Cydcor, DS Max ripoff, cult, improper employer practices, but it's all legal. Internet

Congratulations on your decision to quit! For the people reading this, I'm going to make it as easy as possible by using YC~to mean, "Your comment," and MR~to mean, "My response."
YC: They never lied directly, they never presented the business as anything other than what it is {after I was in training.} they are good and decent people.

MR: So before you were in training they lied to get you there and good and decent people always mislead you to get you to join them, right?

YC: Misrepresentation isn't really the issue.
MR: Misrepresentation is indeed the issue. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so prominent

YC: Any of us who lasted to the end of the first day of observation knew in our heart of hearts what was going on: we knew we were signing up to be exploited, to work with no security, and to give our lives and money for our superiors and for Avi Roth. We were willing to be exploited so someday we could exploit others.
MR: I didn't even hear of Avi Roth on my first day. Nor did I know that I was going to be exploited or sexually harassed and I certainly didn't plan on ever exploiting others!

YC: We were blinded by greed.
MR: Speak for yourself!!! Wanting a better life for myself, my family, my causes which include among others, the underpriviledged, in no way make me a greedy person.

YC: And yeah, they lied about how everyone who wants too makes it, and about how many people make it, and about how much people are making in your office each week. But they didn't lie about anything illegally.
MR: So, in your own words, these, "Good and decent people," lied A LOT but because it might have just been morally wrong but not illegal, that makes it okay? In that case, may I ask why are you quitting?

YC: And because of that, they will grow. They're already huge, but they'll take over more and more of the market, because they can underbid anyone else in the business. Traditional sales jobs, with salaries, pensions, and benefits will disappear: replaced by cheaper, more exploitable workers.

MR: If that happens, that is indeed scary. However, it used to be a well~known fact that word of mouth advertising is either the best or the worst thing you can have going for you. This scam company screws over people from every angle. I've heard tell that there are restaurants that are ending honoring some of the coupons that Granton/Cydcor/Ds Max/Innovage/Ds- Max/Dsmax/Ds/Max have sold and that when someone called the manager of the restaurant, the manager was only at liberty to tell them that there was a breach of contract. That either Granton printed too many coupons, withheld certain coupons, sold them after the contract date or something to do in general with the contract they both had. They probably kept selling them after the contract had expired. Appearently these were sold in a rather high number in the area of the store because the poor manager said that he had been receiving a lot of compaints lately.

Then of course the number of people who have been scammed into working for them will continue to grow. With websites like this and The Aftermath, people will come together in force and together we can make a difference for the worse for BS Max and all their aliases! I included all their aliases earlier so anyone reading about them under this heading can know to look up ALL their aliases to see the magnitude of the situation!

When all is said and done, Patrick, I do appriciate that you took the time to write your opinion which most of the second part is right on. If you've worked for them long enough, {which doesn't have to be that long,} to have been hurt by it, please share your experiences with us below.

Congratulations on your decision to quit! For the people reading this, I'm going to make it as easy as possible by using YC~to mean, "Your comment," and MR~to mean, "My response."
YC: They never lied directly, they never presented the business as anything other than what it is {after I was in training.} they are good and decent people.

MR: So before you were in training they lied to get you there and good and decent people always mislead you to get you to join them, right?

YC: Misrepresentation isn't really the issue.
MR: Misrepresentation is indeed the issue. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so prominent

YC: Any of us who lasted to the end of the first day of observation knew in our heart of hearts what was going on: we knew we were signing up to be exploited, to work with no security, and to give our lives and money for our superiors and for Avi Roth. We were willing to be exploited so someday we could exploit others.
MR: I didn't even hear of Avi Roth on my first day. Nor did I know that I was going to be exploited or sexually harassed and I certainly didn't plan on ever exploiting others!

YC: We were blinded by greed.
MR: Speak for yourself!!! Wanting a better life for myself, my family, my causes which include among others, the underpriviledged, in no way make me a greedy person.

YC: And yeah, they lied about how everyone who wants too makes it, and about how many people make it, and about how much people are making in your office each week. But they didn't lie about anything illegally.
MR: So, in your own words, these, "Good and decent people," lied A LOT but because it might have just been morally wrong but not illegal, that makes it okay? In that case, may I ask why are you quitting?

YC: And because of that, they will grow. They're already huge, but they'll take over more and more of the market, because they can underbid anyone else in the business. Traditional sales jobs, with salaries, pensions, and benefits will disappear: replaced by cheaper, more exploitable workers.

MR: If that happens, that is indeed scary. However, it used to be a well~known fact that word of mouth advertising is either the best or the worst thing you can have going for you. This scam company screws over people from every angle. I've heard tell that there are restaurants that are ending honoring some of the coupons that Granton/Cydcor/Ds Max/Innovage/Ds- Max/Dsmax/Ds/Max have sold and that when someone called the manager of the restaurant, the manager was only at liberty to tell them that there was a breach of contract. That either Granton printed too many coupons, withheld certain coupons, sold them after the contract date or something to do in general with the contract they both had. They probably kept selling them after the contract had expired. Appearently these were sold in a rather high number in the area of the store because the poor manager said that he had been receiving a lot of compaints lately.

Then of course the number of people who have been scammed into working for them will continue to grow. With websites like this and The Aftermath, people will come together in force and together we can make a difference for the worse for BS Max and all their aliases! I included all their aliases earlier so anyone reading about them under this heading can know to look up ALL their aliases to see the magnitude of the situation!

When all is said and done, Patrick, I do appriciate that you took the time to write your opinion which most of the second part is right on. If you've worked for them long enough, {which doesn't have to be that long,} to have been hurt by it, please share your experiences with us below.

Congratulations on your decision to quit! For the people reading this, I'm going to make it as easy as possible by using YC~to mean, "Your comment," and MR~to mean, "My response."
YC: They never lied directly, they never presented the business as anything other than what it is {after I was in training.} they are good and decent people.

MR: So before you were in training they lied to get you there and good and decent people always mislead you to get you to join them, right?

YC: Misrepresentation isn't really the issue.
MR: Misrepresentation is indeed the issue. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so prominent

YC: Any of us who lasted to the end of the first day of observation knew in our heart of hearts what was going on: we knew we were signing up to be exploited, to work with no security, and to give our lives and money for our superiors and for Avi Roth. We were willing to be exploited so someday we could exploit others.
MR: I didn't even hear of Avi Roth on my first day. Nor did I know that I was going to be exploited or sexually harassed and I certainly didn't plan on ever exploiting others!

YC: We were blinded by greed.
MR: Speak for yourself!!! Wanting a better life for myself, my family, my causes which include among others, the underpriviledged, in no way make me a greedy person.

YC: And yeah, they lied about how everyone who wants too makes it, and about how many people make it, and about how much people are making in your office each week. But they didn't lie about anything illegally.
MR: So, in your own words, these, "Good and decent people," lied A LOT but because it might have just been morally wrong but not illegal, that makes it okay? In that case, may I ask why are you quitting?

YC: And because of that, they will grow. They're already huge, but they'll take over more and more of the market, because they can underbid anyone else in the business. Traditional sales jobs, with salaries, pensions, and benefits will disappear: replaced by cheaper, more exploitable workers.

MR: If that happens, that is indeed scary. However, it used to be a well~known fact that word of mouth advertising is either the best or the worst thing you can have going for you. This scam company screws over people from every angle. I've heard tell that there are restaurants that are ending honoring some of the coupons that Granton/Cydcor/Ds Max/Innovage/Ds- Max/Dsmax/Ds/Max have sold and that when someone called the manager of the restaurant, the manager was only at liberty to tell them that there was a breach of contract. That either Granton printed too many coupons, withheld certain coupons, sold them after the contract date or something to do in general with the contract they both had. They probably kept selling them after the contract had expired. Appearently these were sold in a rather high number in the area of the store because the poor manager said that he had been receiving a lot of compaints lately.

Then of course the number of people who have been scammed into working for them will continue to grow. With websites like this and The Aftermath, people will come together in force and together we can make a difference for the worse for BS Max and all their aliases! I included all their aliases earlier so anyone reading about them under this heading can know to look up ALL their aliases to see the magnitude of the situation!

When all is said and done, Patrick, I do appriciate that you took the time to write your opinion which most of the second part is right on. If you've worked for them long enough, {which doesn't have to be that long,} to have been hurt by it, please share your experiences with us below.

Congratulations on your decision to quit! For the people reading this, I'm going to make it as easy as possible by using YC~to mean, "Your comment," and MR~to mean, "My response."
YC: They never lied directly, they never presented the business as anything other than what it is {after I was in training.} they are good and decent people.

MR: So before you were in training they lied to get you there and good and decent people always mislead you to get you to join them, right?

YC: Misrepresentation isn't really the issue.
MR: Misrepresentation is indeed the issue. If it wasn't, it wouldn't be so prominent

YC: Any of us who lasted to the end of the first day of observation knew in our heart of hearts what was going on: we knew we were signing up to be exploited, to work with no security, and to give our lives and money for our superiors and for Avi Roth. We were willing to be exploited so someday we could exploit others.
MR: I didn't even hear of Avi Roth on my first day. Nor did I know that I was going to be exploited or sexually harassed and I certainly didn't plan on ever exploiting others!

YC: We were blinded by greed.
MR: Speak for yourself!!! Wanting a better life for myself, my family, my causes which include among others, the underpriviledged, in no way make me a greedy person.

YC: And yeah, they lied about how everyone who wants too makes it, and about how many people make it, and about how much people are making in your office each week. But they didn't lie about anything illegally.
MR: So, in your own words, these, "Good and decent people," lied A LOT but because it might have just been morally wrong but not illegal, that makes it okay? In that case, may I ask why are you quitting?

YC: And because of that, they will grow. They're already huge, but they'll take over more and more of the market, because they can underbid anyone else in the business. Traditional sales jobs, with salaries, pensions, and benefits will disappear: replaced by cheaper, more exploitable workers.

MR: If that happens, that is indeed scary. However, it used to be a well~known fact that word of mouth advertising is either the best or the worst thing you can have going for you. This scam company screws over people from every angle. I've heard tell that there are restaurants that are ending honoring some of the coupons that Granton/Cydcor/Ds Max/Innovage/Ds- Max/Dsmax/Ds/Max have sold and that when someone called the manager of the restaurant, the manager was only at liberty to tell them that there was a breach of contract. That either Granton printed too many coupons, withheld certain coupons, sold them after the contract date or something to do in general with the contract they both had. They probably kept selling them after the contract had expired. Appearently these were sold in a rather high number in the area of the store because the poor manager said that he had been receiving a lot of compaints lately.

Then of course the number of people who have been scammed into working for them will continue to grow. With websites like this and The Aftermath, people will come together in force and together we can make a difference for the worse for BS Max and all their aliases! I included all their aliases earlier so anyone reading about them under this heading can know to look up ALL their aliases to see the magnitude of the situation!

When all is said and done, Patrick, I do appriciate that you took the time to write your opinion which most of the second part is right on. If you've worked for them long enough, {which doesn't have to be that long,} to have been hurt by it, please share your experiences with us below.

They keep abusing more and more people everyday. How many people can they continually take out on days of o's.

If more like you write their will be more awareness.

If more like you tell others about it there will be more awareness.