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Complaint Review: MEINEKE Car Care Center - Canton Ohio

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  • MEINEKE Car Care Center 4570 Tuscarawas St W Canton, Ohio U.S.A.

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CAN YOU SAY CON-ARTISTS??? Be careful don't let them rip you off like they TRIED to do me. I took my 1998 Plymoth Voyager in for an oil change. They stipped my drain plug out. Now my oil pan is shot (so they say). I need to get a new oil pan and he said it would cost $278 to repair.

I had no problem with the oil at all untill I took it to Meineke for a regular scheduled oil change. Now I need a whole new oil pan and they refuse to do anything about it, but try to place blame on someone else. Said the oil pans just go bad alot in Plymoth Voyagers. My last car was a Plymoth Voyager. Had no problems with it's oil pan. It took they over an hour just to change the oil. I know it don't take but 15 mins to change oil.

Maybe because they were trying to fix the problem they had created. They even went to the auto parts store and Bought me a "tempoary oil plug" just till I can get a new oil pan. If they did not feel it was their fault why would they be so kind as to spend their money to by the tempoary oil plug??

I have reported this to the BBB. To find out they have 2 more BBB complaints just with in the past 12 months. UPDATE ........ 3days later I took my car in to be repaied (3 days after they told me it would be $278 to put a new oil pan on and that thats what I needed done) I had my van repaired at a real car garage It cost $37.25. Big diffrence. I will not ever go back to this place ever again.

They tried to take advantage of me and rip me off. Sorry Meineke this chick is just too smart. To be taken advantage of. You guys are either really ignorant or just money hungry.Why else would you tell me I had to spend $278 to fix it when I got it fixed for $37.25? Probley cause you thought it was going to be $278 added to your pocket.WRONG!!!! and hopfully when other people see this they won't have you tring to rip them off too.

2 Months later:
My grandmas friend took his car to the exact same Meineke to have freeon added to the AC. They told him he should replace it with a new kind of AC he let them do the work and charged him over $100 to do so (not knowing about the problems I had 2 months eailer with this company). By the time this man in his 80's dying of cancer got home his cars AC was still not working.

He took it back to Meineke and they told him that somthing was wrong with his car where it would coast over $600 to fix it so he could have AC. When they should have seen this before they went and coverted his system to a "new kind of AC" if they would have just added freeon like the man wanted it would have only been around $50 to $100. But of course that was less money for Meineke to put into their pockets so they had to try to rip an old man off, the same way they tried to rip me off.

This means war I will do what ever it takes to make sure that everyone knows what a rip off this place is. These people have no heart what so ever. And just wait for people to come into their office to try to take advatage of them. So if you go there for a minor repair no matter how little expect for "something to be wrong with your car" and expect to pay a high price to fix it. Trust me the only thing that was wrong with mine and this guys car was the jack a**es working on it.

Shantay
Alliance, Ohio
U.S.A.

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#2 General Comment

Can't be done successfully........

AUTHOR: Adolph - (USA)

POSTED: Monday, June 14, 2010

The previous poster is correct. Pre 1995 / 1996 (not a definite cut-off date) new vehicles with air conditioning were changed from R-12 (dichlorodifluoromethane,  commonly referred to as Freon, actually a DuPont registered trade name) to R134a. The old R-12 refrigerant was used with mineral oil, and worked at lower head pressures than the new R134a refrigerant. The new 134a must be used with (synthetic) PAG or ester oil.

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Any attempt to change an R12 system to R134a  is predisposed to complete failure. For starters, the difference in operating pressure between the two  is not addressable. Secondly, it is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to evacuate all the oil from an A/C system, being that its distributed throughout the system. Mineral oil and PAG or ester oils are completely incompatible.  Any  mineral oil remaining, when coming in contact with either synthetic oil, creates a slimy goo that ruins the system. R134a refrigerant WILL NOT carry mineral oil within the system for sealing and lubrication, hence the necessity of the incompatible synthetic oil.

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There are gas mixes available of various compounding of gasses to replace R-12.  These are not a workable solution either. The molecular size of the different gasses causes a disproportionate loss of the component gasses, upsetting the original mix. This makes it impossible to add to a system so charged. The system must be completely evacuated and recharged to maintain a proper  mix the vendor has dreamed up. Thats even assuming the mix is even workable to begin with.

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Anyone with a valuable vehicle (to wit: Classic or antique) with an R12 system is better off going to the expense of sourcing R12 for their vehicle.

I personally have a large hoard of R12 and R22 refrigerant as I could see what was about to happen back in 1994-5.  R12 is still available on E Bay. Sadly, the pre-change 12 to 14 oz. $1.00 or less cans are now going for around $40.00 or more. Still the best solution of any vehicle which  is truly valuable is to remain with the correct refrigerant. For my central (house) A/C the R22 has gone from  $28.00 per 30# cylinder to $250. to $300. These increases make the ascending price of gold envious.

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Some of the foregoing involve violation of our wonderful Federal governments current regulations. DO NOT expect a legitimate shop to violate these regulations. The fines and penalties can be staggering. As an individual, a person can stay below the radar.

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Yeah, I know. There are anecdotal reports of successful changes to the new refrigerants. (R12 to R134a)  For every successful conversion there are hundreds of systems permanently ruined.

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RE:Air Conditioning

AUTHOR: B - (U.S.A.)

POSTED: Monday, January 05, 2009

Hello, I wanted to give you some information regarding your grandmother's friend who had an A/C problem with his car. I'm just a shade tree mechanic myself, I don't represent anyone and am just offering my opinion.

In most older cars (pre-1995), the freon used for cooling is generally R-11 or R-12 which is an ozone depleting substance. The EPA has banned production or importation of the old refrigerants to protect the ozone layer, and most newer cars use R-134a which is environmentally friendlier. Unfortunately for owners of old cars, you cannot simply change out the old stuff for the new stuff; many modifications to the A/C system have to be made. Thus the shop attempted to just change it over, but they probably knew (or should have known) that it would cost more than just $50 for a recharge since it was an older car. But regardless, they legally cannot just add old freon as there are huge penalties for doing so.

Still, I think that the shop was both incompetent and unfair to cause damage to your car's oil plug and not be willing to either repair it themselves or pay for the repair. Unfortunately its a common thing for chain stores to over-torque fasteners as they're usually in a big hurry and they probably figure too tight is better than too loose.

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