Complaint Review: Allied Data Corporation - Houston Texas
- Allied Data Corporation 13111 Westheimer Rd., Suite 400 Houston, Texas U.S.A.
- Phone: 281-558-7176
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- Category: Collection Agency's
Allied Data Corporation Threatening to sue me because I can't pay by their "deadline." ripoff Houston Texas
*Consumer Suggestion: John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
*Consumer Suggestion: John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
*Consumer Suggestion: John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
*Consumer Suggestion: John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
*Consumer Comment: Steve, need your advice.
*Consumer Suggestion: Leila, NEVER pay until they VALIDATE the debt, here's why.
*Consumer Comment: Don, you ARE partially right on that, here's how it works
*Author of original report: I spoke with them again today; now what?
*Consumer Suggestion: hurting promotion ability?
*Consumer Suggestion: Leila, NEVER speak to ANY debt collector on the phone!!
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I started selling Avon earlier this year in hopes of making a little extra money. My husband had been out of the Marine Corps since 2003, and money was tight. The products sucked and nobody wanted to buy it where I lived. Suddenly, my husband decides to join the Army in June, 2006. At first, I thought I'd sell Avon there. But soon changed my mind as products I'd ordered started to fall apart. I admit, I got lazy as I was trying to get ready for the move to Kansas and didn't send anything back.
I arrived in Kansas mid-July. Shortly thereafter, I recieved a phone call from Avon about the balance I owed. I explained to her that I intended on paying, however, my husband just joined the Army and we were trying to get back on our feet. His pay would be out of whack for a while. I'd pick it up when it was straightened out.
Now I've started getting those Allied Data Corp. phone calls. The first one I remember recieving was just a week ago. The lady I spoke with was nice. I explained my situation of just getting his pay straightened out and that we were trying to make it a good Christmas since we'd be away from the family for the first time in a while. I asked if we could pay that after the first of the year. She said she understood and that it would be fine. I thought I could relax a little about it.
Then, the VERY NEXT DAY, I got another phone call from Allied again. Different lady. The tone in her voice the entire time came off as rude and she sort of spoke down to me like I was an idiot. She told me that if I didn't pay up that they would send the matter over to their lawyer and I would be sued. She said I'd be responsible for the court cost, which can go up to 5-600 dollars.
I told her about the previous conversation with the girl from yesterday and she said she doesn't know why the girl told me that; she was mistaken. I told her I really didn't have the money then, but she insisted that she must recieve something by the 29th of November, and then I'd have until the 1st of December to pay the balance or they'd turn it over to their attorney.
I told her my husband was in the Army and he wouldn't get another paycheck until the 1st. She then proceeded to say that if I let this go against my credit, this can hurt his chances of being able to pick up rank. I told her I didn't know that. I suddenly felt obligated to pay them something. And I said I would. I agreed to make a $20 payment and the rest in full by the 1st of December. She told me I'd have to make the payment via Western Union and then call them back with a confirmation number and if she didn't answer the phone, I should leave the information on her voice mail.
However, something just didn't feel right. I hung up and tried calling back, but not to speak with her. I just wanted to speak to someone with some sense. I was put on hold by the stupid little machine. I was on hold for 5 minutes, just to have another machine come on the line and tell me there was no one available to take my call at that time. I left a message alright: telling them how stupid it was to have me on hold for 5 minutes just to tell me no one's available. I left it at that.
When the hubby got home I told him I was upset over the phone call and that I needed to make the payment or they'll sue. He asked me to tell him what they said, and he said what was on my credit has no effect on his ability to pick up rank. He told me to wait til the first of the year, which was my original agreement with them, and we'd make the payment. I let it go again.
Today, the 29th of November, I get yet another call from this lady at Allied Data, the same one I'd spoke with the last couple of times. She said she'd never recieved my agreed payment of $20 from the other day and she was giving me one last chance to pay something today. I told her I tried calling back to speak with someone and how that went. She said, "I don't understand why you'd need to call back and speak to anyone else when I gave you my direct extension." I told her I just wanted to speak to someone else about it.
Again she started ranting and raving about how I needed to pay this, how AVON wants their money and that I'd want my money too if I'd loaned any out. I told her I realized AVON wants their money and I will pay them, just as I told the first girl I spoke with (now I'm thinking, she must have been new). She said that was unacceptable and she reminded about my husband's inability to pick up rank if I don't pay this balance.
I told her I'd told him what she'd said and he said it was a load of crap and that she was just trying to pressure me into paying them. She said, "Well, maybe he doesn't know that it affects his ability to pick up rank." I just said, "well, whatever." She carried on about me paying something, ANYTHING today.
So once again, I felt backed into a corner. We had $3 and some change in the checking account and a little over $25 in the savings account. I told her I'd make a payment of $5 when my husband got home with the check card because my daughter had lost mine and I'm waiting on it to arrive. She said this would be fine, then she says, "When you transfer that $5 make sure you transfer an additional $16 because that's what Western Union will charge you to send it through them." I about had a cow.
Then I recalled a letter I'd gotten from them the previous day in the mail: letting me know I had 30 days from the date I recieved the letter to respond about disputing my charges. I don't dispute them. I owe it. Then it says I can remit my payment in full OR call the staff to make PAYMENT ARRANGEMENTS or make the payment by Western Union (for a fee of 12.95, not 16).
I brought this letter up and she said I could send the money through mail if I ship it overnight delivery. I told her she was crazy. She told me I could've sent that in a month ago by regular mail and that would've been alright. But since I've waited so long to respond, I need to remit payment immediately.
I told her I just got that letter YESTERDAY (November 28) and it was dated November 21. I was fed up at that time and started searching around on the internet. I'm going to check into the laws about recording phone conversations and see if I have to tell them that they are being recorded or what. I will send them a payment of $5 on the first of December and then pay the remaining after the first of the year and they can kiss my butt.
My sister and sister-in-law both owe AVON money and say that it's been in collections for quite some time. Unlike them, I plan on paying.
It's crazy because my husband joins the Army to defend the country so that people like that think they have the right to do what they do. I'm not trying to get out of the debt at all, I owe it, I owe it. I OWE IT! I intend to pay it. But they will not push me around so they can make a buck.
Leila
Fort Leavenworth, Kansas
U.S.A.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion
John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
She needs to get a lawyer ASAP!

#9 Consumer Suggestion
John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
She needs to get a lawyer ASAP!

#8 Consumer Suggestion
John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
She needs to get a lawyer ASAP!

#7 Consumer Suggestion
John, I responded on the other thread you indicated
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
She needs to get a lawyer ASAP!

#6 Consumer Comment
Steve, need your advice.
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
Need some advice if you would be so kind in reference to this:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff221514.htm
Thanks in advance

#5 Consumer Suggestion
Leila, NEVER pay until they VALIDATE the debt, here's why.
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
Leila,
Here's what happens when you pay a third party collector like Allied. It will never end. Mysterious debts will keep popping up, and you will keep paying them.
If you really want to pay one of these agencies, protect yourself while doing so. be sure you clearly get it spelled out in writing what your TOTAL indebtedness is, and that this is the only amount you owe.
Then make them validate it showing you something you signed to create the debt, as well as a full account history and itemization of charges. Also demand proof that they have the legal right to collect on the debt, and proof of ownership and amount paid if they claim they own it.
Send this letter by certified mail, return reciept requested. Put the certified# on the letter itself, and keep a copy for your records.
Now, once you get that, do not use any of your own bank accounts to make the payment. You do not want them having your banking info.
Only use a certified check or postal money order to pay them. Something that can be easily traced. Put whatever reference #'s on it you have from the collections letter and then make a copy of it for your records before mailing.
It's not feasable to send $5. Just save the money aside until you can pay at least $25 or half of the debt. If/when you pay in full, mark that payment as "payment in full".
I personally would not pay them anything, as it is not going to Avon. It is going to some bottomfeeder debt buyer who paid pennies or less on the dollar for it. Debt buyers are entitled to nothing, and they certainly would never file a lawsuit over such a small amount. I would send the CEASE COMMUNICATIONS letter by the means above and be done with them, and keep my money in my pocket.

#4 Consumer Comment
Don, you ARE partially right on that, here's how it works
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
Don,
You are on the right track on the promotions thing, but the military does not actually pull your credit for a promotion. With the only exception being senior officers/senior NCO's getting appointed to sensitive positions.
Other than that, the only thing that hurts a soldier is collections calls or letters coming into the military organization. A military member is required to be financially responsible, and can even be thrown out if they are not.
Just for the record Don, I know I have given you a hard time when you were a new collector, but it seems like you have actually taken the interest to learn the laws and do things right. Keep up the good work and keep doing it right.

#3 Author of original report
I spoke with them again today; now what?
AUTHOR: Leila - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
I got a phone call this morning, yet again. Same lady. She said she was following up because she realized I hadn't left a message with the confirmation number from Western Union on her voice mail. This is what happened:
I told her that after our phone conversations, I began to become a little suspicious so I checked them out on the internet. I told her I found out it was their MO to scare people into paying their bill and that it was not going to work on me.
Then I told her that I had every intention on sending them the $5; had it all transferred from my savings. I said, "But then I went to the doctor after getting off the phone with you yesterday. Yes, we're military and yes, they provide our healthcare. But not all of it all the time. I had to have a certain medication that required a co-pay..." I was on a roll.
I continued... "I come first...I have to be well so that I can take care of my daughter. So I had to use that money. Now let me tell you what's gonna happen. My husband get's paid tomorrow. If I send you anything, I'll send it to you in this little envelope that YOUR company provided me in the letter I recieved a couple of days ago. If not, I'll send it in January like I originally discussed with the first girl."
She got mad and came back with, "Ma'am, you need to send it at least half tomorrow and then we'll be able to hold off until January."
I said, "No, I'll do what I can, because I said before, I come first...my health and the welfare of my child & husband come first. And one more thing, if you call me again, I WILL record the phone conversations and get your scare tactics on the phone."
She said, "Thanks, you have a good day." It felt good. Now before I send them any money, are you saying I shouldn't send them money even through the envelope? I can scan this letter and send it to you if you'd like to view it. Please help me...Should I contact AVON with this matter?

#2 Consumer Suggestion
hurting promotion ability?
AUTHOR: Don - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 30, 2006
Just answering this based on what I have been told by soldiers paying their bill to a collection agency. They were told that without a solid credit report, they could be turned down for promotion. Something about having things in collections shows a lack of responsibility by the soldier. Not sure how something that is in your name would effect your husband's credit though. Once again, before I get shouted at, just repeating what was told to me before.

#1 Consumer Suggestion
Leila, NEVER speak to ANY debt collector on the phone!!
AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 30, 2006
Leila,
TOO MUCH information here! Anything you say to a debt collector will be used against you. NEVER speak to any debt collector on the phone!
Always demand everything in writing, and always make them prove everything. Now that you gave them so much information, they will most likely start calling your husbands new CO on post.
Also, they are most likely NOT collecting FOR Avon. They most likely bought the debt for pennies or less on the dollar. Avon is out of the picture, and the money is not going to Avon.
NEVER use Western Union to pay anyone that you do not know personally. STAY OFF THE PHONE!!


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