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Complaint Review: George S May International Company - Las Vegas Nevada

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  • George S May International Company 3750 60 South Jones Blvd, Las Vegas Nevada 89103 Las Vegas, Nevada United States of America

George S. May International Company Gerge S. May could actually help a ton of samll businesses and make a nice profit even with their canned solutions. However there seems to be an extreme element of greed and a serious (almost criminal) lack of concern for both the customers and employees. Thanks for the tip off!!! Las Vegas Nevada

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: What Was Really Learned?

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: George S May... beware

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: addendum to my posting on george s may

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Thanks to all of you who reported.

One of my partners invited the sales rep to pitch us this companies services. I was intrigued by the 3-day $350 evaluation of our business that was supposed to cover 233 specific areas. I knew it would be a pitch but I could see the value in the report. However something didn't smell right.

The analyst came an iterviewed me in the morning last monday. He seemed genuine and interested. He also seemed to know what he was talking about. BUT something still didn't seem right so I checked on line and found these reports. I believe every company has some bad press and I needed to keep an open mind as to not unfairly prejudice the company.

I followed all the tips given in the reports. The cracks started to show up quickly. The pitch was still strong but I was a slight bit sharper in math than the analyist and began to see the "method" behind the "creative" reports.

Anyway I stayed up most of the night scouring the net for more information and developed a point by point plan to verify the company's integrity. I believe that the analyist genuinely believes in the product and has limited knowledge of the back end scam if any. I also believe that the product has some value IF it is efficiently/properly implemented AND the customer understands what they are getting.

HOWEVER... My "maximum" estimate for a Profit Plan using Breakeven strategies was to be 180 hours @ $182/hr plus expenses for 2 consultants. The total for two weeks would have been $38,000 +++. AMAZINGLY the analyst had been questioning me "If you needed $40,000 in an emergency could you get it?" in the first hours of our session??? This was way before he had ever seen any financial information on our company. I called my Personal Consultant and asked about his costs to develop and implement such a plan. 1 - 2 days max @ $225/hour with no expenses = $4000 with training and manual. Not only that but quickbooks has built in features to generated most of the reporting and you can buy software on the net to do it yourself. I also left a message for a friend of mine who has been a CFO for many national companies but have not heard back yet.

Of course this would only solve one area of my "doomed" business. We never really covered all 233. Maybe 33 if that. Anyway I gave him the $350 and said "no deal"... He is going to stop by again this afternoon. I told him I thought that was wierd but???? Anyway I reported this to "5 on your side" a bay area televison show that investigates this type of stuff.

Recap.... if done right, efficiently and fairly with the customers best interest at heart Gerge S. May could actually help a ton of samll businesses and make a nice profit even with their canned solutions. However there seems to be an extreme element of greed and a serious (almost criminal) lack of concern for both the customers and employees.

Thanks again for the tip off to the rip off...

Joel Novato, California

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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

What Was Really Learned?

AUTHOR: JimboVegas - (United States of America)

POSTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011

As a former consultant for May and others, I must tell you that you may have missed the boat with your research.  You started looking for negativity, found it and bailed out.  Yes, the pre-sale appeared to be predatory but the reality of the consulting business is that there are businesses out there that are simply not worthy of consulting - the necessary resources for recovery are simply not in place.  The analysts work to sort this out while trying to close you.

The reality of consultant selection is no different than any other service provider.  If a HVAC guy comes to repair your air conditioning and appears untrustworthy, do you simply dismiss him, conclude they are all thieves and live with the heat?  There are consultants out there who really know what they are doing and can operate with speed and accuracy that would dazzle you.  The one deficiency May and the others have is that they are not discerning enough about the consultants.  No offense, but I submit that if you were a better business man you would not have thrown the baby out with the bath water.  Clearly, your business was a mess and you were stumped.

You know, May and the others have DVD's and virtual testimonials from customers who had a rewarding experience.  Here is a tip - watch them and get the names of their consultants.  That is, if you are still in business.

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addendum to my posting on george s may

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Tuesday, November 08, 2005

As a former George May business analyst, I'll add another reason for their high pressure...

Unless the business analyst (who is really a salesman) closes 40% of his appointments with a sale, he is fired. Again, this business analyst is 100% commission.

The height of absurdity is the GSM business analyst's call to the "council" during his appointment at the business prospect. You might think the "council" is composed of, say, a group of industry specialists concerned about how to make your company more successful. Of course, if you have read some of the postings about GSM, this is false. The "council" is simply a home-office sales manager to high pressure the prospective client for consulting services.

As you know, the business analyst will be anxious to sign a contract with you so that the consultants can start right away,maybe the next day. (Of course, GSM wants to limit the chance you might change your mind.) Realize that the GSM business analysts and consultants often are waiting at an airport at 5:00 pm to hear from GSM where they are told to travel next.they arrive at their motel at 3:00 am, and are told to be at your business at 7:30 am. You can imagine how alert the people you are paying for are after three hours of sleep!!

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

George S May... beware

AUTHOR: Jason - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Wednesday, November 02, 2005

I was employed for a brief time by George S. May Company as a business analyst, and yes- their attitude is only about billing (and bilking) the small businessman, and not about helping him.

The GSM business analyst is really a salesman, and the analyst is paid entirely on commission.

The analysts' training consists mostly of memorizing canned spiels to sell management consulting, and not how to assist the small businessman become profitable. You mentioned that the analyst planned to show up again after you told him GSM consulting services would not be required. That poor soul was no doubt ordered by the GSM management to continue pestering you to suck your bank account dry with consulting services.

In their training, the analyst is told not to take no for an answer. If you had said yes, GSM management consultants would have come in with canned bromides My suggestion, if any small business needs consulting services, ask your local accountant, attorney, etc. for recommendations for someone in the area.

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