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Report: #1149884

Complaint Review: Rob Griffin

  • Submitted: Tue, May 27, 2014
  • Updated: Fri, February 02, 2018
  • Reported By: Cammie Mckenzie — Sunrise Florida
  • Rob Griffin
    PO Box 3420
    Hollywood, California
    USA

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Rob Griffin is the founder of 420magazine.com, an online website spreading Cannabis Awareness.  And while he hides behind his facade of being an activist and advocate for the pot community, his true colors are that of a prejudiced bigot with severe hatred for the LGBT community.  In fact his hatred for LGBT individuals is so strong, that upon finding out one of his advertisers was a transsexual, he shut down our company's paid ads and stole the remaining year's balance we paid!  

Rob Griffin is a shady individual who blames the rest of the world for his problems.  If he's not blaming the government or Paypal, or credit card processors, he's blaming you.  He takes no responsibility for any of his own actions, and has a quick to speak, slow to think mentality.  The more you talk to him the more you wonder just how many brain cells he has left. [continued below]....

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Who am I?  My name is Cammie Mckenzie and I am a victim of Rob Griffin's prejudice, hatred, libel and illegal act of theft.  I own a company called Hydro Grow LED, who was one of the first paid LED Grow Light advertisers on 420 Magazine back in 2009.  We paid for a year of advertising in October 2009, and then in early 2010 (April/May) Rob banned me from the forums after allowing everyone under the sun to attack me openly with no recourse.  He then canceled our advertisements from running on the forum and refused to refund back the pre-paid difference.  He stole nearly $1,000 in advertising revenue from our company - a paid sponsor.  Why?  Because Rob Griffin is prejudiced against me. 

Despite banning me in 2010 and posting libelous material to his forum (that he still advertises to this day), he refused to allow me to post a rebuttal to the libel he is so proud of.  And yet everyone knows there are two sides to every story - but Rob Griffin could care less about fairness.  If he doesn't like what you say on his forum, he bans you without a second thought.  Try it for yourself - go on 420 Magazine and make a post about Hydro Grow LED, then watch how fast it's deleted and you're banned.  The man will stop at nothing with his personal prejudice vendetta against me...  He keeps calling me a fraud, when he defrauded our company.  He says I abandoned my children and have been running from the FBI for years...  All he does is attack my personal character with lies.  Who would believe that after 5 years of having my address posted on the internet that the FBI wouldn't have found me?  And if I abandoned my children, why do they live with me each summer?  But Rob Griffin doesn't care about truth - he cares about creating more of a prejudice against me amongst his readers - thus why he is so defensive about anyone who mentions my name or company on his site. 

Recently another LED Grow Light company contacted me to inform me that Rob was advertising the libel on his site to them via emails, trying to convince people that he was a victim (somehow) of Hydro Grow, when he stole our advertising money!  He even accused this individual of being me and banned them permanently from his forum.  His paranoia knows no end - but one thing we do know is that he does not want you to ever learn the truth behind his stories...  He doesn't want you to have the other side of the story either.  He just wants to perpetuate hatred on his forum, a modern day hate-crime.  

If you're thinking about advertising with 420 Magazine, think twice!  If Rob ever has a problem with you, he will ban you, trash your business on his forum, and steal any funds you paid him.  But how does he make stealing funds so easy you ask?  SIMPLE - 420 Magazine accepts CASH ONLY payments!  They REFUSE to accept credit cards or Paypal payments - once again blaming the government rather than opening his own merchant account.  Once he has your cash, you have no recourse.  Likewise because you paid him in cash, he doesn't have to report it to the IRS!  What a perfect money-laundering scheme! 

It took 4 years for me to write a post about Rob Griffin.  I rarely act against anyone unless they have acted against me in the most heinous of ways, time after time.  It's only because Rob after 4 years is still beating a dead transsexual horse, and continuing to defame me openly, that I decided to strike back.  People deserve to know the true fraudulent nature of Rob Griffin. 

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Rob Griffin – A Man With A Mission

AUTHOR: Teddy - (United States)

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." 

Margaret Mead, cultural anthropologist

 

When the history of Cannabis legalization comes to be written, there is one figure who will have a chapter of his own. If you are involved in the movement, even at a peripheral level, chances are that you will have heard of such warriors as activist Jack Herer, writer Jorge Cervantes and strain hunter Franco Loja. 

You may never however have heard of Rob Griffin.

Yet few have done more to generate awareness of Cannabis as a medicinal, healing herb. Few have reached quite so many people with knowledge and information. He is part of the groundswell, the slow but relentless cultural shift in opinion, which is the fuel powering the fundamental attitude change that’s in progress, not only in North America, but across the world.

Just over the last 12 months, as Canada introduces medical legalization, when conservative Greece plans medical legislation, when right wing, senior politicians in the UK start to call for a change in the law, you can witness the results of Rob Griffin’s work - it’s a part of the invisible iceberg which sits below the public pronouncements.

Who is he and why has his influence been so pervasive?

In 1993 a regular Cannabis bust on a medical user kick-started the movement which now cannot be resisted. Little did the SWAT team realize when they held machine guns to the head of a prone figure and his family on the floor of his apartment, that what they were actually doing was starting something which would fundamentally change not only his life but change for the better the lives of millions across the world.

When he walked out after a month in jail, Rob knew that things were going to change. The fierce passion and intelligence that he’d been blessed with had found its focus. Like a secular Billy Graham, with the same inner power and the same eloquence, Rob had found his own mission in life.

And so 420 Magazine was born.

The magazine, initially a print publication but soon to move to the nascent web, began with the same Mission Statement that even today, 25 years later, remains unchanged. It is worth quoting in full as it embodies the purpose, the focus and the character of Rob Griffin. These are not words crafted by a consultant or branding agency. These are Rob’s words. These are Rob’s beliefs.

420 Magazine exists to support the repeal of all Cannabis prohibition laws and penalties throughout the world. Not another person should suffer incarceration or stigma because of these unjust laws. 

420 Magazine believes Cannabis prohibition will end as more people become aware of the true benefits of the plant. 420 Magazine is the vehicle that provides you with the scientific and anecdotal advice of Cannabis experts in the areas of cultivation, medical, social and legal matters. Our community provides support to those bringing Cannabis awareness to the world.

We believe each human has the right to consume a plant in his or her own body, government should repeal all laws violating this right and those incarcerated for Cannabis offenses should be set free. 

Cannabis is a medically wondrous plant. It provides a safe alternative for pain relief, anti-nausea, appetite-inducement, anti-bacterial, and anti-inflammation medication. Its properties have been demonstrated to fight cancer, and provide relief to the seriously ill and dying as well as those challenged with anxiety and depression. Millions of people have shared the medical benefits of Cannabis throughout the centuries. 

420 Magazine believes farmers shall have the right to grow and profit from Industrial Hemp--one of the strongest, environmentally friendly substances on the planet. Industrial Hemp is a natural fiber found in everything from rope to the finest clothing designs. It shows benefit as both a food form and as a health and beauty aid. Hemp is the environmental answer to the elimination of our dependence on earth-destroying fossil fuels. The Hemp bounty will end oil wars, deforestation, pollution, acid rain and global warming.

The Mission of 420 Magazine is to repeal Cannabis prohibition by promoting international Cannabis awareness to the masses.

This is no fly-by-night statement, and Rob is no fly-by-night individual. Over 25 years he has built 420 Magazine into one of the most well-known and respected Cannabis Hemp organizations in the world. Cannabis websites have come and gone. Copy-cat ventures have sprung up overnight and disappeared just as quickly. Why has 420 Magazine survived?

On a practical level, Rob has always stayed strictly within the law, allowing no trading, selling or swopping of cannabis related items. He has wisely stayed just behind legislation, whilst at the same time the content of 420 Magazine has been a leader in generating knowledge and awareness. It’s an incredibly deft trick, and it has served him and the world well.

Having first mover advantage on the internet got 420 Magazine off to a great start. Activists and growers in the 1990’s flocked to this new and unique resource for news, for medical and scientific information, for grow support and for a community of like-minded individuals. The switch from print to digital was an early indicator of the prescience of the magazine’s founder and CEO. This was a medium which could reach millions more, at far lower cost, than any print publication. Then, as now, Rob worked day and night, building his international organization.

However this practical approach would have been of little value had it not had the force of Rob’s personality behind it. "80 percent of success is just showing up" said Woody Allen. Rob has been showing up every single day for 25 years. This dedication to his cause is reminiscent of such business Titans as Steve Jobs and Richard Branson. And like them, his attention to detail never fails.

Working on the internet for 25 years takes some doing. Building and maintaining one of the world’s most respected, positive and friendly Cannabis Hemp magazines takes even more. Yet, despite the trolls, the shills and sock puppets out to steal the reputation that Rob has built, the man himself remains astonishingly open and positive. There is no hint of wear-out or bitterness to those who try and take his reputation. And there have been many, both individuals and groups, attempting, just because they can, or because of some perceived and mis-aligned personal grudge against success, to destroy the magazine or the reputation of its owner. Rob is clear in all his dealings, whether it be with members, partners or sponsors. Those amongst them who do not hold honesty in the same high esteem as he does will not last. Which is why he and 420 Magazine have. It’s why 420 Magazine members come and why the right ones stay – for its reputation for honesty, its constant positive vibe and its lack of trolls. They can trust 420 Magazine, and they can trust Rob Griffin. They trust him with their security and they trust him and the website for information and support. It has become a self-perpetuating, social networking community of activists, medical experts and growers where everyone is welcomed with positivity and open arms. 

Rob’s attitude extends through his website to his members and his staff. He is fiercely protective of the worldwide, mature team of professionals who work for and with him. In his house, as long as you stick to his guidelines – professionalism and politeness – then, as his staff say, you will find no better or more supportive CEO anywhere. Cross him, with dishonesty in any form, and whether you are staff, sponsor or member, then you won’t last. Truth drives Rob, whether it’s in personal relationships, business dealings or in the virtual world. It is the truth about Cannabis and Hemp which drives his mission. 

In a world with its head on straight, Rob Griffin would be lauded as a great humanitarian. By creating, populating and maintaining 420 Magazine for 25 years, he has spread Cannabis Hemp awareness and knowledge to millions, and in the process has brought more physical and mental relief from pain than any single doctor could in a lifetime.

A chapter in the history of cannabis legalization dedicated to Rob Griffin? Scratch that. The man deserves a book.

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Rob Griffin Is One Of The Good Guys

AUTHOR: Richard - (United Kingdom)

This Report by Cammie is nonsense & unfair. It is simply a revenge act for being banned from a website for threatening innocent people who had bought her lights on trust, which was mercilessly betrayed. She is using her Transgender status as a weapon, just like she used the threat of law enforcement when a customer complained about faulty lights.

Rob Griffin is one of the most genuine and authentic people I have ever met. He is a sincere person, generous in spirit & sacrifices his life to his chosen cause. He lives to help others, especially the sick and elderly people on his website who depend upon the help they receive to grow their own medicine.

Rob does not judge people on their race, gender or sexuality. He is a straight-up, factual person who judges a topic based on its merits and is open to every kind of discussion. He does not attack a person, but he does defend his principles of fairness and equality,  seeking only to protect those whom he deems to be within his sphere of responsibility. This includes the members of his website, many of whom suffer from various illnesses (Including Cancer, MS, Alzheimer's, ADHD, PTSD, etc.) and are seeking help to grow and prepare their own medicine. These people have been let down by the medical system and Rob offers a free service, paid for by sponsors, that sustains a thriving community of experienced advisors and enthusiastic cheerleaders supporting novice growers.

I was privy to some of the discussions behind the scenes, where many members had issues with Cammie's juvenile and threatening behaviour. Rob Griffin behaved as anyone in a position of trust and responsibility should act. He simply defended his members against a scammer and warned others of said scammer with documentation & examples of her behaviour towards her customers.

She is well known online as a scammer and many people have complained about her business practices. Here is one example from a different cannabis forum in 2010:

thcfarmer.com/community/threads/fraud-cammie-mckenzie-fraud.26178/

There is also a Ripoff Report that was filled against Cammie, a couple of years before she filed this Report: ripoffreport.com/reports/hydro-grow-led-led-grow-lights/henderson-nevada-nv-89014/hydro-grow-led-led-grow-lights-cammie-mckenzie-hydro-grow-led-hydro-gro-ledgirl-led-955817

People have been complaining online about Cammie since 2003, when when Cammie McKenzie was Cameron Scott Wieldraayer of Night Szevyn Racing (car parts importer) and sold racing car parts under the name "Night7Racing" aka "NightXCZ77". Here are some links to various forums where customers have been scammed & complained because she stopped communicating:

zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=31514

honda-tech.com/forums/general-discussion-debate-40/anyone-live-near-suprise-az-i-have-been-scamed-532096/

forums.nicoclub.com/warning-cameron-wieldraayer-at-it-again-t115578.html

az240sx.org/forums/topic/10603-lawsuit-against-cameron-s-wieldraayer-being-filed/

honda-tech.com/forums/general-discussion-debate-40/me-5-others-have-been-scammed-%2425k-www-night7racing-com-rjc-trading-574960/

 

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Ex-Sponsor Problems - Cammie Cammie Mckenzie & Hydro-Grow LED / Magnum LED

AUTHOR: 420 - ()

The staff of 420 Magazine wishes to advise its members and readers that we are again having trouble with Cammie McKenzie (formerly of Hydro-Grow LED and currently believed associated with Magnum LED)

Cammie and/or her associates are again posting falsehoods and innuendo around the net and while our preference is to handle these issues in private we will defend ourselves in public when necessary.

1) 420 Magazine, its owner(s), and staff are not anti-transgendered and honestly don't care about anyone's straight or LGBT status. The fact that some of us are being accused of bigotry toward the LGBT community is nothing more than a smear job without foundation, developed to ruin our reputation. Cammie was once a sponsor in good standing here, and this was reportedly during a very personal period in her life, where personal rumors and attacks were rampant. I personally scrubbed the site on more than one occasion to moderate for this injustice. We've had many LGBT people on our staff for years whom we love dearly; this is just pure nonsense.

2) The lights Cammie sold were of high quality. This was empirically true as evidenced by the awesome demonstration & competition thread put together by my old friend (Setting Sun). If you haven't seen this competition (which Cammie won), it's worth a read.

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/completed-journals/107598-haight-solid-state-vs-h-g-led.html

3) Cammie was banned and her Sponsorship terminated because she wouldn't stop disrupting the forum, arguing our policies in public, viscously attacked members, and in at least one instance threatened to call the Sheriff on a grower in an illegal state, over a disagreement about a returned good, unless he sent her $600. Any sponsor that threatens and/or attempts to blackmail members, doesn't practice fair trade, or otherwise acts disreputably is banned as a sponsor.

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/legal/129842-caveat-emptor-buyer-beware-hydro-grow-led.html

4) I personally spent hundreds of hours (not an exaggeration) scrubbing the site of problems, dealing with advisories to members that resulted from her abrasive nature, and working with Cammie trying to convince her to follow our rules. The ultimate ban and sponsorship termination only came after repeated warnings and our inability to affect a change in behavior. There was quite a bit of illogic in the discussions.

5) Some of her accusations are so far out there that I hesitate to even bother refuting them. For example no one from 420 Magazine ever said she abandoned her children or that she is running from the FBI.

420 Magazine, and I personally, wish Cammie the best of success in life and business but we would greatly appreciate it if she would just leave us alone. We simply do not want her name or her company's name being posted on our website anymore, because it always results in more drama and negative energy to clean up.

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