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Complaint Review: Riley & Sons Moving and Storage - Philadelphia Pennsylvania

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  • Riley & Sons Moving and Storage 8701 Torresdale Ave Philadelphia, Pennsylvania United States of America

Riley & Sons Moving and Storage WORST MOVERS ON THE PLANET; for more info see http://rileyandsonsmoving.wix.com/riley-sons-moving; did over $2,500 damage to my furniture Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response to alleged claims.....

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Claim Closed within 5 business days with a check issued on June 18, 2012

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Riley & Sons Moving and Storage are absolutely awful: unprofessional, unethical, unresponsive, downright lousy movers. Ok; many people use these adjectives to describe bad service. But Riley & Sons Moving and Storage should not be in business. They are lousy, lousy, lousy movers.

Allow me to elaborate on this awful experience. It was a 2 day move from the Upper Main Line to East Falls, Philadelphia. (IT WAS A 2 DAY MOVE BECAUSE I COULD NOT RESERVE THE FREIGHT  ELEVATOR LATER IN THE DAY AT THE NEW BUILDING; THAT TIME SLOT WAS ALREADY TAKEN. THE 2 DAY MOVE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SIZE OF THE MOVE). Riley & Sons Moving and Storage charged me $250 to keep my stuff overnight in their truck.

The 1st day, they arrived 20 minutes late. And I was truly shocked at the size of the movers. There was 1 medium-sized mover (the driver) who directs the 2 movers who actually move the furniture. The driver wraps and organizes the furniture that the other 2 movers bring to the truck. The driver was the size that a mover should be.

The other 2 men were pint-sized: think Justin Beiber, Prince, or one of those tiny 90210 teen idols. I mention their sizes because they cracked 2 bookcases, 1 dining room table, and broke 1 lamp. Those 3 pieces of furniture are huge, entirely too large for tiny men to lift. And the lamp was broken because they are truly lousy movers.

On the 1st day, when one of the movers told me about the first cracked bookcase, he told me that when he and his partner lifted the bookcase, the broken piece was just sitting there. LIAR! What he didnt know is that I file every purchase with receipts by category and date of purchase. I keep these receipts in a file cabinet because one never knows when they might come in handy. That mover did not know that all 3 pieces of furniture came from a beautiful store in Manayunk only months before my move. Those 3 items were never moved from one home to another home. They were delivered to one home only. The furniture was inspected and I signed off on their delivery with the actual owner of the furniture store in my home. The lamp is 3 years old, also very expensive, and was moved only once. The lamp was in working order until the movers broke it.

I forwarded the pictures of the 4 damaged items and the receipts to the owner of Riley & Sons Moving and Storage. After nearly 3 weeks, the only response I get is, were very busy. He has not outlined a plan of action to repair and/or replace the 4 damaged items. He obviously needs to repair the 3 pieces of cracked furniture and replace the lamp. I should mention that the lamp is over $300, and my furniture is from Ethan Allen, Carson Wood Furnishimgs, and Zuo Moderne: all quite lovely shops. But even if I had college furniture, the owner should have enough respect for me as a customer and for himself to tend to this flagrant issue.

As I mentioned, I get vague emails of well take care of it, or I get no response at all from Riley & Sons Moving and Storage. On moving day, when I noticed the damaged pieces, I called the owner and was treated to his yelling at me about the manner in which my boxes were packed. Huh?

Im sure that everyone can agree that people, who have records of receipts by category and date of purchase, are also meticulous packers. On this website, you will find pictures  of the 4 damaged items and of all my boxes which confirm the cautious nature of my packing skills. BUT heres the thing: what do boxes have to do with your tiny men cracking my furniture and breaking my lamp?

You broke my stuff. Dont yell at me. Dont put me down. I believe the owner mentioned the boxes because on the Riley & Sons Moving and Storage receipt it says, there were extra boxes, and they were packed poorly. Huh?

This unethical tactic is a means to explain why it took 4 hours to move my stuff. Ive never had movers take more than 2 hours at most to move the same amount of furniture and boxes. And there were no extra boxes. Riley & Sons Moving and Storage gave me an estimate on an exact count of furniture and 55 boxes. I actually had 53 boxes.

Yes; they take their time, so they are unethical. Riley & Sons Moving and Storage are corrupt because they lie and refuse to fix and/or replace my 3 pieces of cracked furniture and 1 lamp. They also expect me to believe that it took them 2 hours of drive time at 5:15 pm from the Upper Main Line to the Northeast: a rate at which they charge $100/hr.

The next day when they dropped off the furniture, I had the same medium-sized driver and 2 other tiny men. The move took 6 hours to unload in an elevator building. But my building had elevator problems, so I cannot blame Riley & Sons Moving and Storage for those problems, but surely, they took advantage of the situation to make it 6 hours to unload.

You should know that in 20 years of moving, I have never had movers damage  any of my furniture, but then again, I didnt have tiny, little men moving my furniture.

SO WHAT CAN YOU TAKE FROM THIS REVIEW:

1. DO NOT USE RILEY & SONS MOVING AND STORAGE unless you want them to destroy your possessions and then disappear.

2. PICTURES DO NOT LIE.  As I mentioned above, you will find  pictures of the 4 damaged items and of all my boxes which confirm the cautious nature of my packing skills.

3. People like I who keep meticulous records will not be screwed by the likes of Riley & Sons Moving and Storage. START KEEPING RECEIPTS AND OTHER RECORDS.

SO IN SUMMARY, THEY ARE $1,700 RICHER FROM MY MOVE, AND I NOW HAVE TO TAKE TIME OUT OF MY BUSY SCHEDULE TO SUE THEM. How else am I going to have those damaged items replaced? Riley & Sons Moving and Storage is a disgrace.

Do you want to take the chance to have over $2,500 in broken furniture and/or  accessories?

UPDATE 6/20/12 -

After dodging most of my emails and phone calls over the last 3 weeks, the owner sent me an email stating that because I could not wait out the summer for him to  address my damaged/broken items, he will not repair or replace my items.  He said that he would give me  a check for $102  and consider the matter closed.

For him, I was impatient because I could not wait until summer is over to tend to this matter.  The owner explained  that summer is his  busy season for Riley & Sons Moving and Storage. He said that  it is the most active time  for movers in general including moving college  students.

Please tell me what is more absurd: the owner hiring pint-sized movers who break furniture, and then the owner  disappears, OR  the owner expecting me to wait until summer ends "to take care of me."

The bottom line is that after dodging me, he expected me to go away and forget about the atrocious experience like most people  do. SURPRISE Riley & Sons Moving and Storage!

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response to alleged claims.....

AUTHOR: Riley & Sons Moving - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 03, 2012

In the process of moving Ms. Kellys furniture on June 1, 2012, the crew was moving a bookcase from the wall and a small piece of wood from the bottom fell off. Our crew promptly informed Ms. Kelly of the broken bookcase and offered to bring the bookcase back to the office so it could be repaired. Ms. Kelly declined that offer and requested that we send a furniture repairman to her, to which we agreed.

On June 4, 2012, we received a list of allegedly damaged items from Ms. Kelly which included two bookcases and a floor lamp (which was currently not functioning, but had no physical damage done to it).  We advised Ms. Kelly that pursuant to her contract she had until June 11 (ten days from the date of the move) to inspect the rest of her items and report any further claims.  We did not process the claim in the interim, allowing Ms. Kelly to inspect her furniture. On June 11 we received an email in which Ms. Kelly added the dining room table to the list of two bookcases and lamp. We promptly replied and advised Ms. Kelly that the week was very busy (as this is our busiest time of year) and asked her to allow us time to review the claim and make a decision on how it should be handled.  It is our policy to speak to the crew and go over how the damage occurred, and if it is a viable claim.

Subsequently, Ms. Kelly accused us of prevarication and using stall tactics. Despite our belief that we did not cause the damage to the furniture, to keep within our high standings of good customer service, we contacted our furniture repairman, and learned that he was on vacation. We informed Ms. Kelly that the furniture repairman was on vacation and that we would have him out to repair her furniture upon his return.  Unfortunately, we did not have a date for his return or even his availability at that time.

On June 13, Ms. Kelly unreasonably demanded immediate repair to her items and threatened legal action if the furniture was not fixed within five business days.  

The moving crew reported that the dining room table was not damaged during the move. Consequently, on June 18 we requested Ms. Kelly send us photos of the dining room table. Ms. Kelly responded with the below email indicating she expects full replacement/repair of the items including the lamp or she will use her Search Engine Optimization (SEO) skills to ruin our reputation as movers by June 20.  Per Ms. Kellys request to process her claim faster, we were unable to schedule the furniture repair man to inspect and/or repair the alleged damage to the bookshelves and dining room table. * We decided to adjust the claim to the contract signed by Ms. Kelly for the Standard Movers Carrier Insurance for 0.60 cents per pound, per article.   On June 18, 2012 we issued a check for the insured amount for the two bookcases and dining table. There was no physical damage to the lamp, it was an electrical issue, which is not covered by any moving company (Mechanical Condition Unknown). This allowed Ms. Kelly to schedule and have repairs completed within a time frame that works best for her.

Ms Kellys email:

Subject:  Final Demand - Kathy Kelly's Broken Items
From:  XXXXXXX
Sent:  Monday, June 18, 2012 9:24:02 PM
To:  XXXXXXX
CC:  XXXXXXX

"Kevin,

I don't have time to chase you. While it is reasonable to allow you time to respond, I have no information on an outlined plan to fix or replace the items your movers broke/damaged.

Don't stall me with tales of missing repair men; don't ignore my questions about the broken lamp?

It's real simple:

You can either contact me before Wednesday, June 20, 2012 with a reasonable time frame in which I can expect to have the damaged/broken items replaced or repaired (including the lamp). You know: pursue the honorable course of action in which you take responsibility for your business.

OR

At the end of the week, not only will I file legal action against you for the full price plus applicable sales tax on the broken/damaged items, I will use my SEO and SEM skills to make sure that every complaint about Riley & Sons lands on the first page on any Google search a potential customer runs on your business. I have pictures that I will attach; scanned receipts will be attached. And I have excellent grammar and writing skills. Of course, I will start with Angie's List. Any person who runs a Google search on your business
will see the complaints on the first page of Google, not buried deep on pages 2, 3, etc.

Be mindful of the damage that this will do to your business. Do not force my hand.  I am not the average consumer. I have a unique skill set. And it is well within my legal right to sue you and report your business in this day of transparency.

Do not respond with, "don't threaten me!"  What do you expect me to do?

The shame is that I should not have to do take any course of action against you. Just fix and/or replace my stuff. And stop hiring pint-sized men in the vain of Justin Bieber and Prince to move furniture!"
_______________________________
*  Prior to all moves our customers are offered the following insurance options:

1. Full Value Protection Insurance (premium based upon individual shipment); or

2. Standard Movers Insurance - covers the value at 0.60 cents per pound per article (free).

Ms. Kelly chose and signed for the Standard Movers Carrier Insurance.  
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Claim Closed within 5 business days with a check issued on June 18, 2012

AUTHOR: Riley & Sons Moving - (United States of America)

POSTED: Tuesday, July 03, 2012

In the process of moving Ms. Kellys furniture on June 1, 2012, the crew was moving a bookcase from the wall and a small piece of wood from the bottom fell off. Our crew promptly informed Ms. Kelly of the broken bookcase and offered to bring the bookcase back to the office so it could be repaired. Ms. Kelly declined that offer and requested that we send a furniture repairman to her, to which we agreed.

On June 4, 2012, we received a list of allegedly damaged items from Ms. Kelly which included two bookcases and a floor lamp (which was currently not functioning, but had no physical damage done to it).  We advised Ms. Kelly that pursuant to her contract she had until June 11 (ten days from the date of the move) to inspect the rest of her items and report any further claims.  We did not process the claim in the interim, allowing Ms. Kelly to inspect her furniture. On June 11 we received an email in which Ms. Kelly added the dining room table to the list of two bookcases and lamp. We promptly replied and advised Ms. Kelly that the week was very busy (as this is our busiest time of year) and asked her to allow us time to review the claim and make a decision on how it should be handled.  It is our policy to speak to the crew and go over how the damage occurred, and if it is a viable claim.

Subsequently, Ms. Kelly accused us of prevarication and using stall tactics. Despite our belief that we did not cause the damage to the furniture, to keep within our high standings of good customer service, we contacted our furniture repairman, and learned that he was on vacation. We informed Ms. Kelly that the furniture repairman was on vacation and that we would have him out to repair her furniture upon his return.  Unfortunately, we did not have a date for his return or even his availability at that time.

On June 13, Ms. Kelly unreasonably demanded immediate repair to her items and threatened legal action if the furniture was not fixed within five business days.  

The moving crew reported that the dining room table was not damaged during the move. Consequently, on June 18 we requested Ms. Kelly send us photos of the dining room table. Ms. Kelly responded with the below email indicating she expects full replacement/repair of the items including the lamp or she will use her Search Engine Optimization (SEO) skills to ruin our reputation as movers by June 20.  Per Ms. Kellys request to process her claim faster, we were unable to schedule the furniture repair man to inspect and/or repair the alleged damage to the bookshelves and dining room table. * We decided to adjust the claim to the contract signed by Ms. Kelly for the Standard Movers Carrier Insurance for 0.60 cents per pound, per article.   On June 18, 2012 we issued a check for the insured amount for the two bookcases and dining table. There was no physical damage to the lamp, it was an electrical issue, which is not covered by any moving company (Mechanical Condition Unknown). This allowed Ms. Kelly to schedule and have repairs completed within a time frame that works best for her.

Ms Kellys email:

Subject:  Final Demand - Kathy Kelly's Broken Items
From:  XXXXXXX
Sent:  Monday, June 18, 2012 9:24:02 PM
To:  XXXXXXX
CC:  XXXXXXX

"Kevin,

I don't have time to chase you. While it is reasonable to allow you time to respond, I have no information on an outlined plan to fix or replace the items your movers broke/damaged.

Don't stall me with tales of missing repair men; don't ignore my questions about the broken lamp?

It's real simple:

You can either contact me before Wednesday, June 20, 2012 with a reasonable time frame in which I can expect to have the damaged/broken items replaced or repaired (including the lamp). You know: pursue the honorable course of action in which you take responsibility for your business.

OR

At the end of the week, not only will I file legal action against you for the full price plus applicable sales tax on the broken/damaged items, I will use my SEO and SEM skills to make sure that every complaint about Riley & Sons lands on the first page on any Google search a potential customer runs on your business. I have pictures that I will attach; scanned receipts will be attached. And I have excellent grammar and writing skills. Of course, I will start with Angie's List. Any person who runs a Google search on your business
will see the complaints on the first page of Google, not buried deep on pages 2, 3, etc.

Be mindful of the damage that this will do to your business. Do not force my hand.  I am not the average consumer. I have a unique skill set. And it is well within my legal right to sue you and report your business in this day of transparency.

Do not respond with, "don't threaten me!"  What do you expect me to do?

The shame is that I should not have to do take any course of action against you.

Just fix and/or replace my stuff. And stop hiring pint-sized men in the vain of Justin Bieber and Prince to move furniture!"
_______________________________
*  Prior to all moves our customers are offered the following insurance options:

1. Full Value Protection Insurance (premium based upon individual shipment); or

2. Standard Movers Insurance - covers the value at 0.60 cents per pound per article (free).

Ms. Kelly chose and signed for the Standard Movers Carrier Insurance.  

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