paid to sell out and shill for these bastards?

How dare you say this wasn't a rip-off just because Sue didn't sit through 35 hours of PSI's bulls**t! SHE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO SIT THROUGH 35 SECONDS OF THIS GARBAGE! Tell your corporate bosses to send Sue her money or POW! That's right, it's Fraud Hammertime on them AND those cowards who shill for them! You heard me! BLAMMO! Then we'll see who is playing the victim!

PSI = Put a Sock in It!

To Sue Anytown ,Tx

The purpose of the PSI Seminar is to make you uncomfortable. They teach you to take risk in life and do things that make you "step out of your box".

You can have bottled water or with a container with a lid, because they move the chairs around quite a bit and don't want people spilling things.
It seems like you enjoy playing "poor me",and could really have benefitted from this incredible seminar if only you had not been afraid.

They ask you to finish the seminar before you judge it. You did not even have a chance to see what really goes on and how it would have helped you to stop playing the victim.

You would have received all your money back if you had completed the seminar. So please don't insinuate that they ripped you off!!

Try to finish something you start in life instead of running away and maybe you would have a totally different experience.

How can you judge a 35 hour class after only one hour??

PSI is great and so are the people associated with it. I just attended the basic in October of 2002. By the end of the seminar you are so amazed. So anyone reading this please judge for yourself, you will get a full refund minus a $50.00 processing fee if you complete the course and are not satisfied.